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Monica Dongban-Mensem Counters Olumide Akpata Over Appointment Of Judges by oshozondii: 10:09am On Mar 31
The President of the Court of Appeal says contrary to the NBA president’s assertion judges can be appointed in anticipation that they will learn on the job.

The President of the Court of Appeal, Monica Dongban-Mensem, on Tuesday, faulted recent critical comments of the President of the Nigerian Bar Association (NBA), Olumide Akpata, about the ongoing process of appointing 18 judges for her court.

Ms Dongban-Mensem, who spoke at a webinar organised by the Presidential Advisory Committee Against Corruption (PACAC), said contrary to Mr Akpata’s assertion, there was nothing wrong with appointing judges in anticipation that they would learn on the job.

Mr Akpata had recently criticised the shoddiness of the interview conducted for the candidates by the National Judicial Council (NJC), which he said hurriedly interviewed 20 nominees within two hours.

The NBA president, a member of the NJC who was participating in the council’s interview of judicial nominees for the first time, also expressed shock that “Important legal issues that were occasionally put to the nominees could not be answered”.

He said he heard things like “they will learn on the job” during the interview.

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But speaking at the virtual ‘Roundtable on Jurisprudence and Philosophy of Judgments in the Nigerian Legal System’ organised by PACAC, Ms Dongban-Mensem said it was normal for judges to learn on the job, as applicable to other types of job.

She said, “Somebody said there is room for learning and the President of the Nigerian Bar Association took offence that somebody said that people will learn on the job. Who doesn’t learn on the job?

“Professor Sagay, did you know everything you should do when you were appointed as chairman of PACAC? Has he not learnt some things? Has he not started looking at some other things differently?”

She said the inability of a judge to answer a question on a particular subject was not sufficient grounds to deny ”that person the opportunity of being elevated to a higher court’s bench”.

She said, “I mean, we all learn. In the Court of Appeal, we sit in panels and we help each other. Somebody may know more about something. Some of the judges of the Court of Appeal may not have had the privilege of sitting on maritime cases.

“Will you deny them the opportunity of being appointed on the Court of Appeal bench because they do not know the meaning of maritime law? Don’t they know other things? Will they not learn from others?

“These are some of the things that inform our decisions. So, people should be a little bit kind with the judiciary when they go out and try to criticise and throw everything away.”

She said despite the barrage of attacks on judges, “I can assure you that there are men and women of integrity in the judiciary.”

‘Politics can’t be kept out of appointment of judges’

She also said there was nothing wrong in politicians’ lobby for the appointments of candidates from the constituencies as judges.

“The interests are varied. We are different parts of the nation. You cannot keep politics out of the appointment into the judiciary,” she said.

She added that while politicians were within their rights to lobby for their preferred candidates, the judiciary had always ensured that the best candidates emerged.

The Appeal Court president said, “They are representing their people. So, you cannot stop politicians from advocating for (sic) people from their regions to be represented in judicial appointments.

“But I can assure you, that is not what guides. We look at all of these things and take the best. If our bests have not been good enough, there is room for improvement, we are still learning, we have not closed the bus.”

Sagay, Falana, others weigh in

Various speakers, including the chairman of PACAC, Itse Sagay, human rights lawyer, Femi Falana, and others also weighed on the matter.

Mr Sagay, a professor of law, said “careful attention must be paid to the way Judges are appointed” for the goal of the judicial system to be achieved.

He also said there was “the need to seek the opinions of the local bar and colleagues regarding the fitness of prospective appointees for office, before forwarding their names to the NJC.”

He charged judges not to merely churn out judgments but to always ensure that justice was done in all their decisions.

He also called on them “to return to the pristine age when our judges’ chambers and courts were hallowed places where even angels feared to tread; the era when judges spoke and it was done because they were an embodiment of high moral authority and they provided justice to all men in all matters.”

Yemi Candide-Johnson, who is a member of Justice Reform Project (JRP), an organisation that is concerned with matters about the Nigerian judiciary, said “judges should expect to be held accountable for the public trust which they hold”.

The Senior Advocate of Nigeria (SAN) added, “Properly selected, they will be qualified to meet the proper evaluation criteria of efficiency and effectiveness and to be tested by the effective disposal of cases, the hours employed to do so, and the satisfaction of the public who is the principal stakeholder.”

Mr Falana, also a Senior Advocate of Nigeria, argued that the judges should not be blamed solely for the rot without considering the contributions of lawyers to the problem.

He noted that while the judiciary had always endeavoured to discipline erring judges, the NBA had always abdicated its role of bringing erring lawyers to justice.
https://www.premiumtimesng.com/news/headlines/452303-appeal-court-president-counters-nba-president-over-appointment-of-judges.html

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Re: Monica Dongban-Mensem Counters Olumide Akpata Over Appointment Of Judges by Vaughanlanrewaj: 10:15am On Mar 31
They are all right in their opinions but I believe that points are pre-allotted to each step of the recruitment exercise just like all recruitment exercises . They may just advocate that points pre-allotted to performance at Oral interview be increased.
They also need professional HR experts on things like this because they are not even talking like people who sought input from HR professionals. Most of their points are subjective and unscientific and can be easily hijacked by primordial and unpatriotic sentiments.visit www.freestuffsng.com for latest freestuffs in Nigeria.

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Re: Monica Dongban-Mensem Counters Olumide Akpata Over Appointment Of Judges by fergie001: 10:15am On Mar 31
Dongban-Mensem....I dey look you with the corner of my eye oooo angry

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Re: Monica Dongban-Mensem Counters Olumide Akpata Over Appointment Of Judges by thatsleepboy1: 10:15am On Mar 31
She also said there was nothing wrong in politicians’ lobby for the appointments of candidates from the constituencies as judges.

“The interests are varied. We are different parts of the nation. You cannot keep politics out of the appointment into the judiciary,” she said.

Wow wow wow!!! Their secrets are gradually coming out to the public.

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Re: Monica Dongban-Mensem Counters Olumide Akpata Over Appointment Of Judges by RichDad1(m): 10:16am On Mar 31
This Olumide Akpata guy should be calming down.
He’s not even a SAN yet but likes to talk more than his intellectual capacity.
I hope he doesn’t bring partisan politics into the NBA because he’s a known PDP stooge.

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Re: Monica Dongban-Mensem Counters Olumide Akpata Over Appointment Of Judges by Kingcollins5355: 10:17am On Mar 31
Madam Biko buhari no de around

Tell am by yourself when he come back
Re: Monica Dongban-Mensem Counters Olumide Akpata Over Appointment Of Judges by HigherEd: 10:17am On Mar 31
Judges learning on the job?

Who would be happy knowing a judge is using his own justice for training?

You are either qualified or not. I support olumide akpata.

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Re: Monica Dongban-Mensem Counters Olumide Akpata Over Appointment Of Judges by design102: 10:18am On Mar 31
angry
Re: Monica Dongban-Mensem Counters Olumide Akpata Over Appointment Of Judges by Iamvictor(m): 10:19am On Mar 31
Lolll She said judges can be appointed with the hope that the will learn on the job.

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Re: Monica Dongban-Mensem Counters Olumide Akpata Over Appointment Of Judges by RichDad1(m): 10:20am On Mar 31
She’s damn right.
Akpata should swear if he doesn’t learn on the job.
She said, “Somebody said there is room for learning and the President of the Nigerian Bar Association took offence that somebody said that people will learn on the job. Who doesn’t learn on the job?

“Professor Sagay, did you know everything you should do when you were appointed as chairman of PACAC? Has he not learnt some things? Has he not started looking at some other things differently?”

She said the inability of a judge to answer a question on a particular subject was not sufficient grounds to deny ”that person the opportunity of being elevated to a higher court’s bench”.

She said, “I mean, we all learn. In the Court of Appeal, we sit in panels and we help each other. Somebody may know more about something. Some of the judges of the Court of Appeal may not have had the privilege of sitting on maritime cases.

“Will you deny them the opportunity of being appointed on the Court of Appeal bench because they do not know the meaning of maritime law? Don’t they know other things? Will they not learn from others?

“These are some of the things that inform our decisions. So, people should be a little bit kind with the judiciary when they go out and try to criticise and throw everything away.

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Re: Monica Dongban-Mensem Counters Olumide Akpata Over Appointment Of Judges by OfficialGaGa(m): 10:20am On Mar 31
ok... to learn on the job right? so I guess people's lives n justice will be use to learn on the job.... people going to jail... is part of learning on the job... but most importantly taking bride is already embedded in them....

Imagine if doctors say after all the training in school, house manship? or wat have u.. and they still insist dey will learn on the job??

even buhari sef has been learning on the job on how to make life more difficult and unbearable for Nigerians with clueless and wickedness..

I guess that is something you learn on the job

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Re: Monica Dongban-Mensem Counters Olumide Akpata Over Appointment Of Judges by sinisters(m): 10:20am On Mar 31
Hmmm

Let them keep sacrificing professionalism on the alter of politics, we will see the results soon.

Am sure these sets of people with their shallow mind can say pilots can learn on the job.


That is how they nominated Justice Ishaq Usman Bello for ICC job.........

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Re: Monica Dongban-Mensem Counters Olumide Akpata Over Appointment Of Judges by yudee233: 10:21am On Mar 31
She is right even CJN is still learning on the job

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Re: Monica Dongban-Mensem Counters Olumide Akpata Over Appointment Of Judges by oluwaseyi0: 10:23am On Mar 31
I don't understand meaning of judges learning on the job

You mean after the judge has sentence like 50 or 100 people to prison, he will now learnt that actually he should have discharge and acquitted them because they ain't guilty as be previously and naively thought

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Re: Monica Dongban-Mensem Counters Olumide Akpata Over Appointment Of Judges by 27Pushing30: 10:23am On Mar 31
thatsleepboy1:


Wow wow wow!!! Their secrets are gradually coming out to the public.

Are you not seeing/reading what is happening in America regarding supreme court justic appointments? Did they not tell you back in school that man by nature is a political animal?

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Re: Monica Dongban-Mensem Counters Olumide Akpata Over Appointment Of Judges by ainas247: 10:24am On Mar 31
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Re: Monica Dongban-Mensem Counters Olumide Akpata Over Appointment Of Judges by garfield1: 10:26am On Mar 31
fergie001:
Dongban-Mensem....I dey look you with the corner of my eye oooo angry
She is right
Re: Monica Dongban-Mensem Counters Olumide Akpata Over Appointment Of Judges by naijapips04: 10:26am On Mar 31
Their defense of nepotism.

So anyone could be employed into any job at all, no matter their qualification. And then expected to learn on the Job.

The way the North is making fools of southerners is very appalling. All because you want Tinubu to be president??

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Re: Monica Dongban-Mensem Counters Olumide Akpata Over Appointment Of Judges by BabaIbo: 10:27am On Mar 31
A judge can learn on the job but a fresh graduate can not learn on the job.

Check the requirements of those federal and multinational corporations jobs, you will pity fresh graduates or graduates without strong connection.

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Re: Monica Dongban-Mensem Counters Olumide Akpata Over Appointment Of Judges by fergie001: 10:29am On Mar 31
garfield1:

She is right

She has no choice than to nod in affirmation.
Re: Monica Dongban-Mensem Counters Olumide Akpata Over Appointment Of Judges by 27Pushing30: 10:29am On Mar 31
yudee233:
She is right even CJN is still learning on the job

Even bank MD's learn on the job,,, even unemployed graduates learn something while unemployed.

Core competencies determine which cases are assigned to each judge by the president of the court of appeal.

Sometimes i wonder how Nigerians reason so backwardly sha

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Re: Monica Dongban-Mensem Counters Olumide Akpata Over Appointment Of Judges by olisaEze(m): 10:30am On Mar 31
Naturally people learn on the job.

However not when those with better credentials are jobless because they don’t have connections.

Now I hope Nigerian youths can see why our judicial system is rife with conflicting judgements and verdicts. undecided

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Re: Monica Dongban-Mensem Counters Olumide Akpata Over Appointment Of Judges by hpk(m): 10:30am On Mar 31
All of them dey craze... Next!
Re: Monica Dongban-Mensem Counters Olumide Akpata Over Appointment Of Judges by Yankee101: 10:30am On Mar 31
Imagine this same woman nigerians fought for so buhari will appoint her because she was the most senior and qualified

You don enter don dey play politics

In law and medicine you don learn on the job, you are only labeled specialist after you've finished learning. Likewise a judge should understand the laws they seek to interpret or they'll miscarry justice

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Re: Monica Dongban-Mensem Counters Olumide Akpata Over Appointment Of Judges by observanc1: 10:32am On Mar 31
HigherEd:
Judges learning on the job?

Who would be happy knowing a judge is using his own justice for training?

You are either qualified or not. I support olumide akpata.
did u read the story at all?
She was talking of qualified high court judges being interviewed to be elevated to court of appeal.
Nobody knows it all. People learn on the job.

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Re: Monica Dongban-Mensem Counters Olumide Akpata Over Appointment Of Judges by Brunicekid(m): 10:34am On Mar 31
RichDad1:
These Olumide Akpata guy should be calming down.
He’s not even a SAN yet but likes to talk more than his intellectual capacity.
I hope he doesn’t bring partisan politics into the NBA because he’s a known PDP stooge.
I can tell you that's a lie... Olumide Akpata is not a PDP stooge.

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Re: Monica Dongban-Mensem Counters Olumide Akpata Over Appointment Of Judges by Okoroawusa: 10:35am On Mar 31
Everybody learns on the job. Even the people condenming this woman are praying for a job where they will be allowed to learn on the job.

It's as simple as that unless you just want to be economical with the truth.

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