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Re: The Seventh-day Adventist Church by Eviana(f): 1:15pm On May 06
KALUUKALUU:
Lol, I see today that I've been freed from prison (ban). I wrote something and I was made to dissappear alongside with it.
Anyway, E.viana, my younger brother is a very devoted sda, we sometimes have this debates. And sometimes I will ask him, "Are you a Believer or are you sda"
I would ask you the same.

From the post which was unfortunately deleted, I'd talked of this senior Catholic personality that I've been acquainted to. Along the way she became a Sabbath-keeper. God has been revealing to her where there are problems in her denomination. She at times attempts to point this to her seniors but it does not end well. You can even be excommunicated.
And do you think that matters even for 1 bit?
What should matter is doing the will of the Father. And having your name Written in the Lambs Book of Life.
Nowadays I try very much to avoid arguments. The things I've said shall maybe make sense in the future.

And so.... "I hereby forgive anyone who has angered or provoked me or sinned against me, physically or financially or by failing to give me due respect, or in any matter relating to me, involuntarily or willingly, inadvertently or deliberately, whether in word or deed: let no one incur punishment because of me.... Shalom.

Sir,
Good morning,
You say your "brother" is an SDA?
Hmmmm...another SDA?
Alrighty then.....
I've met more alleged SDA's on this here thread than I have my entire 4 and 1/2 years on this site!
There are only "2" persons (on this site) who I believe (that I briefly either exchanged a few words with or posted a comment awhile ago) are of the faith. Most SDA's won't come out publicly because of fear being "peculiar", of judgment by all, or misconstrued words about our beliefs.
I am contemplating (as I said earlier) on how exactly I want to finish what I originally (on my very post on this thread) said I would finish here: who SDA's are, the role of the prophetess/in relation to the Bible, and what we believe. Forgive me for being still a little leery....I want to be wise however, I want to finish what I started...and I will.

Anyhow, I wanted "not" to ignore your question....at the bolded.
So here's the answer:
I am, first and foremost, a believer of God the Father, God the Son Jesus Christ, The Holy Spirit, His Word, who happens to be Seventh-day Adventist
.

Not understanding the last paragraph..
You didn't offend me.
Why is it written like that? Like a proclamation of some sort?
"....I hereby....etc."
Re: The Seventh-day Adventist Church by Bejusttoall: 1:55am On May 15
PeaceJoyLove:
Doctrines are the seeds of disunity the devil sowed in the body of Christ. All denominations: Apostolic, RCCG, Winners, Baptist, Methodist, Anglican, Catholic, Jehovah Witnesses, 7th Day Adventist, etc have huge roots, stems, branches, leaves, and fruits of this well established disunity. If you really want to know God, be extra careful how you align yourself with these terrible seeds. What I am confident about is: There are no denominations and doctrines in the body of Christ. But the demons working on these things blind their victims and even empower them to use all their strength and might to push doctrines forward. If you want to find the loop holes in any denomination, just look at the so called beliefs. You will see them clearly. Hmmmm.... 28 indeed. Hmmmm.

May God help us at this end time. God bless you all. Amen!
You have spoken well. No denomination in the body of Christ
Re: The Seventh-day Adventist Church by PeaceJoyLove: 3:09am On May 15
I am happy people are beginning to see the truth. By their fruits we shall know them. I do not like making comments in this section initially because there is no point. But I cannot bear again the messes caused by these people who parade themselves as christians. I had another encouter with this author recently. And I am back here. I need just one thing from her, she has to answer all the questions I have asked.

Way out: if she posts and gets erased, she should use her second account Eviana3 to mention me and I will find a way to send instruction how she can send me what she intends posting. I will never remove anything. I want to see the spa.m bot which will ban me. And after she gets out of ban, she can confirm if I alter her message.

This lady has claimed she is bold. Let her come out. Oh! Another tactic is that we are bullying her. Bully who? Intimidate who? You are saying and posting rubbish and denying my Jesus and you are saying we should leave you alone. In this ma.dne.ss, athiests will blast you and overpower you again like they always do. Yet, you continue messing us up here. She needs to shut up or she listens. When she sees the truth and acquire power, with her boldness, she will be a soldier for Christ. I know she has a purpose to lead and inspire Nigerians. But she must do it rightly.

So, if Eviana knows she is sure of what she is saying.....let her come boldly out here to answer my questions. Are you going to chicken out Eviana? Leave story aside....face this mission. Oh! You will hide behind how I am bullying you ...how I hate you....how I cursed you....how I bla bla bla. Leave culture and tribe aside. We are still on this denomination issue. Better you push whatever you want to say out and you are wrong than not trying again with all your "I too know", "over sabi" attitude..

Else, you are the 3rd person who chicken out to a challenge. In such case, stop making false comments about God.

I will admit it here if I am the one wrong. Let her give reasons why she has to come out here and say her denomination is the only one. I want to know. And she has to answer all my questions. If I am wrong, I will admit it.
Re: The Seventh-day Adventist Church by Eviana(f): 2:00pm On May 15
Bejusttoall:

You have spoken well. No denomination in the body of Christ

Sir,
I respect your stance and agreement with the fellow poster.
Thank you for your contribution to this thread.
Happy Sabbath.
Re: The Seventh-day Adventist Church by PeaceJoyLove: 2:29pm On May 15
Eviana:


.....

In response to your challenge, I will prayerfully--through God's Holy Spirit-- continue my beloved thread at the absolute right time....no doubt about it and that's a promise. You should at least know that about me....
Thanks for the offer though.
Just saw this. Did you modify this particular post? Ok. Never realised you wrote this. Ok. Take your time. Yes, you do not need to rush. Pray very well about it. Seriously, I want you to. And please, do not write what you previously believed is true, but what He shows you . Return to the books you use and research well. Cross reference with the word of God.

I just need you to be sincere. If you see that you are wrong, say it. You will gain my respect for life. And if you are right, say it and prove it. But I know that if you research it well and you pray for the Holy Spirit to lead you, .....you will definitely see light.

I will be back to remind you if you tarry too long cheesy

As for the offer. I'm ready. Do not be afraid. Just have a copy of what you want to post and if erased, do what I told you. I will assist you. I still assure you. I will get your voice out the exact way you want it out.
Re: The Seventh-day Adventist Church by Bejusttoall: 6:40pm On May 15
Eviana:


Sir,
I respect your stance and agreement with the fellow poster.
Thank you for your contribution to this thread.
Happy Sabbath.
Same to you, but will like you to finish the thread o. It is getting interesting and I hope you will entertain question s
Re: The Seventh-day Adventist Church by Eviana(f): 12:21am On May 16
PeaceJoyLove:


Just saw this. Did you modify this particular post? Ok. Never realised you wrote this. Ok. Take your time. Yes, you do not need to rush. Pray very well about it. Seriously, I want you to. And please, do not write what you previously believed is true, but what He shows you . Return to the books you use and research well. Cross reference with the word of God.

I just need you to be sincere. If you see that you are wrong, say it. You will gain my respect for life. And if you are right, say it and prove it. But I know that if you research it well and you pray for the Holy Spirit to lead you, .....you will definitely see light.

I will be back to remind you if you tarry too long cheesy

As for the offer. I'm ready. Do not be afraid. Just have a copy of what you want to post and if erased, do what I told you. I will assist you. I still assure you. I will get your voice out the exact way you want it out.

No, I did not modify that part.
It was exactly what I wrote on Friday.
See sir, in your voracious haste to attack, disparage and discredit me, you obviously failed to read that entire post.
I hope, in humility, you can learn from your mistake.
I have begun adding the words "MODIFIED" and specifying the part that has been added to any post I now create. However, there was no modification to the particular post I made the other day. It was all there at one time.

Oh, I am not afraid....very far from the that. Why should I be scared when I have Christ with me?

I have been accused of a whole lot (by you sir), but as I said before I will continue my thread at exactly the right time...
The table will be prepared for me....at the right time....in the right way and with the right motives by me....by God and Him alone. All of these unfortunate events happened (in the manner that they did) clearly for a reason.
Thank you sir.
Re: The Seventh-day Adventist Church by PeaceJoyLove: 2:28am On May 16
Eviana:


No, I did not modify that part.
It was exactly what I wrote on Friday.
See sir, in your voracious haste to attack, disparage and discredit me, you obviously failed to read that entire post.
I hope, in humility, you can learn from your mistake.
I have begun adding the words "MODIFIED" and specifying the part that has been added to any post I now create. However, there was no modification to the particular post I made the other day. It was all there at one time.

Oh, I am not afraid....very far from the that. Why should I be scared when I have Christ with me?

I have been accused of a whole lot (by you sir), but as I said before I will continue my thread at exactly the right time...
The table will be prepared for me....at the right time....in the right way and with the right motives by me....by God and Him alone. All of these unfortunate events happened (in the manner that they did) clearly for a reason.
Thank you sir.


I have caught you in different lies, so I saying that was just being polite. And saying I attacked you is funny. I attack stup.id and terrible messages. That is what my focus is on. But when the other person attacks my person, it is normal to dish back exactly what was landed on me. Stop playing the victim's game. You have said it that you do not back down. And you boasted that I should know you. So, playing the victim's game is a strategy you always use. "E no go work". It won't work here cos I will not allow you digress. I will forever make you stay focused. You are known to be courageous. Therefore, be courageous and do the right thing. Do not chicken out.

Oh yeah, you want to gain voice with self pity to show all you are bullied, whereas you are the real bully.

I have told you....you are just finding an escape route. I am not interested in this your "yeye" rants.

This is what is happening. You have no answers yet to my questions because you just listen to and accept what your doctrine says. This is called brain washing. See, there is no escape route for you. The truth is always the truth. Can you see how readers are excited with the way I am handling you? Why? Cos it is the truth I am focused on. And they can see professionalism in my approach.

Instead of you trying to use tactics to escape, come on board on the side of the truth. I will allow you call me and you can ask as many questions as possible why there is no denomination so you can learn.

Do not be afraid to do this. See eh! You will have my respect and the respect of many. I will teach you again why I always know things. Oh! E no go choke you. I have told you. It is the Holy Spirit. One gift is discerning. You need it in order not to make mistakes.

In a sense, everyone who doesnt share your opinion is against you.....lol. But the reality is they are not attacking you. Your church is a minority because they teach false doctrines in this regard. Your church is far older than many churches, but cos they stand alone like the Jehovah Witness, your church has remained unpopular. Many churches are new but as soon as they align with the body of Christ, they are not left alone. It is all about the body of Christ.

When you are left alone, it is either you are hated for being right, or you are not right. In this case, we know your church is wrong. But no one has chased them away. Your church is welcome to christians gathering, but you choose to say you are holier than others. And you have been in this state for many years. You decide to be holier than everyone else, and you stay by yourselves. Lol. You made yourselves unpopular.

I know if I ask you more questions, you will start arguing along that line. But I waited for the direction of the Holy Spirit. He told me that He will give me the questions to ask. And boom, the questions came. He didn't tell me to ask about "secret rapture", He didnt lead me to ask you about the Sabbath day, and many other things your leaders have prepared answers to. Cos He knows you are always ready for those ones. But look at the wisdom of God. I can bet you that your elders have no answers. You have no answers too. And the God who wanted to open your eyes made you open this thread. No wonder you have refused to leave this forum. Hallelujah! Even when I encouraged you to leave if you cannot cope. Yeap, i have left many times too so far.

Listen to me, you may find your elders removing some of your doctrines soon to cover up their lies. Just be observant. The worst which can happen to you is being brainwashed again and you become a vessel for that transition. Lol.

It is a pity, members like you do not use your head to think. You have lost so many opportunities because of your usel.ess and blind faith or stand. We are here to help you. To remove that veil from your eyes.

If you have the Holy Spirit, you will have answers to my questions. So, prayerfully, go consult your elders so they can give you answers. But know this, one of the answers you will get is to avoid argument..lol. This is a signal that they have no answers. And they will brainwash you again we are attacking your person.

Wake up. There is a reason people with Holy Spirit do not go to your church. The church is far older than many others but has remained unpopular. This is why people say you are a cult or sect.

Think deeply about it. I have many questions even about the great controversy. But the most important ones I have asked you. And one of them is that: your church teaches women are not to pastor. But the person who founded your church is a female. And one of the 24 or 28 points which your doctrine was based was from her book the great controversy. Why would she found the church and ask you not to have a leadership position like pastoring? She founded a church...oh girl, she was not silent. Then, she used her book the great controversy to shape the church. Her prophesies are all over the church. It is like she was the one who shaped and controlled the church in her days. Yet, they teach you as a female to be silent. And you too in your wisdom has not questioned this. "You are smart ooooo" grin

Note: I have never said women should pastor or not pastor a church. It's irrelevant to me to argue this with anyone. What I know is this: if I feel the spirit of God while a female pastor preaches, then I know God approves it. The check is in me. No one can deceive me. I do not need anyone to tell me. So, your position or argument is irrelevant to me. But I am asking cos I found this strange in your church. Instead of you to ask for the check, you are busy defending what mere men told you. You are a powerless christian. Ask for the power of the Holy Spirit. No one can ever deceive you again. Why? He resides in you to guide, teach, direct, and empower you. But you are listening to mere men. Oh! I pity you.

Religion is a terrible thing. Mehn! God is not a denominational God. There is ONLY the body of Christ, and He is interested in this only. Imagine you said that if you didnt find your denomination in a city, you would search for your kind and start a group. Oh girl. I was just like.....what? Let me tell you the truth: You have been brainwashed. You better get out of that thing you call a church. It is not. You better find a living church and learn how to operate with the gifts and fruits of the Holy spirit. You better find a living church where you will be taught how to do it yourself and not rely on books a woman wrote many years ago. You have too much faith in your teachers. Oh! The videos of your teachers over the place. When you are asked questions, you dont have the right words but to refer to internet pages and videos.
Why? You dont have the right words to say. You post 2 hours teachings to answer simple questions. Why? You have no answers..

I know you cannot take up this challenge. I have challenged you in the past but you found escape routes. And everytime I bring it up, you always try to escape my questions. Instead of you to be sober and reflect on it why you couldn't give me answers, you still came here posting what you dont understand yourself.

Am I the only one who has told you to shut up? You just copy and paste from your numerous doctrines and novels. When you are asked questions you have no answers. And instead of you to admit you have no answers, you start shouting we are bullying you. The poster above had to politely ask you if questions will be permitted later. Lol. What a good reputation. You are well known to use different reasons to escape answering questions you do not have answers to. So, why force your SDA and great controversy on people when you cannot answer questions to our satisfaction?

We are Nigerians. We have brains. So, be ready to defend your faith.

Lastly, unlike you who never show remorse or say you are wrong, I admit when I am wrong . This is a quality I have and I am not ashamed of. Convince me and I will say you are right. And I will tell you that yeah...SDA is a living church. But so far, SDA is a a dead place with all I am seeing.

So, stop playing games. No one is attacking you. And do not digress. The speed at which you reply with irrelevant words is super high. But you have no answers to the questions I have asked you. I do not see you provide any answer because your church is wrong but just brainwashing many in this area.

I pray, Lord, show yourself to this lady. Let her see light. Jesus, open her eyes to your words. Dear Lord, set her free. She has a strong passion, and we thank you for sustaining her till this moment. But Lord, it is time for her to move forward. Baby food is for babies, it is time for her to grow in You. Jesus, son of the living God, reveal yourself to her. I have heard her testimony where she claimed you led her to SDA. Whether it is true, or someone else did it is OK because she didnt even go to open fraternities. We need you do this new miracle in her life. Jesus, I cannot command you how you will do it. I can only intercede and you act. Jesus, move into her life. Holy Spirit, move into her life. Find her. Locate her. Teach her. Direct her. Open her eye. And I pray, the veil in her eyes should be removed in the name of Jesus. The scales in her eyes should drop in the name of Jesus. Holy Spirit, move. In Jesus name I have prayed. Amen!

Lady, it is well.
Re: The Seventh-day Adventist Church by Eviana(f): 12:54pm On May 16
PeaceJoyLove:


I have caught you in different lies, so I saying that was just being polite. And saying I attacked you is funny. I attack stup.id and terrible messages. That is what my focus is on. But when the other person attacks my person, it is normal to dish back exactly what was landed on me. Stop playing the victim's game. You have said it that you do not back down. And you boasted that I should know you. So, playing the victim's game is a strategy you always use. "E no go work". It won't work here cos I will not allow you digress. I will forever make you stay focused. You are known to be courageous. Therefore, be courageous and do the right thing. Do not chicken out.

Oh yeah, you want to gain voice with self pity to show all you are bullied, whereas you are the real bully.

I have told you....you are just finding an escape route. I am not interested in this your "yeye" rants.

This is what is happening. You have no answers yet to my questions because you just listen to and accept what your doctrine says. This is called brain washing. See, there is no escape route for you. The truth is always the truth. Can you see how readers are excited with the way I am handling you? Why? Cos it is the truth I am focused on. And they can see professionalism in my approach.

Instead of you trying to use tactics to escape, come on board on the side of the truth. I will allow you call me and you can ask as many questions as possible why there is no denomination so you can learn.

Do not be afraid to do this. See eh! You will have my respect and the respect of many. I will teach you again why I always know things. Oh! E no go choke you. I have told you. It is the Holy Spirit. One gift is discerning. You need it in order not to make mistakes.

In a sense, everyone who doesnt share your opinion is against you.....lol. But the reality is they are not attacking you. Your church is a minority because they teach false doctrines in this regard. Your church is far older than many churches, but cos they stand alone like the Jehovah Witness, your church has remained unpopular. Many churches are new but as soon as they align with the body of Christ, they are not left alone. It is all about the body of Christ.

When you are left alone, it is either you are hated for being right, or you are not right. In this case, we know your church is wrong. But no one has chased them away. Your church is welcome to christians gathering, but you choose to say you are holier than others. And you have been in this state for many years. You decide to be holier than everyone else, and you stay by yourselves. Lol. You made yourselves unpopular.

I know if I ask you more questions, you will start arguing along that line. But I waited for the direction of the Holy Spirit. He told me that He will give me the questions to ask. And boom, the questions came. He didn't tell me to ask about "secret rapture", He didnt lead me to ask you about the Sabbath day, and many other things your leaders have prepared answers to. Cos He knows you are always ready for those ones. But look at the wisdom of God. I can bet you that your elders have no answers. You have no answers too. And the God who wanted to open your eyes made you open this thread. No wonder you have refused to leave this forum. Hallelujah! Even when I encouraged you to leave if you cannot cope. Yeap, i have left many times too so far.

Listen to me, you may find your elders removing some of your doctrines soon to cover up their lies. Just be observant. The worst which can happen to you is being brainwashed again and you become a vessel for that transition. Lol.

It is a pity, members like you do not use your head to think. You have lost so many opportunities because of your usel.ess and blind faith or stand. We are here to help you. To remove that veil from your eyes.

If you have the Holy Spirit, you will have answers to my questions. So, prayerfully, go consult your elders so they can give you answers. But know this, one of the answers you will get is to avoid argument..lol. This is a signal that they have no answers. And they will brainwash you again we are attacking your person.

Wake up. There is a reason people with Holy Spirit do not go to your church. The church is far older than many others but has remained unpopular. This is why people say you are a cult or sect.

Think deeply about it. I have many questions even about the great controversy. But the most important ones I have asked you. And one of them is that: your church teaches women are not to pastor. But the person who founded your church is a female. And one of the 24 or 28 points which your doctrine was based was from her book the great controversy. Why would she found the church and ask you not to have a leadership position like pastoring? She founded a church...oh girl, she was not silent. Then, she used her book the great controversy to shape the church. Her prophesies are all over the church. It is like she was the one who shaped and controlled the church in her days. Yet, they teach you as a female to be silent. And you too in your wisdom has not questioned this. "You are smart ooooo" grin

Note: I have never said women should pastor or not pastor a church. It's irrelevant to me to argue this with anyone. What I know is this: if I feel the spirit of God while a female pastor preaches, then I know God approves it. The check is in me. No one can deceive me. I do not need anyone to tell me. So, your position or argument is irrelevant to me. But I am asking cos I found this strange in your church. Instead of you to ask for the check, you are busy defending what mere men told you. You are a powerless christian. Ask for the power of the Holy Spirit. No one can ever deceive you again. Why? He resides in you to guide, teach, direct, and empower you. But you are listening to mere men. Oh! I pity you.

Religion is a terrible thing. Mehn! God is not a denominational God. There is ONLY the body of Christ, and He is interested in this only. Imagine you said that if you didnt find your denomination in a city, you would search for your kind and start a group. Oh girl. I was just like.....what? Let me tell you the truth: You have been brainwashed. You better get out of that thing you call a church. It is not. You better find a living church and learn how to operate with the gifts and fruits of the Holy spirit. You better find a living church where you will be taught how to do it yourself and not rely on books a woman wrote many years ago. You have too much faith in your teachers. Oh! The videos of your teachers over the place. When you are asked questions, you dont have the right words but to refer to internet pages and videos.
Why? You dont have the right words to say. You post 2 hours teachings to answer simple questions. Why? You have no answers..

I know you cannot take up this challenge. I have challenged you in the past but you found escape routes. And everytime I bring it up, you always try to escape my questions. Instead of you to be sober and reflect on it why you couldn't give me answers, you still came here posting what you dont understand yourself.

Am I the only one who has told you to shut up? You just copy and paste from your numerous doctrines and novels. When you are asked questions you have no answers. And instead of you to admit you have no answers, you start shouting we are bullying you. The poster above had to politely ask you if questions will be permitted later. Lol. What a good reputation. You are well known to use different reasons to escape answering questions you do not have answers to. So, why force your SDA and great controversy on people when you cannot answer questions to our satisfaction?

We are Nigerians. We have brains. So, be ready to defend your faith.

Lastly, unlike you who never show remorse or say you are wrong, I admit when I am wrong . This is a quality I have and I am not ashamed of. Convince me and I will say you are right. And I will tell you that yeah...SDA is a living church. But so far, SDA is a a dead place with all I am seeing.

So, stop playing games. No one is attacking you. And do not digress. The speed at which you reply with irrelevant words is super high. But you have no answers to the questions I have asked you. I do not see you provide any answer because your church is wrong but just brainwashing many in this area.

I pray, Lord, show yourself to this lady. Let her see light. Jesus, open her eyes to your words. Dear Lord, set her free. She has a strong passion, and we thank you for sustaining her till this moment. But Lord, it is time for her to move forward. Baby food is for babies, it is time for her to grow in You. Jesus, son of the living God, reveal yourself to her. I have heard her testimony where she claimed you led her to SDA. Whether it is true, or someone else did it is OK because she didnt even go to open fraternities. We need you do this new miracle in her life. Jesus, I cannot command you how you will do it. I can only intercede and you act. Jesus, move into her life. Holy Spirit, move into her life. Find her. Locate her. Teach her. Direct her. Open her eye. And I pray, the veil in her eyes should be removed in the name of Jesus. The scales in her eyes should drop in the name of Jesus. Holy Spirit, move. In Jesus name I have prayed. Amen!

Lady, it is well.

I say this with the most sincere heart:
May God have mercy on your soul sir/madame.
"Father, please forgive this person for he/she knows NOT what he/she is doing.
Folks, this is not a joke....at least not on my end.
I am praying for you. I am 1000 percent convinced that you are not understanding what you are writing.
You cannot be....there's no way.
Surrender to Jesus Christ before your time ends.....experience real and sincere peace.
Harden not your heart. It has been hardened for too long.
You're obsessed with my church--knowing absolutely nothing about it other than the day we worship.....which happens to also be a day a number of Nigerians also worship on...who are not Adventists.
Something so false and demonic as you claim Adventists are...should not incite this much attention at all. You have gone above and beyond to try and destroy something you know nothing about...so you claim. That is how I KNOW that I am wrestling against supernatural forces here.

By the way, the church has NEVER taught a "secret rapture"...Ellen White was not a pastor....she was a prophetess which is a spiritual gifting listed in the scriptures (and which many women possess)...and she was one of (3) co-founders--not the founder. Let me say this and nothing else on it. The SCRIPTURES (not ELLEN G. White) teach that a MAN/MALE/"Y" CHROMOSONED HUMAN is to be in the position of pastoral/ elder authority in a church setting.....
The Bible has always and will always come first in my church's teachings.
The God-inspired books that I presented here, "The Great Contoversy" and "The Desire og Ages", (2) of over 40 books and 5,000 periodicals written by the prophetess were introduced on my threads for the fact that they are and were scripturally inspired. God spoke through this woman....and I personally believe that by faith. Her works were never to take the place OF the BIBLE...nor did she ever teach that.

When I say that you are highly possessed, I mean it. Those spirits are using you mightily and your only way out is through Jesus Christ. I am not playing around with you either. Something is seriously wrong and only the person of Jesus can heal you completely.There's a way to converse intelligently with someone whom you disagree with. You have never accomplished that feat and I highly doubt that it will in the future.

So, I will NOT engage in anymore debate with you on this church.
I started this thread and was interrupted by YOU sir/madame. You have a mission and agenda and do not think for a minute that I don't understand what it is.
Whatever you believe I am or am not....whatever you believe is my denomination or not is up to you. I will not defend, debunk or engage your "beliefs" any further. Bring a million fake monikers to defend you. Build up a defense...allies..."friends"..."brothers"
"sisters"....whomever. Yes...that is Nigeria...not all. There is a remnant of Godly folks left.
I stand with God and Him alone.
The truth has always and will always STAND no matter what.

REMEMBER YOUR WORDS BELOW...FOREVER RECORDED
I am a demon, false, lying, snake, nasty, manipulative, jezebelic, false Christian woman.
My church is false because it doesn't preach a popular message and has less members (18-21 million worldwide) which is less than some other denominations in the world.
People hate my church and stay away from it cause we are not of God.



I leave you, as always, with these words: Jesus is pleading with you sir/madam to surrender to Him first....it is about Him.
Mercy....Lord have mercy on this person from the depths of my heart.
I hope you, PeaceJoyLove, choose Him.
Re: The Seventh-day Adventist Church by Eviana(f): 1:13pm On May 16
MODIFIED

ONLY SHORTENED (I ONLY COPIED WHAT IS NECESSARY FOR THIS POST....RIGHT NOW) FROM MY ORIGINAL MESSAGE.....WORDS HAVE NOT BEEN CHANGED.


There are times when an answer to a prayer takes time. There are other times when God has answered but we fail to accept it......................................

The only thing that I will say is if you are searching for truth....sincerely and with right motives....pray, pray and more pray for the Holy Spirit to lead you into all truth and wisdom..........................
Let not any distraction that occurred here affect whatever God may be trying to tell you............................


Wisdom says that one should know when it's time to "dust off one's feet" on a subject.

I WILL NO LONGER comment on this thread
.



Thank you to those who have been able to read my original message.
Re: The Seventh-day Adventist Church by PeaceJoyLove: 1:14pm On May 16
Eviana:


I say this with the most sincere heart:
May God have mercy on your soul sir/madame.
"Father, please forgive this person for he/she knows NOT what he/she is doing.
Folks, this is not a joke....at least not on my end.
I am praying for you. I am 1000 percent convinced that you are not understanding what you are writing.
You cannot be....there's no way.
Surrender to Jesus Christ before your time ends.....experience real and sincere peace.
Harden not your heart. It has been hardened for too long.
You're obsessed with my church--knowing absolutely nothing about it other than the day we worship.....which happens to also be a day a number of Nigerians also worship on...who are not Adventists.
Something so false and demonic as you claim Adventists are...should not incite this much attention at all. You have gone above and beyond to try and destroy something you know nothing about...so you claim. That is how I KNOW that I am wrestling against supernatural forces here.

By the way, the church has NEVER taught a "secret rapture"...Ellen White was not a pastor....she was a prophetess which is a spiritual gifting listed in the scriptures (and which many women possess)...and she was one of (3) co-founders--not the founder. Let me say this and nothing else on it. The SCRIPTURES (not ELLEN G. White) teach that a MAN/MALE/"Y" CHROMOSONED HUMAN is to be in the position of pastoral/ elder authority in a church setting.....
The Bible has always and will always come first in my church's teachings.
The God-inspired books that I presented here, "The Great Contoversy" and "The Desire og Ages", (2) of over 40 books and 5,000 periodicals written by the prophetess were introduced on my threads for the fact that they are and were scripturally inspired. God spoke through this woman....and I personally believe that by faith. Her works were never to take the place OF the BIBLE...nor did she ever teach that.

When I say that you are highly possessed, I mean it. Those spirits are using you mightily and your only way out is through Jesus Christ. I am not playing around with you either. Something is seriously wrong and only the person of Jesus can heal you completely.There's a way to converse intelligently with someone whom you disagree with. You have never accomplished that feat and I highly doubt that it will in the future.

So, I will NOT engage in anymore debate with you on this church.
I started this thread and was interrupted by YOU sir/madame. You have a mission and agenda and do not think for a minute that I don't understand what it is.
Whatever you believe I am or am not....whatever you believe is my denomination or not is up to you. I will not defend, debunk or engage your "beliefs" any further. Bring a million fake monikers to defend you. Build up a defense...allies..."friends"..."brothers"
"sisters"....whomever. Yes...that is Nigeria...not all. There is a remnant of Godly folks left.
I stand with God and Him alone.
The truth has always and will always STAND no matter what.

REMEMBER YOUR WORDS BELOW...FOREVER RECORDED
I am a demon, false, lying, snake, nasty, manipulative, jezebelic, false Christian woman.
My church is false because it doesn't preach a popular message and has less members (18-21 million worldwide) which is less than some other denominations in the world.
People hate my church and stay away from it cause we are not of God.



I leave you, as always, with these words: Jesus is pleading with you sir/madam to surrender to Him first....it is about Him.
Mercy....Lord have mercy on this person from the depths of my heart.
I hope you, PeaceJoyLove, choose Him.

Hmmm! Lady/Man, I will not get into any irrelevant stuff with you. I am focused. I will put the main issues out again. smiley
Re: The Seventh-day Adventist Church by Eviana(f): 1:15pm On May 16
E.viana:
There are times when an answer to a prayer takes time. There are other times when God has answered but we fail to accept it. This morning confirmed something for me.
I had good intentions when I originally started this thread. It was in response to a person throwing out false accusations, threatening to "expose" my denomination and other things.
I have never been afraid to speak about Jesus....either publicly, privately or online.
The overwhelmingly majority of my combine thousands of comments over a 4 and 1/2 year stay on this site under my several monikers, has been IN the religion section....to 99 percent Christians not of my denomination.

I have written more scripture quotes than "book" references and while I have publicly stood alone this entire time, those who have interacted with me know that to be the truth. My church was practically never mentioned.
I want to say so much more, however
BUT FOR THE GRACE OF GOD....
BUT FOR THE GRACE OF GOD....

The only thing that I will say is if you are searching for truth....sincerely and with right motives....pray, pray and more pray for the Holy Spirit to lead you into all truth and wisdom.
Let not any distraction that occurred here affect whatever God may be trying to tell you.
I want to apologize to ALL persons that I may have offended, discouraged, frightened, or confused during this debacle. I am still not perfect in Christ..never implied or said I was.
There is a standard the Lord requires of His children and I must use Him as my measuring stick.

Always keep your eyes on Jesus and let not a faulty messenger deter you from His holy and pure message.
Wisdom says that one should know when it's time to "dust off one's feet" on a subject.
I will no longer comment on this thread
.
Thank you to those who have been able to read my original message.
Re: The Seventh-day Adventist Church by PeaceJoyLove: 1:20pm On May 16
Eviana:
There are times when an answer to a prayer takes time. There are other times when God has answered but we fail to accept it. This morning confirmed something for me.
I had good intentions when I originally started this thread. It was in response to a person throwing out false accusations, threatening to "expose" my denomination and other things.
I have never been afraid to speak about Jesus....either publicly, privately or online.
The overwhelmingly majority of my combine thousands of comments over a 4 and 1/2 year stay on this site under my several monikers, has been IN the religion section....to 99 percent Christians not of my denomination.

I have written more scripture quotes than "book" references and while I have publicly stood alone this entire time, those who have interacted with me know that to be the truth. My church was practically never mentioned.
I want to say so much more, however
BUT FOR THE GRACE OF GOD....
BUT FOR THE GRACE OF GOD....

The only thing that I will say is if you are searching for truth....sincerely and with right motives....pray, pray and more pray for the Holy Spirit to lead you into all truth and wisdom.
Let not any distraction that occurred here affect whatever God may be trying to tell you.
I want to apologize to ALL persons that I may have offended, discouraged, frightened, or confused during this debacle. I am still not perfect in Christ..never implied or said I was.
There is a standard the Lord requires of His children and I must use Him as my measuring stick.

Always keep your eyes on Jesus and let not a faulty messenger deter you from His holy and pure message.
Wisdom says that one should know when it's time to "dust off one's feet" on a subject.
I will no longer comment on this thread
.
Thank you to those who have been able to read my original message.
You are a coward based on the underlined words. And I will bring the real.subject of matter out. You cannot escape it. I'm serious with you.
Re: The Seventh-day Adventist Church by PeaceJoyLove: 1:46pm On May 16
Below was the exact way I asked you.

PeaceJoyLove:

......

I will state exactly my concerns with your church.
1. Ellen White was a founding member of SDA
2. A founding member has a higher admistrative rank than a pastor.
3. Her books are the doctrine of the church.
4. Yet, you always say women should not pastor churches.
This is where I am confused. I am debating if it is ok for women to be a pastor or not. The confusion is that how can a woman who founded a church ask other females to be silent in the church when she herself is loud all over the church with her books, her doctrines and her teachings? I do not get it. Her influence is still there even many years after her death. Yet, the same church she founded women are told to shut up. It doesnt add up. Or am I not making sense? Yet you ranted here and there. Must I attend your church? Must I take your church as the holiest church?

From all your rant, this is your response
Eviana:


.....

By the way, the church has NEVER taught a "secret rapture"...Ellen White was not a pastor....she was a prophetess which is a spiritual gifting listed in the scriptures (and which many women possess)...and she was one of (3) co-founders--not the founder. Let me say this and nothing else on it. The SCRIPTURES (not ELLEN G. White) teach that a MAN/MALE/"Y" CHROMOSONED HUMAN is to be in the position of pastoral/ elder authority in a church setting.....
The Bible has always and will always come first in my church's teachings.
The God-inspired books that I presented here, "The Great Contoversy" and "The Desire og Ages", (2) of over 40 books and 5,000 periodicals written by the prophetess were introduced on my threads for the fact that they are and were scripturally inspired. God spoke through this woman....and I personally believe that by faith. Her works were never to take the place OF the BIBLE...nor did she ever teach that.

....

This is hilarious. I think I made it clear in the post above she is a founding member. And a founding member is a founder. So, do not try to use English to confuse us. Same! Same!! Same!!! Teacher, no teach us non.sense.

You talked about a woman can be a prophet but not a pastor. Please ma, show us how you arrived at the conclusion that a woman should not pastor a church, but the woman can be a prophet of the church. Show us oooo. cool

Now look at below:

Eviana:
Part 5

I will list the first (14) beliefs and then the second (14) beliefs in another post...

Each belief is accompanied by an explanation & multiple scripture references. However, for the sake of space and not wanting to overwhelm any reader, I will put a link at the end for anyone who wants to look at our official page to see each scripture reference.

1.) The Holy Scriptures
2.) The Godhead (Commonly called the Trinity)
3.) God the Father
4). God the Son (Jesus Christ)
5.) God the Holy Spirit
6). Creation
7). Nature of Humanity
8. The Great Controversy
9.) The Life, Death & Resurrection of Jesus Christ
10). The Experience of Salvation
11). Growing in Christ
12). The Church
13). The Remnant & Its Mission
14). Unity in the Body of Christ
Please, kindly look at the above. I believe these are fundamentals and doctrines of your church. I am only quoting you. Please, kindly look at the bolded number 8. Who wrote "the great controversy"? Was it not Ellen White, a woman? Why was it included in the doctrine of your church? Tell me. Why? Yet, a woman should keep quiet in the church. Right? A woman prophet is a founding member and the doctrine of the church is based on her book. Yet, she told you a woman must not pastor a church. Please, explain ooooo. I am lost here.

Ok. The rest of the doctrine.
Eviana:
Part 6-
Second half of the (28) fundamental beliefs

15.) Baptism
16). The Lord's Supper (Communion)
17.) Spiritual Gifts & Ministries
18.) The Gift of Prophecy
19.) The Law of God
20.) The Sabbath
21.) Stewardship
22.) Christian Behavior
23.) Marriage & the Family
24.) Christ' Ministry in the Heavely Sanctuary
25.) The Second Coming of
Christ
26.) Death & Ressurection
27.) The Millenium & The End of Sin
28.) The New Earth


https://www.adventist.org/beliefs/


That's a whole lot. Such topics require a more in-depth study, which I  am still learning, but which comprise the entire bible! All of the listed beliefs are real and right there in the bible.

Where is the great controversy mentioned in the Bible? A woman brought out a subject, and she called it the great controversy (not saying she is right or wrong) but that same phrase she used is exact phrase used in your doctrine, and she said ....oh! A woman should not pastor just a branch of a church. While she as a prophet was loud, and she had influence on the doctrine and over all members even till date. Come on! Come on!! Come on!!!
Re: The Seventh-day Adventist Church by PeaceJoyLove: 1:57pm On May 16
Readers,

Ignore her rants and attacks. Please, kindly focus on the issue here. Let her come out and defend her words. This is the way I want you to look at it:

1. Who is more influential? A founding member or a pastor?

2. What does the Bible say about a woman pastor?

3. What does the Bible say about a woman prophet?

4. Did the Bible use the word pastor? So, how did she arrive at her conclusion a woman cannot pastor a church, but a woman can be a prophet in the church?

5. Oh! So you remember Prophettess Odeleke of C.A.C. What can you say about it? What is her role in the church? Or we can just twist it and say a lady is a prophet and she can be loud in the church. Please, kindly take note of the word loud. I keep using it.

6. The portion of the Bible which people use to support or oppose this subject, what terms are used? Is the word "pastor" used?

Please, kindly go make research. Then look at the questions I asked here. Read her responses.

Please ooooooo, can you see what I saw?

And she said she will not post again here..lol. Tell me na. She has nothing to say. Nothing absolutely. Kindly disregard her rants. She will come again to rant about how I hate her, how I hate her church, how I am attacking her, and bla bla bla. Disregard all and focus on the real subject here.

If she decides not to post again, you know she has no answer. And we can conclude that SDA is a confused place we should avoid. It is simple as ABC.

Thank you all.
Re: The Seventh-day Adventist Church by KALUUKALUU: 8:03pm On May 18
Wow! If you stop to throw stones at every dog that barks at you, you will nevar get to your destination.
Re: The Seventh-day Adventist Church by PeaceJoyLove: 7:34am On May 19
Have you seen any dog who doesnt respond when stones are thrown at? Let me hit you will a nice stone and see how you react? A beggie.... truths when thrown at a deceptive and manipulative person hurt. That someone has potentials doesnt justify good motives. When someone has a call of God upon her life but decides to use a fast approach deceiving many, she will get run over soon or later.

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May God deliver us from strange people with strange doctrines. Amen!
Re: The Seventh-day Adventist Church by PeaceJoyLove: 7:00pm On May 20
9 Things You Should Know About Seventh-day Adventism

https://www.thegospelcoalition.org/article/9-things-you-should-know-about-seventh-day-adventism/?amp

Take note of # 7 The other unique belief of SDA is in the “prophetic” ministry of Ellen G. White.

May God minister to you as you are opened to the truth.
Re: The Seventh-day Adventist Church by PeaceJoyLove: 9:18pm On May 20
Plagiarism is one habit with the Seventh Day Adventist
The more I research this issue, the more I am seeing more dirts. Any denomination which preaches it's the only one righteous is a fraud.

I realised that The Great Controversy which is a doctrine of the church written by your goddess of this church Ellen White is a subject of plagiarism. And the church after getting serious law suits stopped publishing her books until the copyright of the real owner expires. Then, they continued with the lies again.

Conybeare and Howson is the owner of the copyright.

https://spectrummagazine.org/article/2017/01/05/great-controversy-over-plagiary-last-interview-walter-rea

The details are in these books:
1. White, Ellen G. (1855). Sketches from the Life of Paul. Hagerstown, Maryland: Review & Herald.

2. Stewart, Charles E. (May 8, 1907). "A Response to an Urgent Testimony from Mrs. Ellen G. White".

She was called a plagiarist and a thief in this book:
3. "Is Mrs. E. G. White a Plagiarist?". Healdsburg Enterprise: 1, 4-6. March 20, 1889.

I am trying to get hokd of an e-copies.

When my spirit is against something, there must be dirts there. What a revelation I am seeing. Waooo!
Re: The Seventh-day Adventist Church by KALUUKALUU: 6:48pm On May 28
Happy Sabbath.
Re: The Seventh-day Adventist Church by PeaceJoyLove: 10:06am On Jun 13
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Re: The Seventh-day Adventist Church by Eviana(f): 2:15pm On Jun 13
Eviana:
MODIFIED

ONLY SHORTENED (I ONLY COPIED WHAT IS NECESSARY FOR THIS POST....RIGHT NOW) FROM MY ORIGINAL MESSAGE.....WORDS HAVE NOT BEEN CHANGED.


There are times when an answer to a prayer takes time. There are other times when God has answered but we fail to accept it......................................

The only thing that I will say is if you are searching for truth....sincerely and with right motives....pray, pray and more pray for the Holy Spirit to lead you into all truth and wisdom..........................
Let not any distraction that occurred here affect whatever God may be trying to tell you............................


Wisdom says that one should know when it's time to "dust off one's feet" on a subject.

I WILL NO LONGER comment on this thread
.



Thank you to those who have been able to read my original message.
Re: The Seventh-day Adventist Church by PeaceJoyLove: 3:50pm On Jun 13
(Previous post deleted)

Eviana, I noticed it is over a week you have signed in. Quite unusual. I hope you are fine ma.
Note: Posted on July 7, 2021.
Re: The Seventh-day Adventist Church by Eviana(f): 7:34pm On Aug 19
I think I may re-visit this, my thread.
I'll post until I can no longer do so.

What I'd like to focus on are the two subjects that makes the Seventh-day Adventist doctrine unique:

1.) Christ' Ministry in the Heavenly Sanctuary
2.) The Three Angels Messages of Revelation 14
Re: The Seventh-day Adventist Church by PeaceJoyLove: 5:29am On Aug 20
Eviana:
I think I may re-visit this, my thread.
I'll post until I can no longer do so.

What I'd like to focus on are the two subjects that makes the Seventh-day Adventist doctrine unique:

1.) Christ' Ministry in the Heavenly Sanctuary
2.) The Three Angels Messages of Revelation 14


Good to knkw you are back.

This is the right place to discuss it. Please, which Christ are you talking about? You always say you sre going to talk about Christ. You mention Jesus. Please, do not confuse us here. Why are you stubborn? Let us know.

Is this Christ angel Michael? Say it. You will not continue in peace if you dont answer this question. It is very vital. The whole Nairaland Christian community has been bombarding the Nehovsh Witness for issuing Jesus is Michael. And we have just realised this your church or whatever it is is playing the same game. Yet, you are going to all threads mentioning Christ but they dont knkw it is another you always talk about.

Before you continue, let us know who your Jesus is. We have see Jesus ofnOyingbo, Jesus of Agege in that Nigeria. Which one is yours?

Are you always talking about angel Michael?
Re: The Seventh-day Adventist Church by Eviana(f): 9:13pm On Sep 25
Understanding the Three Angels Message--of Revelation 14.
Happy Sabbath to all!
What exactly is John the Revelator speaking about in this particular passage and is it relevant in which the times we are living? That is what I will explore in the next few posts.

Revelation 14:6-13 (KJV)

6 And I saw another angel fly in the midst of heaven, having the everlasting gospel to preach unto them that dwell on the earth, and to every nation, and kindred, and tongue, and people,


7 Saying with a loud voice, Fear God, and give glory to him; for the hour of his judgment is come: and worship him that made heaven, and earth, and the sea, and the fountains of waters.

8 And there followed another angel, saying, Babylon is fallen, is fallen, that great city, because she made all nations drink of the wine of the wrath of her fornication.

9 And the third angel followed them, saying with a loud voice, If any man worship the beast and his image, and receive his mark in his forehead, or in his hand,

10 The same shall drink of the wine of the wrath of God, which is poured out without mixture into the cup of his indignation; and he shall be tormented with fire and brimstone in the presence of the holy angels, and in the presence of the Lamb

11 And the smoke of their torment ascendeth up for ever and ever: and they have no rest day nor night, who worship the beast and his image, and whosoever receiveth the mark of his name.

12 Here is the patience of the saints: here are they that keep the commandments of God, and the faith of Jesus
.
Re: The Seventh-day Adventist Church by PeaceJoyLove: 11:53pm On Oct 03
This person is a fraud. Stay off. You are warned.


Eviana:


Interestingly enough, since I released my "burner" number almost 2 weeks ago, I've received a plethora of (+1) numbers...lots of spam & scam calls and have been added into text "groups" with tons of #'s all having the (954) area code.
This has happened to me several times since being a member here. I just had no one who would help me nor did I mention it. I tried stopping the problem on my own...
Sir, it's "not" nor has "ever been" me calling you randomly or sending anyone else to do it. But, I have given up trying to convince you though. God sees & knows all..I have no doubt that the truth will be revealed.
I'd love a solution as well.
I am only available today from 2:00 p.m. -3:00 p.m. --U.S. time
(which is 8:00 p.m.-9:00 p.m.-- Nigeria's time).
You are welcome to put a call through to the # on my text around 8 your time.
Re: The Seventh-day Adventist Church by Eviana(f): 1:57am On Oct 04
Matthew 5: 2, 8-16 (KJV)

2 And he opened his mouth, and taught them, saying

8 Blessed are the pure in heart: for they shall see God.

9 Blessed are the peacemakers: for they shall be called the children of God.

10 Blessed are they which are persecuted for righteousness' sake: for theirs is the kingdom of heaven
.


11 Blessed are ye, when men shall revile you, and persecute you, and shall say all manner of evil against you falsely, for my sake
.

12 Rejoice, and be exceeding glad: for great is your reward in heaven: for so persecuted they the prophets which were before you.

13 Ye are the salt of the earth: but if the salt have lost his savour, wherewith shall it be salted? it is thenceforth good for nothing, but to be cast out, and to be trodden under foot of men.

14 Ye are the light of the world. A city that is set on an hill cannot be hid.

15 Neither do men light a candle, and put it under a bushel, but on a candlestick; and it giveth light unto all that are in the house.

16 Let your light so shine before men, that they may see your good works, and glorify your Father which is in heaven
Re: The Seventh-day Adventist Church by PeaceJoyLove: 2:02am On Oct 04
Eviana:

Matthew 5: 2, 8-16 (KJV)

2 And he opened his mouth, and taught them, saying

8 Blessed are the pure in heart: for they shall see God.

9 Blessed are the peacemakers: for they shall be called the children of God.

10 Blessed are they which are persecuted for righteousness' sake: for theirs is the kingdom of heaven
.


11 Blessed are ye, when men shall revile you, and persecute you, and shall say all manner of evil against you falsely, for my sake
.

12 Rejoice, and be exceeding glad: for great is your reward in heaven: for so persecuted they the prophets which were before you.

13 Ye are the salt of the earth: but if the salt have lost his savour, wherewith shall it be salted? it is thenceforth good for nothing, but to be cast out, and to be trodden under foot of men.

14 Ye are the light of the world. A city that is set on an hill cannot be hid.

15 Neither do men light a candle, and put it under a bushel, but on a candlestick; and it giveth light unto all that are in the house.

16 Let your light so shine before men, that they may see your good works, and glorify your Father which is in heaven
You arent a peacemaker. You are a rat. A peacemaker makes herself available. A peacemaker doesn't rattle her way out. You are a rat. I don't believe any of your words anymore.

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