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Foundational Debate Between A Muslim And A Christian by jantman(m): 1:10pm On Apr 15
THE HEADLINE: 'We Are Happy Whenever Unbelievers Are Killed' - Pantami (GazetteNGR) by lalasticlala


quote author=Jantman post=
You speak the deep reality of this people.

Many times I have tried to hate them because of their Islamic and backward mentality

But I could not hate them because I have been commanded to love all men

Islam is extremely evil.
Islam is a curse on earth.


quote author=Ayaaz post=
You attack what you don't know

What do you call a man who judges something he knows nothing about?

The answer is what you are


Jantman post
@Ayaaz
I am not blind. I have seen what islam made men do to their follow men

I have seen men killed and persecute other men in the name of Allah

I have seen that islam is a threat to the world peace.

Islam unleash terrorism and terrorist tried to infuse hatred into my heart.

My Lord Jesus commanded me to guard my heart and to love the good and the bad alike.

I could say more but there is no need

You and I know that Islam is of the devil and not of the true God Almighty
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quote author=Ayaaz post=
I asked you a simple question

What are the basic tenets of Islam

What are the foundational beliefs that carry Islam

What muslims have done is not what i'm asking

If the foundational beliefs of Islam urge muslims to kill, then i'll agree with you that Islam motivates muslims to kill

To prove my point, without a google search, please enumerate the five pillars of Islam and the six articles of faith

Note: the above are the fundamental aspects of Islam

If you don't know, then please admit that you are completely ignorant of Islam and are in no position to call Islam an evil cult or any other term you've labelled it.


[quote author=Jantman post=

@Ayaaz
I truly cannot enumerate the five pillars of Islam as I am very ignorant about islam. I mean I do not know the answer to your question because I dont practice islam.

All I have seen is that islam has promoted so much terrorism and shed so much blood in the name of allah

All I have seen is that islam has brought tears to the eyes of millions of muslims.

All I know is that islam has threatened the peace of the world.

My awareness of islam is that, islam did not conform men to Godlikeness and to unconditional love

Since all the pillars of islam could not conform muslim to love their fellow men with their heart and soul, then all the pillars of islam are faulty

Since all the basic tenet of islam failed to conform muslim to unconditionally love, to love non muslim, then all the basic tenets of islam are faulty.

Since all the basic aspect of islam did not conform muslim to be peace lovers, and has even threaten the peace of the world, then all the aspect of islam are faulty

I have seen that the foundation of islam is built on conflict and blood. The pillars, tenets, aspect of islam has produce, hate, violence, tears and sorrow.

Do you want to know the foundational aspect and basic tenets of Christianity?

Let me tell you

The foundation and basic tenets of Christianity is LOVE

God is Love. In love, God created we human beings in his own image, to love Him with our heart and soul, to rejoice in his endless love and to love one another.

The basic tenet of christianity was that It was also love that made - God the word to come down from heaven and became a man just to save us from sin and death.

The Lover- the savior we Christians known as Jesus Himself- died because of love

There is no greater love than this one — the greatest love one can have, which is to lay down ones life for someone.

Before Jesus Died and live- He commanded we christians not to judge you muslim, but to love you as we love ourself

Jesus commanded we christian to love God and love you muslims as well even though you are not his follower

Jesus commanded me to love all - muslims, christians, Hindus, idol worshipers and many more

You might be a Jihadist or boko haram- Jesus commanded me to love you even though Jihadist is of evil

You might be a good man or a bad man - Jesus commanded me to love you, be it the good you or the bad you.

The prophet Mohammed commanded you muslim and all his followers to killed us - the infidels who are not follower of allah

If my Jesus commanded me to kill my fellow humans because of God. I will not kill my fellow because I am love. Doing this will violate my nature.

Jesus is LOVE and all his command did not violate me because I am a love filled person.

Ayaaz: I, the jantman truly love you because Jesus has filled me with His love to you and to love all men.

Ayaaz: I love all my muslim brothers because Jesus commanded me not to judge them but to love them all.

The reason why we christians still demonstrate the miraclelous power of God is because the foundation of Christianity is pure LOVE

The power of God is currently flowing through we christians because; Love releases Gods power because love is the reason for the demonstration of His power.

The basic aspect of we christians is to grow in faith, but even more importantly, we must grow in Love as faith works by love.

We christians; the goal of our instruction is love from a pure heart and a good conscience and a sincere Faith.

Many years back I once encounter an Arab middle east muslim guy who converted to christianity because Christ commanded his followers to love and pray for those who hated and persecute us.

Ayaaz. You may be a muslim but I the jantman do not see you as a muslim. I see you as a man, a brother and a friend, created in God own image and likeness

Ayaaz my brother. Did you learn to love?

Love is an open door to access God the Father.
Love is an everlasting smile of approval.
Its the road less traveled yet love is the lonely mile.
Love is the unclaimed baggage left behind.
Love is sacrifice; love is gain.
Love is unknown and often has no name.
Love is childhood memories, forgetting the pain.
Its bearing our cross and giving Him our shame.
Love is tomorrow, today and forever.
Love is the Keeper of the keys.
Love meets you on bended knees.
Love sees through all impossibilities.
Love brings peace and stability.
Love brings hope
Love often challenges And makes you grow stronger.
Love is a tapestry of art, Gods workmanship; His heart.
Love knows no depth, no height, In its shadows only delight.
Love is timeless, it is narrow.
Love is inescapable.
Love bears up its brother.
There is no time in Love.
It is without Beginning
It is without End
Love is Eternal
Love is your Friend. Amen.
The future of this nation depends on Love.
Re: Foundational Debate Between A Muslim And A Christian by Ayaaz: 9:30pm On Apr 15
jantman:

THE HEADLINE: 'We Are Happy Whenever Unbelievers Are Killed' - Pantami (GazetteNGR) by lalasticlala




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[quote author=Jantman post=

@Ayaaz
I truly cannot enumerate the five pillars of Islam as I am very ignorant about islam. I mean I do not know the answer to your question because I dont practice islam.

All I have seen is that islam has promoted so much terrorism and shed so much blood in the name of allah

All I have seen is that islam has brought tears to the eyes of millions of muslims.

All I know is that islam has threatened the peace of the world.

My awareness of islam is that, islam did not conform men to Godlikeness and to unconditional love

Since all the pillars of islam could not conform muslim to love their fellow men with their heart and soul, then all the pillars of islam are faulty

Since all the basic tenet of islam failed to conform muslim to unconditionally love, to love non muslim, then all the basic tenets of islam are faulty.

Since all the basic aspect of islam did not conform muslim to be peace lovers, and has even threaten the peace of the world, then all the aspect of islam are faulty

I have seen that the foundation of islam is built on conflict and blood. The pillars, tenets, aspect of islam has produce, hate, violence, tears and sorrow.

Do you want to know the foundational aspect and basic tenets of Christianity?

Let me tell you

The foundation and basic tenets of Christianity is LOVE

God is Love. In love, God created we human beings in his own image, to love Him with our heart and soul, to rejoice in his endless love and to love one another.

The basic tenet of christianity was that It was also love that made - God the word to come down from heaven and became a man just to save us from sin and death.

The Lover- the savior we Christians known as Jesus Himself- died because of love

There is no greater love than this one — the greatest love one can have, which is to lay down ones life for someone.

Before Jesus Died and live- He commanded we christians not to judge you muslim, but to love you as we love ourself

Jesus commanded we christian to love God and love you muslims as well even though you are not his follower

Jesus commanded me to love all - muslims, christians, Hindus, idol worshipers and many more

You might be a Jihadist or boko haram- Jesus commanded me to love you even though Jihadist is of evil

You might be a good man or a bad man - Jesus commanded me to love you, be it the good you or the bad you.

The prophet Mohammed commanded you muslim and all his followers to killed us - the infidels who are not follower of allah

If my Jesus commanded me to kill my fellow humans because of God. I will not kill my fellow because I am love. Doing this will violate my nature.

Jesus is LOVE and all his command did not violate me because I am a love filled person.

Ayaaz: I, the jantman truly love you because Jesus has filled me with His love to you and to love all men.

Ayaaz: I love all my muslim brothers because Jesus commanded me not to judge them but to love them all.

The reason why we christians still demonstrate the miraclelous power of God is because the foundation of Christianity is pure LOVE

The power of God is currently flowing through we christians because; Love releases Gods power because love is the reason for the demonstration of His power.

The basic aspect of we christians is to grow in faith, but even more importantly, we must grow in Love as faith works by love.

We christians; the goal of our instruction is love from a pure heart and a good conscience and a sincere Faith.

Many years back I once encounter an Arab middle east muslim guy who converted to christianity because Christ commanded his followers to love and pray for those who hated and persecute us.

Ayaaz. You may be a muslim but I the jantman do not see you as a muslim. I see you as a man, a brother and a friend, created in God own image and likeness

Ayaaz my brother. Did you learn to love?

Love is an open door to access God the Father.
Love is an everlasting smile of approval.
Its the road less traveled yet love is the lonely mile.
Love is the unclaimed baggage left behind.
Love is sacrifice; love is gain.
Love is unknown and often has no name.
Love is childhood memories, forgetting the pain.
Its bearing our cross and giving Him our shame.
Love is tomorrow, today and forever.
Love is the Keeper of the keys.
Love meets you on bended knees.
Love sees through all impossibilities.
Love brings peace and stability.
Love brings hope
Love often challenges And makes you grow stronger.
Love is a tapestry of art, Gods workmanship; His heart.
Love knows no depth, no height, In its shadows only delight.
Love is timeless, it is narrow.
Love is inescapable.
Love bears up its brother.
There is no time in Love.
It is without Beginning
It is without End
Love is Eternal
Love is your Friend. Amen.
The future of this nation depends on Love.


I appreciate your admission that you lack knowledge

You say that you 'see', but with what lens do you 'see' and from what perspective

Some of the poorest and most disenfranchised people in the world are muslims, yet they'd rather give up their lives than give up their Islam...why do you think that is?

Next time if you want to pass judgement or criticize a thing, make sure you do so from a place of knowledge, not ignorance.
Re: Foundational Debate Between A Muslim And A Christian by KingOKON: 6:46am On Apr 16
[quote author=Ayaaz post=100829409][/quote].

Simply because they are poor, you think a rich Christian or Moslem will just die like that...

Religion is a curse, stop being religious Love is better than any religion

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Re: Foundational Debate Between A Muslim And A Christian by Ayaaz: 10:47am On Apr 16
KingOKON:
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Simply because they are poor, you think a rich Christian or Moslem will just die like that...

Religion is a curse, stop being religious Love is better than any religion

Just for the sake of argument

Hope you know that some of the most known 'terrorists' are from some of the richest families right?

Prime example: Osama bin Laden
Re: Foundational Debate Between A Muslim And A Christian by jantman(m): 12:41pm On Apr 16
[quote author=Ayaaz post=100829409][/quote]

@Ayaaz
The mindset of Muslims, ready to die for their religion is what is making them more violent. I am also sure your qu ran didn't warn them about the judgement of God on those who are violent.

Do you know that, there are pages of the qu ran where you can invoke babylonia spirit?

I will leave you more angry If I tell you the spiritual and deep truth on islam just to prove to you I am not spiritually ignorant on islam.

Since the birth of Islam, it has been nothing but tears, sorrows and death. Every nation on earth has felt the wrath of islam

To you I may sound too judgmental but I am speaking the truth. We humans were born with bias in our lives and we inherit it from the imperfections of sin nature present in this world.

Another reality is that every muslim is ready to kill and die in the name of allah /Mohammed and this is the difference between we christians and you muslims. We Christians don't need to kill for Jesus. It is Jesus Himself who came to die for us so that through His blood we can have His life in us. Just as (life is in the blood)

Our Jesus also told us that we will be persecuted and die for his sake which is true, that is why you see Christians are being persecuted and be killed. Your muslims jihadist are killing christians because we have seen the true light of the sun of righteousness and we keep following this eternal and never fading light of Jesus

Every christian is also thouht to grow into the perfection of God's love and we need to allow Gods perfect love to flow through our lives to others and to muslims as swell.

We are to love others as we love ourself and do unto others what we want others to do to us

These are the basic aspect, tenets and pillars of our Christianity
Re: Foundational Debate Between A Muslim And A Christian by jantman(m): 12:48pm On Apr 16
Ayaaz:


Just for the sake of argument

Hope you know that some of the most known 'terrorists' are from some of the richest families right?

Prime example: Osama bin Laden

@Ayaaz
Are you even proud of a person like Osama?

What did Osama bin Laden do with all his wealth?

Osama bin Laden used his wealth to kill and to destroy

Our Jesus who is the Teacher of all teachers once said that what does it profit a man to gain the whole world and lost his soul.

Osama bin Laden gain all vanity and later lost all
Re: Foundational Debate Between A Muslim And A Christian by KingOKON: 4:29pm On Apr 16
Ayaaz:


Just for the sake of argument

Hope you know that some of the most known 'terrorists' are from some of the richest families right?

Prime example: Osama bin Laden
.

Then leave out being poor or rich when talking about religion, any religious fanatics can ignorantly die for his or her faith

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