Every year, Muslims engage in all sorts of Islamic ritual, jihad, hajj, wudu, solat, etc. They put so much effort in trying to get people to convert to islam. They contribute towards building mosques and so many other things that they think will make them be saved and enter to their sex-themed paradise. I am always concerned about how devouted they are and so zealous for their god and his prophet Muhammad even ready to kill if you critic their prophet. I ask myself to what gain since many Muslims don't know that there is already a fixed amount of Muslims that will enter Jannah and this number have already been filled by the first followers of Muhammad.

For your information. Only 70,000 or 700,000 Muslims altogether will enter Jannah: the Islamic paradise of sex. Since the death of Muhammad 1400 years ago. The rest of you Muslims are lost doing endless wudu rituals in vain. It's painful how you lots 1.5billion of you think you are heading somewhere. This is why I am harsh with you lots so you see the stupidity of what you believe in. Listen to the prophet of Allah speak:

Hadith
حَدَّثَنَا مُحَمَّدُ بْنُ أَبِي بَكْرٍ الْمُقَدَّمِيُّ، حَدَّثَنَا فُضَيْلُ بْنُ سُلَيْمَانَ، عَنْ أَبِي حَازِمٍ، عَنْ سَهْلِ بْنِ سَعْدٍ ـ رضى الله عنه ـ عَنِ النَّبِيِّ صلى الله عليه وسلم ‏

‏ لَيَدْخُلَنَّ مِنْ أُمَّتِي سَبْعُونَ أَلْفًا ـ أَوْ سَبْعُمِائَةِ أَلْفٍ ـ لاَ يَدْخُلُ أَوَّلُهُمْ حَتَّى يَدْخُلَ آخِرُهُمْ، وَجُوهُهُمْ عَلَى صُورَةِ الْقَمَرِ لَيْلَةَ الْبَدْرِ ‏"
Narrated Sahl bin Sa`d:

The Prophet (ﷺ) said, "Verily! 70,000 or 700,000 of my followers will enter Paradise altogether; so that the first and the last amongst them will enter at the same time, and their faces will be glittering like the bright full moon."

Sahih al-Bukhari 3247
In-book : Book 59, Hadith 58
USC-MSA web (English) : Vol. 4, Book 54, Hadith 470  


Muslims, why waste all your earthly life following a clown prophet who spoke so contradictory? A clown prophet who has made it hard for you to accept the real Jesus of the New Testament. Do an independent study of the lives of Jesus and Muhammad and make a decision today on whom you will follow.

See question!
Instead of talking about yourself! Luke 13:23-24

PervertProphet:
Every year, Muslims engage in all sorts of Islamic ritual, jihad, hajj, wudu, solat, etc.

Hadith
حَدَّثَنَا مُحَمَّدُ بْنُ أَبِي بَكْرٍ الْمُقَدَّمِيُّ، حَدَّثَنَا فُضَيْلُ بْنُ سُلَيْمَانَ، عَنْ أَبِي حَازِمٍ، عَنْ سَهْلِ بْنِ سَعْدٍ ـ رضى الله عنه ـ عَنِ النَّبِيِّ صلى الله عليه وسلم ‏

‏ لَيَدْخُلَنَّ مِنْ أُمَّتِي سَبْعُونَ أَلْفًا ـ أَوْ سَبْعُمِائَةِ أَلْفٍ ـ لاَ يَدْخُلُ أَوَّلُهُمْ حَتَّى يَدْخُلَ آخِرُهُمْ، وَجُوهُهُمْ عَلَى صُورَةِ الْقَمَرِ لَيْلَةَ الْبَدْرِ ‏"
Narrated Sahl bin Sa`d:

The Prophet (ﷺ) said, "Verily! 70,000 or 700,000 of my followers will enter Paradise altogether; so that the first and the last amongst them will enter at the same time, and their faces will be glittering like the bright full moon."

Sahih al-Bukhari 3247
In-book : Book 59, Hadith 58
USC-MSA web (English) : Vol. 4, Book 54, Hadith 470  

This Hadith you have quoted is a weak Hadith. Half of Bukhari's hadith can be said to be untrustworthy!

Pot calling kettle black. The one they gave to you as Jesus in the Bible, do you know who He is? The true Messiah was an African, if you doubt it and say it's Isreal, Isreal is NE Africa and non whether in Isreal or Africa bear such name. What is the meaning of JE and SUS? You can get the meaning of any Africa name but can you do same with jesus?

It's the name of the son of a pope enforced on you all, added in the Bible to hide the identity of the true Messiah. You all had been calling it since 2000yrs ago ignorant of what was done in secret by Masonic pastors and popes and wicked bible deformers. All your religions are in error not only Muslims.

shadeyinka:


This Hadith you have quoted is a weak Hadith. Half of Bukhari's hadith can be said to be untrustworthy!

Look for Zam-Zam water to wash your eyes.

Another Muslim who doesn't know his qu'ran and hadiths but goes around claiming to be a Muslim.


Sahih means Authentic. Da'if means weak. Sahih al-Bukhari means authentic Bukhari hadith. You can't escape this. Save your soul from the scam that Muhammad has placed on you in the name of Islam. Why do you Muslims love to lie and deny for your confused prophet Muhammad when undeniable proof are placed before your front. Just look at the great lie you have told saying Sahih al-Bukhari is a weak hadith. Even your fellow Muslims are right now ashamed of you

If you still have your sanity intact. This is the time to start questioning the late clown Prophet Muhammad and save yourself from the destruction he is blindly leading you Muslims into.

bobestman:
[s]Pot calling kettle black. The one they gave to you as Jesus in the Bible, do you know who He is? The true Messiah was an African, if you doubt it and say it's Isreal, Isreal is NE Africa and non whether in Isreal or Africa bear such name. What is the meaning of JE and SUS? You can get the meaning of any Africa name but can you do same with jesus?

It's the name of the son of a pope enforced on you all, added in the Bible to hide the identity of the true Messiah. You all had been calling it since 2000yrs ago ignorant of what was done in secret by Masonic pastors and popes and wicked bible deformers. All your religions are in error not only Muslims[/s].

The ramblings of an Olodo.

The true Messiah in the first century arrived on the continent of Africa in Egypt thousand of years before even the Europeans even remotely heard of Christianity meaning Africans first encountered the true Messiah while the Europeans were still Druid Witches and Wizards. The type you watch in Harry Potter films.

The true significance of the Messiah is not in what Skin colour he had. The true significance lies in the fact that all major religions agree that He lived the kind of life not ordinary for a man. Even Islam agrees that He was Faultless unlike Muhammad that sinned. Islam said He spoke from the Cradle unlike no other. Islam called Him Al-Masih for no explainable reason as no other prophet of the Jews that they copied was called Messiah by them.

Jesus is the English of Yeshua which is Iesous(Greek) just like Ayo is the Yoruba of Blessing. Our Forefathers never wrote in Western typical characters. All our African languages borrowed the White man type of letter characterization. Show me proof of any African language writing our languages in Western styled letter characters like J, É, B, GB, etc before the 11th Century. Open any Yoruba or Igbo Bible. The Yoruba Bible renders the Word, Jesus as Jesu Kristi. You want to tell me Yoruba men before the 11th Century wrote in Western styled characterization like Jesus before then?

Clown. There were Orthodox Ethiopian and Egyptian (African) Churches before the Catholic Church so the Masonic rubbish you wrote up there is no name giver of the word, Jesus. Clown, you think you are dealing with some illiterate. Even the Latin alphabet has only 23 letters and the letter J is one of the letter missing in the Latin alphabet that is why in the Latin. The word Jesus is written as lesus. You can confirm from the Latin Vulgate Bibles if you have access to one so you can't even claim the White Masonic guys did all the hocus pocus you wrote.

I suggest you go read more instead of coming here with incorrect nonsensical "facts" that you watched on some Black Hebrew Israelites, Nation of Islam or Black Kemetic Youtube channel. You will be buried here with facts.

Bible deformers ko! Bible deformers ni!
Which Bible is "undeformed"? Let us start with that.

MaxInDHouse:
See question!
Instead of talking about yourself! Luke 13:23-24

You have come to defend your fellow false prophet blasphemers just like your group with the fruits of false predictions and prophecies, changed Doctrines, Pedophilia cases just like the Catholic Church you criticize, Beth-Sarin House and Rolls-Royce, Armageddon will come in 1914 then the "New Progressive light switched up" after 1914 failed and 1914 suddenly became the Start of the Invisible Reign(Revelation 13:6)

Why don't you start by explaining to us all the false prophecies that your so called "anointed class" Governing Body gave all through the years. Failed prophecies followed with more lies that they were never inspired by the Holyspirit when they considered themselves to be only Jehovah's representatives and channel of communication?


How about the Australian Royal Commission and Watchtower active cover up of Child abuse/Pedophilia cases over 1000 of this. Watchtower has accepted culpability by settling the majority of these cases out of court with "gag" clauses. Since 2010, more cases are being taken through the courts. Two high profile cases include Candice Conti, awarded $7,000,000, and Jose Lopez awarded $13,500,000.

How about Beth-Sarin House by Judge Rutherford?

You quoted Luke 13:23-24 but forgot Revelation 7:9-10 of the Great Crowd in Heaven before the throne same location as the 144,000. I am waiting for you to start pulling out the usual JW online library approved "independent research" of yours from your publishing bag.

Na wah o, simply because i advised you to focus on your own salvation, so plenty plenty tori like this dey your belle and dey keep am inside shey?

Well i don't want to derail your thread but if you truly want to know how misinformed you are about all these false information they fed you, let's treat them one after another.

So which one do you want us to treat first?

PervertProphet:


You have come to defend your fellow false prophet blasphemers just like your group with the fruits of false predictions and prophecies, changed Doctrines, Pedophilia cases just like the Catholic Church you criticize, Beth-Sarin House and Rolls-Royce, Armageddon will come in 1914 then the "New Progressive light switched up" after 1914 failed and 1914 suddenly became the Start of the Invisible Reign(Revelation 13:6)

Why don't you start by explaining to us all the false prophecies that your so called "anointed class" Governing Body gave all through the years. Failed prophecies followed with more lies that they were never inspired by the Holyspirit when they considered themselves to be only Jehovah's representatives and channel of communication?


How about the Australian Royal Commission and Watchtower active cover up of Child abuse/Pedophilia cases over 1000 of this. Watchtower has accepted culpability by settling the majority of these cases out of court with "gag" clauses. Since 2010, more cases are being taken through the courts. Two high profile cases include Candice Conti, awarded $7,000,000, and Jose Lopez awarded $13,500,000.

How about Beth-Sarin House by Judge Rutherford?

You quoted Luke 13:23-24 but forgot Revelation 7:9-10 of the Great Crowd in Heaven before the throne same location as the 144,000.

MaxInDHouse:
Na wah o, simply because i advised you to focus on your own salvation, so plenty plenty tori like this dey your belle and dey keep am inside shey?

Well i don't want to derail your thread but if you truly want to know how misinformed you are about all these false information they fed you, let's treat them one after another.

So which one do you want us to treat first?

The usual Governing Body gymnastics don start.
My brother no be bad belle establishing the truth. No one loves to be lied to.

I need a lot of explanations on what I wrote up there or you can start by explaining this below. This was before 1975. Who do I believe now? Your group that tells so much lies against the Bible or the Bible verses that you people are always misunderstanding, twisting, misinterpreting and later claiming in the future that you all got "new understanding and light" of these same Bible verses thus making a mockery of Jehovah's words and making the unbelievers to mock Jehovah as a "liar".

"If you are a young person, you also need to face the fact that you will never grow old in this present system of things. Why not? Because all the evidence in fulfillment of Bible prophecy indicates that this corrupt system is due to end in a few years. ... Therefore, as a young person, you will never fulfill any career that this system offers. If you are in highschool and thinking about a college education, it means at least four, perhaps even six or eight more years to graduate into a specialized career. But where will this system of things be by that time? It will be well on the way toward its finish, if not actually gone!" Awake! 1969 May 22 p.15

PervertProphet:


Look for Zam-Zam water to wash your eyes.

Another Muslim who doesn't know his qu'ran and hadiths but goes around claiming to be a Muslim.


Sahih means Authentic. Da'if means weak. Sahih al-Bukhari means authentic Bukhari hadith. You can't escape this. Save your soul from the scam that Muhammad has placed on you in the name of Islam. Why do you Muslims love to lie and deny for your confused prophet Muhammad when undeniable proof are placed before your front. Just look at the great lie you have told saying Sahih al-Bukhari is a weak hadith. Even your fellow Muslims are right now ashamed of you

If you still have your sanity intact. This is the time to start questioning the late clown Prophet Muhammad and save yourself from the destruction he is blindly leading you Muslims into.

I didn't say all Bukhari's hadith are weak, I said that the particular one you have raised is a weak Hadith. Except you can prove that it isn't a weak Hadith.

PervertProphet:


The ramblings of an Olodo.

The true Messiah in the first century arrived on the continent of Africa in Egypt thousand of years before even the Europeans even remotely heard of Christianity meaning Africans first encountered the true Messiah while the Europeans were still Druid Witches and Wizards. The type you watch in Harry Potter films.

The true significance of the Messiah is not in what Skin colour he had. The true significance lies in the fact that all major religions agree that He lived the kind of life not ordinary for a man. Even Islam agrees that He was Faultless unlike Muhammad that sinned. Islam said He spoke from the Cradle unlike no other. Islam called Him Al-Masih for no explainable reason as no other prophet of the Jews that they copied was called Messiah by them.

Jesus is the English of Yeshua which is Iesous(Greek) just like Ayo is the Yoruba of Blessing. Our Forefathers never wrote in Western typical characters. All our African languages borrowed the White man type of letter characterization. Show me proof of any African language writing our languages in Western styled letter characters like J, É, B, GB, etc before the 11th Century. Open any Yoruba or Igbo Bible. The Yoruba Bible renders the Word, Jesus as Jesu Kristi. You want to tell me Yoruba men before the 11th Century wrote in Western styled characterization like Jesus before then?

Clown. There were Orthodox Ethiopian and Egyptian (African) Churches before the Catholic Church so the Masonic rubbish you wrote up there is no name giver of the word, Jesus. Clown, you think you are dealing with some illiterate. Even the Latin alphabet has only 23 letters and the letter J is one of the letter missing in the Latin alphabet that is why in the Latin. The word Jesus is written as lesus. You can confirm from the Latin Vulgate Bibles if you have access to one so you can't even claim the White Masonic guys did all the hocus pocus you wrote.

I suggest you go read more instead of coming here with incorrect nonsensical "facts" that you watched on some Black Hebrew Israelites, Nation of Islam or Black Kemetic Youtube channel. You will be buried here with facts.

Bible deformers ko! Bible deformers ni!
Which Bible is "undeformed"? Let us start with that.

You call all the thrash you wrote up there as fact. All your facts up there are things that predates them that you and all who follow that religion can never know. All you know are but quarter truth

You said the church in Ethiopia predates even the one your Roman friends gave you, no problem. Do your Christian friends even agree with that? Compare them with the Ethiopean Christians and let's see if they will even agree with each other. You think the creator is part of the confusion in all your churches

About your Jesus, it's a wrong name and will always be. Yeshua and Jesus is not the same even when you translate to English. An acronym of the name was given on the cross or tree, what is the meaning "INRI"? Control your temper man and stop the insult. We are not fighting. The Messiah was born among us and was one of us. Keep dropping yeye facts you don't know

shadeyinka:

I didn't say all Bukhari's hadith are weak, I said that the particular one you have raised is a weak Hadith. Except you can prove that it isn't a weak Hadith.

My brother if you don't know Hadiths. Ask to be educated. Don't embarrass yourself in the public with wrong knowledge. Go and study the Narration Chain. The sunnah doesn't only even appear in this authentic Sahih al-Bukhari hadith that I quoted here for you here. Let me show you 3 more similar hadith all of them all authentic Hadiths and not Da'if hadith as you are clearly trying to lie before the public. Instead of trying to cover up and frame this hadith as weak instead you should be doing a soul search and ask yourself if you are not really just wasting time with Muhammad. This is what any honest person will be doing right now.

Hadith

حَدَّثَنَا سَعِيدُ بْنُ أَبِي مَرْيَمَ، حَدَّثَنَا أَبُو غَسَّانَ، قَالَ حَدَّثَنِي أَبُو حَازِمٍ، عَنْ سَهْلِ بْنِ سَعْدٍ، قَالَ قَالَ النَّبِيُّ صلى الله عليه وسلم ‏

‏ لَيَدْخُلَنَّ الْجَنَّةَ مِنْ أُمَّتِي سَبْعُونَ أَلْفًا أَوْ سَبْعُمِائَةِ أَلْفٍ ـ شَكَّ فِي أَحَدِهِمَا ـ مُتَمَاسِكِينَ، آخِذٌ بَعْضُهُمْ بِبَعْضٍ، حَتَّى يَدْخُلَ أَوَّلُهُمْ وَآخِرُهُمُ الْجَنَّةَ، وَوُجُوهُهُمْ عَلَى ضَوْءِ الْقَمَرِ لَيْلَةَ الْبَدْرِ ‏"

‏‏‏

Narrated Sahl bin Sa`d:

The Prophet (ﷺ) said, "Seventy-thousand or seven-hundred thousand of my followers (the narrator is in doubt as to the correct number) will enter Paradise holding each other till the first and the last of them enter Paradise at the same time, and their faces will have a glitter like that of the moon at night when it is full."

Sahih al-Bukhari 6543
In-book : Book 81, Hadith 132
USC-MSA web (English) : Vol. 8, Book 76, Hadith 551  

Hadith
حَدَّثَنَا قُتَيْبَةُ، حَدَّثَنَا عَبْدُ الْعَزِيزِ، عَنْ أَبِي حَازِمٍ، عَنْ سَهْلِ بْنِ سَعْدٍ، أَنَّ رَسُولَ اللَّهِ صلى الله عليه وسلم قَالَ ‏

‏ لَيَدْخُلَنَّ الْجَنَّةَ مِنْ أُمَّتِي سَبْعُونَ أَوْ سَبْعُمِائَةِ أَلْفٍ ـ لاَ يَدْرِي أَبُو حَازِمٍ أَيُّهُمَا قَالَ ـ مُتَمَاسِكُونَ، آخِذٌ بَعْضُهُمْ بَعْضًا، لاَ يَدْخُلُ أَوَّلُهُمْ حَتَّى يَدْخُلَ آخِرُهُمْ، وُجُوهُهُمْ عَلَى صُورَةِ الْقَمَرِ لَيْلَةَ الْبَدْرِ ‏"
Narrated Sahl bin Sa`d:

Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) said, "Seventy thousand or seven hundred thousand of my followers will enter Paradise. (Abu Hazim, the sub-narrator, is not sure as to which of the two numbers is correct.) They will be holding on to each other, the first will not entering the last one does, their faces like the moon on a full moon night."

Sahih al-Bukhari 6554
In-book : Book 81, Hadith 143
USC-MSA web (English) : Vol. 8, Book 76, Hadith 560  


Hadith
حَدَّثَنَا قُتَيْبَةُ بْنُ سَعِيدٍ، حَدَّثَنَا عَبْدُ الْعَزِيزِ، - يَعْنِي ابْنَ أَبِي حَازِمٍ - عَنْ أَبِي حَازِمٍ، عَنْ سَهْلِ بْنِ سَعْدٍ، أَنَّ رَسُولَ اللَّهِ صلى الله عليه وسلم قَالَ ‏

‏ لَيَدْخُلَنَّ الْجَنَّةَ مِنْ أُمَّتِي سَبْعُونَ أَلْفًا أَوْ سَبْعُمِائَةِ أَلْفٍ - لاَ يَدْرِي أَبُو حَازِمٍ أَيَّهُمَا قَالَ - مُتَمَاسِكُونَ آخِذٌ بَعْضُهُمْ بَعْضًا لاَ يَدْخُلُ أَوَّلُهُمْ حَتَّى يَدْخُلَ آخِرُهُمْ وُجُوهُهُمْ عَلَى صُورَةِ الْقَمَرِ لَيْلَةَ الْبَدْرِ ‏"
Abu Hazim narrated it on the authority of Ibn Sa'd that the Messenger of Allah (ﷺ) said:
Seventy thousand persons or seven hundred thousand persons (Abu Hazim does not remember the exact number) would enter Paradise holding and supporting one another, and the first among them would not enter till the last among them would enter (therein) ; (they would enter simultaneously) and their faces would be bright like the full moon.

Sahih Muslim 219
In-book : Book 1, Hadith 434
USC-MSA web (English) : Book 1, Hadith 424

PervertProphet:


My brother if you don't know Hadiths. Ask to be educated. Don't embarrass yourself in the public with wrong knowledge. Go and study the Narration Chain. The sunnah doesn't only even appear in this authentic Sahih al-Bukhari hadith that I quoted here for you here. Let me show you 3 more similar hadith all of them all authentic Hadiths and not Da'if hadith as you are clearly trying to lie before the public. Instead of trying to cover up and frame this hadith as weak instead you should be doing a soul search and ask yourself if you are not really just wasting time with Muhammad. This is what any honest person will be doing right now.

Hadith

حَدَّثَنَا سَعِيدُ بْنُ أَبِي مَرْيَمَ، حَدَّثَنَا أَبُو غَسَّانَ، قَالَ حَدَّثَنِي أَبُو حَازِمٍ، عَنْ سَهْلِ بْنِ سَعْدٍ، قَالَ قَالَ النَّبِيُّ صلى الله عليه وسلم ‏

‏ لَيَدْخُلَنَّ الْجَنَّةَ مِنْ أُمَّتِي سَبْعُونَ أَلْفًا أَوْ سَبْعُمِائَةِ أَلْفٍ ـ شَكَّ فِي أَحَدِهِمَا ـ مُتَمَاسِكِينَ، آخِذٌ بَعْضُهُمْ بِبَعْضٍ، حَتَّى يَدْخُلَ أَوَّلُهُمْ وَآخِرُهُمُ الْجَنَّةَ، وَوُجُوهُهُمْ عَلَى ضَوْءِ الْقَمَرِ لَيْلَةَ الْبَدْرِ ‏"

‏‏‏

Narrated Sahl bin Sa`d:

The Prophet (ﷺ) said, "Seventy-thousand or seven-hundred thousand of my followers (the narrator is in doubt as to the correct number) will enter Paradise holding each other till the first and the last of them enter Paradise at the same time, and their faces will have a glitter like that of the moon at night when it is full."

Sahih al-Bukhari 6543
In-book : Book 81, Hadith 132
USC-MSA web (English) : Vol. 8, Book 76, Hadith 551  

Hadith
حَدَّثَنَا قُتَيْبَةُ، حَدَّثَنَا عَبْدُ الْعَزِيزِ، عَنْ أَبِي حَازِمٍ، عَنْ سَهْلِ بْنِ سَعْدٍ، أَنَّ رَسُولَ اللَّهِ صلى الله عليه وسلم قَالَ ‏

‏ لَيَدْخُلَنَّ الْجَنَّةَ مِنْ أُمَّتِي سَبْعُونَ أَوْ سَبْعُمِائَةِ أَلْفٍ ـ لاَ يَدْرِي أَبُو حَازِمٍ أَيُّهُمَا قَالَ ـ مُتَمَاسِكُونَ، آخِذٌ بَعْضُهُمْ بَعْضًا، لاَ يَدْخُلُ أَوَّلُهُمْ حَتَّى يَدْخُلَ آخِرُهُمْ، وُجُوهُهُمْ عَلَى صُورَةِ الْقَمَرِ لَيْلَةَ الْبَدْرِ ‏"
Narrated Sahl bin Sa`d:

Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) said, "Seventy thousand or seven hundred thousand of my followers will enter Paradise. (Abu Hazim, the sub-narrator, is not sure as to which of the two numbers is correct.) They will be holding on to each other, the first will not entering the last one does, their faces like the moon on a full moon night."

Sahih al-Bukhari 6554
In-book : Book 81, Hadith 143
USC-MSA web (English) : Vol. 8, Book 76, Hadith 560  

But paradise may be divided into sections. It may be that the 700,000 will occupy a different section and the rest the other part.

Let me call my brother AntiChristian to help me out.

PervertProphet:


The ramblings of an Olodo.

The true Messiah in the first century arrived on the continent of Africa in Egypt thousand of years before even the Europeans even remotely heard of Christianity meaning Africans first encountered the true Messiah while the Europeans were still Druid Witches and Wizards. The type you watch in Harry Potter films.

The true significance of the Messiah is not in what Skin colour he had. The true significance lies in the fact that all major religions agree that He lived the kind of life not ordinary for a man. Even Islam agrees that He was Faultless unlike Muhammad that sinned. Islam said He spoke from the Cradle unlike no other. Islam called Him Al-Masih for no explainable reason as no other prophet of the Jews that they copied was called Messiah by them.

Jesus is the English of Yeshua which is Iesous(Greek) just like Ayo is the Yoruba of Blessing. Our Forefathers never wrote in Western typical characters. All our African languages borrowed the White man type of letter characterization. Show me proof of any African language writing our languages in Western styled letter characters like J, É, B, GB, etc before the 11th Century. Open any Yoruba or Igbo Bible. The Yoruba Bible renders the Word, Jesus as Jesu Kristi. You want to tell me Yoruba men before the 11th Century wrote in Western styled characterization like Jesus before then?

Clown. There were Orthodox Ethiopian and Egyptian (African) Churches before the Catholic Church so the Masonic rubbish you wrote up there is no name giver of the word, Jesus. Clown, you think you are dealing with some illiterate. Even the Latin alphabet has only 23 letters and the letter J is one of the letter missing in the Latin alphabet that is why in the Latin. The word Jesus is written as lesus. You can confirm from the Latin Vulgate Bibles if you have access to one so you can't even claim the White Masonic guys did all the hocus pocus you wrote.

I suggest you go read more instead of coming here with incorrect nonsensical "facts" that you watched on some Black Hebrew Israelites, Nation of Islam or Black Kemetic Youtube channel. You will be buried here with facts.

Bible deformers ko! Bible deformers ni!
Which Bible is "undeformed"? Let us start with that.

Dude! You should change your moniker to SavageProphet because that suits you better...killing the muslims with their own sources, facts and truly interesting lines of argument.

PervertProphet:


My brother if you don't know Hadiths. Ask to be educated. Don't embarrass yourself in the public with wrong knowledge. Go and study the Narration Chain. The sunnah doesn't only even appear in this authentic Sahih al-Bukhari hadith that I quoted here for you here. Let me show you 3 more similar hadith all of them all authentic Hadiths and not Da'if hadith as you are clearly trying to lie before the public. Instead of trying to cover up and frame this hadith as weak instead you should be doing a soul search and ask yourself if you are not really just wasting time with Muhammad. This is what any honest person will be doing right now.

Hadith

حَدَّثَنَا سَعِيدُ بْنُ أَبِي مَرْيَمَ، حَدَّثَنَا أَبُو غَسَّانَ، قَالَ حَدَّثَنِي أَبُو حَازِمٍ، عَنْ سَهْلِ بْنِ سَعْدٍ، قَالَ قَالَ النَّبِيُّ صلى الله عليه وسلم ‏

‏ لَيَدْخُلَنَّ الْجَنَّةَ مِنْ أُمَّتِي سَبْعُونَ أَلْفًا أَوْ سَبْعُمِائَةِ أَلْفٍ ـ شَكَّ فِي أَحَدِهِمَا ـ مُتَمَاسِكِينَ، آخِذٌ بَعْضُهُمْ بِبَعْضٍ، حَتَّى يَدْخُلَ أَوَّلُهُمْ وَآخِرُهُمُ الْجَنَّةَ، وَوُجُوهُهُمْ عَلَى ضَوْءِ الْقَمَرِ لَيْلَةَ الْبَدْرِ ‏"

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Narrated Sahl bin Sa`d:

The Prophet (ﷺ) said, "Seventy-thousand or seven-hundred thousand of my followers (the narrator is in doubt as to the correct number) will enter Paradise holding each other till the first and the last of them enter Paradise at the same time, and their faces will have a glitter like that of the moon at night when it is full."

Sahih al-Bukhari 6543
In-book : Book 81, Hadith 132
USC-MSA web (English) : Vol. 8, Book 76, Hadith 551  

Hadith
حَدَّثَنَا قُتَيْبَةُ، حَدَّثَنَا عَبْدُ الْعَزِيزِ، عَنْ أَبِي حَازِمٍ، عَنْ سَهْلِ بْنِ سَعْدٍ، أَنَّ رَسُولَ اللَّهِ صلى الله عليه وسلم قَالَ ‏

‏ لَيَدْخُلَنَّ الْجَنَّةَ مِنْ أُمَّتِي سَبْعُونَ أَوْ سَبْعُمِائَةِ أَلْفٍ ـ لاَ يَدْرِي أَبُو حَازِمٍ أَيُّهُمَا قَالَ ـ مُتَمَاسِكُونَ، آخِذٌ بَعْضُهُمْ بَعْضًا، لاَ يَدْخُلُ أَوَّلُهُمْ حَتَّى يَدْخُلَ آخِرُهُمْ، وُجُوهُهُمْ عَلَى صُورَةِ الْقَمَرِ لَيْلَةَ الْبَدْرِ ‏"
Narrated Sahl bin Sa`d:

Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) said, "Seventy thousand or seven hundred thousand of my followers will enter Paradise. (Abu Hazim, the sub-narrator, is not sure as to which of the two numbers is correct.) They will be holding on to each other, the first will not entering the last one does, their faces like the moon on a full moon night."

Sahih al-Bukhari 6554
In-book : Book 81, Hadith 143
USC-MSA web (English) : Vol. 8, Book 76, Hadith 560  


Hadith
حَدَّثَنَا قُتَيْبَةُ بْنُ سَعِيدٍ، حَدَّثَنَا عَبْدُ الْعَزِيزِ، - يَعْنِي ابْنَ أَبِي حَازِمٍ - عَنْ أَبِي حَازِمٍ، عَنْ سَهْلِ بْنِ سَعْدٍ، أَنَّ رَسُولَ اللَّهِ صلى الله عليه وسلم قَالَ ‏

‏ لَيَدْخُلَنَّ الْجَنَّةَ مِنْ أُمَّتِي سَبْعُونَ أَلْفًا أَوْ سَبْعُمِائَةِ أَلْفٍ - لاَ يَدْرِي أَبُو حَازِمٍ أَيَّهُمَا قَالَ - مُتَمَاسِكُونَ آخِذٌ بَعْضُهُمْ بَعْضًا لاَ يَدْخُلُ أَوَّلُهُمْ حَتَّى يَدْخُلَ آخِرُهُمْ وُجُوهُهُمْ عَلَى صُورَةِ الْقَمَرِ لَيْلَةَ الْبَدْرِ ‏"
Abu Hazim narrated it on the authority of Ibn Sa'd that the Messenger of Allah (ﷺ) said:
Seventy thousand persons or seven hundred thousand persons (Abu Hazim does not remember the exact number) would enter Paradise holding and supporting one another, and the first among them would not enter till the last among them would enter (therein) ; (they would enter simultaneously) and their faces would be bright like the full moon.

Sahih Muslim 219
In-book : Book 1, Hadith 434
USC-MSA web (English) : Book 1, Hadith 424  

Stop lying against the prophet of Allah.

This hadith was recorded when he did not know what he was doing. And according to the laws , he can't be held liable because it was said during his insane moments :

Hadith

Narrated Aisha:
Once the Prophet (ﷺ) was bewitched so that he began to imagine that he had done a thing which in fact he had not done.

Sahih al-Bukhari 3175
In-book : Book 58, Hadith 17
USC-MSA web (English) : Vol. 4, Book 53, Hadith 400  (deprecated)
Sahih Bukhari

During that period explained above , he said this also :

Hadith

It was narrated that Abu Sa'eed Al-Khudri said:

"It was said: 'O Messenger of Allah, you perform Wudu' from the well into which the bodies of dogs, menstrual rags and garbage are thrown?' He said: 'Water is pure and it is not made impure by anything.'"

Hasan (Darussalam)
Sunan an-Nasa'i 326
In-book : Book 2, Hadith 2
English translation : Vol. 1, Book 2, Hadith 327
Sunan an-Nasai

I am posting all these to warn you so that Allah does not send the devil after you .

bobestman:


[s]You call all the thrash you wrote up there as fact. All your facts up there are things that predates them that you and all who follow that religion can never know. All you know are but quarter truth

You said the church in Ethiopia predates even the one your Roman friends gave you, no problem. Do your Christian friends even agree with that? Compare them with the Ethiopean Christians and let's see if they will even agree with each other. You think the creator is part of the confusion in all your churches

About your Jesus, it's a wrong name and will always be. Yeshua and Jesus is not the same even when you translate to English. An acronym of the name was given on the cross or tree, what is the meaning "INRI"? Control your temper man and stop the insult. We are not fighting. The Messiah was born among us and was one of us. Keep dropping yeye facts you don't know[/s]

You have still not shown me how African languages were written before the 10th Century.
Where they written in another styled characterization like the hieroglyphics of the
Black Nubian Egyptians(Don't forget that a School of thought says that the Yorubas migrated from Egypt) or is it the same western styled letter characterization that we use today in writing our African languages. We are not fighting truly but sometimes I tend to be harsh on people who come up with frivolities that are of no significance just to make it seem like they really know what they are talking about.

Show me a time in history where all humans agree on a subject matter. Even within your nuclear family. Do you totally agree 100% with the views of your dad or your brother or your child. That's impossible. This deceit that all Christians must agree on minor matters is false one not taught anywhere biblically. All Christians can agree on the major thing which is the person of Jesus Christ and how he is central to the salvation of all mankind based on the perfect life he lived unlike no other human. Every other thing is of no essence if we dispute over it. Silly stuff like His skin colour, name in the different languages and how it must be spelt, etc are frivolities by unserious people who love to hold on to human traditions and myths instead of the person of Jesus. Even within your Black Jesus belief system. I have given you 3 different all black based racial groups that have different opinions on Jesus despite they teach that Jesus was an African.

Even the word, Africa was given us. So much for your noise about the name Jesus. Why do you go about calling yourself African when no one truly knows how we became called African. Use the same logic that you are making noise about the skin and name of Jesus on yourself and your belief system and see they can't even hold up to the light when they are tested. The Masonic people you hate. Their forefathers, the Romans are believed to be the ones who gave our continent the name, African. Another school of thought is of the opinion that Africa as a word was gotten from the Phoenicians. Which african language today is the word, Africa derived from?

No one knows for sure how we began to be called African from the Roman empire time. Nigeria as a Nation was not even in existence so I doubt you can show me a place where all Africans sat down and agreed to be called Africans. Even our skin colour is the most diverse. There is no one black skin to us so you can't claim all these funny white man vs black man skin tone. Africa is home to the most diverse skin colour from the lightest of skin colour to the darkest of skin colours. Jesus Christ skin colour is of no significance. Why don't you also research his house address and where he lived in Africa and if he used Water Closet Toilet or Latrine Pit. This shows the ridiculousness of your research. God is a serious individual and was never interested in giving us records of nonsensical things unlike the Muslim Allah who was serious with giving us ridiculous records of Muhammad's Skin colour, how he went to toilet, how he slept with a 9year old girl child, how he cupped, how he wanted no Picture on curtains, throw pillows, etc. The true God is not that unserious. He came for serious business which was saving Mankind that trust and believe in Him.

Forgive my temperatment. I have the temperament of the one who baptized Jesus. Even himself who baptized Jesus and knew of the greatness of Jesus before Jesus came in flesh also doubted about Jesus.

John 1:27-30 KJV — He it is, who coming after me is preferred before me, whose shoe's latchet I am not worthy to unloose. These things were done in Bethabara beyond Jordan, where John was baptizing. The next day John seeth Jesus coming unto him, and saith, Behold the Lamb of God, which taketh away the sin of the world. This is he of whom I said, After me cometh a man which is preferred before me: for he was before me.

It is this the same John that still sent two of his disciples to ask if Jesus was the Messiah meaning that he became confused and doubtful at a certain time despite what Jesus said about John.

Luke 7:19-30 KJV — And John calling unto him two of his disciples sent them to Jesus, saying, Art thou he that should come? or look we for another? When the men were come unto him, they said, John Baptist hath sent us unto thee, saying, Art thou he that should come? or look we for another? And in that same hour he cured many of their infirmities and plagues, and of evil spirits; and unto many that were blind he gave sight. Then Jesus answering said unto them, Go your way, and tell John what things ye have seen and heard; how that the blind see, the lame walk, the lepers are cleansed, the deaf hear, the dead are raised, to the poor the gospel is preached. And blessed is he, whosoever shall not be offended in me. And when the messengers of John were departed, he began to speak unto the people concerning John, What went ye out into the wilderness for to see? A reed shaken with the wind? But what went ye out for to see? A man clothed in soft raiment? Behold, they which are gorgeously apparelled, and live delicately, are in kings' courts. But what went ye out for to see? A prophet? Yea, I say unto you, and much more than a prophet. This is he, of whom it is written, Behold, I send my messenger before thy face, which shall prepare thy way before thee. For I say unto you, Among those that are born of women there is not a greater prophet than John the Baptist: but he that is least in the kingdom of God is greater than he. And all the people that heard him, and the publicans, justified God, being baptized with the baptism of John. But the Pharisees and lawyers rejected the counsel of God against themselves, being not baptized of him.

shadeyinka:

But paradise may be divided into sections. It may be that the 700,000 will occupy a different section and the rest the other part.

Let me call my brother AntiChristian to help me out.

So you are saying that you are not a Muslim and that Antichristian knows better than Muhammad who said that "70,000 or 700,000 of his followers will enter paradise at the same time holding each other till the first and the last of them enter paradise at the same time,....."

PervertProphet:


So you are saying that you are not a Muslim and that Antichristian knows better than Muhammad who said that "70,000 or 700,000 of his followers will enter paradise at the same time holding each other till the first and the last of them enter paradise at the same time,....."

When I can't answer questions like this, I send it to the authorities who should know better. My friends AntiChristian, Empiree and aadoiza could also be of help.
Thanks

efficiencie:


Dude! You should change your moniker to SavageProphet because that suits you better...killing the muslims with their own sources, facts and truly interesting lines of argument.

Thank you Sir/ma.

In these days of aggressive false teachers and teachings on the rise. We need to be ready with answers as the souls held captive by these false teachers, teachings and organizations who wage war on all fronts against the Lamb.

Revelation 5:12 KJV — Saying with a loud voice, Worthy is the Lamb that was slain to receive power, and riches, and wisdom, and strength, and honour, and glory, and blessing.


Revelation 17:14 NLT — Together they will go to war against the Lamb, but the Lamb will defeat them because he is Lord of all lords and King of all kings. And his called and chosen and faithful ones will be with him.”


We need to be ready to give answers in honour of the Lamb.

enilove:


Stop lying against the prophet of Allah.

This hadith was recorded when he did not know what he was doing. And according to the laws , he can't be held liable because it was said during his insane moments :

Hadith

Narrated Aisha:
Once the Prophet (ﷺ) was bewitched so that he began to imagine that he had done a thing which in fact he had not done.

Sahih al-Bukhari 3175
In-book : Book 58, Hadith 17
USC-MSA web (English) : Vol. 4, Book 53, Hadith 400  (deprecated)
Sahih Bukhari

During that period explained above , he said this also :

Hadith

It was narrated that Abu Sa'eed Al-Khudri said:

"It was said: 'O Messenger of Allah, you perform Wudu' from the well into which the bodies of dogs, menstrual rags and garbage are thrown?' He said: 'Water is pure and it is not made impure by anything.'"

Hasan (Darussalam)
Sunan an-Nasa'i 326
In-book : Book 2, Hadith 2
English translation : Vol. 1, Book 2, Hadith 327
Sunan an-Nasai

I am posting all these to warn you so that Allah does not send the devil after you .

I see what you are doing.

The Confused Prophet Muhammad was so betwitched by Satan that he thought he did boom-boom in the room when he didn't.

If these doesn't show Muslims how mentally unstable Muhammad. I fear for their souls following after a clearly mentally disturbed man.

It's a sad thing that they love to follow after a clear mad possessed Muhammad while rejecting the very words of Jesus the one that they call the Faultless One.

It's strange

shadeyinka:

But paradise may be divided into sections. It may be that the 700,000 will occupy a different section and the rest the other part.

Let me call my brother AntiChristian to help me out.

You are Christian posing as a Muslim. Why can't you tell him you are not a Muslim? Keep deceiving yourselves!

Your Christianity is based on spreading falsehood and twisting text away from what it means!

And the ahadith you quoted are authentic but your interpretation is wrong as usual.

The ahadith did not say only those people will enter Paradise. Here is another Hadith from Bukhari that explains those ahadith

Narrated Ibn 'Abbas: Allah's Apostle said, 'Nations were displayed before me; one or two prophets would pass by along with a few followers. A prophet would pass by accompanied by nobody. Then a big crowd of people passed in front of me and I asked, Who are they Are they my followers?" It was said, 'No. It is Moses and his followers It was said to me, 'Look at the horizon.'' Behold! There was a multitude of people filling the horizon. Then it was said to me, 'Look there and there about the stretching sky! Behold! There was a multitude filling the horizon,' It was said to me, 'This is your nation out of whom seventy thousand shall enter Paradise without reckoning.' "Then the Prophet entered his house without telling his companions who they (the 70,000) were. So the people started talking about the issue and said, "It is we who have believed in Allah and followed His Apostle; therefore those people are either ourselves or our children who are born m the Islamic era, for we were born in the Pre-lslamic Period of Ignorance.'' When the Prophet heard of that, he came out and said. "Those people are those who do not treat themselves with Ruqya, nor do they believe in bad or good omen (from birds etc.) nor do they get themselves branded (Cauterized). but they put their trust (only) in their Lord " On that 'Ukasha bin Muhsin said. "Am I one of them, O Allah's Apostle?' The Prophet said, "Yes." Then another person got up and said, "Am I one of them?" The Prophet said, 'Ukasha has anticipated you." Sahih Al-Bukhari [Volume: 7, Book: 71, Hadith 606 ]

So this explains the 70,000.

And in several other ahadith, the seventy thousands comes each with another seventy thousand and more.

It's inappropriate to use your half-baked Islamic knowlege to spread falsehood about Islam.
Did Jesus told you to Spread Christianity this way?

PervertProphet:





I see what you are doing.

The Confused Prophet Muhammad was so betwitched by Satan that he thought he did boom-boom in the room when he didn't.

If these doesn't show Muslims how mentally unstable Muhammad. I fear for their souls following after a clearly mentally disturbed man.

It's a sad thing that they love to follow after a clear mad possessed Muhammad while rejecting the very words of Jesus the one that they call the Faultless One.

It's strange

Look at the lies that Jesus of the Bible inspired you to type?
Which book of hadith is this?

shadeyinka:

When I can't answer questions like this, I send it to the authorities who should know better. My friends AntiChristian, Empiree and aadoiza could also be of help.
Thanks

Those 3 clowns who I have encountered numerous times on this platform. They don't know anything. Their job is to deceive you further into condemnation.

Don't tell me that they are in charge of your brain. You are educated to be able to read clearly for yourself what Muhammad said there. There is no escape or explanation that will change what Muhammad said there and you know that.

the last thing i will do is to argue over religious matter.
ya nt going to paradise by ur religion just get dat.
i would have loved it if this was posted in an atheist group... dem no kukuma dey support anybody.. by d way op nje e fura si pe skoinskoin bayin ja

Kroos205:
the last thing i will do is to argue over religious matter.
ya nt going to paradise by ur religion just get dat.
i would have loved it if this was posted in an atheist group... dem no kukuma dey support anybody.. by d way op nje e fura si pe skoinskoin bayin ja

Atheist no dey support anybody but they will be foolish not to know the danger of Islam even till these day in islamic countries. That is why endless numbers today of Muslims who have turned Atheists or Christians but still pretend to be Muslims so they won't be killed until they leave these islamic countries.

The Sword of Islam spares no one:

Hadith
حَدَّثَنَا أَبُو النُّعْمَانِ، مُحَمَّدُ بْنُ الْفَضْلِ حَدَّثَنَا حَمَّادُ بْنُ زَيْدٍ، عَنْ أَيُّوبَ، عَنْ عِكْرِمَةَ، قَالَ أُتِيَ عَلِيٌّ ـ رضى الله عنه ـ بِزَنَادِقَةٍ فَأَحْرَقَهُمْ فَبَلَغَ ذَلِكَ ابْنَ عَبَّاسٍ فَقَالَ لَوْ كُنْتُ أَنَا لَمْ أُحْرِقْهُمْ لِنَهْىِ رَسُولِ اللَّهِ صلى الله عليه وسلم وَلَقَتَلْتُهُمْ لِقَوْلِ رَسُولِ اللَّهِ صلى الله عليه وسلم ‏

‏ مَنْ بَدَّلَ دِينَهُ فَاقْتُلُوهُ ‏"
Narrated `Ikrima:

Some Zanadiqa (atheists) were brought to `Ali and he burnt them. The news of this event, reached Ibn `Abbas who said, "If I had been in his place, I would not have burnt them, as Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) forbade it, saying, 'Do not punish anybody with Allah's punishment (fire).' I would have killed them according to the statement of Allah's Messenger (ﷺ), 'Whoever changed his Islamic religion, then kill him.'"

Sahih al-Bukhari 6922
In-book : Book 88, Hadith 5
USC-MSA web (English) : Vol. 9, Book 84, Hadith 57

So you call people who are mimicking what is written in the Bible false prophet simply because they believe what is written, shey?

My friend, you don't know what false prophet means. I thought you're about to show me where the JWs prophesied something different from what is found written in God's word!

In the Bible John the baptist, Jesus of Nazareth and all the Christians keep saying "God's Kingdom is AT HAND"
Jesus even said to Apostle John (after showing him the Revelations of the end time) "surely i come quickly " and John enthusiastically responded "AMEN! Come Lord Jesus" Revelations 22:20

My friend, JWs only mimicked what Jesus said with FAITH so if you call JWs false prophets for that please what will you call Jesus who said what is written in the Bible book of John 11:25-26

Just say you don't believe in Jesus that's all, as for JWs our FAITH stands unshakable that Jesus is coming anytime from now! 2Peter 3:3-4

May you have PEACE!

PervertProphet:


The usual Governing Body gymnastics don start.
My brother no be bad belle establishing the truth. No one loves to be lied to.
I need a lot of explanations on what I wrote up there or you can start by explaining this below. This was before 1975. Who do I believe now? Your group that tells so much lies against the Bible or the Bible verses that you people are always misunderstanding, twisting, misinterpreting and later claiming in the future that you all got "new understanding and light" of these same Bible verses thus making a mockery of Jehovah's words and making the unbelievers to mock Jehovah as a "liar".
"If you are a young person, you also need to face the fact that you will never grow old in this present system of things. Why not? Because all the evidence in fulfillment of Bible prophecy indicates that this corrupt system is due to end in a few years. ... Therefore, as a young person, you will never fulfill any career that this system offers. If you are in highschool and thinking about a college education, it means at least four, perhaps even six or eight more years to graduate into a specialized career. But where will this system of things be by that time? It will be well on the way toward its finish, if not actually gone!" Awake! 1969 May 22 p.15

AntiChristian:


You are Christian posing as a Muslim. Why can't you tell him you are not a Muslim? Keep deceiving yourselves!

Your Christianity is based on spreading falsehood and twisting text away from what it means!

And the ahadith you quoted are authentic but your interpretation is wrong as usual.

The ahadith did not say only those people will enter Paradise. Here is another Hadith from Bukhari that explains those ahadith

Narrated Ibn 'Abbas: Allah's Apostle said, 'Nations were displayed before me; one or two prophets would pass by along with a few followers. A prophet would pass by accompanied by nobody. Then a big crowd of people passed in front of me and I asked, Who are they Are they my followers?" It was said, 'No. It is Moses and his followers It was said to me, 'Look at the horizon.'' Behold! There was a multitude of people filling the horizon. Then it was said to me, 'Look there and there about the stretching sky! Behold! There was a multitude filling the horizon,' It was said to me, 'This is your nation out of whom seventy thousand shall enter Paradise without reckoning.' "Then the Prophet entered his house without telling his companions who they (the 70,000) were. So the people started talking about the issue and said, "It is we who have believed in Allah and followed His Apostle; therefore those people are either ourselves or our children who are born m the Islamic era, for we were born in the Pre-lslamic Period of Ignorance.'' When the Prophet heard of that, he came out and said. "Those people are those who do not treat themselves with Ruqya, nor do they believe in bad or good omen (from birds etc.) nor do they get themselves branded (Cauterized). but they put their trust (only) in their Lord " On that 'Ukasha bin Muhsin said. "Am I one of them, O Allah's Apostle?' The Prophet said, "Yes." Then another person got up and said, "Am I one of them?" The Prophet said, 'Ukasha has anticipated you." Sahih Al-Bukhari [Volume: 7, Book: 71, Hadith 606 ]

So this explains the 70,000.

And in several other ahadith, the seventy thousands comes each with another seventy thousand and more.

It's inappropriate to use your half-baked Islamic knowlege to spread falsehood about Islam.
Did Jesus told you to Spread Christianity this way?

Sometimes, it's good to be the devil's advocate. I only answered the questions according to the kind of answers I normally get from Muslims. It's unfortunate that PervertProphet didn't check to see my pun. I don't joke with my Spiritual Identity.

Now, back to the issue. You will discover that I didn't engage you Muslims on the interpretation of the Hadith stated by the OP.

But since you have stated your position, I want to state that you didn't say anything different from what the Hadith said. There is the figure 700,000 which seems to be the ceiling even from your explanation. I think Mohammed said that because he never knew that Islam will produce billions of adherents all over the world. And of a truth, 700,000 is a large crowd only small when you compare to the population of Muslims in the world

PervertProphet:


You have still not shown me how African languages were written before the 10th Century.
Where they written in another styled characterization like the hieroglyphics of the
Black Nubian Egyptians(Don't forget that a School of thought says that the Yorubas migrated from Egypt) or is it the same western styled letter characterization that we use today in writing our African languages. We are not fighting truly but sometimes I tend to be harsh on people who come up with frivolities that are of no significance just to make it seem like they really know what they are talking about.

Show me a time in history where all humans agree on a subject matter. Even within your nuclear family. Do you totally agree 100% with the views of your dad or your brother or your child. That's impossible. This deceit that all Christians must agree on minor matters is false one not taught anywhere biblically. All Christians can agree on the major thing which is the person of Jesus Christ and how he is central to the salvation of all mankind based on the perfect life he lived unlike no other human. Every other thing is of no essence if we dispute over it. Silly stuff like His skin colour, name in the different languages and how it must be spelt, etc are frivolities by unserious people who love to hold on to human traditions and myths instead of the person of Jesus. Even within your Black Jesus belief system. I have given you 3 different all black based racial groups that have different opinions on Jesus despite they teach that Jesus was an African.

Even the word, Africa was given us. So much for your noise about the name Jesus. Why do you go about calling yourself African when no one truly knows how we became called African. Use the same logic that you are making noise about the skin and name of Jesus on yourself and your belief system and see they can't even hold up to the light when they are tested. The Masonic people you hate. Their forefathers, the Romans are believed to be the ones who gave our continent the name, African. Another school of thought is of the opinion that Africa as a word was gotten from the Phoenicians. Which african language today is the word, Africa derived from?

No one knows for sure how we began to be called African from the Roman empire time. Nigeria as a Nation was not even in existence so I doubt you can show me a place where all Africans sat down and agreed to be called Africans. Even our skin colour is the most diverse. There is no one black skin to us so you can't claim all these funny white man vs black man skin tone. Africa is home to the most diverse skin colour from the lightest of skin colour to the darkest of skin colours. Jesus Christ skin colour is of no significance. Why don't you also research his house address and where he lived in Africa and if he used Water Closet Toilet or Latrine Pit. This shows the ridiculousness of your research. God is a serious individual and was never interested in giving us records of nonsensical things unlike the Muslim Allah who was serious with giving us ridiculous records of Muhammad's Skin colour, how he went to toilet, how he slept with a 9year old girl child, how he cupped, how he wanted no Picture on curtains, throw pillows, etc. The true God is not that unserious. He came for serious business which was saving Mankind that trust and believe in Him.

Forgive my temperatment. I have the temperament of the one who baptized Jesus. Even himself who baptized Jesus and knew of the greatness of Jesus before Jesus came in flesh also doubted about Jesus.

John 1:27-30 KJV — He it is, who coming after me is preferred before me, whose shoe's latchet I am not worthy to unloose. These things were done in Bethabara beyond Jordan, where John was baptizing. The next day John seeth Jesus coming unto him, and saith, Behold the Lamb of God, which taketh away the sin of the world. This is he of whom I said, After me cometh a man which is preferred before me: for he was before me.

It is this the same John that still sent two of his disciples to ask if Jesus was the Messiah meaning that he became confused and doubtful at a certain time despite what Jesus said about John.

Luke 7:19-30 KJV — And John calling unto him two of his disciples sent them to Jesus, saying, Art thou he that should come? or look we for another? When the men were come unto him, they said, John Baptist hath sent us unto thee, saying, Art thou he that should come? or look we for another? And in that same hour he cured many of their infirmities and plagues, and of evil spirits; and unto many that were blind he gave sight. Then Jesus answering said unto them, Go your way, and tell John what things ye have seen and heard; how that the blind see, the lame walk, the lepers are cleansed, the deaf hear, the dead are raised, to the poor the gospel is preached. And blessed is he, whosoever shall not be offended in me. And when the messengers of John were departed, he began to speak unto the people concerning John, What went ye out into the wilderness for to see? A reed shaken with the wind? But what went ye out for to see? A man clothed in soft raiment? Behold, they which are gorgeously apparelled, and live delicately, are in kings' courts. But what went ye out for to see? A prophet? Yea, I say unto you, and much more than a prophet. This is he, of whom it is written, Behold, I send my messenger before thy face, which shall prepare thy way before thee. For I say unto you, Among those that are born of women there is not a greater prophet than John the Baptist: but he that is least in the kingdom of God is greater than he. And all the people that heard him, and the publicans, justified God, being baptized with the baptism of John. But the Pharisees and lawyers rejected the counsel of God against themselves, being not baptized of him.

Hahahaha....you make me laugh bro. I was just reading and laughing. You think you can intimidate me with all the epistles you wrote down there. I don't do research and not too vast in writing but the little I knew is far greater than all you have ever knew.

Civilization began in Africa. A language in Africa is the etymology of all languages on earth. Creation took place in a land in Africa and the first man was in that land who is a replica of tbe one you ignorantly call Jesus cos it is what they put in the Bible for you. Go and find out who are these ppl and the true ones there will teach you everything you desire to know since creation till now. Even your Bible tells you they will show you the truth hidden since the creation of the world - Isaiah 44:7. Whether you call it Africa or agree it's another thing, it's the land of the chosen ones, the people the creator called His own. I told you to tell me the meaning of "INRI" they put on the tree of the Messiah.

Do you know that was nothing like Egypt? Do you know the ppl who are Egypt?
Do you know things that were added and removed from the scripture ?
Do you know that the scripture was sealed since the days Daniel and He was told the truth will only come out in the time of the end which is now - Dan 12:4 and all you have been reading are the wrong interpret ions cos it was sealed, the true knowledge was locked up, so those who hijacked the book interpreted it according to their little understanding. I can go on and on but you will never understand cos your mind is made up with the little you know.

We are in the age of knowledge and many spiritual beings are already on earth in human terbanacle to wake up the children before the end. You will hear things you have not heard before cos truth always shock ppl. Be doing shakara, that's your own cup of tea.

I will still remind you again that the one they gave to you as Jesus in the Messiah is not the true messiah. The identity of the true Messiah was hidden by the powers that rule the world and the credited it all to your Jesus - Identity theft. Many of you don't know and will never agree till you see it with your eyes. According to the law of duality, everything is in twos. There are 2 Messiahs, one is real, the other is fake. Let's keep watching.

You bash Muslims not knowing that Christians also have their many errors. Infact all are in error and all we know are but half truth till the time of correction or restitution of all things. Ponder on those words.

PervertProphet:


Those 3 clowns who I have encountered numerous times on this platform. They don't know anything. Their job is to deceive you further into condemnation.

Don't tell me that they are in charge of your brain. You are educated to be able to read clearly for yourself what Muhammad said there. There is no escape or explanation that will change what Muhammad said there and you know that.

I didn't tell you I was a Moslem. I only answered you using their usual excuses

MaxInDHouse:
So you call people who are mimicking what is written in the Bible false prophet simply because they believe what is written, shey?

My friend, you don't know what false prophet means. I thought you're about to show me where the JWs prophesied something different from what is found written in God's word!

In the Bible John the baptist, Jesus of Nazareth and all the Christians keep saying "God's Kingdom is AT HAND"
Jesus even said to Apostle John (after showing him the Revelations of the end time) "surely i come quickly " and John enthusiastically responded "AMEN! Come Lord Jesus" Revelations 22:20

My friend, JWs only mimicked what Jesus said with FAITH so if you call JWs false prophets for that please what will you call Jesus who said what is written in the Bible book of John 11:25-26

Just say you don't believe in Jesus that's all, as for JWs our FAITH stands unshakable that Jesus is coming anytime from now! 2Peter 3:3-4

May you have PEACE!

My brother, Max. Forget these rancid recapitulated JW online library agitprop that don't add up Biblically where the Governing Body performs it's special type of Bible exegesis and acrobatics to arrive at answers that explain away all the lies that they have heard and affirmed to be true in the past but have now retracted making Jehovah look like a "clown" to the unbelievers. Your position is not different from the Muslim position where he denies his own sources but also races to the Bible to make use of verses and analogies that don't add up in the Bible to try and justify his lies instead of just admitting to the clear errors and lies in your publications.

Where do we start with your group even though I have asked you to explain some quotes from your publications which you have clearly avoided and instead have hurried to dump some of these JW acrobatics to explain away what is embarrassing about their history that goes back to the times of Judge Rutherford and Minister Russell.

A false prophet or false prophet organisation refers to a person or organisation that sets themselves up as a source of spiritual authority or teacher who claims to speak for God making such claims of an evil ends that never comes to pass. You will certainly know false prophets by their fruits no matter how very clever they try to mask as the light. In the last dispensation even among some of these crazy pastors just like the JW organisation. One very important mark you can never miss in identifying false prophets is contained as informed by Jesus Christ is contained in Mark 13:5-8 NKJV — And Jesus, answering them, began to say: “Take heed that no one deceives you. “For many will come in My name, saying, ‘I am He,’ and will deceive many. “But when you hear of wars and rumors of wars, do not be troubled; for such things must happen, but the end is not yet. “For nation will rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom. And there will be earthquakes in various places, and there will be famines and troubles. These are the beginnings of sorrows.

False Prophets and False Prophet organisations are always alarmist in nature. This fruit of theirs never fails. I could show several Qur'an and hadiths of Muhammad doing same. The JW organisation leadership starting from Minister Russell who lifted and copied the Nelson H. Barbour and Millerites false alarmist end of the ages predictions. This is also continued also in the times of Rutherford where wars, sufferings, etc are interpreted to mean that Armageddon is imminent upon us contrary to what Jesus Christ himself said that we do not panic or get deceived when we see Wars, nations rising against nations, etc as these are just the beginning of the trial and not yet the end. What false organisations like yours do in a Jim Jones styled hysteria is to raise the panic levels of the people and after then introduce them to flip flopping doctrines that they always have to constantly revise as "updated light". When all these failed all those years of false predictions by the JW organisation. They are now a little modest on their alarmist approach but you can still see it with their publications where they try so hard to manipulate the people with the present sufferings they are going through to try and imply that they need to study the Bible with JW in other to escape Armageddon. This alarmist approach is evident in how I have Jehovah Witnesses around me and even Watchtower portray world events as so bad that human life is at immediate risk of annhilation, and some Watchtower article, or recent world event, has Jehovah's Witnesses in a panic, or flurry of excitement, that Armageddon is upon us.

You already know what Deuteronomy 18:20-22(NWT):
“‘If any prophet presumptuously speaks a word in my name that I did not command him to speak or speaks in the name of other gods, that prophet must die.+ 21 However, you may say in your heart: “How will we know that Jehovah has not spoken the word?” 22 When the prophet speaks in the name of Jehovah and the word is not fulfilled or does not come true, then Jehovah did not speak that word. The prophet spoke it presumptuously. You should not fear him.’


Even aside Jehovah condemning false prophecies of dates. The Watchtower Society also condemns itself as JW organisation clearly states here in her publication that predicting a date that sees the end of the world amounts to false prophesy. Even Jesus Christ never gave a certain date that will see the end of the World. He was wise to get the disciples mind of that who before they encountered the Holy Spirit of God had the same alarmist approach that Jehovah Witnesses have today that leads the organisation to a manner of false prophecy and flip in doctrines which is a testament to the fact that the Holy Spirit of God is absent with the Watchtower Society hence the several inconsistencies and failed prophecies.


"True, there have been those in times past who predicted an "end to the world," even announcing a specific date. Yet nothing happened. The "end" did not come. They were guilty of false prophesying. Why? What was missing?

Missing from such people were God's truths and the evidence that he was guiding and using them." Awake! 1968 Oct 8 p.23

They even misinterpreted politicians who obviously are not using Bible verses in their political analysis as a form of false prophet while you MaxInDHouse is trying to do the same stale JW acrobatics to exonerate yourself from the failed predictions and prophecies when you all actively teach the Bible. What hypocrisy!!

"Political leaders often end up being “false prophets” unable to fulfill their promises. Of course, not every ruler turns out to be a “Hitler,” whose promised “thousand-year reich” proved to be a disastrous 12 years of misrule. ... A very prominent political “prophet” of our present century was the League of Nations, formed in 1919. It foretold a world of lasting peace. But World War II unceremoniously dumped it into a pit of inactivity." Awake! 1981 Dec 8 p.14


The irony is Watchtower Society calling other religious or political organizations false prophets but does all types of back flips to escape their false prophecies tag for 1914 as the year for the end of the world, 1925 was the year earthly resurrection will start, etc. You now even deny much of the foundation of your history by downplaying your founder, Pastor Russell and Judge Rutherford when back in his days. He, false prophet Russell was referred to as your Prophet.

"This was the test - the coming down of fire; and the fulfillment exactly on time has proved that Pastor Russell was one of God's great reformers and prophets." Watchtower 1919 Oct 1 p.297
"For an answer, people should listen to the plain preaching by the remnant prefigured by Jeremiah, for these preach to men the present-day fulfillment of Jeremiah's prophecies. Who made them a prophet to speak with the authority that they claim? Well, who made Jeremiah a prophet?" Watchtower 1959 Jan 15 pp.39-41
"Those who do not read can hear, for God has on earth today a prophetlike organization, just as he did in the days of the early Christian congregation." Watchtower 1964 Oct 1 p.601
Watchtower describes itself as the "modern-day" prophet.

"So, does Jehovah have a prophet to help them, to warn them of dangers and to declare things to come?
IDENTIFYING THE "PROPHET"
These questions can be answered in the affirmative. Who is this prophet?
... This "prophet" was not one man, but was a body of men and women. It was the small group of footstep followers of Jesus Christ, known at that time as International Bible Students. Today they are known as Jehovah's Christian witnesses.
... Of course, it is easy to say that this group acts as a "prophet" of God. It is another thing to prove it. The only way that this can be done is to review the record. Thus this group of anointed followers of Jesus Christ, doing a work in Christendom paralleling Ezekiel's work among the Jews, were manifestly the modern-day Ezekiel, the "prophet" commissioned by Jehovah to declare the good news of God's Messianic kingdom and to give warning to Christendom." Watchtower 1972 Apr 1 pp.197-199 'They Shall Know that a Prophet Was Among Them'


I am not yet done with addressing all your points but this post is becoming a little longer. Let me continue with a new post.

shadeyinka:

I didn't tell you I was a Moslem. I only answered you using their usual excuses

I just noticed the smartness of what you did.

Thanks for that. I mistakenly thought you were a Muslim. So sorry.

PervertProphet:


The ramblings of an Olodo.

The true Messiah in the first century arrived on the continent of Africa in Egypt thousand of years before even the Europeans even remotely heard of Christianity meaning Africans first encountered the true Messiah while the Europeans were still Druid Witches and Wizards. The type you watch in Harry Potter films.

The true significance of the Messiah is not in what Skin colour he had. The true significance lies in the fact that all major religions agree that He lived the kind of life not ordinary for a man. Even Islam agrees that He was Faultless unlike Muhammad that sinned. Islam said He spoke from the Cradle unlike no other. Islam called Him Al-Masih for no explainable reason as no other prophet of the Jews that they copied was called Messiah by them.

Jesus is the English of Yeshua which is Iesous(Greek) just like Ayo is the Yoruba of Blessing. Our Forefathers never wrote in Western typical characters. All our African languages borrowed the White man type of letter characterization. Show me proof of any African language writing our languages in Western styled letter characters like J, É, B, GB, etc before the 11th Century. Open any Yoruba or Igbo Bible. The Yoruba Bible renders the Word, Jesus as Jesu Kristi. You want to tell me Yoruba men before the 11th Century wrote in Western styled characterization like Jesus before then?

Clown. There were Orthodox Ethiopian and Egyptian (African) Churches before the Catholic Church so the Masonic rubbish you wrote up there is no name giver of the word, Jesus. Clown, you think you are dealing with some illiterate. Even the Latin alphabet has only 23 letters and the letter J is one of the letter missing in the Latin alphabet that is why in the Latin. The word Jesus is written as lesus. You can confirm from the Latin Vulgate Bibles if you have access to one so you can't even claim the White Masonic guys did all the hocus pocus you wrote.

I suggest you go read more instead of coming here with incorrect nonsensical "facts" that you watched on some Black Hebrew Israelites, Nation of Islam or Black Kemetic Youtube channel. You will be buried here with facts.

Bible deformers ko! Bible deformers ni!
Which Bible is "undeformed"? Let us start with that.

Ethiopia is one country in Africa. Most Africans practise Christianity derived from Europeans, they don't practise orthodox Christianity.

Or do you accept the Coptic Bible?