emmnprince:


You say Isa Pantami past statements a propaganda! Even Pantami and those in the Presidency who are standing by him never denied it. They plead for forgiveness and mercy! I heard he has repented! Has he truly repented? You're here looking for proof from me. Issokay!

In my previous comments I said they have their flaws and are not 100% correct! What they did wasn't correct and some of their prayer points are not properly said. They should be condemned for it! But I made you to see something clear from their statements:

1. Their prayer points is not carried out in a physical manner in the form of sending people to kill or maim Muslims. They leave it to God to answer and God do as He pleases with their prayers.

2. Christians and those who are not sincere with their faith don't have the mindset to physically kill or maim their fellow man it is not Jesus, their Master's, way and He never instructed them to do so, but the opposite is Islam and her ardent followers who are guided by the Qur'an to do so. This we have seen played out in the world. Except you don't want to kiss the truth. Mind you, the Qur'an and writings of Islamic scholars and leaders of Old has quotations to support their cause.

You're still silent about the reckless killings perpetrated by these terror group under the banner of Islam in which some will shout “Allahu Akbar” before they spill blood through slaughtering or . . . This you have kept mute.

Empiree:

emmnprince:


Let’s allow this matter to rest.

No matter how you try to defend this man whose ideologies and statements indicted him, the fact still remains;

• his extremist religious views has landed him where he is, and shouldn't have been appointed into a sensitive position he is if not for sentiments.

• he's under the terrorist watchlist of UK. The reasons best known to you and concerned Nigerians.

• the ruthless killings of these terrorist groups under the banner of Islam is glaring. Except you want to remain a hypocrite!

drakeli:


I can’t believe it that Buhari can sacrifice the integrity of the whole country and millions of Nigerian in the global community to save the ass of an individual Patami. How will other countries respect Nigeria

MANNAABBQGRILLS:

Alright boss. Hope u no be Fulani sha?

Seun:

I also believe that Islam can grow and mature, but it will not be as easy as it was for Christianity because of one crucial difference between Christianity and Islam: the founders and first believers of Christianity were pacifists, but the founders and first believers of Islam were warriors. This makes It easy to use the Bible to convince people to be peaceful, but it’s more difficult to use the Quran and Hadith to convince a Muslim to be peaceful. More difficult, but absolutely necessary.

teemy:


Those teachers must have been a unique breed. Lol

One thing parents should know is that once you are caught lying, all your words would thereafter have to pass through a sieve before the child trusts it as trust would have been lost.

As for the naming thing, seems a lot of religions do that name thing in hope of making conversions. In Saudi, a Joseph has lower chances of opportunities compared to a Yusuf. The same way a missionary school might want to do the same within its walls. (We all know Muslims will have a bias with education from a Christian western nation and as such the Christians would mostly be educated first during our parents' era). I don't believe Muslims were 'deprived' of education as they could easily have started Muslim mission schools as well and we can see that happening now. It would be similar to the Islamic banking of Jaiz bank and incorrect for Christians to say they were being deprived of loans when due to bias they didn't even approach the bank in the first place.

A lot of mistrust exists here and there and we can keep at it for as long as we wish it continues. Politicians made us realize we are us, and they are them. If we don't break off a lot of our mentality from what religious piece has been used to divide us, we will wallow in it, our children will and so will our world. Guess it will be a better place then?

@ PervertProphet "If you change the way you look at things, the things you look at change" - Wayne Dyer

Empiree:
and you think I needed your sermons?. And these are what?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9hPorlAAkcg


https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=1389036078130903&id=100010735713607&sfnsn=mo



https://www.facebook.com/watch/?v=152043643523782

Empiree Mentor. Another Sick Raisin Head as Qāsim a.k.a Muhammad will refer to you.




"Allah Akbar" is the easiest phytas anyone can say and you just said it too. Does it make you muslim?. No. So are those people too.



More comments on Pantami audio

Qudsi:


@Temy

PervertProphet for me speaks the truth.

Everyone inclusive of Muslims are currently on Baba Ijesha's neck as regards defiling little girls but crazy thing is that these Muslims venerate a fifty years plus mentally unstable man who defiled little girls still playing with dolls. They go as far as comparing this crazy Pedophile to someone like Jesus.

Jesus and Muhammad are the two with the most influence in this present world and if temy is comfortable with the legacy of this man who pales in comparison to Jesus then I take it you are a very dirty Person whose sense of morality is deeply eroded. If you can't sense the deviancy of Muhammad and you are working so hard to throw some light on the dark evil life of Muhammad. I am not shocked. At least sick individuals like Empiree already considered this sick Muhammad as some "good fellow" while they hypocritically blast Baba Ijesha.

Quick question. If Jesus Christ and Muhammad both visited your house. Which of them will you be comfortable with leaving your six(6)year old daughter or niece with


See one of Empiree's Mentor. A sick Raisin Head as Qāsim a.k.a Muhammad referred to blacks.

teemy:


[s]While in the quest of maintaining morals or a safe environment, we should be careful of branding innocents with the same name as evil men.

A while ago, the Germans were the evil of the world. Today, every advanced nation associates with them. That is war for you. However, it would be wrong to have the current set of germans pay for the crimes of their forebears especially when they were not born when those crimes were committed.

My point is that while evil men do evil things, it would be wrong to label those who are linked with them as evil by association just when they have not displayed mentioned. Else, every relative of those in prisons should be excommunicated as well. It would be wrong to do that.

Evil man --- evil deeds
Good man --- good deeds

Good man friend of Evil man != Evil man

Good and Evil people abound on all sides of any divide we use. Treat each individual based on how he is.

Cheers[/s]

Qudsi:



Quick question. If Jesus Christ and Muhammad both visited your house. Which of them will you be comfortable with leaving your six(6)year old daughter or niece with

teemy:


That is a no-brainer. Certainly, not the one that will elope with the girl and I would hear thereafter that she has been married off to him by an Emir in the Northern part of the country.

Qudsi:


Thank you. That's all I want to hear.

Matthew 12:37.

The Words of Jesus to you.

Amplified Bible
For by your words [reflecting your spiritual condition] you will be justified and acquitted of the guilt of sin; and by your words [rejecting Me] you will be condemned and sentenced.

If you with that sense of humanity understand the dangers and how terrible it is leaving your Six year daughter or niece with the Muhammad character but your words on the other hand make a great effort to continue to make sure that many Muslims who take this evil pervert of a man, Muhammad as some Prophet. I see how loving you are towards them. What wickedness and Hatred you have for Muslims to see them continue on a path of modeling after a man, Muhammad that is not even fit to be a model to animals by his words and deeds of life.

By your own words. You justify what hatred and wickedness you have towards these Muslims as you do all possible within your power to make sure that they never come to Christ by trying to illogically rationalize Jesus and Muhammad as the same knowing that Muhammad's life can never be compared in deeds to that of Jesus Christ. You stand as a stumbling block to these Muslims.

Will you see your mother falling into fire and you would urge her on? Or you would do all in your possible power to get her out even if you scream at her knowing that the scream represents love and an urgency in your heart to get her out.

By your words you will be condemned of standing in the way of these Muslims who would have come to Jesus Christ but "fanciful english buy lacking no real content" kept them out of the way of life. The Blood of these Muslims will then be on your head.

If your six year old daughter or niece can not be left alone with Muhammad if he were to be alive now then why do you want Muhammad to continue to be a role model for 1.6 billion Muslims today?

teemy:


That is a no-brainer. Certainly, not the one that will elope with the girl and I would hear thereafter that she has been married off to him by an Emir in the Northern part of the country.

Qudsi:


...

If your six year old daughter or niece can not be left alone with Muhammad if he were to be alive now then why do you want Muhammad to continue to be a role model for 1.6 billion Muslims today?

teemy:


[s]The Egyptians that had their kids massacred would not see Moses as a good character. Neither will the Canaanites that got wiped out just because they were branded 'sinners' on the exodus trip of Israel see either Moses or Joshua in any good light. It was genocide, pure and simple[/s].

teemy:

[s]Today, Christians promote those two men. Does that make it right that Christians should be hated by the descendants of survivors of those carnage events[/s]?

teemy:


[[s]b]Jn 2: 15Making a whip of cords, he drove all of them out of the temple, both the sheep and the cattle. He also poured out the coins of the money-changers and overturned their tables.[/b]
The above quote shows a depiction of violence and if it is tried today, the person would be arrested for assault and destruction of property. Some would justify it under religious bias but those sellers would not have 'bought' space without the consent of an authority figure which we know happened to be the Pharisee and Sadducee leaders. If Jesus had a grouse with the disturbance of the noise of the animals (I can understand that), the right way was to take it up with those authority figures instead of going by it the violent way.

Today, we see acts of religious extremists who want others to do their bidding without going by the law of the land but rather through acts of violence fulfill their wishes. [/s]

teemy:

For me, I only see good men, evil men. Each defined by his/her actions. Most Holy scriptures contain activities that would in the enlightened world of today be condemned. We all have to mature above sentiments and learn to shift the wheat from the chaff, the wheat from the chaff. We have to learn to live and let live.

teemy:

I have met nice Muslims and wonderful Christians. I have also met horrible Christians and bad Muslims. At the end, it is just simply a matter of a good man being good and a bad man being evil. Once we all get that light, we will understand that we only need hold someone responsible for his own actions and not the actions of people associated to them. It would be counter productive when the good ones are also labelled bad when we could simply have encouraged the good ones to find the right words to convert the bad to good.

teemy:

Wishing you well - Teemy

teemy:




[s]But whom of those two kidnapped a girl to marry? You simply picked on the one you were biased against and determined he was the one. He married someone we are enlightened today as being underage. More on child marriage, it was the accepted thing even in European culture to marry a girl of age 14. This has stopped today because of more knowledge and exposure.

Christians kidnapped Muslim children in the North, brought them down south, and gave them Christian names.
Muslims kidnapped Christian children and married them off.

It is still a matter of evil people doing evil things that should be condemned by all. Each sinner to his/her own sin.

From my knowledge of things, anybody can do anything be it good or evil. We simply need to protect ourselves from being on the receiving end of their bad deeds.
[/s]
Cheers

teemy:




But whom of those two kidnapped a girl to marry? You simply picked on the one you were biased against and determined he was the one. He married someone we are enlightened today as being underage. More on child marriage, it was the accepted thing even in European culture to marry a girl of age 14. This has stopped today because of more knowledge and exposure.

Christians kidnapped Muslim children in the North, brought them down south, and gave them Christian names.
Muslims kidnapped Christian children and married them off.

It is still a matter of evil people doing evil things that should be condemned by all. Each sinner to his/her own sin.

From my knowledge of things, anybody can do anything be it good or evil. We simply need to protect ourselves from being on the receiving end of their bad deeds.

Cheers

teemy:
@Qudsi

Sweetheart, do you love Muslims?

Qudsi:


Such a blatant liar...

A disgusting disguised Mohemmadian and Headslamming taqiyyist.


Christians kidnap Muslims and bring them to the South.

Another Lai Mohammed in the making gearing up to do the work of Satan: lies upon lies.

teemy:


Don't be so quick to disprove my words. It was a front page topic here on nairaland. The kids were kidnapped and taken to the southeast. Some were found and returned back to their parents.

Qudsi:


Who do you think between the both of us love the Muslims?

I screaming to the Muslims to avoid the pit as been lead blindly by Muhammad who was not even a good character model to himself.

Or you urging them on to never accept Jesus Christ as they can be justified in going down to the pit with a blind descipable character like Muhammad.

Which of us really loves the Muslims?


I checked your fiverr reviews and perfectly saw the face and heart nature of the person I am dealing with. If you can't be sincere with the priceless souls of people created by Jesus whom you want mislead then I am no more shocked you apply same tactics to your business.

Qudsi:


You know the truth. If you actually believe that Igbo man will kidnap a Northerner Muslim and take the person to the East then I believe what this Indian said about your manipulative and basically greedy ways as regards business.

You and I know very well that the Bad igbo guys will rather kidnap their fellow rich igbo men for money. They will never try kidnapping a Northern Muslim girl. To what gain. You and know that is a clear lie by the northern islamic machine against the Igbo people.

Well, a look at some of your fiverr reviews has confirmed what I actually thought of you before. A Spiritual blind and financial manipulator.

teemy:

...

Yes, as to my fiverr review, we can still come to your selectiveness of points and trying to eliminate others to make your statements look good. Else, you would have added my response to the client as well. That itself might not even be necessary as the client's own words displayed that I was trying to bill him extra 'for each and every small things'. He too should be ready to pay for each and every small thing as every request will cost time and time na money. I don't do free work (well I do give out free stuff to people here once in a while). If in place where the the goal is to pay for services, trust me, I will bill for every single line of code requested. One more thing, that same client came back for a third (which I did) and then a forth (which I had other engagements to do and had to refer him search for other coders. I am not the only coder on fiverr). He couldn't write a review on that third one as it would betray his own words.

...

Qudsi:


You know the truth. If you actually believe that Igbo man will kidnap a Northerner Muslim and take the person to the East then I believe what this Indian said about your manipulative and basically greedy ways as regards business.

You and I know very well that the Bad igbo guys will rather kidnap their fellow rich igbo men for money. They will never try kidnapping a Northern Muslim girl. To what gain. You and know that is a clear lie by the northern islamic machine against the Igbo people.

Well, a look at some of your fiverr reviews has confirmed what I actually thought of you before. A Spiritual blind and financial manipulator.

JosEast:

In recent years, children from Kano State were kidnapped and sold to willing buyers in the southern part of the country. Some of the victims who were rescued by the police shared their experiences when they were reunited with their families.

This week, seven more children purportedly abducted from Kano and sold to other parts of the country were uncovered. The first nine children were found in October 2019.

There have been several hues and cries about children missing from the state; hence several pressure groups were set up to ensure their return.

Finally, government set up a commission mandated to ensure the safe return of all the missing children in the state.

The chairman of Kano Missing Children Forum, Comrade Ismail Ibrahim Mohammed, said from their available records, no fewer than 118 children were still missing.

“We got the first set of children after we contributed money to sponsor the police.

“They went and got 10 back; but they told us that they could have done more if they had stayed longer in the areas they visited because they believed many missing children were still there.

“Our plea to the government is to provide funds to that police team to revisit the area, but nothing is being done.

“We have reached out to the National Assembly, but nothing is happening about our case. And northern elders are still silent.

“Concerned stakeholders must rise to ensure the return of other children still missing,’’ he said.

He said five of the seven children in the second batch had since been identified by their parents.

He revealed that the team was at two orphanage homes in Anambra State, precisely in Onitsha, Awka and Ogidi.

“We didn’t come with the children; we took their pictures and sent to our members, and five of them have so far been identified.

“They were handed over by the state commissioner of police, who also told us that 12 children were taken by the Gombe State Government, out of which four have so far been reunited with their parents.

“We shall move to Gombe to ascertain if the remaining 8 are ours. As I am talking to you, we found that some children are also in Port Harcourt,’’ he added.

The commissioner for information in Kano State, Muhammad Garba, said government was concerned about the situation and would do everything possible to reunite the children with their biological parents.

Mothers’ protest

Recently, some mothers in Kano State staged a protest, accusing the committee set up by the government of not doing enough on the case.

During the protest, the spokesperson of the mothers, Zainab Abdullahi Giginyu had said, “We are disturbed over the incident.

“Over the years, we have been complaining, but the government has remained adamant over our plight.

“We want them to do the needful and return our children.’’

She said most of the children were from Hotoro, Kawo, Yankaba and Gama areas of the state.

Our correspondent learnt that some of the children who were recently recovered in the first batch and reunited with their parents were facing stigmatisation, discrimination and difficulty in assimilation since their return to Kano a year after their abduction.

It was said that they have been disconnected from northern tradition, and some of them had already adopted Igbo names and could barely speak Hausa language.

Some of the children admitted that others still laugh at them in school and avoid them.

Umar Faruk, who spent five years with his foster parents in Amanbra State said, “Even though I now speak Hausa, my intonation makes them laugh at me. Sometimes they don’t want to play and associate with me.

“They see me as a Christian and don’t want to associate with me, but with time, it began to change.

“I eat tuwo (local delicacy) now and feel free with people.’’

The now 12-year-old Faruk, who had adopted Onyedika Ogbodo as his name, said one Paul took him to Onitsha after another one called Emma got him cheese balls before Aunty Ebere came and took him.

When he returned last year, Faruk could not recall the name of his biological father nor identify other relatives.

He was in Primary Four in Onitsha before he was rescued.

An alien

For Umar’s father, Ibrahim Salisu, from the beginning, many people saw his son as an alien and didn’t want to associate with him.

“It was a difficult period for us. He doesn’t understand the culture and norms of the people, a situation that makes many people avoid him.

“For now, one major issue has to do with our ability to sustain the lifestyle he was introduced to. We are poor and can’t seem to meet up. But we are trying to do our best,’’ he said.

Aisha Muhammad, another rescued child said, “Children have now stopped laughing at me; and I am fast forgetting the Igbo language.

“It was difficult in the beginning because I didn’t have friends or people wanting to associate with me.

“I became a reference point, for whatever reasons.’’

Aisha, who just returned from an Islamiyya school in the evening when our correspondent visited her house said, “I have a new life and don’t seem to recollect what happened.

“I have forgotten their ways of life and moved on.’’

For her father, Muahmmad Yankaba, “From the beginning of last year when we received her from the authorities, it was very difficult for her to mix up. We intensified prayers, and gradually, she began to associate freely.

“Her siblings also helped out a lot.’’

Usman Mohammed, another rescued boy and the first that blew the lid when security operatives stormed their school in Amanbra said, “I have new friends now and happy to be back with my family ‘’

Our correspondent gathered that when the security operatives from Kano stormed their school, Mohammad was heard reciting verses from the Quran; hence their attention was drawn and they started making enquiries.

Subsequently, he stood up and said his name was Usman from Sauna community in Kano.

The teacher was arrested immediately, after which six others were uncovered from the school.

Usman’s father, Mohammad Ali said, “It was a very difficult situation, but thank God we got them back. He was not himself.

“He went through serious health challenges upon his return, but gradually, his senses began to return and he is now fully integrated into the family and community.’’



The suspects

Already, eight suspects have been arrested in connection with the alleged kidnapping and trafficking of the children.

They are facing trial in two different courts. In one of the cases, the prime suspect, Paul Onwe, has owned up to 38 charges against him and set for judgement.

Onwe and his wife, Mercy, were arrested in the process of moving one of their victims, Haruna Sagir Bako to Onitsha on September 11, 2019.

He was abducted on his way home from an Islamiyya school at Yankaba Quarters in Kano metropolis.

Others arrested include Emmanuel Igwe, Ebere Ogbodo, Louisa Duru and Monica Orachaa.

During interrogation, Onwe confessed to have conspired with others to kidnap various children from areas like Sauna, Kwanar Jaba, Kawo, Hotoro, Yankaba and Dakata, all within the Kano metropolis.

When he was paraded last year, Onwe disclosed that he had realised over N2million from the illicit business and moved seven children to Anambra State within five years.

He said he earned N200,000 on each child.

Onwe, who hails from Ebonyi State and had lived in Kano since 1998 as an artisan, added that Emmanuel Igwe, one of the suspects paraded by the police, introduced him to kidnapping.

He said, “Igwe told me that Madam Ebere Ogbodo, who was a restaurateur, needed a child because she didn’t have any.

“Subsequently, I told my madam and she started searching. The children I kidnapped are seven in number.

“For the first one, who was two years old then, she gave me N150,000. I took that one from Brigade, Kwanar Jaba side.’’

He said Madam Ebere paid N200,000 for subsequent supplies.

Also, Ebere Ogbodo, an alleged buyer, said that Emmanuel Igwe introduced her to Onwe, who was based in Kano.

She said Igwe told her that his friend’s wife worked in a motherless babies’ home; hence she accepted the supplies from them.

She added that she bought the kids to raise them because she had no child of her own.

“I am a childless woman from Enugu State.

“I was crying because my husband sent me out when I met Emma and I told him about my problem, he said he had a brother whose wife was working in a motherless babies’ home.

“He connected Paul with me and he told me that the children were brought from a motherless babies’ home.

“I put them in school. I bought two of them at N200,000,” Mrs Ogbodo confessed.
https://dailytrust.com/our-peers-avoiding-us-kano-kids-rescued-from-south

teemy:


If you infer you love Muslims, I recommend you read the open letter written to the Pope "A Common Word Between Us and You". It is a lovely read that if applied to our world, it would indeed be a paradise on earth.

teemy:

But the, Muslims have their own version of hell they would wish you to avoid. Will you avoid the Christian hell alone? You have to realize everyone opines differently and if you attack on their beliefs, it won't be hard to label you an antagonist and then, how will you even get your message across to them? There has to be a common ground you can stand on to lay your points such as Paul's words in Acts 17:28 For in him we live and move and have our being.' As some of your own poets have said, 'We are his offspring.'.

teemy:

[s]If I was to start with "At the end, it all came down to the Rasengan vs the Chidori. An arm they both lost as Sauke lost the will to continue a needless fight and gave it up to the future Hokage". It would look weird to you unless you had followed up on the Naruto series. If you don't understand a people and their ways, it is good to learn why they act the way they do. Get a Qoran in English version and do your own research on the Islamic way of life before you pitch all their tenets as bad. Maybe with time, you can find that middle ground and you can have an intellectual discuss rather than trying to antagonize them with your pictures. Trust me, they don't work, you will only get a rejective response[/s].

teemy:

[s]Over two decades ago, I was once like you and so I am right now smiling at you - my old self. I then used to think Arabic was the writing of evil. Don't laugh, I knew no better. That was what I kuku was told. In the world of today, I would have researched and gotten my own truths. This is why I recommend you getting that Qoran[/s].

teemy:


It might not be nice hearing it but it is the truth. This is the link. https://www.nairaland.com/6367616/kano-kids-rescued-south-say#98141753

drakeli:


I can’t believe it that Buhari can sacrifice the integrity of the whole country and millions of Nigerian in the global community to save the ass of an individual Patami. How will other countries respect Nigeria