Blackfriday:
I seriously marvel at the little boy ignorance. This Telcos do this and they have the backing of the law for it, it's no news but they can never think of releasing such documents (cos it's a breach of privacy agreement they sigh on to), unless it concern national security even at that, it will take the highest law authority to issue a subpoena for it to be gotten but do all of this Telcos have record of your conversations?.......YES.

They should ask themselves, how all this loan companies in Nigeria have all the information about them once you sign on to use their service, from your contacts list, to your call logs, to your messages....once you agree to their T&C's, your informations are immediately synchronized with the telephone number you use in making the loan application.

design106:

Here's the thing. Authorizing the release of the voice notes will confirm 2 things.
1. That Network Providers actually record private call sessions between paying customers without their permission.
2. Make everyone realize that there's nothing like privacy when it comes to the network providers who we trust with our funds and data.

Maybe they're both the same thing but you get the point.
Look for the right and legal means to get your facts else you'll just be the same as the evil people who are fighting to keep this matter silenced.

Best of luck though.

Fantasial:



They are permitted by law to keep recorded conversation for about 5 years or so.

donaldwhal:
But there were terms and conditions you didn’t border to read, which you just accepted. Part of the conditions was that they can store your data in whatever forms they like and use the data for certain things.
Many a time, we all click on ACCEPT when signing up for app or downloading a software or registering on a website. We never bordered to read thru those long and tiny terms and conditions. So it would be tough to sue network providers that they are using your data for what you didn’t ask them to use it for.

WaffenSS:
This hundeyin creep is a fool.

Who ever told him any Telco records phone calls?

He's calling into question his own over-inflated sense of intelligence.

LeJeun3:


Sometimes it’s okay to talk anyhow…..

However, lemme ask you. Have you ever read terms and conditions when buying a SIM card, or registering on any network……

Have you called the customer service line and heard ‘’ this call may be recorded for training purposes”, did you end the call after hearing that?!

Take the networks to court ��

kode12:



Telecoms providers keep records of call log, not the actual calls. So there's a log of who initiated the call, the numbers called, the duration and location of both parties. It is technically infeasible to keep an audio record of the audio conversations of all customers. An exception to this would be where an individual was under prior investigation, hence being monitored more closely.
Akpabio or Pantami cannot simply request call records be released. It'd require a court order issued by a judge. But make no mistakes, privacy is an illusion. Nothing is private.

doyin01:
ignorance is a disease....calls made are automatically saved on the servers of telecom providers...that is done worldwide...how did you think bill Cosby phone conversations was collected from the service providers which was used as an evidence to nail him during the rape saga??the only fact is that it is illegal for the network providers to release the phone conversations without a court order....

Missyajoke:


Do you have sense at all, they killed an innocent girl and you keep been bitchy about it. May such befall your close family relatives. Those people are paying medias heavily to cover up this case. You don't have conscience at all.

Kishkosh:

Dude, do you read your T&Cs when you get new sim?
Do you know what "third-party doctrine" is? . Anyways, there's nothing new in network providers recording customers calls

Gordson:

You are a bigger fool if you think they don't have it.

Xpol:
Thanks boss ignorance is really a disease, it makes the eyes wide opened without seeing anything and it also suppresses the ability of the brain full functionality. Only God is omniscience. A normal human should be ready to learn new things.being used to blind argument also Kills the brain.
WaffenSS peace bro

Blackfriday:
I seriously marvel at the little boy ignorance. This Telcos do this and they have the backing of the law for it, it's no news but they can never think of releasing such documents (cos it's a breach of privacy agreement they sigh on to), unless it concern national security even at that, it will take the highest law authority to issue a subpoena for it to be gotten but do all of this Telcos have record of your conversations?.......YES.

They should ask themselves, how all this loan companies in Nigeria have all the information about them once you sign on to use their service, from your contacts list, to your call logs, to your messages....once you agree to their T&C's, your informations are immediately synchronized with the telephone number you use in making the loan application.

WaffenSS:


You and the person you're quoting are just silly

design106:


I do like Nairaland for things like this. They Challenge you to be less ignorant about things.
The claim you made about Bill Cosby is false. Just spent some minutes reading up on his trial.
The calls were recorded by the Gianna Constand who he was on the phone with. She recorded the second call and not the first one he made to her. And this was allowed in Court because The Canadian Town Ontario which she was in actually allows recordings as long as there was consent from one party which was Gianna in this case.

If it was recorded in a 2 party consent state, that recording would have been thrown out in Court.

Now, tell me something else I'm Ignorant about and stop using made up stories to buttress your point.

doyin01:
are you okay at all??truly you are ignorant...so you think bill cosby only had one trials??like in your myopic mind you think gianna constand case is the only one bill cosby had gone through before??olodo

design106:


I have tried to be respectful in this but you no want get sense.
Just link me to one of them. Just send me one link.

You've only talked since without backing them up.
Really show me the Olodo in this conversation

WaffenSS:


You either have no idea what a database is, or you're deluded about people's rights to privacy.

doyin01:
start from here,it will lead you to several links...[url]https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bill_Cosby_sexual_assault_cases#:~:text=Cosby's%20first%20trial%20in%20June,cost%20of%20the%20prosecution%2C%20%2443%2C611.[/url]

On September 16, O'Neill ruled that the recorded call between Constand's mother and Cosby would be allowed to be played in court. In his ruling he said that since the call was recorded in Canada, which deems recordings lawful with consent from only one party, it would be admissible.

WaffenSS:


You're dumb too.

Your loan companies get your information directly from your phone. That's why when you install their apps, you're asked to give those apps permission to read your sms, get your location, access your contacts, etc. You willingly give them access to your information by granting those permissions.

You claim that telcos are backed by law to record conversations. Kindly tell us what law that is, since all laws in Nigeria are public knowledge.

There's even regulation against telcos giving out your phone number to telemarketers in order to protect your privacy, yet you idiots keep deluding yourselves that telcos record calls.

Ask yourself this:

What would ot mean for your country's national security if private entities and foreign businesses have access to all calls made by citizens, including government and security agents.

You think anyone with half a brain will even consider using their phone to conduct their personal, business, medical affairs knowing fully well that MTN or Airtel agents can just eavesdrop or playback recordings of the conversation?

Seriously, you people are either innately and inherently demented, or you're just slowly losing your brain power. Either way, you're all very silly and ignorant.

Blackfriday:
Honestly I love how macho you feel, hope you exhibit this traits in real life though.

Asked you a question, which you haven't answered.

Can a Telco provide a transcript of recorded conversation of it's customer, if subpoenaed for it?

Proton99:


You need not attack me anon. This is close to my line of work and it was utilized to resolve a classified issue that I'm not sure will reach the media anytime in the near future.

My friend was transferred from the Effccc unit and the mole retired.

Damn privacy. Don't be naive about it anon. As long as you use the tech, forget your privacy. The winning move is not to play the game at all.

WaffenSS:


They cannot provide any transcript because they do not have it, they do not have it because they don't have access to conversations, nor do they record same.

Every single citizen is entitled to his privacy backed by law. Have you not heard about the endless furor surrounding social media companies and the privacy of users? Have you not heard about the running battle between the FBI and Apple about unlocking phones of criminals and apple insisting on the privacy rights of the phone owners backed by law.

I asked you before and I'll ask you again:

What kind of society will allow private foreign companies to tap into the private and intimate conversations of people and record same?

Xpol:
lol e pain am. Please don’t give yourself hypertension oh because I’m just laughing at you here ni o

design106:

Here's the thing. Authorizing the release of the voice notes will confirm 2 things.
1. That Network Providers actually record private call sessions between paying customers without their permission.
2. Make everyone realize that there's nothing like privacy when it comes to the network providers who we trust with our funds and data.

Maybe they're both the same thing but you get the point.
Look for the right and legal means to get your facts else you'll just be the same as the evil people who are fighting to keep this matter silenced.

Best of luck though.

WaffenSS:


The more you talk, the more moronic you fortunately come across, which serves to reduce my workload of schooling fools.

I know your type, those online irritants who always claim to be close to the subject of the argument without a shred of proof.

You have no frickin idea who I is, nor what I do, so leave your hallucinations out of this and focus on logic.

No damn telecommunications company can listen to your conversation because first of all your calls are digital and encrypted. Second no laws allow telcos to listen in or record you, but there are laws that protect your privacy.

Security agencies can only have access to call logs such as calling and receiving parties, duration, cell towers and base stations involved, etc. But not the actual call. The only type of message recorded are voice mails, and even those are not accessible to the telecom provider as they're protected and encrypted.

I dare anyone in this forum to provide proof contrary to above.

design106:


Learn to read well Oga.
Using a red font won't make you sound smarter.

When you Call Customer care, they notify you that it will be recorded. That's because you're calling them.
What's their business with Calls made from one Customer to another?

And where did I say anyone should take them to court?
Nonsense.

Aeg0n:


While it is known to very few, all the activities carried out on your SIM are being logged from calls to texts and data but only the top executives have the clearance to it.
Yet, the privacy policy binds them to have access to it except it is crucial to an investigation and can only be released by the courts authorization.

Those in telecommunications would agree that even a mobile phone can be tracked using a cell tower (Mast)

LeJeun3:




Very convenient to show your stupidity in public....

First you ignored the terms and conditions I mention and jumped to call center, have you read the terms of using a line with any of the networks??

Since you have selective blindness, the color is brown and not red.

WaffenSS:


Your father is the biggest fool for spawning you

Gordson:

Your father is a useless man who didn't know he should have used a condom to avoid bringing a disaster (you) into this world.