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Re: The Banner On A Ship Carrying Jewish Refugees To Palestine In 1947 by biafranrealson: 5:22pm On May 16, 2021
the same thing fulani did to innocent Hausa people , kwara people and still about to do it to Benue people

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Re: The Banner On A Ship Carrying Jewish Refugees To Palestine In 1947 by Babinski: 5:22pm On May 16, 2021
Saifullah01:
The banner reads :
"The Germans destroyed our families please dont you destroy our hopes"

What an irony the situation has turned to today

That is a picture of the illegal immigrant ship Theodor Herzl carrying Jewish refugees which arrived in Haifa, Palestine, in 1947. Note that the British were in control of Mandatory Palestine then and they actually intercepted and deported those refugees and others like them numbering over 50,000 to detention camps in Cyprus between August 1946 and May 1948.

The appeal of hope was more to the British drawing on the Balfour Declaration of 1917 than an appeal to the Palestinians who so hated the Jews that they had anti-zionist and anti-british militant groups. In fact a day after the establishment of the State of Israel in May 1948, they were attacked by the neighbouring Arab countries.

The Jews have strong historical claims to the area which was known in ancient times as the Land of Canaan, than the Palestinians who descended from the Philistines who were themselves part of the Sea Poeple that invaded ancient Egypt and were settled in the southwest part of Canaan (Philistia) by Pharaoh Rameses III around 1200BC. The Ottoman and Muslim rule of the region for 1,400 years after the invasion and conquest of the Levant definitely aided the expansion of the Palestinians who became Muslims and intermarried with Arabs and the exodus of the Jews who would not accept Islam, thereby granting the Palestinians their claimed "ownership" of the region even up to Jerusalem, which is situated on the Judean plateau (heart of the ancient Kingdom of Judah) and which everyone knows historically belonged to the Jews.

Unsurprisingly in a bid to find historical ties to Jerusalem, Yasser Arafat and some Palestinians have tried to claim without any cogent supporting facts, that they are descendants of the Jebusites from whom King David won the city in battle in the ancient times!

It is necessary to know the proper history of things instead of circulating pictures with false analogies to stoke sentiments. Jewish refugees never appealed to Palestinians but to the British.

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Re: The Banner On A Ship Carrying Jewish Refugees To Palestine In 1947 by Nobody: 5:22pm On May 16, 2021
ReubenE:


China vs Taiwan

China vs Philippines

China vs India

China vs Japan
So which of those countries China don invade like the Russians invaded Crimea(Which rightly belong to the Russians).

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Re: The Banner On A Ship Carrying Jewish Refugees To Palestine In 1947 by Tdotbluejays: 5:23pm On May 16, 2021
Bettykeys:
Unfortunately, Christians in Nigeria are not aware that the number of Christians in Israel are not up to 3%

Majority of religion in Isreal is Jews with approximately 75% in population
Always try to back up your post with proof though else people like the poster below would doubt your post. In addition, 78% of the Christians in Israel are Arabs.
candygist:

Where did you get your fact from ?
3%?

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Re: The Banner On A Ship Carrying Jewish Refugees To Palestine In 1947 by Mftivi: 5:24pm On May 16, 2021
gaius01:
Arrrrrrrh

Front page ? To create rancor abi?
I won't say much now, but one of this days I will sit down to cogitate on this conflict between Isreal, Hamas, Palestine, and the rest of the Muslim countries around it.

But come shine come win, I will support Isreal, no matter the causalities Hamas,Gaza will face. This not genocide it's a self defense war, note that !!
God punish you there! Animal!
Re: The Banner On A Ship Carrying Jewish Refugees To Palestine In 1947 by vibre: 5:24pm On May 16, 2021
YungMillionaire:


Dummy. If you are against beans then you are pro-rice. Idiot.
Stop insulting him, he said the absolute truth. Two sides are involved in a conflict, you left one side and refused to criticize them at all but continue to wail endlessly about the activities of the other side. Where your sympathies lies is very obvious.

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Re: The Banner On A Ship Carrying Jewish Refugees To Palestine In 1947 by Gamesmart: 5:24pm On May 16, 2021
richidinho:
Exactly what Fulani terrorist did in Kwara state and every Muslim in Nigeria were happy

You are a cretin. Which every Muslim?
Re: The Banner On A Ship Carrying Jewish Refugees To Palestine In 1947 by Johncuppa(m): 5:25pm On May 16, 2021
ReubenE:
Egypt and and the Arab league is largely responsible for the ordeal the Palestinians are facing...
Those lands were not stolen, majority was acquired through conquest after the Arab-Israeli wars

Israel only expanded its grip on Palestinian lands (formally a British mandate) after the defeat of the Arab coalition in 1948 and 1967.

If the Arab league had allowed reason to prevail when the UN Resolution partitioned that land to Two States (Jewish State of Israel, and Arab State of Palestine) in 1947, perhaps by now, Palestine would have been a thriving country on their own with her own army.

But Egypt and the Arab coalition felt Israel was too small and feeble. Egyptian Generals even boasted that a war with Israel would be like a parade from Cairo to Tel Aviv, that Tel Aviv would be overtaken in two weeks.
They opposed the UN Resolution for Two-State Solution by invading Israel, a battle they lost.
Israel ceased more lands far more than what was given to her by the UN after the war. Can Israel be blamed for doing this? The answer is No, the the land is a war bounty.

Syria lost the control of Golan Heights, Jordan lost the West Bank, Egypt lost the Gaza Strip after the 6 days war (3rd Arab war with Israel) in 1967.
Israel obviously and overwhelmingly won the war and consolidated its grip on Palestine.
Can Israel be blamed for controlling a land they conquered through war? No, cause in war, everything is fair.

The Two-State solution the Palestinians and the Arab League opposed vehemently in 1947, is what they are now clamoring for, but unfortunately, Israel and her western allies especially the US is no longer keen on doing that.

One very important fact to note is that, no country is a good country in the International System of power play.
Palestine would do the same to Israel if she finds herself in that position because international politics is always about National Interest.

Russia has been annexing Ukrainian lands (Crimea, Sevastopol etc), Russia has been making attempts to annex Georgia, Turkey has been muscling Armenia etc. No country is a good country, it is always about self and National Interest.

PS:
The land Israel is occupying is not entirely Palestinian land. They have historical ties to that land right from the time of Egypt and Babylonia.
Israel only ceased Golan Heights, West Bank, East Jerusalem, Gaza Strip after the war with the Arab Coalition
This is too much!
Thanks for the enlightment.

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Re: The Banner On A Ship Carrying Jewish Refugees To Palestine In 1947 by YungMillionaire: 5:25pm On May 16, 2021
Dalil8:
You sound like the real Dummy here.

You are fool. You think using Jesus to support terrorist Zionist makes you cool. Foolish slowpoke!
Re: The Banner On A Ship Carrying Jewish Refugees To Palestine In 1947 by YungMillionaire: 5:27pm On May 16, 2021
vibre:
top insulting him, he said the absolute truth. Two sides are involved in a conflict, you left one side and refused to criticize them at all but continue to wail endlessly about the activities of the other side. Where your sympathies lies is very obvious.

Shut your mouth. You can't read? I support neither. He supports Israel terrorists. Shut your dirty mouth and go and get a brain!
Re: The Banner On A Ship Carrying Jewish Refugees To Palestine In 1947 by Trizyd(m): 5:27pm On May 16, 2021
WaffenSS:


They also don't know that jews consider Christianity a blasphemy against their messiah.


Where is your source on this statement? Are you a Jew?
Stop saying what you don't have an understanding about, it's ignorance.

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Re: The Banner On A Ship Carrying Jewish Refugees To Palestine In 1947 by Dalil8: 5:27pm On May 16, 2021
YungMillionaire:


You are fool. You think using Jesus to support terrorist Zionist makes you cool. Foolish slowpoke!


Allahu akbar..... BOOOOMMMM!!

Now you see why the world detest Muslims?


YungMillionaire:


This mumu thinks I am muslim. Your foolishness is astronomic. grin grin

Israel is a terrorist organization

Oh now you're ashamed to identify as a Muslim? lmaoo cheesy cheesy

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Re: The Banner On A Ship Carrying Jewish Refugees To Palestine In 1947 by collins4real247: 5:28pm On May 16, 2021
ISRAEL is the true land of the Jews people,those terrorist called Palestinians will keep paying so dearly if they keep firing rockets at the Jewish people. God bless ISRAEL!!!!

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Re: The Banner On A Ship Carrying Jewish Refugees To Palestine In 1947 by objobj: 5:28pm On May 16, 2021
Minjim:


So what?
They also read the Bible

What is Bible?
Ignorant. Go and read pls.

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Re: The Banner On A Ship Carrying Jewish Refugees To Palestine In 1947 by Eriokanmi: 5:29pm On May 16, 2021
Bettykeys:
Unfortunately, Christians in Nigeria are not aware that the number of Christians in Israel are not up to 3%

Majority of religion in Isreal is Jews with approximately 75% in population
I'm Christian and so disappointed the way some Christians defend the Jewish populated intrael in this fight. Jewish aren't Christians and the earlier they know this, the better. America is only supporting istrael because the majority of them constitute what is called america today.

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Re: The Banner On A Ship Carrying Jewish Refugees To Palestine In 1947 by Gamesmart: 5:29pm On May 16, 2021
Againstlies:
Is isreal only a Jews country in history, most of the Muslim countries are Jews people conquered by Muslims and forcely converted to Islam.


Where did you get your foolish history lectures from?
Re: The Banner On A Ship Carrying Jewish Refugees To Palestine In 1947 by seunmsg(m): 5:29pm On May 16, 2021
Skyfornia:


Same joy you derives when innocent biafrans are attacked in the east...deal with it

I don’t derive any joy in seeing the killings of innocent Igbo women and children. I condemn any attack on innocent people anywhere in the world.

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Re: The Banner On A Ship Carrying Jewish Refugees To Palestine In 1947 by YungMillionaire: 5:29pm On May 16, 2021
Dalil8:
Allahu akbar..... BOOOOMMMM!!Now you see why the world detest Muslims?

This mumu thinks I am muslim. Your foolishness is astronomic. grin grin

Israel is a terrorist organization
Re: The Banner On A Ship Carrying Jewish Refugees To Palestine In 1947 by vibre: 5:30pm On May 16, 2021
YungMillionaire:


Shut your mouth. You can't read? I support neither. He supports Israel terrorists. Shut your dirty mouth and go and get a brain!
You are the one that doesn't have a brain. If you support neither side then why are you actively criticizing one side and refusing to criticize the other? Better for you to stay out of the discussion completely than to take sides while pretending to be neutral. So shut your own dirty mouth and stop talking nonsense. Bloody hypocrite!!

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Re: The Banner On A Ship Carrying Jewish Refugees To Palestine In 1947 by Nobody: 5:31pm On May 16, 2021
Bettykeys:
Unfortunately, Christians in Nigeria are not aware that the number of Christians in Israel are not up to 3%

Majority of religion in Isreal is Jews with approximately 75% in population
fortunately,most of us christians know.

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Re: The Banner On A Ship Carrying Jewish Refugees To Palestine In 1947 by Nobody: 5:31pm On May 16, 2021
Bettykeys:
Unfortunately, Christians in Nigeria are not aware that the number of Christians in Israel are not up to 3%

Majority of religion in Isreal is Jews with approximately 75% in population
It's Judaism not Jews.
Re: The Banner On A Ship Carrying Jewish Refugees To Palestine In 1947 by Sterope(f): 5:31pm On May 16, 2021
People who cry foul about Fulani herdsmen, colonisation or land grabbers are suddenly making arguments for conquest. Lol. Life can't get more interesting than this.

I don't see you talking about the action that led to that war. If it were your land someone came in and split, would you have sat back and smiled back like a good dog?

They didn't win majority of the land through that war. Since that war they have kept grabbing more lands, more lands and more lands.


PS
Forget the name tag, Palestinian are basically these people you have mentioned. Something about towns expanding and all that. I hope you are also seeking to go back to your ancestral land, the ones your ancestors occupied before moving to wherever you ancestral alnd and forcefully assert your historical right to that land as well.

You are right that the Arab states mad ethe situation worse however what happened should have never happened. You can't go around destabilising lives, lands and people and continue to suppor tyranny when it suits you..







ReubenE:
Egypt and and the Arab league is largely responsible for the ordeal the Palestinians are facing...
Those lands were not stolen, majority was acquired through conquest after the Arab-Israeli wars

Israel only expanded its grip on Palestinian lands (formally a British mandate) after the defeat of the Arab coalition in 1948 and 1967.

If the Arab league had allowed reason to prevail when the UN Resolution partitioned that land to Two States (Jewish State of Israel, and Arab State of Palestine) in 1947, perhaps by now, Palestine would have been a thriving country on their own with her own army.

But Egypt and the Arab coalition felt Israel was too small and feeble. Egyptian Generals even boasted that a war with Israel would be like a parade from Cairo to Tel Aviv, that Tel Aviv would be overtaken in two weeks.
They opposed the UN Resolution for Two-State Solution by invading Israel, a battle they lost.
Israel ceased more lands far more than what was given to her by the UN after the war. Can Israel be blamed for doing this? The answer is No, the the land is a war bounty.

Syria lost the control of Golan Heights, Jordan lost the West Bank, Egypt lost the Gaza Strip after the 6 days war (3rd Arab war with Israel) in 1967.
Israel obviously and overwhelmingly won the war and consolidated its grip on Palestine.
Can Israel be blamed for controlling a land they conquered through war? No, cause in war, everything is fair.

The Two-State solution the Palestinians and the Arab League opposed vehemently in 1947, is what they are now clamoring for, but unfortunately, Israel and her western allies especially the US is no longer keen on doing that.

One very important fact to note is that, no country is a good country in the International System of power play.
Palestine would do the same to Israel if she finds herself in that position because international politics is always about National Interest.

Russia has been annexing Ukrainian lands (Crimea, Sevastopol etc), Russia has been making attempts to annex Georgia, Turkey has been muscling Armenia etc. No country is a good country, it is always about self and National Interest.

PS:
The land Israel is occupying is not entirely Palestinian land. They have historical ties to that land right from the time of Egypt and Babylonia.
Israel only ceased Golan Heights, West Bank, East Jerusalem, Gaza Strip after the war with the Arab Coalition

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Re: The Banner On A Ship Carrying Jewish Refugees To Palestine In 1947 by Kkc3030(m): 5:33pm On May 16, 2021
Saifullah01:
The banner reads :
"The Germans destroyed our families please dont you destroy our hopes"

What an irony the situation has turned to today
Do you know that the territory of the Palestinians that were given to the Israelites were the place that the Israelites were driven from by the Germans and other genocidal countries against Israel in the first place? Where Israel is located now is the place once know as Canaan. So, know how you lay your words.

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Re: The Banner On A Ship Carrying Jewish Refugees To Palestine In 1947 by Elsueno: 5:34pm On May 16, 2021
salykely:


And you failed to tell your audience that under international law there are no territorial gains from war. We are no longer in medieval Europe.

"Under the UN Charter there can lawfully be no territorial gains from war, even by a state acting in self-defense. The response of other states to Israel's occupation shows a virtually unanimous opinion that even if Israel's action was defensive, its retention of the West Bank and Gaza Strip was not...The [UN] General Assembly characterized Israel's occupation of the West Bank and Gaza as a denial of self determination and hence a 'serious and increasing threat to international peace and security.' "John Quigley, "Palestine and Israel: A Challenge to Justice."

Secondly you lied when u said the Arab countries started the 1948 war. Yes Egypt started the 1973 October war in retaliation for the 1948 war. Israeli military historians agree to the fact that the war was stated by Israel.


"The former Commander of the Air Force, General Ezer Weitzman, regarded as a hawk, stated that there was 'no threat of destruction' but that the attack on Egypt, Jordan and Syria was nevertheless justified so that Israel could 'exist according the scale, spirit, and quality she now embodies.'...Menahem Begin had the following remarks to make: 'In June 1967, we again had a choice. The Egyptian Army concentrations in the Sinai approaches do not prove that Nasser was really about to attack us. We must be honest with ourselves. We decided to attack him.' "Noam Chomsky, "The Fateful Triangle."

"I do not think Nasser wanted war. The two divisions he sent to The Sinai would not have been sufficient to launch an offensive war. He knew it and we knew it." Yitzhak Rabin, Israel's Chief of Staff in 1967, in Le Monde, 2/28/68

"Moshe Dayan, the celebrated commander who, as Defense Minister in 1967, gave the order to conquer the Golan...[said] many of the firefights with the Syrians were deliberately provoked by Israel, and the kibbutz residents who pressed the Government to take the Golan Heights did so less for security than for the farmland...[Dayan stated] 'They didn't even try to hide their greed for the land...We would send a tractor to plow some area where it wasn't possible to do anything, in the demilitarized area, and knew in advance that the Syrians would start to shoot. If they didn't shoot, we would tell the tractor to advance further, until in the end the Syrians would get annoyed and shoot.

And then we would use artillery and later the air force also, and that's how it was...The Syrians, on the fourth day of the war, were not a threat to us.'" The New York Times, May 11, 1997

U are trying woh, I am telling you, they know the truth, they know what isreal is doing is wrong. but thier hatred for the northerners will never allow them to accept the truth. One of them in church tried to argue with me on this issue, from his words, he is just happy muslims are being killed

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Re: The Banner On A Ship Carrying Jewish Refugees To Palestine In 1947 by Eriokanmi: 5:35pm On May 16, 2021
Dalil8:



Allahu akbar..... BOOOOMMMM!!

Now you see why the world detest Muslims?



Oh now you're ashamed to identify as a Muslim? lmaoo

I never did. I'm only saying the truth. Do you know Jewish are still expecting messiah till date when Our Lord Jesus the messiah had come in human flesh, delivered the message and left? They never thought or believed a messiah would come in human form or from among them
Re: The Banner On A Ship Carrying Jewish Refugees To Palestine In 1947 by APOSTLECHUMA: 5:36pm On May 16, 2021
Staphylococcus:
Hitler messed up

He had every chance to have wiped out the whole Jews.

Same with Obasanjo and Benjamin Adekunle, they had every resource to have wiped out the present day problem of Nigeria
IS IT POSSIBLE THAT GOD KEPT OBJ ALIFE SO THAT HE WILL SEE THE BIRTH OF A NATION HE FOUGHT SO HARD TO WIPE OUT BUT COULDNT.
Re: The Banner On A Ship Carrying Jewish Refugees To Palestine In 1947 by Nobody: 5:36pm On May 16, 2021
Babinski:


That is a picture of the illegal immigrant ship Theodor Herzl carrying Jewish refugees which arrived in Haifa, Palestine, in 1947. Note that the British were in control of Mandatory Palestine then and they actually intercepted and deported those refugees and others like them numbering over 50,000 to detention camps in Cyprus between August 1946 and May 1948.

The appeal of hope was more to the British drawing on the Balfour Declaration of 1917 than an appeal to the Palestinians who so hated the Jews that they had anti-zionist and anti-british militant groups. In fact a day after the establishment of the State of Israel in May 1948, they were attacked by the neighbouring Arab countries.

The Jews have strong historical claims to the area which was known in ancient times as the Land of Canaan, than the Palestinians who descended from the Philistines who were themselves part of the Sea Poeple that invaded ancient Egypt and were settled in the southwest part of Canaan (Philistia) by Pharaoh Rameses III around 1200BC. The Ottoman and Muslim rule of the region for 1,400 years after the invasion and conquest of the Levant definitely aided the expansion of the Palestinians who became Muslims and intermarried with Arabs and the exodus of the Jews who would not accept Islam, thereby granting the Palestinians their claimed "ownership" of the region even up to Jerusalem, which is situated on the Judean plateau (heart of the ancient Kingdom of Judah) and which everyone knows historically belonged to the Jews.

Unsurprisingly in a bid to find historical ties to Jerusalem, Yasser Arafat and some Palestinians have tried to claim without any cogent supporting facts, that they are descendants of the Jebusites from whom King David won the city in battle in the ancient times!

It is necessary to know the proper history of things instead of circulating pictures with false analogies to stoke sentiments. Jewish refugees never appealed to Palestinians but to the British.
The only way to discredit the fact that the region of isreal historically belongs to the Jews is to discredit one of the oldest know religious/historical document- The bible.
And that is why Muslims never acknowledge it despite the fact that they lifted info from it (christianity came before islam)

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Re: The Banner On A Ship Carrying Jewish Refugees To Palestine In 1947 by malvisguy212: 5:36pm On May 16, 2021
Elbinawi:
I have an important question for the Western barbarians:

"When you brutally slaughtered millions of Jews during the Second World War and converted all their women and girls to your sex slaves, were they not the "Chosen people of God" then?"

It is important to note that during WWII Jews were endangered species in the whole of Europe. They were hunted down like flies and slaughtered. Were they then not the "Chosen people of God" to the Christians of Europe?

I can be contacted on elbinawi@yahoo.com. Thank you!

#ElbinawiTweets
indeed....and God preserved them as promised.....please read the book of hosea , God say he will scatter them and after two days (two thousand years ) he will revive them and Israel will live on my sight.... for 1900 years there was no nation like Israel and in 1947 Israel became a nation

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Re: The Banner On A Ship Carrying Jewish Refugees To Palestine In 1947 by Farki: 5:37pm On May 16, 2021
Onepeople:
what is the difference between Jews and Christians in terms of ideology? All these useless divid and rule you guy's encourage in Nigeria cannot be tolerated outside this country ok.

Jews believe Jesus is a fraud and Christians are heathens who will be punished when the real Messiah arrives. Continue blindly supporting them though.

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Re: The Banner On A Ship Carrying Jewish Refugees To Palestine In 1947 by shadeyinka(m): 5:37pm On May 16, 2021
Bettykeys:
Unfortunately, Christians in Nigeria are not aware that the number of Christians in Israel are not up to 3%

Majority of religion in Isreal is Jews with approximately 75% in population
No!
Most Christians know that Christians are minorities in Israel. Almost half of the population of Israel are at best agnostic and the remaining are Religious Judaism. The number of Muslims in Israel outnumber the number of Christians by 3 to 1.

But, Christians are commanded to pray for the peace of Israel in the bible. Christian eschatology is deeply intertwined with Israel just as the Muslims.

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