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Re: Agitators For Biafra, Yoruba Nation Are Illiterates - Olawepo Hashim by ShadowCracker(m): 1:44pm On May 24, 2021
theTranslator:
Okay sir

You'll remember i told you
Seccesion can never come before restructuring or only chaos will reign

Think
Alright let us see.
Just remember I told you, Yoruba people are tired.
Yoruba nation will be achieved either through diplomacy or war.
Re: Agitators For Biafra, Yoruba Nation Are Illiterates - Olawepo Hashim by Nobody: 1:49pm On May 24, 2021
theTranslator:

Let me tell you
Stop following people
Think for yourself
Restructuring now
Secession later

I just see you as a Yoruba nationalist

But the secession won't work, not now

Think
You'll see
Keep emotions out of this

Yes, I’m a Yoruba nationalist and I have always been since I started digging into Yoruba history. It opened my eyes into a lot of things and I think if there’s ever going to be a great African nation, Yorubas are going to be the ones to build it. What Europeans achieved with Magna Carta Libertatum in the 13th century was already being practiced in Yorubaland long before then.

I don’t think people know how great Oyo empire was and how its civilization was way ahead of its time. What robbed Oyo (and other Yoruba kingdoms) is that Europeans never got the chance to witness its greatness before its collapse (they only heard about it). They only saw its ruins.

That said, I don’t do emotions, I only do logic. When you read extensively on the history of different countries and how they were able to build functioning nations. And you do a comparative analysis with Nigeria, you’d see that Nigeria shares similarities with other failed countries. The only difference is that the failed countries ended up being balkanized and the independent countries that emerged became great countries.

I understand what you mean by restructuring now and secession later, which means we need to crawl before we walk. However, you don’t go to a negotiating table asking outrightly for what you want. That’s why we have not been able to get restructuring. You go there and ask for something extraordinary and negotiate to a compromise.

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Re: Agitators For Biafra, Yoruba Nation Are Illiterates - Olawepo Hashim by theTranslator: 1:54pm On May 24, 2021
OdudwaR:


Yes, I’m a Yoruba nationalist and I have always been since I started digging into Yoruba history. It opened my eyes into a lot of things and I think if there’s ever going to be a great African nation, Yorubas are going to be the ones to build it. What Europeans achieved with Magna Carta Libertatum in the 13th century was already being practiced in Yorubaland long before then.

I don’t think people know how great Oyo empire was and how its civilization was way ahead of its time. What robbed Oyo (and other Yoruba kingdoms) is that Europeans never got the chance to witness its greatness before its collapse (they only heard about it). They only saw its ruins.

That said, I don’t do emotions, I only do logic. When you read extensively on the history of different countries and how they were able to build functioning nations. And you do a comparative analysis with Nigeria, you’d see that Nigeria shares similarities with other failed countries. The only difference is that the failed countries ended up being balkanized and the independent countries that emerged became great countries.

I understand what you mean by restructuring now and secession later, which means we need to crawl before we walk. However, you don’t go to a negotiating table asking outrightly for what you want. That’s why we have not been able to get restructuring. You go there and ask for something extraordinary and negotiate to a compromise.
Exactly
I understand
We shall rise at last
Re: Agitators For Biafra, Yoruba Nation Are Illiterates - Olawepo Hashim by theTranslator: 1:58pm On May 24, 2021
ShadowCracker:

Alright let us see.

Just remember I told you, Yoruba people are tired.

Yoruba nation will be achieved either through diplomacy or war.
This is the 21st century
No war will be fought by God's grace

War takes one backwards

Assuming we weren't fighting (kiriji)
We might have become strong enough to repel the British
We were weakened by internal crises

War takes one decades back
Re: Agitators For Biafra, Yoruba Nation Are Illiterates - Olawepo Hashim by brickswrites: 2:11pm On May 24, 2021
You dont know his history, he has always been like this. He was imprisoned as a student union leader, he was named Prisoner of conscience.

He has visited demilitarized zone between North and South Korea 31 years where nuclear weapons are kept.

The problem with some of you is that you're ignorant and you're comfortable with it.

That's one the major problem with our generation.

He kmows what he saying.

Imsoblessed:
I really do not see a person like olawepo Hashim supporting the disintegration of Nigeria. Not because of patriotism, but because of his mouth. He is one of the people making money from the wicked oil industry system in Nigeria. Don't be deceived, he doesn't love nigeria(nobody really does) but the oil in it.
Re: Agitators For Biafra, Yoruba Nation Are Illiterates - Olawepo Hashim by Frenchkiss564: 2:34pm On May 24, 2021
OdudwaR:


Yes, I’m a Yoruba nationalist and I have always been since I started digging into Yoruba history. It opened my eyes into a lot of things and I think if there’s ever going to be a great African nation, Yorubas are going to be the ones to build it. What Europeans achieved with Magna Carta Libertatum in the 13th century was already being practiced in Yorubaland long before then.

I don’t think people know how great Oyo empire was and how its civilization was way ahead of its time. What robbed Oyo (and other Yoruba kingdoms) is that Europeans never got the chance to witness its greatness before its collapse (they only heard about it). They only saw its ruins.

That said, I don’t do emotions, I only do logic. When you read extensively on the history of different countries and how they were able to build functioning nations. And you do a comparative analysis with Nigeria, you’d see that Nigeria shares similarities with other failed countries. The only difference is that the failed countries ended up being balkanized and the independent countries that emerged became great countries.

I understand what you mean by restructuring now and secession later, which means we need to crawl before we walk. However, you don’t go to a negotiating table asking outrightly for what you want. That’s why we have not been able to get restructuring. You go there and ask for something extraordinary and negotiate to a compromise.


Wisdom
Re: Agitators For Biafra, Yoruba Nation Are Illiterates - Olawepo Hashim by gidgiddy: 3:15pm On May 24, 2021
brickswrites:
Gbenga Olawepo-hashim is second to non in terms of Politics and intellects in the present crop of Politicians in NIGERIA.

Its either we agree or YES, he is unbeatable. He says it point black. Nigeria's unity is not in any way our problem. It will be worst if we go our seperate ways.

I surely know that it will be Nigeria's waste if we dont give Hashim a chance in 2023 to right the wrongs already done to us.


Self determination is an internationally recognised human right. It is also recognised by international law. But this illiterate called Olawepo- Hashim is acting like self determination is something from planet Mars

Britain created Nigeria, yet Britain gave one of its Regions, Northern Ireland, a referendum in 1972 for them to decide if they want to carry being part of Britain

The same Britain gave another Region, Scotland, a referendum in 2014

The same Britain used referendum to leave the EU. But Olawepo Hashim is here talking nonsense

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Re: Agitators For Biafra, Yoruba Nation Are Illiterates - Olawepo Hashim by bilms(m): 4:28pm On May 24, 2021
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Re: Agitators For Biafra, Yoruba Nation Are Illiterates - Olawepo Hashim by NimrodEndOfDays(m): 4:42pm On May 24, 2021
[s]
bilms:
*Agitators for Biafra, Yoruba Nation are illiterates -Ex Presidential Aspirant, Olawepo-Hashim*

Oil mogul and former presidential candidate in 2019, Gbenga Olawepo-Hashim has dismissed those agitating for secession in the country. In an interview with ADETUTU FOLASADE-KOYI, he also speaks on how to resolve the country’s political imbalance and why a referendum, ahead of the 2023 general election is unnecessary.



There are calls for secession in two regions of the country now. Is that not worrisome?

This is just nonsense, to be honest with you. It is pure nonsense. Nigeria, in the Independence Constitution that we had, there were democratically-elected leaders. They were not handpicked and they went to the Lancaster conference in 1957 and 1958.



The Eastern delegates were led by Dr. Nnamdi Azikiwe, the Western delegates were led by Chief Obafemi Awolowo and the northern delegates were led by Sir Ahmadu Bello. And an Independence Constitution was negotiated. One of the critical elements of the Independence Constitution, which remains with all the constitutions that we have had, whether midwifed by the military or whatever, is the principle of indivisibility and indissolubility of the Federal Republic of Nigeria; this was agreed by all the regions.

So, this theory by some illiterates – and some of them may be professors – and they go about talking nonsense as if that is the truth. This theory that Nigeria was put together forcefully by the British is false because the people of Nigeria did negotiate the constitution, led by democratically elected leaders. And, the principle of indissolubility and indivisibility of the Federal Republic of Nigeria was agreed. In fact, it was thoroughly debated at the Lancaster Conference in London, where component regions should have the right to secede or not.

The South West wanted it, the Northern Region also did not mind it. In fact, the most compelling argument for national unity came from Dr. Nnamdi Azikiwe who said that we should have a model constitution like the constitution of the United States of America where secession is an act of treason and that Nigeria should exist in unity in perpetuity!



But with the present realities, are you telling me Nigerians cannot renegotiate our unity?

I am not convinced that the unity of Nigeria is the problem. What I think is the problem is the mismanagement of our diversity. That is the issue.

What do you mean by that?

Well, in the sense that we have not allowed the elements that can guarantee efficient management of state power to operate. We had a coup in 1966 that took powers from the sub-national authorities that would have efficiently managed the situation like security you are talking about. If anything happens in a local government, the people who live in that community will know who the criminals are.

It is easier when security is managed at that level than when it is managed from the central government. There is always a problem with even trust. People will not volunteer information easily. So, some of the security problems we are having is traceable to the fact that powers that were residing at the local level have been taken away and dumped at the federal level. And, you know, interestingly, a lot of people like to blame the Fulani but, the people who carried out the 1966 coup were not Fulani.

So it is not about Hausa or Igbo or Yoruba, it is about the fact that we have distorted the most essential element of managing diversity; which is to have a level of control mobilisation and development and two key elements, security and the economy are the most important elements of activities in a society.

And when you have taken those powers and dumped them at the centre, then you snuff out creativity and efficiency and the state can no longer function at its optimum. When we decentralise, we will regain our balance and I do not think that the issue is our unity. The issue is that we distorted the essential principles of managing that diversity and now we must restore it. That is the solution, not secession and I have not seen an African country that achieved secession that has been better off. Eritrea is not better off than they were. They fought for almost 30 years to leave Ethiopia; what have they achieved after they left? Look at South Sudan; they are now even fighting and all that.



And, let me tell you, Nigeria is more of a blessing than a curse. When people are talking: ‘let us secede.’ Secede to where?

Before Nigeria was amalgamated, there was nothing called a Yoruba nation. What you had was Oyo Empire and the various sub-nationalities in the present South West were in 200 years war against Oyo, the Ekiti and all that. They were all fighting Oyo; to be independent of Oyo. There was so much insecurity. This was a war that was fought) for 200 years. So what do they mean by a Yoruba nation? There was no Yoruba nation before the British amalgamated Nigeria. There was Oyo Empire under Alafin and the Egbas had their own flag and they had their own generals fighting Oyo, fighting Ibadan. Ibadan was the city state that was aligned to Oyo. Even the lower flank to the North, Ilorin, that one had broken up from Oyo. It wanted its own independence. Everybody wanted independence from Oyo Empire. So what is the Yoruba nation that they are talking about?

And the ones in the East that are talking about Biafra, they didn’t even have a kingdom. They didn’t have any empire. What do you mean by Biafra? Everybody was at the clan level when the British came to that place. The only thing in the South-East and South-South that was a big kingdom was Benin and everybody was either a vassal to Benin directly or indirectly in those areas. Secession is pure nonsense. Secession to where?

Some agitators point at the current imbalance, saying one tribe was favoured over others in appointments. Yet you say our Constitution maintains our indivisibility and indissolubility?

Well, that is the problem with the character of a government; it is not a problem with the character of the country. Yar’Adua was president of Nigeria; were all his appointments from Katsina? So, must you break Nigeria because now you are having issues with appointments? If you are having issues with appointments, there are constitutional remedies to correct that. We have the Federal Character Commission; there is no state in this country that is not represented in the Federal Character Commission. Where is their report? Where are the voices of their state representatives? They all keep quiet; they don’t say anything! Then, apart from the institution such as the Federal Character Commission, where is the party? We have governed this country before, in 1999, and 60 per cent of all federal boards were appointed by the committee set up by the National Regulatory Committee. We zoned every big board appointment!

In our time, if the chairman of the Nigeria Ports Authority is zoned to the South-South, that of the Nigeria National Petroleum Corporation cannot be retained in the South-South; it goes to another region. That was how we did it and, at the end of the day, even if (former) President (Olusegun) Obasanjo wanted to do otherwise, it was impossible for him to do. So, one of the problems that you have is not just with the government, virtually all the institutions have collapsed and they have to do with the character of the occupants of those institutions not because those institutions cannot work. Even if you go your way, it is not the guarantee that there will be development in those places. Some people will still be oppressive if you don’t have good leaders. If you don’t have people who are ready to speak up and take up responsibilities that they have signed for, those countries, if they become independent, will not do well.

In the Second Republic, whenever the party spoke, the state actors toe that line. After 2003, progressively, it is a different ball game for our political parties. Can we go back to that era?

Yes we must. Even in countries of Africa that were one party states, the party was strong. All the noise against (late President Robert) Mugagbe, he did not leave until the ZANU PF took a decision and said ‘okay!’ Mugabe knew it was all over at that point, even as the country was a one-party state. The ANC (in South Africa), when they turned against (former President) Jacob Zuma, that was the end of him. So, you need a strong party.

But political parties are not as independent as before. How do we go back to that era because moneybags, governors and political state actors have hijacked the parties?

Some of the people who are shouting today, they were the ones who killed the political parties. I was expelled from the PDP in 2000 because we were insisting on the doctrine of party supremacy. Some people in government humiliated those of us who formed the PDP because they wanted unlimited control over government. Myself, (late) Harry Marshal, some of the founding fathers of PDP then, we were all expelled in one day, in a well programmed attack against the national executive committee of the party, by some people who were shouting that they want to be president today, by some people who are crying that democracy is suffering, they were the ones who killed democracy!

They did not want the party founders; who are great men. I was one of the youngest of the Group of 34 that started PDP and these were great men, those were people who had been in government and they have never stolen money. (Late) Chief Solomon Lar never had a piece of land in Abuja here. (Late) Alhaji Adamu Ciroma never had a house in Abuja here yet, he had been governor of the Central Bank of Nigeria. He had been Minister of Finance. He had seen money more than anybody else had seen. We were inspired by leaders who wanted the best for this country and we respected them, not because they were moneybags. We followed them. We spent our money behind them because we believed in them.

Then, some miscreants came into government and they didn’t want this structure that brought them into government to have any influence on their policies and we were always fighting, it was war from 1999 between the party and some people. Do you know how many times the PDP secretariat was surrounded by armoured tanks? The party itself! They brought armoured tanks to the party secretariat because they wanted to get some people out of the party forcefully. The fight that happened in PDP, between 1999 and 2001 has not happened since then and this was why we lost it. Now, regrettably, the same people who caused the problem are busy jumping about pontificating! One of the problems of Nigeria is that most Nigerians don’t have a sense of history. There is a sense of collective amnesia in this country and people pretend not to even remember things that happened six months ago. So there is no way you can make progress as a country if you don’t have a sense of history.

So, back to the issue, it is not just about (President Muhammadu) Buhari. It is not about secession, it is not about any Fulani, you need strong institutions to have a functioning democracy. Some of the people that are saying they want to secede, how are their governors managing their states? Some of them don’t have five kilometres of functional local roads. Even with the money that is available right now. Is it Buhari that is doing that one?

So, we have a lot of issues but where we are is very simple. Let’s first of all deal with issues that we can agree on and then move forward gradually from there and the rest questions will be resolved politically, democratically on the field of the election if we allow programmes to govern our choices.

Once it is election time now, nobody is focused on the candidates, where is he coming from, who is he, what is his pedigree? You, the media, also have to help to moderate the debate about choices and what issues should govern the political contest. So, we all have our various roles to play in this issue.

Is a referendum necessary now before we go into 2023 elections?

That will be a distraction. Referendum for what?

Well, referendum to address how to move Nigeria forward

Do we need to complicate issues? Look, Boko Haram and the bandits are in Shiroro (Niger State) and few kilometres from Abuja. There are some bandits in the forest of Kaduna. Is it a referendum that you need now or you need to get those guys out of that place and move them back as much as possible? What we need now is to secure, at least, let us secure the North Central states that are around Abuja and that is what my six-point agenda is all about. We need to immediately guaranty security in the various states and local governments.

And we can write our lawmakers now, to amend the sub-sections of the constitution and get concurrence from the states. We can actually do this within the next 60 days. In fact, we can get this done, if there is the will, within the next 30 days. We can actually do it so that the states and the local governments can legitimately raise their local police instead of this vigilante stuff. We need proper police not vigilantes. The vigilantes themselves will become terrors. There must be standard operating procedure that is modern, that even civilised people who want to provide assistance can relate to. A modern structure. I mean, what assistant and support can you get when their insignia is like 15th Century village hunters?

https://www.sunnewsonline.com/agitators-for-biafra-yoruba-nation-are-illiterates-ex-presidential-aspirant-olawepo-hashim/
[/s] That's why you can never win any election. Sophisticated slowpoke.
Re: Agitators For Biafra, Yoruba Nation Are Illiterates - Olawepo Hashim by Queenslander(f): 5:24pm On May 24, 2021
NimrodEndOfDays:
[s][/s] That's why you can never win any election. Sophisticated slowpoke.
you had to quote the whole damn thing,. For what? This balderdash.. smh!
Re: Agitators For Biafra, Yoruba Nation Are Illiterates - Olawepo Hashim by proxillin(m): 5:25pm On May 24, 2021
No wonder u didn't become the president.

U can never be
Re: Agitators For Biafra, Yoruba Nation Are Illiterates - Olawepo Hashim by dometome: 5:29pm On May 24, 2021
theTranslator:

So has your kanu not been begging? grin
And he also knows that a Biafra without the Niger Delta is not plausible
Begging for what, Is Obigbo not part of Biafra? Buharidiot
Re: Agitators For Biafra, Yoruba Nation Are Illiterates - Olawepo Hashim by bilms(m): 5:30pm On May 24, 2021
proxillin:
No wonder u didn't become the president.

U can never be

That's why you will always have a Buhari
Re: Agitators For Biafra, Yoruba Nation Are Illiterates - Olawepo Hashim by NimrodEndOfDays(m): 6:37pm On May 24, 2021
Queenslander:
you had to quote the whole damn thing,. For what? This balderdash.. smh!
Did I quote you? Go and sleep jare.
Re: Agitators For Biafra, Yoruba Nation Are Illiterates - Olawepo Hashim by Nobody: 6:44pm On May 24, 2021
Built2last:
Take it from me. The greatest problem of South breaking away from Northern Hegemony is the Yoruba Muslims.

Their appendage and slavery to the fulani caliphate is customised.

I don't know any Yoruba Muslim who strongly supports the disintegration of this evil marriage.

What is the fear of Muslims in Yoruba nation. Why are they opposed to both restructuring or disintegration.

What makes a Northern muslim so special than you?

Break free, The Yoruba nation will be paradise on earth without the North.

The North doesn't give a flying Fok about you. They have no regard for you.

I was shocked in Abuja when my muslim class mate told me they won't allow him lead prayers in the Hausa/Fulani dominated mosque.


All he said suddenly reflected in u. It's just abt extreme enmity, jealousy, with no proper plan that motivate ur way for secession. Ethno-religious phobia of Muslims is what is pushing u for these unnecessary ranting.
Go to almost all Muslims Students Society in Northern Universities and I'm upbeat you'll find out that most official members are Yoruba, Igala and Ebira; there is no room for tribal sentiment in Islam, this is pure mischief and usual propaganda which a good Muslim can never enage in.
The only people who do justice and make clear clarification, unbias analysis about true Nigerian state are either Yoruba Muslims nor Northerners but the rest allow their argument to be derived from religious house instead of the actual state of the Nation.
Re: Agitators For Biafra, Yoruba Nation Are Illiterates - Olawepo Hashim by Nobody: 7:02pm On May 24, 2021
Hmmm! Too bad many people didn’t take their time to read this.

Gbenga Olawepo-Hashim obviously knows what he’s saying and has what it takes to lead. He’s not like the regular politicians we have in Nigeria.
Re: Agitators For Biafra, Yoruba Nation Are Illiterates - Olawepo Hashim by abifarinajii1: 7:30pm On May 24, 2021
Governance is not about emotions and critical issues about the future of our country should subjected to sound and convincing logic..Majority of the reactions posted here in reactions to Olawepo-Hashim position on Nigeria and the balkanisation agitators are largely driven by emotions, and unfounded logic. I agree with him that most of the agitators are either mischievous or too empty on the history of Nigeria.
Our problem today is not about the size of the country or its diversity (in fact, that is our strength), but the mismanagement of the country resources which is done by the vultures from all tribes.
In fact, we should be grateful for the voice of reason like Olawepo-Hashim, that has become the lone voice in this present wilderness of confusion"
Olawepo Hashim was a year ahead of me in the Mass Comm dept of University of Lagos, and we are together in the Students Movement. He is not frivolous. I can testify.
Re: Agitators For Biafra, Yoruba Nation Are Illiterates - Olawepo Hashim by Elliot2(m): 8:03pm On May 24, 2021
theTranslator:

Let me tell you
Stop following people
Think for yourself
Restructuring now
Secession later

I just see you as a Yoruba nationalist


But the secession won't work, not now

Think
You'll see
Keep emotions out of this
I have never liked you, but you just got my attention. You made sense when you said we should go for restructuring before secession. But that is how far the brilliance goes, that is just the end. The north are not dundies. They will never go for a restructuring in your own terms that will favor you. They will rather go to war than accept a restructuring that leave holes for separation. The north sees restructuring as secession. Restructuring can only happened in their own terms.
Re: Agitators For Biafra, Yoruba Nation Are Illiterates - Olawepo Hashim by Elliot2(m): 8:08pm On May 24, 2021
theTranslator:

Exactly
I understand
We shall rise at last
It's good this aspect of you is coming out, don't let it go down. The yorubas have a great history, one that could rival any other. Yet, this great history is stunted under Nigeria.
Re: Agitators For Biafra, Yoruba Nation Are Illiterates - Olawepo Hashim by abifarinajii1: 8:11pm On May 24, 2021
The present "Break Nigeria" choristers are made up of three groups: Political actors who have lost out in the power game; activists who are tired or seeking more relevance and an uninformed army of youth/elders goaded on by the first two groups.
I want to submit here that even at the height of the fight against military rule, the 'National Dialogue' of July 1990 packaged by the Alao Aka Bashorun-led National Consultative Forum, NCF was not about break up, but about addressing the Class relations and proper democratic structures in the country.
The Kaima Declaration of 1994 by the people of Niger Delta was not about break up, but about democratic governance and Resource Control.
Likewise the Yoruba Agenda signed by prominent Yoruba Leaders of Thought on the 11th of May, 1994 was not about breakup, but about fashioning an "opportunity for self government within ONE NIGERIA". Lets read out history. Lets look at these documents
Nigerians had always want to be one. Lets address the problem.
Just like what Olawepo-Hashim said, #WE ARE BETTER TOGETHER
Re: Agitators For Biafra, Yoruba Nation Are Illiterates - Olawepo Hashim by bilms(m): 8:51pm On May 24, 2021
abifarinajii1:
The present "Break Nigeria" choristers are made up of three groups: Political actors who have lost out in the power game; activists who are tired or seeking more relevance and an uninformed army of youth/elders goaded on by the first two groups.
I want to submit here that even at the height of the fight against military rule, the 'National Dialogue' of July 1990 packaged by the Alao Aka Bashorun-led National Consultative Forum, NCF was not about break up, but about addressing the Class relations and proper democratic structures in the country.
The Kaima Declaration of 1994 by the people of Niger Delta was not about break up, but about democratic governance and Resource Control.
Likewise the Yoruba Agenda signed by prominent Yoruba Leaders of Thought on the 11th of May, 1994 was not about breakup, but about fashioning an "opportunity for self government within ONE NIGERIA". Lets read out history. Lets look at these documents
Nigerians had always want to be one. Lets address the problem.
Just like what Olawepo-Hashim said, #WE ARE BETTER TOGETHER

I agree with you 100%
Re: Agitators For Biafra, Yoruba Nation Are Illiterates - Olawepo Hashim by DMerciful(m): 8:53pm On May 24, 2021
Which constitution? Did you vote for that constitution? Was that constitution gotten by way for referendum or sovereign national conference? That constitution was military imposed and as such a fraud!
Aufbauh:
The man is actually sound,knowledgeable and vast about Nigeria political history.

The only possible thing the common man can achieve to set the country in tune outside restructuring is revolution.
Secession agenda is the most impossible task going by our constitution and the administrators of the document.
I don't like deceiving myself and fooling myself in some infinitismal fantasy.
Re: Agitators For Biafra, Yoruba Nation Are Illiterates - Olawepo Hashim by Queenslander(f): 10:39pm On May 24, 2021
NimrodEndOfDays:
Did I quote you? Go and sleep jare.
Hmmm, okay sir,. I'm about to do just that!!
Re: Agitators For Biafra, Yoruba Nation Are Illiterates - Olawepo Hashim by Rossiminku: 10:53pm On May 24, 2021
Fejoku:
Olawepo Hashim is a fool not to see that the union has become a failure and no union is indivisible whether here on earth or even in heaven. When the power that be in heaven found Lucifer uncooperative, he was cast out of heaven and the relationship dissolved. The holy script states that can two work together unless they agree? As much as God in heaven disliked divorce, He still allowed it on certain conditions. My point is that NO UNION IS INDIVISIBLE NIGERIA INCLUSIVE.
Nigeria is made up of different people with irreconcilable differences that requires the constant shedding of blood to sustain. Gorbachev who saw to the dissolution of the old USSR is today a hero because he did save a lot of lives and resources for the different ethnic groups that once made up the huge country. India was once so humongous that war was a common occurrence there until common sense prevailed. Today, Pakistan
and Bangladesh are better countries advancing in their own pace. Imagine Pakistan and India still sharing one country. That will be a huge disaster like Nigeria has become.
Olawepo Hashim is an educated fool without any iota of conflict resolution. People like him should never be allowed into any crisis riddle situation because he'll only make it worst.
Let me make a prediction about Nigeria and after the said time, this comment and be brought up for verification.
Before December 2021, more than 5000 extra people will be slaughtered in cold blood without the terrorists responsible for it being arrested yet the same people calling for the sustenance of Nigeria will have no solution for it. The time is ticking from today.

ABEG SHUT UP.

Because you don't like Buhari, we must break up Nigeria.

Where was your loud voice in the 16 years of southern rule and looting by PDP?

Was it Fulanis that were looting?

Are Obasanjo and James Ibori and Diezani and Stella Oduah and Orji Kalu and Madam Jonathan et al Fulani people?

Do you know how many billions of dollars we can count between JUST those 6 southerners?

When your people were looting and wrecking the economy, you did not want break up.

Get this: NIGERIA WILL NOT BREAK UP.

If you cannot wait for the next elections in a year and half to choose the next president, MOVE TO ANOTHER COUNTRY.

Traitors.
Re: Agitators For Biafra, Yoruba Nation Are Illiterates - Olawepo Hashim by ibedun: 10:56pm On May 24, 2021
mrvitalis:
Yes zik made a mistake ...yes they thought we could grow and mix up and grow to trust each other but it hasn't worked

The idea of a United Nigeria is fantastic , but the workability is not possible ...truth is we don't trust ourselves ....we suspect ourselves too much ...so let's go our separate ways that doesn't mean we have to be enemies

Referendum is not in our constitution yes so was kidnapping ... it can be added ... referendum would save millions of life honestly

Change “ourselves” to “each other”
Re: Agitators For Biafra, Yoruba Nation Are Illiterates - Olawepo Hashim by Rossiminku: 11:02pm On May 24, 2021
bilms:
*Agitators for Biafra, Yoruba Nation are illiterates -Ex Presidential Aspirant, Olawepo-Hashim*

Oil mogul and former presidential candidate in 2019, Gbenga Olawepo-Hashim has dismissed those agitating for secession in the country. In an interview with ADETUTU FOLASADE-KOYI, he also speaks on how to resolve the country’s political imbalance and why a referendum, ahead of the 2023 general election is unnecessary.



There are calls for secession in two regions of the country now. Is that not worrisome?

This is just nonsense, to be honest with you. It is pure nonsense. Nigeria, in the Independence Constitution that we had, there were democratically-elected leaders. They were not handpicked and they went to the Lancaster conference in 1957 and 1958.



The Eastern delegates were led by Dr. Nnamdi Azikiwe, the Western delegates were led by Chief Obafemi Awolowo and the northern delegates were led by Sir Ahmadu Bello. And an Independence Constitution was negotiated. One of the critical elements of the Independence Constitution, which remains with all the constitutions that we have had, whether midwifed by the military or whatever, is the principle of indivisibility and indissolubility of the Federal Republic of Nigeria; this was agreed by all the regions.

So, this theory by some illiterates – and some of them may be professors – and they go about talking nonsense as if that is the truth. This theory that Nigeria was put together forcefully by the British is false because the people of Nigeria did negotiate the constitution, led by democratically elected leaders. And, the principle of indissolubility and indivisibility of the Federal Republic of Nigeria was agreed. In fact, it was thoroughly debated at the Lancaster Conference in London, where component regions should have the right to secede or not.

The South West wanted it, the Northern Region also did not mind it. In fact, the most compelling argument for national unity came from Dr. Nnamdi Azikiwe who said that we should have a model constitution like the constitution of the United States of America where secession is an act of treason and that Nigeria should exist in unity in perpetuity!



But with the present realities, are you telling me Nigerians cannot renegotiate our unity?

I am not convinced that the unity of Nigeria is the problem. What I think is the problem is the mismanagement of our diversity. That is the issue.

What do you mean by that?

Well, in the sense that we have not allowed the elements that can guarantee efficient management of state power to operate. We had a coup in 1966 that took powers from the sub-national authorities that would have efficiently managed the situation like security you are talking about. If anything happens in a local government, the people who live in that community will know who the criminals are.

It is easier when security is managed at that level than when it is managed from the central government. There is always a problem with even trust. People will not volunteer information easily. So, some of the security problems we are having is traceable to the fact that powers that were residing at the local level have been taken away and dumped at the federal level. And, you know, interestingly, a lot of people like to blame the Fulani but, the people who carried out the 1966 coup were not Fulani.

So it is not about Hausa or Igbo or Yoruba, it is about the fact that we have distorted the most essential element of managing diversity; which is to have a level of control mobilisation and development and two key elements, security and the economy are the most important elements of activities in a society.

And when you have taken those powers and dumped them at the centre, then you snuff out creativity and efficiency and the state can no longer function at its optimum. When we decentralise, we will regain our balance and I do not think that the issue is our unity. The issue is that we distorted the essential principles of managing that diversity and now we must restore it. That is the solution, not secession and I have not seen an African country that achieved secession that has been better off. Eritrea is not better off than they were. They fought for almost 30 years to leave Ethiopia; what have they achieved after they left? Look at South Sudan; they are now even fighting and all that.



And, let me tell you, Nigeria is more of a blessing than a curse. When people are talking: ‘let us secede.’ Secede to where?

Before Nigeria was amalgamated, there was nothing called a Yoruba nation. What you had was Oyo Empire and the various sub-nationalities in the present South West were in 200 years war against Oyo, the Ekiti and all that. They were all fighting Oyo; to be independent of Oyo. There was so much insecurity. This was a war that was fought) for 200 years. So what do they mean by a Yoruba nation? There was no Yoruba nation before the British amalgamated Nigeria. There was Oyo Empire under Alafin and the Egbas had their own flag and they had their own generals fighting Oyo, fighting Ibadan. Ibadan was the city state that was aligned to Oyo. Even the lower flank to the North, Ilorin, that one had broken up from Oyo. It wanted its own independence. Everybody wanted independence from Oyo Empire. So what is the Yoruba nation that they are talking about?

And the ones in the East that are talking about Biafra, they didn’t even have a kingdom. They didn’t have any empire. What do you mean by Biafra? Everybody was at the clan level when the British came to that place. The only thing in the South-East and South-South that was a big kingdom was Benin and everybody was either a vassal to Benin directly or indirectly in those areas. Secession is pure nonsense. Secession to where?

Some agitators point at the current imbalance, saying one tribe was favoured over others in appointments. Yet you say our Constitution maintains our indivisibility and indissolubility?

Well, that is the problem with the character of a government; it is not a problem with the character of the country. Yar’Adua was president of Nigeria; were all his appointments from Katsina? So, must you break Nigeria because now you are having issues with appointments? If you are having issues with appointments, there are constitutional remedies to correct that. We have the Federal Character Commission; there is no state in this country that is not represented in the Federal Character Commission. Where is their report? Where are the voices of their state representatives? They all keep quiet; they don’t say anything! Then, apart from the institution such as the Federal Character Commission, where is the party? We have governed this country before, in 1999, and 60 per cent of all federal boards were appointed by the committee set up by the National Regulatory Committee. We zoned every big board appointment!

In our time, if the chairman of the Nigeria Ports Authority is zoned to the South-South, that of the Nigeria National Petroleum Corporation cannot be retained in the South-South; it goes to another region. That was how we did it and, at the end of the day, even if (former) President (Olusegun) Obasanjo wanted to do otherwise, it was impossible for him to do. So, one of the problems that you have is not just with the government, virtually all the institutions have collapsed and they have to do with the character of the occupants of those institutions not because those institutions cannot work. Even if you go your way, it is not the guarantee that there will be development in those places. Some people will still be oppressive if you don’t have good leaders. If you don’t have people who are ready to speak up and take up responsibilities that they have signed for, those countries, if they become independent, will not do well.

In the Second Republic, whenever the party spoke, the state actors toe that line. After 2003, progressively, it is a different ball game for our political parties. Can we go back to that era?

Yes we must. Even in countries of Africa that were one party states, the party was strong. All the noise against (late President Robert) Mugagbe, he did not leave until the ZANU PF took a decision and said ‘okay!’ Mugabe knew it was all over at that point, even as the country was a one-party state. The ANC (in South Africa), when they turned against (former President) Jacob Zuma, that was the end of him. So, you need a strong party.

But political parties are not as independent as before. How do we go back to that era because moneybags, governors and political state actors have hijacked the parties?

Some of the people who are shouting today, they were the ones who killed the political parties. I was expelled from the PDP in 2000 because we were insisting on the doctrine of party supremacy. Some people in government humiliated those of us who formed the PDP because they wanted unlimited control over government. Myself, (late) Harry Marshal, some of the founding fathers of PDP then, we were all expelled in one day, in a well programmed attack against the national executive committee of the party, by some people who were shouting that they want to be president today, by some people who are crying that democracy is suffering, they were the ones who killed democracy!

They did not want the party founders; who are great men. I was one of the youngest of the Group of 34 that started PDP and these were great men, those were people who had been in government and they have never stolen money. (Late) Chief Solomon Lar never had a piece of land in Abuja here. (Late) Alhaji Adamu Ciroma never had a house in Abuja here yet, he had been governor of the Central Bank of Nigeria. He had been Minister of Finance. He had seen money more than anybody else had seen. We were inspired by leaders who wanted the best for this country and we respected them, not because they were moneybags. We followed them. We spent our money behind them because we believed in them.

Then, some miscreants came into government and they didn’t want this structure that brought them into government to have any influence on their policies and we were always fighting, it was war from 1999 between the party and some people. Do you know how many times the PDP secretariat was surrounded by armoured tanks? The party itself! They brought armoured tanks to the party secretariat because they wanted to get some people out of the party forcefully. The fight that happened in PDP, between 1999 and 2001 has not happened since then and this was why we lost it. Now, regrettably, the same people who caused the problem are busy jumping about pontificating! One of the problems of Nigeria is that most Nigerians don’t have a sense of history. There is a sense of collective amnesia in this country and people pretend not to even remember things that happened six months ago. So there is no way you can make progress as a country if you don’t have a sense of history.

So, back to the issue, it is not just about (President Muhammadu) Buhari. It is not about secession, it is not about any Fulani, you need strong institutions to have a functioning democracy. Some of the people that are saying they want to secede, how are their governors managing their states? Some of them don’t have five kilometres of functional local roads. Even with the money that is available right now. Is it Buhari that is doing that one?

So, we have a lot of issues but where we are is very simple. Let’s first of all deal with issues that we can agree on and then move forward gradually from there and the rest questions will be resolved politically, democratically on the field of the election if we allow programmes to govern our choices.

Once it is election time now, nobody is focused on the candidates, where is he coming from, who is he, what is his pedigree? You, the media, also have to help to moderate the debate about choices and what issues should govern the political contest. So, we all have our various roles to play in this issue.

Is a referendum necessary now before we go into 2023 elections?

That will be a distraction. Referendum for what?

Well, referendum to address how to move Nigeria forward

Do we need to complicate issues? Look, Boko Haram and the bandits are in Shiroro (Niger State) and few kilometres from Abuja. There are some bandits in the forest of Kaduna. Is it a referendum that you need now or you need to get those guys out of that place and move them back as much as possible? What we need now is to secure, at least, let us secure the North Central states that are around Abuja and that is what my six-point agenda is all about. We need to immediately guaranty security in the various states and local governments.

And we can write our lawmakers now, to amend the sub-sections of the constitution and get concurrence from the states. We can actually do this within the next 60 days. In fact, we can get this done, if there is the will, within the next 30 days. We can actually do it so that the states and the local governments can legitimately raise their local police instead of this vigilante stuff. We need proper police not vigilantes. The vigilantes themselves will become terrors. There must be standard operating procedure that is modern, that even civilised people who want to provide assistance can relate to. A modern structure. I mean, what assistant and support can you get when their insignia is like 15th Century village hunters?

https://www.sunnewsonline.com/agitators-for-biafra-yoruba-nation-are-illiterates-ex-presidential-aspirant-olawepo-hashim/

Very intelligent, knowledgeable man with common sense.
Re: Agitators For Biafra, Yoruba Nation Are Illiterates - Olawepo Hashim by Idiko1: 11:06pm On May 24, 2021
Built2last:
Take it from me. The greatest problem of South breaking away from Northern Hegemony is the Yoruba Muslims.

Their appendage and slavery to the fulani caliphate is customised.

I don't know any Yoruba Muslim who strongly supports the disintegration of this evil marriage.

What is the fear of Muslims in Yoruba nation. Why are they opposed to both restructuring or disintegration.

What makes a Northern muslim so special than you?

Break free, The Yoruba nation will be paradise on earth without the North.

The North doesn't give a flying Fok about you. They have no regard for you.

I was shocked in Abuja when my muslim class mate told me they won't allow him lead prayers in the Hausa/Fulani dominated mosque.



I had rather say the allocation of Crude Oil Block than Muslims. This is not only in Yoruba but other ethnic nationalities.
Re: Agitators For Biafra, Yoruba Nation Are Illiterates - Olawepo Hashim by Idiko1: 11:09pm On May 24, 2021
mrvitalis:
Yes zik made a mistake ... yes they thought we could grow and mix up and grow to trust each other but it hasn't worked

The idea of a United Nigeria is fantastic , but the workability is not possible ...truth is we don't trust ourselves ....we suspect ourselves too much ...so let's go our separate ways that doesn't mean we have to be enemies

Referendum is not in our constitution yes so was kidnapping ... it can be added ... referendum would save millions of life honestly

Please take Zik out of the crap called Nigeria because Zik was not British and had no colonial power. He was just single voice not the final arbiter on what comes out of the national conferences.
Re: Agitators For Biafra, Yoruba Nation Are Illiterates - Olawepo Hashim by theTranslator: 11:33pm On May 24, 2021
Elliot2:
I have never liked you, but you just got my attention. You made sense when you said we should go for restructuring before secession. But that is how far the brilliance goes, that is just the end. The north are not dundies. They will never go for a restructuring in your own terms that will favor you. They will rather go to war than accept a restructuring that leave holes for separation. The north sees restructuring as secession. Restructuring can only happened in their own terms.
This is why the south must be united

I say the truth

The truth always prevails
Re: Agitators For Biafra, Yoruba Nation Are Illiterates - Olawepo Hashim by Elliot2(m): 11:41pm On May 24, 2021
theTranslator:

This is why the south must be united

I say the truth

The truth always prevails
Our unity will not produce any results, sadly. The national assembly is rigged in favour of the north. put all our representatives together, we will not still match their figure. And you can not lobby any member of them to go against the north agenda in that regard. Until that fraudulent 1999 constitution is thrown out, we can not do anything. That is where the power of the north lies, and they will do anything to keep it so.
Re: Agitators For Biafra, Yoruba Nation Are Illiterates - Olawepo Hashim by theTranslator: 11:50pm On May 24, 2021
Elliot2:
Our unity will not produce any results, sadly. The national assembly is rigged in favour of the north. put all our representatives together, we will not still match their figure. And you can not lobby any member of them to go against the north agenda in that regard. Until that fraudulent 1999 constitution is thrown out, we can not do anything. That is where the power of the north lies, and they will do anything to keep it so.
We shall get over it
The main reason I want to secede is because of our indeginious culture especially our languages
English is killing it
It pains me how children abandon their languages

For our indeginious languages to survive they have to be a first language somewhere

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