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Re: Messi Vs Kante: Who Would You Rather Have In Your Team? by lichocho(m): 6:43am On May 31, 2021 |
Masterito:chelsea fans ahhhh..so Messi neva win World Cup na him make Kante beta pass am..chai 3 Likes |
Re: Messi Vs Kante: Who Would You Rather Have In Your Team? by blueAgent(m): 6:59am On May 31, 2021 |
Lordbinsmar: Has Kante ever played in a 433 formation as the single pivot and played it well? Its obvious you don't watch football or you don't know how to analysis it. In Leicester Kante played in a four -man midfield where Drinkwater was the holding midfielder while Kante was the box to box midfielder, in Chelsea, currently Tuchel plays a 352 with Jorginho playing as the deep playing midfielder or holding midfielder while Kante plays the box to box midfielder. Go back and watch chelsea games this season. A holding midfielder does not play box to box role. If you know what a holding midfielder does you will not be arguing, does kante set the tempo of the game? How many passes does he complete in a game, does he help to break press? 4 Likes |
Re: Messi Vs Kante: Who Would You Rather Have In Your Team? by paulolee(m): 7:24am On May 31, 2021 |
deeptechcool:lolz...d topic didnt mention cr7 but kante...i wont bring achievement up its about cr7 bcoz both are legend n I respect both,...I talked about achievement bcoz he placed a legend along with a common player like kante with was an insult so pls don't start changing topic abeeg 2 Likes |
Re: Messi Vs Kante: Who Would You Rather Have In Your Team? by kolamilan(m): 7:46am On May 31, 2021 |
Lordbinsmar:Kante is a box to box midfielder. Just like Arturo Vidal. Example of holding midfielder or DM is bisquest or fernadihho 3 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Messi Vs Kante: Who Would You Rather Have In Your Team? by Masterito(m): 8:17am On May 31, 2021 |
Goan and sleep if you don't understand the argument. Read what the topic says before you crying gutter water. lichocho: |
Re: Messi Vs Kante: Who Would You Rather Have In Your Team? by Lordbinsmar: 8:50am On May 31, 2021 |
kolamilan: He played as a box to box midfielder at Leicester City and when he first arrived at Chelsea.But his current role at Chelsea is holding midfielder. |
Re: Messi Vs Kante: Who Would You Rather Have In Your Team? by Akv666: 8:59am On May 31, 2021 |
paulolee: did you just say Kante doesn't win aerial duels? perhaps you go back and check the statistics, coz you're spitting gibberish |
Re: Messi Vs Kante: Who Would You Rather Have In Your Team? by lichocho(m): 9:08am On May 31, 2021 |
Masterito:chai |
Re: Messi Vs Kante: Who Would You Rather Have In Your Team? by Lordbinsmar: 9:13am On May 31, 2021 |
kolamilan: Look at the profiles of top holding midfielder in the world. https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.sportbible.com/football/top-10s-news-the-top-10-holding-midfielders-in-the-world-right-now-have-been-ranked-20200718.amp.html Please note that they have different style of play but performs the same role for their team, which is mainly to prevent opponent attacks, protect their team's defensive line, win back possession and try to build possession from the back. How ever holding midfielders can perform each of this role better than one another. For example busquet is the best when it comes to building possession from the back line, while kante is better than busquet when it comes to ball recovery and winning back possession in dangerous area. Xabi Alonso and Javier macherano during their days have different playing styles, but both of them played as holding midfielder while at Anfield. Any body who can't recognize Kante's currently role at Chelsea as a holding midfielder needs to improve his or her knowledge and understanding of player roles in football. Holding midfielder is not a position in football but rather a role performed by certain midfielders of which Kante is one of them. |
Re: Messi Vs Kante: Who Would You Rather Have In Your Team? by Lordbinsmar: 9:19am On May 31, 2021 |
blueAgent: https://punditfeed.com/lists/best-defensive-midfielders-world/ https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://www.sportbible.com/football/top-10s-news-the-top-10-holding-midfielders-in-the-world-right-now-have-been-ranked-20200718.amp.html&ved=2ahUKEwiVnvOevfPwAhXSi1wKHTEaCf0QFjALegQIFxAC&usg=AOvVaw0IPC3UzEW8fqOORAK_Z3-q&cf=1&cshid=1622449131433 |
Re: Messi Vs Kante: Who Would You Rather Have In Your Team? by blueAgent(m): 9:31am On May 31, 2021 |
Lordbinsmar: Na waha for you. Did the article say Kante has played as a single pivot? You only posted an article written by people just like you who do not understand football tactics. Am not surprised with this article when ex -footballers like Rio Ferdinand cannot differentiate between a Holding midfielder and a defensive midfielder. https://medium.com/@aniketsrivastava81/explaining-the-role-of-a-cdm-central-defensive-midfielder-90843b8b4315 Is like you comparing a false 9 to a pure 9. |
Re: Messi Vs Kante: Who Would You Rather Have In Your Team? by Lordbinsmar: 9:42am On May 31, 2021 |
blueAgent: You clearly know little about roles of player in football. Playing as Defensive midfielder is a player's position in football ball, while playing as a holding midfielder is clearly a role performed by certain midfielders in football of which Kante perfectly fit into this role regardless of his playing style. He is just like Claude Makalele. You are confusing playing styles of players with their roles and position in a team. Please have you ever trained as a footballer under a well seasoned coach or trainer before? If yes you should just swallow your pride and accept that Kante is a holding midfielder. If no try to ask the question from any unbiased and a well seasoned coach. He or She will be able to explain better to you. Best wishes. |
Re: Messi Vs Kante: Who Would You Rather Have In Your Team? by blueAgent(m): 9:55am On May 31, 2021 |
Lordbinsmar: I laugh at you. Yet you could not answer my question. Where has Kante played in a 433 formation as the single pivot and excelled? Go and watch Arsenal vs Chelsea under conte first season. https://www.google.com/amp/s/101-tactics.com/2020/04/21/best-defensive-midfielder/amp/?espv=1 |
Re: Messi Vs Kante: Who Would You Rather Have In Your Team? by diordaves(m): 9:57am On May 31, 2021 |
paulolee: All you Messi fans just calm down and read the poser again. It is not a comparism. However, if you want to go down that route, Kante is the greater. Kante has won: Premier league FA Europa WORLD CUP. SUPER CUP loading...... Kante has won every MAJOR title football has to offer. EVERYTHING, he has won it all. Messi should win the world cup and a league apart from Barcelona. Messi is a goal machine and a genius but only in his comfort zone, Barcelona. |
Re: Messi Vs Kante: Who Would You Rather Have In Your Team? by blueAgent(m): 10:01am On May 31, 2021 |
Lordbinsmar: My argument is that Kante is not fit for playing as single pivot in 433. Here is the link. https://footballbh.net/2019/02/23/claude-makelele-ngolo-kante-chelsea-tactical-analysis-statistics/ There are numerous examples of Kante playing in a 433 as single pivot and he messed up. |
Re: Messi Vs Kante: Who Would You Rather Have In Your Team? by courag10: 10:14am On May 31, 2021 |
Anyone can be Kante but only mercy can be Messi God of soccer 4 Likes |
Re: Messi Vs Kante: Who Would You Rather Have In Your Team? by deeptechcool(m): 10:17am On May 31, 2021 |
paulolee: It might be highly degrading putting Messi and Kante in the same sentence when discussing individual and team achievements, but understanding the context of OP comparison is eluding you. He never said Kante is anything near Messi so stop the baseless arguments. 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Messi Vs Kante: Who Would You Rather Have In Your Team? by paulolee(m): 10:35am On May 31, 2021 |
diordaves:you keep listing team trophies n i havnt seen any individual recognition or award from ur so called kante.. messi is in his comfort zone dt gave him 6 ballon d or more than all players dead and alive in france...tired of arguing with sentimental peps abegi.. 6 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Messi Vs Kante: Who Would You Rather Have In Your Team? by blueAgent(m): 10:35am On May 31, 2021 |
Lordbinsmar: You claim you know football but you barley understand it. So you don't know that a players style influences where and how he will be played. Kante is not a Makalele. You cannot play Kante as your registra in a single pivot and he has never done well in that role. https://weaintgotnohistory.sbnation.com/platform/amp/2018/11/22/18106197/ngolo-kante-is-not-playing-in-the-wrong-position-at-chelsea |
Re: Messi Vs Kante: Who Would You Rather Have In Your Team? by paulolee(m): 10:37am On May 31, 2021 |
Akv666:aerial duels than the likes or viera, yaya, or alonso?? guy mk una de calm down with dis kante hype na.. the VVD and Fernandez wey una hype all don calm down o... 3 Likes |
Re: Messi Vs Kante: Who Would You Rather Have In Your Team? by Lordbinsmar: 10:38am On May 31, 2021 |
blueAgent: Can a holding midfielder only play as a single pivot? What about Alonso and Macherano for Liverpool, Busquet and Alonso for Spanish national team. You are talking about formation and not the role of players. You can play a holding midfielder in a single or double pivot depending on the chosen formation. |
Re: Messi Vs Kante: Who Would You Rather Have In Your Team? by blueAgent(m): 10:41am On May 31, 2021 |
paulolee: See killing. On point. |
Re: Messi Vs Kante: Who Would You Rather Have In Your Team? by blueAgent(m): 10:44am On May 31, 2021 |
whippersnapper: He single handedly? I guess he played alone , Clown. 1 Like |
Re: Messi Vs Kante: Who Would You Rather Have In Your Team? by Kindledlight(m): 10:45am On May 31, 2021 |
Bomboiy: I won’t stoop so low to engage a kid like you. |
Re: Messi Vs Kante: Who Would You Rather Have In Your Team? by paulolee(m): 10:47am On May 31, 2021 |
deeptechcool:. mtchweeeee.....stupid n baseless contex because he placed a small kante alongside with a legend like messi... even ur British hyper media cnt try such.. 2 Likes |
Re: Messi Vs Kante: Who Would You Rather Have In Your Team? by Krasid(m): 10:53am On May 31, 2021 |
Lordbinsmar:Give it a rest. Kante was, and is still a box-to-box midfielder. He is heavily involved in Chelsea's attacking and defensive play. In the semi final against Madrid, he was the creative force in both goals and he made a lot of counterattacking runs. Even in the final, he made an attacking run where he outjumped Dias and Sterling but his header went wide. Kante is not like Makalele, he is something more. Even Joe Cole described him as Makalele plus extra because he breaks play and also supports the attack; switching between both roles tirelessly. That's why it is often joked that he covers everywhere! 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Messi Vs Kante: Who Would You Rather Have In Your Team? by blueAgent(m): 10:54am On May 31, 2021 |
Lordbinsmar: Holding midfielders are mainly playmakers with defensive capacity, kante has only defensive capabilities but not playmaking ability. That's true, and that's why I said earlier that Kante does not play well in a 433 as the single pivot. |
Re: Messi Vs Kante: Who Would You Rather Have In Your Team? by OJEEMAH(m): 11:26am On May 31, 2021 |
Lordbinsmar:Macherano played as a DM. Alonso was the holding midfielder. He dictates the play by controlling the tempo of the game. Kante can fit into Macherano's position but not that of Alonso. In Chelsea, Kovacic & Jorginho are the two holding midfielders. kante is a full time DM and does not possess enough creativity to play as a holding midfielder. 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Messi Vs Kante: Who Would You Rather Have In Your Team? by Fantazy(m): 11:51am On May 31, 2021 |
As it gotten to this? Comparing one black shit with world best? Problem no go ever finish for this world! 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Messi Vs Kante: Who Would You Rather Have In Your Team? by Ugokelvin007: 11:55am On May 31, 2021 |
Without sentiments I hv seen Messi played with top country or league side but couldn't deliver as usual..he's excellent with small clubs blueAgent: |
Re: Messi Vs Kante: Who Would You Rather Have In Your Team? by blueAgent(m): 12:18pm On May 31, 2021 |
Ugokelvin007: Really? I guess he got to World cup final through you playing his role? Clown your brain need formatting. 1 Like |
Re: Messi Vs Kante: Who Would You Rather Have In Your Team? by Bomboiy: 12:27pm On May 31, 2021 |
Kindledlight:But you stooped so low to quote the same kid not once but twice. |
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