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Re: Senate Passes Bill Abolishing HND/BSc Dichotomy by Wondakind: 2:04pm On Jun 02
It not by passing bills, how are they going to ensure implementation?
Re: Senate Passes Bill Abolishing HND/BSc Dichotomy by MrHerrera(m): 2:05pm On Jun 02
For the umpteenth time abi.... All na lie lie
Re: Senate Passes Bill Abolishing HND/BSc Dichotomy by ukpahu(m): 2:06pm On Jun 02
Nothing change
Re: Senate Passes Bill Abolishing HND/BSc Dichotomy by ukpahu(m): 2:06pm On Jun 02
I see no change
Re: Senate Passes Bill Abolishing HND/BSc Dichotomy by Khaliyah(m): 2:07pm On Jun 02
BKayy:
So no need to score high in jamb to go to University when the degree you'll get there is the same with one guy that scored 160 and went to poly

Scoring higher in jamb means you are more qualified than they are or you better of in the field??
Re: Senate Passes Bill Abolishing HND/BSc Dichotomy by ykgenius14(m): 2:07pm On Jun 02
nonsense..! what is the difference between first living school certifacte and the so called B sc. now? is there any provision for standard education..... yeye bill wey dem dey pass upamdawn..
Re: Senate Passes Bill Abolishing HND/BSc Dichotomy by Danny50: 2:08pm On Jun 02
NCE should be included.

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Re: Senate Passes Bill Abolishing HND/BSc Dichotomy by emimore: 2:09pm On Jun 02
BKayy:
So no need to score high in jamb to go to University when the degree you'll get there is the same with one guy that scored 160 and went to poly

But we all know that scoring high or low is not the major reason people go to the university or polytechnic. There's still one other guy that scored 140 but still went to one the best private university

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Re: Senate Passes Bill Abolishing HND/BSc Dichotomy by Freksy(m): 2:11pm On Jun 02
etokhana:


https://leadership.ng/breaking-senate-passes-law-prohibiting-discrimination-against-hnd-holders/amp/

It will need strong enforcement for implementation, especially, in the private sector.
Re: Senate Passes Bill Abolishing HND/BSc Dichotomy by Emotionss: 2:11pm On Jun 02
When will they pass bill abolishing quata system ?
Re: Senate Passes Bill Abolishing HND/BSc Dichotomy by Odidigboigbo(m): 2:13pm On Jun 02
Thegracefulness:
To be honest, this is welcome development. Although, it’d be quite difficult to access how well it’s been received. I want to see how exactly they hope to enforce it in private companies or establishments.

Good laws deserve implementation.
This has nothing to do with private company. Private company recruit based on what you can offer and years of experience. In private company, you can see someone with OND being the HOD of someone with MSc. In my former place, my supervisor was HND holder while I have two MSc before I joined them. Though, I met him there, he was the one that interviewed me.

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Re: Senate Passes Bill Abolishing HND/BSc Dichotomy by GodisFirst: 2:14pm On Jun 02
So you don't know that some people in this country are admitted into BSc with 80 just because of their state. When that person graduate, will you rate him higher than someone with 119 who decided to go through the polytechnics because they denied him admission into BSc because he is from a different state in the same country.
Same thing is done in Unity schools, you have 50, they will you admission because of your state, while someone with 9 is given the admission because of his state. So any legal route you take to graduate in order to get employment or learn skills, to earn a genuine living and take care of yourself and family shouldn't bother me. I will employ you once I find out that you can deliver on the job.

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Re: Senate Passes Bill Abolishing HND/BSc Dichotomy by Kayw4re(m): 2:15pm On Jun 02
bcomputer101:
Make una keep deceiving yourself.


How will you compare Bsc with ordinary HND.

To get admission in University, you need to score as high above 200 in JAMB.
But with just 120, you will get admission in any Polytechnic of your choice.


Incase you want to beat me, come my house


Ordinary HND? Make I no laugh bros. As you go university reach, you think say cut off mark is the appropriate yard stick to measure the two of them?

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Re: Senate Passes Bill Abolishing HND/BSc Dichotomy by adubam(m): 2:16pm On Jun 02
bcomputer101:
Make una keep deceiving yourself.


How will you compare Bsc with ordinary HND.

To get admission in University, you need to score as high above 200 in JAMB.
But with just 120, you will get admission in any Polytechnic of your choice.


Incase you want to beat me, come my house

Ignorant is your problem. You don't write JAMB to be admitted into HND. You write JAMB to be admitted for ND program.

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Re: Senate Passes Bill Abolishing HND/BSc Dichotomy by princejones(m): 2:16pm On Jun 02
Implementation should be mandatory to all MDA and the likes public sector
Re: Senate Passes Bill Abolishing HND/BSc Dichotomy by Freksy(m): 2:18pm On Jun 02
omooba2015:
There should be an hierarchy in the system.. Bsc and Hnd..
Are they using same syllabus.

Yes, there should be hierarchy. The H N D should be HIGHER

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Re: Senate Passes Bill Abolishing HND/BSc Dichotomy by babztee(m): 2:20pm On Jun 02
I have lost count of how many times this bill has been passed.more so,I have no problem with the passing but rather with the implementation.
Re: Senate Passes Bill Abolishing HND/BSc Dichotomy by Mckeni007: 2:20pm On Jun 02
It's very selfish to compare an HND to a Bsc
One who's supposed to be an assistant Lecturer in university is an HOD in the politechnic.
Universities lecture politechnic lecturers
Politechnic is a dumping ground for below average intellectual students
Politechnic admission process is more like that of a secondary school

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Re: Senate Passes Bill Abolishing HND/BSc Dichotomy by xandy84: 2:20pm On Jun 02
It is not the function of legislative arm of government to create jobs.








tydi:
They should also create jobs and not wasting time on frivolities .

Naija legislature Na scam!

Judiciary Na Junk.

Re: Senate Passes Bill Abolishing HND/BSc Dichotomy by tumababa(m): 2:22pm On Jun 02
Racoon:
smiley Good! But will that now help the unemployment situation in Nigeria today?

I wonder oo. Were they denied employment cos of a law? It will just be an unwritten rule for companies that don’t want to employ hnd holders.
Re: Senate Passes Bill Abolishing HND/BSc Dichotomy by Nobody: 2:22pm On Jun 02
smartty68:
Also include NEPA bill to it too.

Yes o... make it legal. It's already in effect.

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Re: Senate Passes Bill Abolishing HND/BSc Dichotomy by Nobody: 2:24pm On Jun 02
Kuku abolish HND & award B.Tech. My own success in life doesn't depend on papers.
Re: Senate Passes Bill Abolishing HND/BSc Dichotomy by Bigii(m): 2:24pm On Jun 02
MrHighSea:
It'll usher in more chaos.

HND can't lecture.
HND can't register as a senior member in some professional bodies.
HND can't run Masters directly.

In engineering, We have Craftsman (SSCE), Technicians(Ond), Technologist (HND), Engineer(Bsc).

They should revise the curriculum of Polytechnics, then award them B.Tech.


Some morons don't know this.

In Library and Information Science (B.LIS) Librarians (HND) Library Officers. Librarians Registration Council of Nigeria (LRCN) would never accept the registration of HND to become CLN

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Re: Senate Passes Bill Abolishing HND/BSc Dichotomy by tunene66: 2:30pm On Jun 02

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Re: Senate Passes Bill Abolishing HND/BSc Dichotomy by sukar886: 2:30pm On Jun 02
Rubbish,the is the kind of thing our rubber stamp senator will pass, how can you compare who bought ordinary form to get admission and someone who wrote jamb and score 240 above

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Re: Senate Passes Bill Abolishing HND/BSc Dichotomy by geemailer2019: 2:31pm On Jun 02
slyfoxxjoe:
But was there a reason behind the discrimination to begin with? Are HND holders on par with Bsc holders intellectually? Worth asking because most HND holders I know go on to enroll for Bsc degrees too. No foreign University will admit you for a masters program with a HND. So maybe there is a reason for it.

US colleges and universities accept HND graduates directly for MSc programs. World Education Services (WES) is one of the organizations who evaluate Nigerian degrees for advanced degrees in the US. If you have completed 120 credit hours at a college in Nigeria, your credential is evaluated as equivalent to a US degree and you're accepted directly into a Master's program.

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Re: Senate Passes Bill Abolishing HND/BSc Dichotomy by Freksy(m): 2:33pm On Jun 02
Mckeni007:
It's very selfish to compare an HND to a Bsc
One who's supposed to be an assistant Lecturer in university is an HOD in the politechnic.
Universities lecture politechnic lecturers
Politechnic is a dumping ground for below average intellectual students
Politechnic admission process is more like that of a secondary schools



In many companies, employees from polytechnics perform far better than those from the universities. They work with more confidence, and with little or no supervisions on technical jobs. Graduates from universities are found to be fairly better when it comes to paper works. It’s rather very selfish to say the dichotomy shouldn’t be removed.
Re: Senate Passes Bill Abolishing HND/BSc Dichotomy by Drefaithful(m): 2:33pm On Jun 02
This remind of my days in Federal polytechnic Offa, During one of our Aluta in
2004, we marched enmass to the the Rector's office, Dr Razak Bello then, He came out and addressed us, having exhaust all our agenda, we requested that in his capacity, he should try to help us fight the Dichotomy between Bsc and HND, his reply was what led me to go to University. he says '' even at the entry level, Polytechnic requests for 4 O'level Credit while University requests for 5 O'level Credit '' since that day, i had already made up my mind for varsity education, which i eventually did.

This bill is long overdue and is a welcome development, Because of the scarcity of varsity admission which has been prompting most students to opt for Polytechnic education, all of us cannot go to University.

The bitter truth is that, the compliance level will be very low, though in Public Sector they will comply, but i can tell you ahead of time that in private sector, the discrimination continues, most especially the multinational companies, like Big 4, we have in accounting. the likes of PWC, KPMG, Ernest & Young and Delliotte.

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Re: Senate Passes Bill Abolishing HND/BSc Dichotomy by geemailer2019: 2:35pm On Jun 02
sukar886:
Rubbish,the is the kind of thing our rubber stamp senator will pass, how can you compare who bought ordinary form to get admission and someone who wrote jamb and score 240 above

both HND and BSc graduates are equivalent in the US and accepted for Master's degrees with no discrimination
Re: Senate Passes Bill Abolishing HND/BSc Dichotomy by Omolomo4eva(m): 2:38pm On Jun 02
Correct

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