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Re: Who Caused The Insecurity In The Southeast? by MalcoImX: 9:34pm On Jun 10
ygowon:
Where u not ashamed of your president in the interviews?
Why should I when I am not Reno Omokri, FFK or Namdy Kanes.

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Re: Who Caused The Insecurity In The Southeast? by vasel15: 9:35pm On Jun 10
MalcoImX:


Is there anything like that in a zoo?

Do you now recognize Nigeria?

If you do, it's only then that I'll answer you.


dude i want to know how to engage you better,i am igbo btw
Re: Who Caused The Insecurity In The Southeast? by MalcoImX: 9:42pm On Jun 10
vasel15:


dude i want to know how to engage you better,i am igbo btw
To be honest with you I don't think we'll come to terms if you're an iPoB sympathizer.

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Re: Who Caused The Insecurity In The Southeast? by MalcoImX: 9:44pm On Jun 10
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Re: Who Caused The Insecurity In The Southeast? by aniomadei1975: 10:38pm On Jun 10
ygowon:
It will be nice to outline how this unrest started so we can put blame on those who deserve it.

People are on their own living their life and farming. Fulani herdsmen started destroying their farms and killing the people. People raised alarm to the government meant to secure them but the government turned a blind eye.

The people begged the governors to form a security outfit to secure them since the Nigeria securities were not protecting them (Nnamdi Kanu personally wrote the governors of the southeast to form a security outfit like amotekun to protect the people or he would form one). The governors refused to form a security outfit and Kanu formed one called ESN.

ESN started protecting the land from the fulani herdsmen and the people developed confidence in them and also loved them because they only operated against the Fulani herdsmen and only in the bush.

Then, one day, the police went to challenge them in the bush only to know that the ESN is powerful.

Then, soldiers went to the bush to challenge them only to know that the boys were overpowering. The army left the bush and went to the town and were shooting sporadically.

Then, the ESN followed the soldiers to the town to engage them. And that was how insecurity was formed in the southeast.

Now, who is to be blamed?

For me, I blame the governors for not setting up security the eastern security outfit before Kanu did.

The southeast governors should grow balls like Ondo governor and Senator Abaribe to serve the interests of the people.

This person says Fulani and he is right.

NNAMDI KANU IN 2014. WHY WAS HE PARADING WITH GUNMEN IN 2014?

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Re: Who Caused The Insecurity In The Southeast? by FarahAideed: 10:57pm On Jun 10
Buhari if we must be factual
Re: Who Caused The Insecurity In The Southeast? by McStoic(m): 11:43pm On Jun 10
MalcoImX:
Propaganda.

Have Fulani not lived with you for hundreds of years, why the spike in hate now?

You are very very mischievous and evil
Re: Who Caused The Insecurity In The Southeast? by History555: 11:44pm On Jun 10
ygowon:
You know how civilized the Igbos are. They don't like cheating and hate to be cheated and they don't cause trouble. But you Fulani will go to people's houses at night to kill and burn their houses. Why won't they be hated by other tribes of Nigeria?

The person you are quoting is yoruba who sees nothing wrong in yorubas defending their land against fulani but sees so many wrongs if lgbos do so
Re: Who Caused The Insecurity In The Southeast? by veeceesynergy: 12:05am On Jun 11
OP, Continue deceiving urself, don't tell urself d truth.

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Re: Who Caused The Insecurity In The Southeast? by ygowon: 1:50pm On Jun 11
aniomadei1975:


NNAMDI KANU IN 2014. WHY WAS HE PARADING WITH GUNMEN IN 2014?
Parading with gunmen in 2014 and if I ask, did insecurity in the southeast start in 2014? You see how foolishly you people reason and defend? The same way Buhari was answering off points to questions.

Incase u don't know. Nnamdi Kanu has foresight. He knew the plans of the fulanis and that was why he was getting ready for them. If the Fulani terrorists didn't come to the southeast, there wouldn't have been the need to defend the region which brought about the I security
Re: Who Caused The Insecurity In The Southeast? by ygowon: 1:53pm On Jun 11
veeceesynergy:
OP, Continue deceiving urself, don't tell urself d truth.
The truth is that the causes of the insecurity in the southeast are
1. Fulani herdsmen terrorists
2. FG
3. State government.

IPOB has the right to defend their land when the police and army could not protect them and the governors were not active. Sending the army and police to attack IPOB was wrong. They should have sent them to attack the herdsmen instead.
Re: Who Caused The Insecurity In The Southeast? by ablejesus26(m): 1:56pm On Jun 11
Oga op we are at a time when ya all should stop all this ipob sectionalism and agenda.
If the said mnk is of a plain mind why then was he threaning Igbos who choose to defend their fathers land by joining the Ebubeagwu.
Quit trying to bring mischief into Igboland.
The ohaneze has charged everyone who has the capacity to input in tackling this barbaric Invaders to come on board.
He also mentioned esn on the list.

Btw if esn had been accepted as the regional security outfit for Igboland,it will be sending the message that we are being ruled by ipob a proscribed group of outlaws.
Re: Who Caused The Insecurity In The Southeast? by DerideGull(m): 1:57pm On Jun 11
Gowon!!!!!!!!!!!!
Re: Who Caused The Insecurity In The Southeast? by ablejesus26(m): 2:02pm On Jun 11
The esn was not created to fight against fulani killers,but rather to do this 2 major things.
1.Attack security formations in the Igboland.
2. To intimate Igbos who choose not to support mnk and his ipob with their call for self destruct.

We are not under the ruling of mnk and his group of outlaws for them to sit in their meeting and create anything for Igboland.
Who and who was represented in the Esn creation?.
Or is ipob now a government in the SE that they will create and impose their militia on Igboland??.

The major concern for now should be how the ohaneze and SE leaders can get amnesty for the Esn so they can be reinstated into the SE internal security system.
Re: Who Caused The Insecurity In The Southeast? by ygowon: 2:13pm On Jun 11
ablejesus26:
Oga op we are at a time when ya all should stop all this ipob sectionalism and agenda.
If the said mnk is of a plain mind why then was he threaning Igbos who choose to defend their fathers land by joining the Ebubeagwu.
Quit trying to bring mischief into Igboland.
The ohaneze has charged everyone who has the capacity to input in tackling this barbaric Invaders to come on board.
He also mentioned esn on the list.

Btw if esn had been accepted as the regional security outfit for Igboland,it will be sending the message that we are being ruled by ipob a proscribed group of outlaws.
Ask your governors why they didn't create ebubeagu on time. Incase u don't know, ebubeagu is useless when ESN is already doing the job. The governors should have defended the ESN and consolidated them but no, they have no balls. They are afraid of Aso rock.
Why would a sensible igbo person join ebubeagu that was setup to counter ESN? You don't know anything?
Ipob proscribed and you feel it is right? Why is Fulani militias the fourth most dangerous terror group in the world where as Ipob is not there and the Fulani herdsmen is not proscribed? Use your sense please.
Re: Who Caused The Insecurity In The Southeast? by ygowon: 2:16pm On Jun 11
ablejesus26:
The esn was not created to fight against fulani killers,but rather to do this 2 major things.
1.Attack security formations in the Igboland.
2. To intimate Igbos who choose not to support mnk and his ipob with their call for self destruct.

We are not under the ruling of mnk and his group of outlaws for them to sit in their meeting and create anything for Igboland.
Who and who was represented in the Esn creation?.
Or is ipob now a government in the SE that they will create and impose their militia on Igboland??.

The major concern for now should be how the ohaneze and SE leaders can get amnesty for the Esn so they can be reinstated into the SE internal security system.
You are daft
Re: Who Caused The Insecurity In The Southeast? by ablejesus26(m): 2:26pm On Jun 11
ygowon:
Ask your governors why they didn't create ebubeagu on time. Incase u don't know, ebubeagu is useless when ESN is already doing the job. The governors should have defended the ESN and consolidated them but no, they have no balls. They are afraid of Aso rock.
Why would a sensible igbo person join ebubeagu that was setup to counter ESN? You don't know anything?
Ipob proscribed and you feel it is right? Why is Fulani militias the fourth most dangerous terror group in the world where as Ipob is not there and the Fulani herdsmen is not proscribed? Use your sense please.

You are a mischief maker.
The Esn is a militant group,they were not created for Igbos but for ipob and mnk's personal agenda.
Let me tell you the major reason why the Ebubeagwu was not created on time.
There was an argument sponsored by Umahi that all states should build up their security system to champion the course of state policing.
The proscription of ipob was not justified, but of recent they are doing things to justify it.
How can a group create a militia and tag it the regional security outfit for the whole region.
Where is such a thing done??.

My take is if the SE leaders can get amnesty for the militant esn and have them reinstated into the internal security in Igboland,good and fine.

We have a process of doing things in Igboland.
We are democratic,one group can't make decisions for everyone.

If mnk had good intentions he would have used his influence to stage a protest against the SE leaders to create the Ebubeagwu on time.
But no he wants to appear as the egocentric dictator and generalissimo.
Re: Who Caused The Insecurity In The Southeast? by ygowon: 2:33pm On Jun 11
ablejesus26:


You are a mischief maker.
The Esn is a militant group,they were not created for Igbos but for ipob and mnk's personal agenda.
Let me tell you the major reason why the Ebubeagwu was not created on time.
There was an argument sponsored by Umahi that all states should build up their security system to champion the course of state policing.
The proscription of ipob was not justified, but of recent they are doing things to justify it.
How can a group create a militia and tag it the regional security outfit for the whole region.
Where is such a thing done??.

My take is if the SE leaders can get amnesty for the militant esn and have them reinstated into the internal security in Igboland,good and fine.

We have a process of doing things in Igboland.
We are democratic,one group can't make decisions for everyone.

If mnk had good intentions he would have used his influence to stage a protest against the SE leaders to create the Ebubeagwu on time.
But no he wants to appear as the egocentric dictator and generalissimo.
After ESN was launched, who first attacked each other? And mind you that the unknown gunmen is under Biafra revolutionary force and not Ipob www.biafrarf.com

So, go back to the history of how everything happened and tell me who started the attack first. ESN should not defend themselves from the police and military because Ipob is proscribed only in Nigeria? Chai!
Re: Who Caused The Insecurity In The Southeast? by ablejesus26(m): 2:39pm On Jun 11
ygowon:
After ESN was launched, who first attacked each other? And mind you that the unknown gunmen is under Biafra revolutionary force and not Ipob www.biafrarf.com

So, go back to the history of how everything happened and tell me who started the attack first. ESN should not defend themselves from the police and military because Ipob is proscribed only in Nigeria? Chai!

Bia nwokem I am not the over emotional type.
I play along with the realities on ground,and reality is as a proscribed group of outlaws once you pick up arms you are bound to have confrontations with the fg.
Everywhere in this world the Fg fights against militancy.
Or do you think the Fg army were dancing skelewu with the Niger Delta militants.?.

Forget about all this ipob talks and palaver, if there is a way the SE leaders can get amnesty for the Esn militants good.

The ohaneze are on the issue let's wait and see the outcome.
Re: Who Caused The Insecurity In The Southeast? by ygowon: 2:46pm On Jun 11
ablejesus26:


Bia nwokem I am not the over emotional type.
I play along with the realities on ground,and reality is as a proscribed group of outlaws once you pick up arms you are bound to have confrontations with the fg.
Everywhere in this world the Fg fights against militancy.
Or do you think the Fg army were dancing skelewu with the Niger Delta militants.?.

Forget about all this ipob talks and palaver, if there is a way the SE leaders can get amnesty for the Esn militants good.

The ohaneze are on the issue let's wait and see the outcome.
Well, since you cannot answer the question, keep off. Ipob did the right thing to pick up arm to defend the people since the state governors could not. Blame the FG who have ulterior motive
Re: Who Caused The Insecurity In The Southeast? by ablejesus26(m): 2:54pm On Jun 11
ygowon:
Well, since you cannot answer the question, keep off. Ipob did the right thing to pick up arm to defend the people since the state governors could not. Blame the FG who have ulterior motive

I have answered your question.
Ipob didn't create esn to defend anyone but themselves and their destructive leader with his dictatorship agenda.

The Esn was created to attack govt facility and intimidate Igbos who will not be brainwashed to bowing and supporting the fraudster with his personal business venture.
Hence we see his constant threats.
He threatned the young men in the Onisha security vigilante.
He threatned the Ebubeagwu.
He threatens and makes himself look like a generalissimo,this traits are anti Igbo.
Re: Who Caused The Insecurity In The Southeast? by ygowon: 3:13pm On Jun 11
ablejesus26:


I have answered your question.
Ipob didn't create esn to defend anyone but themselves and their destructive leader with his dictatorship agenda.

The Esn was created to attack govt facility and intimidate Igbos who will not be brainwashed to bowing and supporting the fraudster with his personal business venture.
Hence we see his constant threats.
He threatned the young men in the Onisha security vigilante.
He threatned the Ebubeagwu.
He threatens and makes himself look like a generalissimo,this traits are anti Igbo.
You haven't answered it and if u can't answer it, close your dirty keypad.

The question is, who started the attack between ESN and the Nigerian security?
Re: Who Caused The Insecurity In The Southeast? by ablejesus26(m): 3:24pm On Jun 11
ygowon:
You haven't answered it and if u can't answer it, close your dirty keypad.

The question is, who started the attack between ESN and the Nigerian security?

What other ans do you seek.
The Fg of every country in every part of this world fights against militancy.
The Fg Army and the Niger Delta militants were not playing tinko tinko.

You create a militant sect and expect not to get confrontations with the govt.
Is that not madness and stupidity??.
Re: Who Caused The Insecurity In The Southeast? by ygowon: 3:29pm On Jun 11
ablejesus26:


What other ans do you seek.
The Fg of every country in every part of this world fights against militancy.
The Fg Army and the Niger Delta militants were not playing tinko tinko.

You create a militant sect and expect not to get confrontations with the govt.
Is that not madness and stupidity??.
You are not in your right sense if you can't answer a simple question.

Fulani herdsmen is killing people and the FG army refused to confront the fulani herdsmen.
The people decided to protect themselves by confronting the Fulani herdsmen themselves and the FG decided to confront the people defending themselves? Who do you blame?

Incase you don't know. If the government fails to play it's role for any region, the region finds a way to play that role. Since the army does not serve the interests of the people, the people go with who serves their interest. In this case, ESN.

Please, go borrow brain
Re: Who Caused The Insecurity In The Southeast? by jude79(m): 3:38pm On Jun 11
ablejesus26:


Bia nwokem I am not the over emotional type.
I play along with the realities on ground,and reality is as a proscribed group of outlaws once you pick up arms you are bound to have confrontations with the fg.
Everywhere in this world the Fg fights against militancy.
Or do you think the Fg army were dancing skelewu with the Niger Delta militants.?.

Forget about all this ipob talks and palaver, if there is a way the SE leaders can get amnesty for the Esn militants good.

The ohaneze are on the issue let's wait and see the outcome.

1)"reality is as a proscribed group of outlaws" 2 "once you pick up arms you" 3) " you are bound to have confrontations with the fg"
In other words you just proved that they were proscribed as terrorist organization before the took up arms, as you quoted, that is quite interesting, and ehh thanks for the information. From the proofs above we should redefine terrorist organization. From a hypocritical Nigerian point of view, as an organization that protest peacefully against the government for marginalizing any section of country that is hated by the presiding head of that country. Now able Jesus, you can clap for yourself.
Re: Who Caused The Insecurity In The Southeast? by ablejesus26(m): 7:02pm On Jun 11
ygowon:
You are not in your right sense if you can't answer a simple question.

Fulani herdsmen is killing people and the FG army refused to confront the fulani herdsmen.
The people decided to protect themselves by confronting the Fulani herdsmen themselves and the FG decided to confront the people defending themselves? Who do you blame?

Incase you don't know. If the government fails to play it's role for any region, the region finds a way to play that role. Since the army does not serve the interests of the people, the people go with who serves their interest. In this case, ESN.

Please, go borrow brain

You are too brainwashed to reason like a human being ��.
I was never in support of the proscription in the first place,but as at now I would support it.
All ipob has to offer now is trouble upon trouble for a struggle that reeks of fraud.
I answered your question but your full brain is still asking for ans.
The Fg attacked the militant esn bcus that's what any govt in the World will do.

In IMO there has never been a time when we had this high level of unrest,it all started when one man brought his militant into our midst with the disguise of fighting fulani.
Re: Who Caused The Insecurity In The Southeast? by ygowon: 7:11pm On Jun 11
ablejesus26:


You are too brainwashed to reason like a human being ��.
I was never in support of the proscription in the first place,but as at now I would support it.
All ipob has to offer now is trouble upon trouble for a struggle that reeks of fraud.
I answered your question but your full brain is still asking for ans.
The Fg attacked the militant esn bcus that's what any govt in the World will do.

In IMO there has never been a time when we had this high level of unrest,it all started when one man brought his militant into our midst with the disguise of fighting fulani.
The Fg attacked the militant esn bcus that's what any govt in the World will do. Why didn't they attack the fulani herdsmen who started the killings as well?
And who cares if you support the proscription of ipob or not?
You are blaming ipob for defending themselves and supporting FG for attacking ipob who was doing their job of protecting the people. Does that not tell you that the FG is in support of the fulani herdsmen? So, you will support the FG to kill all your people all in the name of good citizen who wants peace? You be complete idi0t.

That peace you are trying to maintain will get to a level and vanish because by then, all those who are supposed to fight for you will have been killed and you will face reality when you are being treated as a slave.
Re: Who Caused The Insecurity In The Southeast? by ablejesus26(m): 7:24pm On Jun 11
ygowon:

The Fg attacked the militant esn bcus that's what any govt in the World will do. Why didn't they attack the fulani herdsmen who started the killings as well?
And who cares if you support the proscription of ipob or not?
You are blaming ipob for defending themselves and supporting FG for attacking ipob who was doing their job of protecting the people. Does that not tell you that the FG is in support of the fulani herdsmen? So, you will support the FG to kill all your people all in the name of good citizen who wants peace? You be complete idi0t.

That peace you are trying to maintain will get to a level and vanish because by then, all those who are supposed to fight for you will have been killed and you will face reality when you are being treated as a slave.

You are a very useless brainwashed human being.
I don't support the Fg I only pointed out why the militant esn was attacked.

Like I said if the ohaneze can get amnesty for the Esn and reinstall them into the internal security in Igboland, fine.

It's stupidity that's making you think that fraudster with his group of brainwashed thugs are fighting for anything other than his pocket.
I am done with you.
Re: Who Caused The Insecurity In The Southeast? by ygowon: 7:36pm On Jun 11
ablejesus26:

You are a very useless brainwashed human being.
I don't support the Fg I only pointed out why the militant esn was attacked.

Like I said if the ohaneze can get amnesty for the Esn and reinstall them into the internal security in Igboland, fine.

It's stupidity that's making you think that fraudster with his group of brainwashed thugs are fighting for anything other than his pocket.
I am done with you.
You supporters of Buhari all reason alike. Ask them simple question, they beat around the bush. All the buhari supporters are supposed to be in one country abeg. Which kind punishment nature give person so?

You are done with me because I keep giving you points as e dey hot.

You better get sense oo.

hahahaha! He is suggesting that Ohaneze gets amnesty for ESN hahahaha! Do you know the implication of what you are suggesting? You want ESN and IPOB to enter agreement with Nigeria to seize their agitation and surrender and the igbos will become a perpetual slave region? NEVER! I doubt if you are igbo as you claim cos your reasoning is not of an igbo person.

I don't expect you to quote me again cos you don't have the intellectual capacity to engage me.

See sense here https://www.nairaland.com/6598567/apostle-suleman-warns-buhari-threatens
Re: Who Caused The Insecurity In The Southeast? by ablejesus26(m): 7:55pm On Jun 11
ygowon:
You supporters of Buhari all reason alike. Ask them simple question, they beat around the bush. All the buhari supporters are supposed to be in one country abeg. Which kind punishment nature give person so?

You are done with me because I keep giving you points as e dey hot.

You better get sense oo.

hahahaha! He is suggesting that Ohaneze gets amnesty for ESN hahahaha! Do you know the implication of what you are suggesting? You want ESN and IPOB to enter agreement with Nigeria to seize their agitation and surrender and the igbos will become a perpetual slave region? NEVER! I doubt if you are igbo as you claim cos your reasoning is not of an igbo person.

I don't expect you to quote me again cos you don't have the intellectual capacity to engage me.

See sense here https://www.nairaland.com/6598567/apostle-suleman-warns-buhari-threatens

I have no business with the symbol of failure called bubu, but that doesn't mean I should be brainwashed to follow someone without thinking.
You have no business with intelligence ��.
Dilutional jagons is all you have to profer ��.
Re: Who Caused The Insecurity In The Southeast? by jude79(m): 2:09pm On Jun 12
ablejesus26:


I have no business with the symbol of failure called bubu, but that doesn't mean I should be brainwashed to follow someone without thinking.
You have no business with intelligence ��.
Dilutional jagons is all you have to profer ��.




You have no business with bubu, but supports every evil action he takes against a tribe he hates. And whenever they try to protect themselves, you admonish them for daring, because you believe they are brainwashed.
Hmm, your not brainwashed abi, as in, you believe you are smarter than them, yet your actions are completely different from what you think you believe in. Those of you who believe they were smarter than Igboes in 2015, where are you now? You plant corn and expect to reap beans, and still end up calling yourselves smart and sophisticated, your smarter and more sophisticated than the people that had to score hirer marks to enter federal schools or they will take the whole slot, your smartness only operates where equilibrium doesn't exist, where illiterates control the polity, but in the smart world, you can't compete. Nonsense smartness. SMH!!!
Re: Who Caused The Insecurity In The Southeast? by ygowon: 2:16pm On Jun 12
Please don't give that f00l attention. He doesn't deserve it
jude79:



You have no business with bubu, but supports every evil action he takes against a tribe he hates. And whenever they try to protect themselves, you admonish them for daring, because you believe they are brainwashed
Hmm, your not brainwashed, abi, as in, you believe you are smarter than them, yet your actions are completely different from what you think you believe in. Those of you who believe they were smarter than Igboes in 2015, where are you now? You plant corn and expect to reap beans, and still end up calling yourselves smart and sophisticated. SMH!!!

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