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@ezniteadin
What can i say? not sure the 'dl members' would come to speak on behalfs, so let me sort of input one or two things/Open thy mouth for the dumb as it were. If it were some other popular church(es), i guess they wouldn't have/need this sort of speak on behalf. Firstly, i think it's wrong avenue for you to address issues with them, i'm sure you know the road to their church office or headquarters, except you just want to incite ridicule and unbelief here. You're not a member of that church, what you should do is meet the church leadership itself or meet God i.e pray, intercede for them. there's nothing prayer cannot do, coming here to complain about perceived lost glory is not the best. Every church has a similar story and need our earnest prayers, not criticisms and discouragements.

KunleOshob:

@frosbel

I beg to differ their holiness 'doctrine' is hypocritical and they discriminate against christians that are not their members.

Ezniteadin:

I later grew to experience decay, a hardness of heart, Hypocrisy and idolatry, I saw how the devil penetrated the pulpit and made men so deceived to jostle for position, I saw human worship, (Idolatry) arrogance, like in many places I saw fight, I saw cessation, I saw rivalry, I witness an authoritarian style of leadership, and I wonder with much pains at what man can suddenly become.

Ezniteadin: I used to attend Deeper-Life, I can say without Mincing words since 1979, at that time, I was Just 7 Years old. Then W. F Kumuyi was running the Bible Study From Oyingbo in Lagos, most people were really Ignorant of the Bible and so was I, what do you expect from a 7years old Child who was at the time under the care of an Illiterate mother who had become so fascinated by the new Christian Life taught by Deeper Life and compared to the Aladuara Congregation where the Husband was then a pastor, She was converted by the Conviction of the Holy Ghost after mocking a woman who was Preaching in a “Molue” Bus in Lagos, According to her testimony, she got back home and was pricked, a thought kept ringing in her mind that “You are on your way to Hell” she said for what “Laughing”? she recalled, and was under a severe torture until she went to a sister around town who already knew what it meant to be born again, The Sister who was at the time a nurse, Led her to the Lord after ministering salvation message to her and she became Born again. She put so many things behind her after Being Born again,
There was an obvious transformation in the life of my mother who used to be a troublesome woman in the community, there was a story before her conversion, how she fought two men on a boat where she was then selling “Filling Sand” and her mien was intimidating for any man to dare talk less of a woman, Mum after conversion was as gentle as a lamb, she would hardly respond to anyone who tickle her for some kind of trouble, She was not educated, but for her interest in the thing of God, She learned to read the Bible through a miraculous teaching by God. In those days of her ministerial life, I remembered that she eventually started the Yoruba “House Fellowship” with some strong members In the Area where she was living at the time, she led some Muslim Sisters to the Lord Jesus and several of unsaved people in her community, One of the Muslim sister is presently a mighty minister of the Gospel.
Because of the evident power of God manifested in her life, Parents who were fearful of the pronouncement of death on their Children came to our house and were prayed for by mum and their kids will live, she prayed for the sick and they recovered, our last born was restored back to life by her prayers after being dead and a lady who was attacked by witchcraft was prayed for and a head that was turned backward against nature returned to normal through the Power of prayer and faith in the name of Jesus. There were lots of miracle and evidence of God’s presence in our house.
I was a stubborn child growing up like some other kids, there was a particular case of theft which I remembered committed by me and when asked, I denied it, but mum just looked all her kids in the face and said, “The Lord will reveal it” That was all she said and we went about our business. In the Night of that incident she woke us all up and called me, she started to narrate the incident and how I entered the house and took the item, she narrated it to the point of telling what dropped when the act was commuted, I started to cry, I was shocked because I was sure that I was the only one at home when the crime was done, I wondered how she got wind of it. God showed up that night in a dream and told my mother everything and how it went.
That was the last time for lies as far as relating with my mum was concerned
There were several testimonies of God’s power in the lives of people who sincerely gave their lives to the lord Jesus
There was a lot of love at the time, Christian were Christians and the marks (Fruit) were evident by a genuine conversation, PA Josiah Akindayomi was still alive and Redeem had countable Churches in the city of Lagos, we were confined to Deeper Life Teachings and prayer, I grew up to be fascinated by W. F Kumuyi’s insight into scriptural truths at the time, I was young but had an open mind for good guiding information, the only one I was exposed to was that of Deeper Life until I started on my own to find out other sources of explanation to Christianity.
It was the days when lots of influences were coming into Nigeria from the outside world, some people believed they can get the attention of God by Living “Holy”, others are of the opinion that “Praise Worship” is the style of bringing down the glory of God, there were those who chose to be “International” neglecting their originality, so you will find someone who copies American preachers who were constantly selling idea to upcoming preachers, There were “Kenneth Haggin” who majored on Faith, Benny Hinns, whose Operation was the Miraculous, “Shamback” and a host of others. The influences were more
The Bible was a Yardstick of measuring anyone, But I realized that people have different insight to the truth in the Bible. Looking back now, there are many things that can drive a man into the Ministry (God’s work) when a man is driven by sincerity, it pays better, he might make mistakes because we do not know it all, yet sincerity will help him to find his feet and will drive him to correcting the mistakes.
Deeper Life focused on Righteousness and Holiness at that time, the impact was so much that as soon as an individual becomes a member of Deeper Life, He or she is marked by certain Do’s and don’ts, “we would not do this, we would not do that,” and so many things that marked members of deeper life out in the crowd, the lifestyle were offensive to so many people, some of the members were denied of certain rights others deny themselves so as to please God. W.F kumuyi’s messages were compelling and so were the messages of all his comrades, the Likes of Steven Akionla, Alfred Itiowe, Shafe, Ransom Bello, A.O Itiola, Lawon, Isaac Ijalano, Amatare, and a host of others. These men were bonded by same spirit and there was no contradictions whatsoever in their messages, they presented God’s word with different approach yet they achieve same purpose in the minds of the hearers,
There were not too many Churches at the time, Pastor Enoch Adeboye was at most of the time an Interpreter to Pa Josiah Akindayomi, founder of Redeem Christian Church of God. Baba was a father to Both W.F Kumuyi and E. A Adeboye, who were both Lecturers at different times in University of Lagos.
By Mid 70’s and early 80’s the interest for the Teaching of God’s word was really high and the approach of Kumuyi was uncommon in most assembly, so, People left their congregation and places of worship and attended Bible study in “Deeper Christian Life Ministry” (DCLM) I recalled, that my Father who was a pastor of a Local assembly would also visit the church in Oyingbo and I discovered several Old Bible Study outline of deeper life in his library with several bible commentaries, Although he was sneaking to the study, he was not confortable with the idea of my mother attending a church other than His, so he Visited Kumuyi in the 70’s and requested that He (Kumuyi) should drive my mother out of His Church, But Brother Kumuyi for so was he called at the time, said, He cannot take the decision of driving anyone who has interest in the word of God, There were fights that we (Children) witnessed at home over the matter and until my father was on his sick bed and he realized he was going to die, That was when he called my mum to straightened things with her, I can say that Mum was not entirely faultless in the whole saga, both in reaction and the broils at home; but all this form an opinion of what life and relationship should be in the mind of a growing child
I observed that it was impossible to be hypocritical at the time, maybe because I was a child learning, Christianity was not Just at the time by “Outward appearance” it was from inward and it affected the outward, You do not need to be told that a passerby on your street was a Christian, it was very obvious, by the fruits they bore, they were like weak, feeble being, they will not revenge, they are always sober, and you can see an inward Peace within them, because they are not troubled by circumstance, there is a peace that you cannot explain and it steers at you.
I am amazed that at the time, people who ere are willing to make confession and start all over again, you will find Leaders who when they fail, will without compelling, report themselves to the church and are afterwards relieved of all spiritual activities and they will gladly go and pray.
I personally encountered the saving power of God at a programme organized by “I suspect” Four square Gospel Church as a little boy, it was the first time I ever understood what it meant to escape the Judgment of God by accepting God’s solution offered by Jesus Christ. I repented and follow the lord (still following) but I was no longer confined to deeper Life, although I learned the Christian teaching in deeper Life and understood certain truth in Deeper Life, even participated as a DLSO Instructor

But that was then,
I later grew to experience decay, a hardness of heart, Hypocrisy and idolatry, I saw how the devil penetrated the pulpit and made men so deceived to jostle for position, I saw human worship, (Idolatry) arrogance, like in many places I saw fight, I saw cessation, I saw rivalry, I witness an authoritarian style of leadership, and I wonder with much pains at what man can suddenly become.
I have personally experienced backsliding in my own relationship with God, But God hunted me in love and helped me in finding my way back
It is common Knowledge that Satan fights any work of God to destroy it, but the point is
How did we become so undiscerning? How did we begin a walk in the spirit and are almost at the edge in the flesh, I am not so surprised, when we stop to pray as we ought, both Personally and as a congregation, we are near defeat, I was shocked when I heard that and order was given to stop “Prayer Warrior” I can remember how Bro Akande, was Championing the course at the car park in those days. I think we became too fearful for error or the Devil, that we allowed him to suggest ways of checking his influence.
I was shocked when Prayer meetings were disbanded, I know that people will go their own ways, but the work of the ministry does not lie solely in the hands of one man.
Today, it is more shocking how we think we can win a soul into the kingdom without first wetting the soul on our knees, an example which Jesus himself displayed many times (secretly) we have become monotonous, dolling out ordinary words not backed up by Prayer.
I must confess that the huge impact of Deeper life in our country and the world cannot be denied, Pastor Kumuyi has labored immensely entering countries of the world from continent to continent after his appearance on Monday Bible study in Lagos. He has touched several lives, but for his insight into scripture, a lot of us would have worshiped God with some level of error and maybe worshiped men also.
W. F Kumuyi has affected several Churches and their founders, You can name them, I know so many churches that broke into factions as a result of the impact derived from Deeper Life. This is good for the Church to spread the gospel. Although several did not see any reason to continue like deeper life, others imported errors into their congregation deceiving the young undiscerning youths but the truth is they became mouthpiece for the Lord Jesus in several community
He is known for teaching, however, some of the Generals around Pastor Kumuyi, were not Teacher, there were Prophets amongst them, there were Evangelist, there were several people who also have the ministry but were handicapped by the Fear and Unwritten rules drawn in the heart
If Jesus Tarries, I pray Deeper life will produce more and more little Kumuyi’s and many more Jesus who would understand the workings of God and know the mind of Christ for the Church, not necessarily amongst some present anxious men who are waiting to be named as General Overseer, and desperate men who have no connection with the Holy spirit yet are willing to hold on to title.

After the Death of Sist, Biodun Kumuyi I watched the trend of Idolatry, how the Picture of a dead woman become very important to us as to display it on a Deeper Life website, How suddenly Bro/Pastor Kumuyi is being referred to as Daddy. I am not against calling an elderly person daddy, But I see the importation of a trend that was personally resisted in the days of consecrations
My prayers are that Jesus should Prepare his Church for the RAPTURE, I am sure it will not be long from now, we have become cold and lethargic. I have so many things on my mind on the issues raised but maybe I should listen to the reaction of mature Christian on these pages since I have no place order than here to remind us of what we used to be. I sure, I will find someone to tell me that, That is what I used to be, You are right. Just pray along with me as I come out from this great pain of my coldness and weakness in following my Lord

Ezniteadin: I used to attend Deeper-Life, I can say without Mincing words since 1979, at that time, I was Just 7 Years old. Then W. F Kumuyi was running the Bible Study From Oyingbo in Lagos, most people were really Ignorant of the Bible and so was I, what do you expect from a 7years old Child who was at the time under the care of an Illiterate mother who had become so fascinated by the new Christian Life taught by Deeper Life and compared to the Aladuara Congregation where the Husband was then a pastor, She was converted by the Conviction of the Holy Ghost after mocking a woman who was Preaching in a “Molue” Bus in Lagos, According to her testimony, she got back home and was pricked, a thought kept ringing in her mind that “You are on your way to Hell” she said for what “Laughing”? she recalled, and was under a severe torture until she went to a sister around town who already knew what it meant to be born again, The Sister who was at the time a nurse, Led her to the Lord after ministering salvation message to her and she became Born again. She put so many things behind her after Being Born again,
There was an obvious transformation in the life of my mother who used to be a troublesome woman in the community, there was a story before her conversion, how she fought two men on a boat where she was then selling “Filling Sand” and her mien was intimidating for any man to dare talk less of a woman, Mum after conversion was as gentle as a lamb, she would hardly respond to anyone who tickle her for some kind of trouble, She was not educated, but for her interest in the thing of God, She learned to read the Bible through a miraculous teaching by God. In those days of her ministerial life, I remembered that she eventually started the Yoruba “House Fellowship” with some strong members In the Area where she was living at the time, she led some Muslim Sisters to the Lord Jesus and several of unsaved people in her community, One of the Muslim sister is presently a mighty minister of the Gospel.
Because of the evident power of God manifested in her life, Parents who were fearful of the pronouncement of death on their Children came to our house and were prayed for by mum and their kids will live, she prayed for the sick and they recovered, our last born was restored back to life by her prayers after being dead and a lady who was attacked by witchcraft was prayed for and a head that was turned backward against nature returned to normal through the Power of prayer and faith in the name of Jesus. There were lots of miracle and evidence of God’s presence in our house.
I was a stubborn child growing up like some other kids, there was a particular case of theft which I remembered committed by me and when asked, I denied it, but mum just looked all her kids in the face and said, “The Lord will reveal it” That was all she said and we went about our business. In the Night of that incident she woke us all up and called me, she started to narrate the incident and how I entered the house and took the item, she narrated it to the point of telling what dropped when the act was commuted, I started to cry, I was shocked because I was sure that I was the only one at home when the crime was done, I wondered how she got wind of it. God showed up that night in a dream and told my mother everything and how it went.
That was the last time for lies as far as relating with my mum was concerned
There were several testimonies of God’s power in the lives of people who sincerely gave their lives to the lord Jesus
There was a lot of love at the time, Christian were Christians and the marks (Fruit) were evident by a genuine conversation, PA Josiah Akindayomi was still alive and Redeem had countable Churches in the city of Lagos, we were confined to Deeper Life Teachings and prayer, I grew up to be fascinated by W. F Kumuyi’s insight into scriptural truths at the time, I was young but had an open mind for good guiding information, the only one I was exposed to was that of Deeper Life until I started on my own to find out other sources of explanation to Christianity.
It was the days when lots of influences were coming into Nigeria from the outside world, some people believed they can get the attention of God by Living “Holy”, others are of the opinion that “Praise Worship” is the style of bringing down the glory of God, there were those who chose to be “International” neglecting their originality, so you will find someone who copies American preachers who were constantly selling idea to upcoming preachers, There were “Kenneth Haggin” who majored on Faith, Benny Hinns, whose Operation was the Miraculous, “Shamback” and a host of others. The influences were more
The Bible was a Yardstick of measuring anyone, But I realized that people have different insight to the truth in the Bible. Looking back now, there are many things that can drive a man into the Ministry (God’s work) when a man is driven by sincerity, it pays better, he might make mistakes because we do not know it all, yet sincerity will help him to find his feet and will drive him to correcting the mistakes.
Deeper Life focused on Righteousness and Holiness at that time, the impact was so much that as soon as an individual becomes a member of Deeper Life, He or she is marked by certain Do’s and don’ts, “we would not do this, we would not do that,” and so many things that marked members of deeper life out in the crowd, the lifestyle were offensive to so many people, some of the members were denied of certain rights others deny themselves so as to please God. W.F kumuyi’s messages were compelling and so were the messages of all his comrades, the Likes of Steven Akionla, Alfred Itiowe, Shafe, Ransom Bello, A.O Itiola, Lawon, Isaac Ijalano, Amatare, and a host of others. These men were bonded by same spirit and there was no contradictions whatsoever in their messages, they presented God’s word with different approach yet they achieve same purpose in the minds of the hearers,
There were not too many Churches at the time, Pastor Enoch Adeboye was at most of the time an Interpreter to Pa Josiah Akindayomi, founder of Redeem Christian Church of God. Baba was a father to Both W.F Kumuyi and E. A Adeboye, who were both Lecturers at different times in University of Lagos.
By Mid 70’s and early 80’s the interest for the Teaching of God’s word was really high and the approach of Kumuyi was uncommon in most assembly, so, People left their congregation and places of worship and attended Bible study in “Deeper Christian Life Ministry” (DCLM) I recalled, that my Father who was a pastor of a Local assembly would also visit the church in Oyingbo and I discovered several Old Bible Study outline of deeper life in his library with several bible commentaries, Although he was sneaking to the study, he was not confortable with the idea of my mother attending a church other than His, so he Visited Kumuyi in the 70’s and requested that He (Kumuyi) should drive my mother out of His Church, But Brother Kumuyi for so was he called at the time, said, He cannot take the decision of driving anyone who has interest in the word of God, There were fights that we (Children) witnessed at home over the matter and until my father was on his sick bed and he realized he was going to die, That was when he called my mum to straightened things with her, I can say that Mum was not entirely faultless in the whole saga, both in reaction and the broils at home; but all this form an opinion of what life and relationship should be in the mind of a growing child
I observed that it was impossible to be hypocritical at the time, maybe because I was a child learning, Christianity was not Just at the time by “Outward appearance” it was from inward and it affected the outward, You do not need to be told that a passerby on your street was a Christian, it was very obvious, by the fruits they bore, they were like weak, feeble being, they will not revenge, they are always sober, and you can see an inward Peace within them, because they are not troubled by circumstance, there is a peace that you cannot explain and it steers at you.
I am amazed that at the time, people who ere are willing to make confession and start all over again, you will find Leaders who when they fail, will without compelling, report themselves to the church and are afterwards relieved of all spiritual activities and they will gladly go and pray.
I personally encountered the saving power of God at a programme organized by “I suspect” Four square Gospel Church as a little boy, it was the first time I ever understood what it meant to escape the Judgment of God by accepting God’s solution offered by Jesus Christ. I repented and follow the lord (still following) but I was no longer confined to deeper Life, although I learned the Christian teaching in deeper Life and understood certain truth in Deeper Life, even participated as a DLSO Instructor

But that was then,
I later grew to experience decay, a hardness of heart, Hypocrisy and idolatry, I saw how the devil penetrated the pulpit and made men so deceived to jostle for position, I saw human worship, (Idolatry) arrogance, like in many places I saw fight, I saw cessation, I saw rivalry, I witness an authoritarian style of leadership, and I wonder with much pains at what man can suddenly become.
I have personally experienced backsliding in my own relationship with God, But God hunted me in love and helped me in finding my way back
It is common Knowledge that Satan fights any work of God to destroy it, but the point is
How did we become so undiscerning? How did we begin a walk in the spirit and are almost at the edge in the flesh, I am not so surprised, when we stop to pray as we ought, both Personally and as a congregation, we are near defeat, I was shocked when I heard that and order was given to stop “Prayer Warrior” I can remember how Bro Akande, was Championing the course at the car park in those days. I think we became too fearful for error or the Devil, that we allowed him to suggest ways of checking his influence.
I was shocked when Prayer meetings were disbanded, I know that people will go their own ways, but the work of the ministry does not lie solely in the hands of one man.
Today, it is more shocking how we think we can win a soul into the kingdom without first wetting the soul on our knees, an example which Jesus himself displayed many times (secretly) we have become monotonous, dolling out ordinary words not backed up by Prayer.
I must confess that the huge impact of Deeper life in our country and the world cannot be denied, Pastor Kumuyi has labored immensely entering countries of the world from continent to continent after his appearance on Monday Bible study in Lagos. He has touched several lives, but for his insight into scripture, a lot of us would have worshiped God with some level of error and maybe worshiped men also.
W. F Kumuyi has affected several Churches and their founders, You can name them, I know so many churches that broke into factions as a result of the impact derived from Deeper Life. This is good for the Church to spread the gospel. Although several did not see any reason to continue like deeper life, others imported errors into their congregation deceiving the young undiscerning youths but the truth is they became mouthpiece for the Lord Jesus in several community
He is known for teaching, however, some of the Generals around Pastor Kumuyi, were not Teacher, there were Prophets amongst them, there were Evangelist, there were several people who also have the ministry but were handicapped by the Fear and Unwritten rules drawn in the heart
If Jesus Tarries, I pray Deeper life will produce more and more little Kumuyi’s and many more Jesus who would understand the workings of God and know the mind of Christ for the Church, not necessarily amongst some present anxious men who are waiting to be named as General Overseer, and desperate men who have no connection with the Holy spirit yet are willing to hold on to title.

After the Death of Sist, Biodun Kumuyi I watched the trend of Idolatry, how the Picture of a dead woman become very important to us as to display it on a Deeper Life website, How suddenly Bro/Pastor Kumuyi is being referred to as Daddy. I am not against calling an elderly person daddy, But I see the importation of a trend that was personally resisted in the days of consecrations
My prayers are that Jesus should Prepare his Church for the RAPTURE, I am sure it will not be long from now, we have become cold and lethargic. I have so many things on my mind on the issues raised but maybe I should listen to the reaction of mature Christian on these pages since I have no place order than here to remind us of what we used to be. I sure, I will find someone to tell me that, That is what I used to be, You are right. Just pray along with me as I come out from this great pain of my coldness and weakness in following my Lord

obalola7: @Ezniteadin

Where is the poster i have a question for you? It appears that this thread is over a year old and the poster have not been here in a while

nuella2:
^^^
What do you know abt sound doctrine? What has listening to a pastor got to do with cultism? How can a christian compare the body of christ with with occult? And you mr know know see nothing wrong in it. Is like comparing Jesus and the devil,its unimaginable to me.

In my opinion Deeper life is a good church, main disagreement I have is their tithe doctrine. They believe that non-tithers are under a curse.

But the bible says only those under the law are under a curse

Anyway their holiness doctrine is sound.

Thanks,