KRSWon:


So then what is this?

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Right_to_Internet_access

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Digital_rights

Argh!! Com'n!! Why educate the dunce? Now he's going to get tipsy

KRSWon:


So then what is this?

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Right_to_Internet_access

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Digital_rights

You means "rights" created by corporations to make money.

Rights are natural laws.

You don't pay to get right, if you are paying to get something it is no more a right.

nthony10:
You should also add light(power) to your list as not being a fundamental right that we have to pay for.

Imagine the level of ignorance.

Light and power isn't a right.

They are services you pay for, if you stop paying for them, you get disconnected

In your DOThern mind you have made sense abi? I painstakingly read the hogwash from beginning hoping to see a good message in the conclusion but...I won't say I'm disappointed because, of course, you're an aboki, but I expected more than this. Your colleagues in zombiesm could have done better.

Lastly, I expect that in your subsequent threads you will try aimlessly to confuse people into joining your forbidden Islamic app, COWeee.

Assalamualaikum still.

thebosstrevor1:


Permit to explain in simple abc.

You need to pay for data to use Twitter, Twitter is free but you need to pay to access it, once your data finishes, you can't access Twitter.

Twitter is free to use but makes money when you subscribe to data.

Your Subcription means traffic and adrevenue for Twitter, it is the same logic with nairaland.

First of all, Twitter never asked you to pay for data. Saying Twitter is not free is like saying a man who offers to give you 5L of petrol for your generator but you have to buy a keg across the street to collect it has not given you the fuel for free. Twitter and telcos are separate entities. They don't share revenue so it's myopic to say Twitter is not free because you pay for data to access it.
Secondly, traffic does not automatically translate to revenue. Work has to be done which the neither the telcos nor you the user have any input.
When you open Facebook, you see the words: connect with friends.... It's free!! Mind you there are social apps that pay for you to "connect" e.g dating sites.

thebosstrevor1:


You means "rights" created by corporations to make money.

Rights are natural laws.

You don't pay to get right, if you are paying to get something it is no more a right.

Guess what? I have to pay for transport to get to inec office to pick up my voters card...

Agbegbaorogboye:


First of all, Twitter never asked you to pay for data. Saying Twitter is not free is like saying a man who offers to give you 5L of petrol for your generator but you have to buy a keg across the street to collect it has not given you the fuel for free. Twitter and telcos are separate entities. They don't share revenue so it's myopic to say Twitter is not free because you pay for data to access it.
Secondly, traffic does not automatically translate to revenue. Work has to be done which the neither the telcos nor you the user have any input.
When you open Facebook, you see the words: connect with friends.... It's free!! Mind you there are social apps that pay for you to "connect" e.g dating sites.

Next time type nairaland, Twitter or Facebook on your browser without internet data, lets see if you can use those services.

Traffic is the benchmark for sites like nairaland, Facebook and Twitter.

The more people( traffic) are in the site, the more they are able to convert those traffic to revenue by selling advertising space to companies, brand and users.

thebosstrevor1:


You means "rights" created by corporations to make money.

Rights are natural laws.

You don't pay to get right, if you are paying to get something it is no more a right.

The Tunisian government, the United Nations, Human Rights Watch, the Internet Governance Forum, the Electronic Frontier Foundation (and many additional world governments) are "corporations"?

Agbegbaorogboye:


Guess what? I have to pay for transport to get to inec office to pick up my voters card...

You can decide to trek.

KRSWon:


The Tunisian government, the United Nations, Human Rights Watch, the Internet Governance Forum, the Electronic Frontier Foundation (and many additional world governments) are "corporations"?

Apart from the Tunisian government, the rest are NGOs that get fundings from big corporations ...big corporation influences them.

thebosstrevor1:


If cow reason is like that then it means a cow is more intelligent than you.

After writing what a chicken will do better than you still opening that mouth of yours

thebosstrevor1:


You can decide to trek.

Trekking is not my thing.

I don't roll with cows

Upgrade your reasoning aboki

Plus you can decide to link your computer to Twitter via a FTTH. No one will arrest you. Since you're into absurd analogies

Agbegbaorogboye:

Trekking is not my thing.

I don't roll with cows

Upgrade your reasoning aboki

I should be asking you to upgrade your own reasoning .

To be realistic with you, i think you might have a single digit iq.

thebosstrevor1:


Next time type nairaland, Twitter or Facebook on your browser without internet data, lets see if you can use those services.

Traffic is the benchmark for sites like nairaland, Facebook and Twitter.

The more people( traffic) are in the site, the more they are able to convert those traffic to revenue by selling advertising space to companies, brand and users.

Here you go again with brazen ignorance. Internet did not start with Twitter or mobile phones or data subscription.
The idea of monetising traffic is a recent one. No one thought of that when internet first started.
It will surprise you that humans evolve and improve their reasoning. That's what has led to all the noise about traffic. Facebook didn't start out looking for traffic.

Agbegbaorogboye:

Here you go again with brazen ignorance. Internet did not start with Twitter or mobile phones or data subscription.

I am really concerned about you, i believe you are retarrded

thebosstrevor1:


I should be asking you to upgrade your own reasoning .

To be realistic with you, i think you might have a single digit iq.

Says the dude who thinks people pay for Twitter, twitter uses IP address to determine language settings, cow grazing is human right etc etc.

I remain flattered by your low opinion of me

Agbegbaorogboye:

Here you go again with brazen ignorance. Internet did not start with Twitter or mobile phones or data subscription.
The idea of monetising traffic is a recent one. No one thought of that when internet first started.
It will surprise you that humans evolve and improve their reasoning. That's what has led to all the noise about traffic. Facebook didn't start out looking for traffic.

Gosh!

Traffic monetization started when the internet became commercialized.

Myspace, justintv, Ebay, hi5 and other old platforms started traffic monetization.

The idea was gotten from newspapers and readers, the more widespread a newspaper is, the more readers and advertisers they get.

thebosstrevor1:


I am really concerned about you, i believe you are retarrded

Hmmm. Goats think they are smart too you know.

thebosstrevor1:


Gosh!

Traffic monetization started when the internet became commercialized.

Myspace, justintv, Ebay, hi5 and other old platforms started traffic monetization.

The idea was gotten from newspapers and readers, the more readers and widespread a newspaper is, the more readers and advertisers they get.

It's 7. Go find a floor to knack your head.
Byeee

Agbegbaorogboye:


Says the dude who thinks people pay for Twitter, twitter uses IP address to determine language settings, cow grazing is human right etc etc.

I remain flattered by your low opinion of me

You don't know how anything work but funny enough, you are proud in ignorance

thebosstrevor1:


Light and power isn't a right.

They are services you pay for, if you stop paying for them, you get disconnected

please don't miss inform people, the internet, just like light, primary education, good health facilities food, shelter and even Twitter (freedom of speech), considering the fact that we have to pay for all these are considered basic human rights in any country because these are the basic parameters that run a society effectively, even north Korea that is good at violating human rights has enough sense to provide internet.
any Country that doesn't provide these will definitely be left behind and stands the risk of chaos.

thebosstrevor1:


Apart from the Tunisian government, the rest are NGOs that fundings from big corporations ...big corporation influences them.

Which big corporations fund the United Nations?

Which big corporations fund Human Rights Watch?

And many of the other world governments are NGO's?

Also...

People have to pay for food.

Food is considered a right:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Right_to_food

People have to pay for water and sanitation.

Water, especially clean water, and sanitation are considered rights:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_right_to_water_and_sanitation

You have to pay to own private property.

Private property is considered a right:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Right_to_property

You have to pay for clothes.

Clothes are considered a right:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Right_to_clothing

Even though education is free (and compulsory) in many modernized countries, many people still have to pay in poor countries such as Nigeria.

Education is considered a right:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Right_to_education

A decent standard of living requires money.

A decent standard of living is considered a right:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Right_to_an_adequate_standard_of_living

BONUS:

The right to protest is also considered a right, even if the Nigerian government seems to think otherwise:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Right_to_protest

nthony10:


please don't miss inform people, the internet, just like light, primary education, good health facilities food, shelter and even Twitter (freedom of speech), considering the fact that we have to pay for all these are considered basic human rights in any country because these are the basic parameters that run a society effectively, even north Korea that is good at violating human rights has enough sense to provide internet.
any Country that doesn't provide these will definitely be left behind and stands the risk of chaos.

Rights are natural laws not something you pay for.

Light, primary education, good health facilities, food and Twitter are not right, they are not free, you pay to get those services.

Primary education and good healthcare services can only be a right, if the government decides to make them free.

Stop misinforming people, only the rich and government top officials have access to internet connection in north korea.

KRSWon:


Which big corporations fund the United Nations?

Which big corporations fund Human Rights Watch?

And many of the other world governments are NGO's?

Also...

People have to pay for food.

Food is considered a right:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Right_to_food

People have to pay for water and sanitation.

Water, especially clean water, and sanitation are considered rights:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_right_to_water_and_sanitation

You have to pay to own private property.

Private property is considered a right:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Right_to_property

You have to pay for clothes.

Clothes are considered a right:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Right_to_clothing

Even though education is free (and compulsory) in many modernized countries, many people still have to pay in poor countries such as Nigeria.

Education is considered a right:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Right_to_education

A decent standard of living requires money.

A decent standard of living is considered a right:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Right_to_an_adequate_standard_of_living

BONUS:

The right to protest is also considered a right, even if the Nigerian government seems to think otherwise:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Right_to_protest

You dont pay for rights, rights are natural.

Once you pay to have access to a rights, it is no more a right.

Pls stop confusing ngo created rights with natural rights

Human rights organisations are all funded, argueing with do anyone good.

Food, clothing, water, sanitation, education are not rights, you pay to have access to them.

They can only be a right when they are provided for free.

It is your right to own property after you have bought it, you cant go and take someone property and claim it all because you have a right to property.

thebosstrevor1:


Rights are natural laws not something you pay for.

Light, primary education, good health facilities, food and Twitter are not right, they are not free, you pay to get those services.

Primary education and good healthcare services can only be a right, if the government decides to make them free.

Stop misinforming people, only the rich and government top officials have access to internet connection in north korea.

I see you avoided adding shelter and food, abi they don't pay for that also.

Secondly, the government doesn't decide what to give the people, it's the people that tell the government what they need. Are you not ashamed that your president is traveling out for medical check-up in another country for a basic ailment. how can a country grow when the government is not investing in the basic education of its little children, what kind of adults will come out of those children in 20 years time.

My argument is if you can say internet isn't a right simply because you think it's expensive to set up then you should also add food, shelter, primary education that are also expensive period.