DRlulu:

such a strong union between the north and the west will only tighten the union between the east and the south am sure you know the rest of the story.

Ileke-IdI:

I do not encourage this union. God forbid!
Unless the North is ready to change it's standards (i.e education, cease unnecessary killing, female empowerment, cease the Arabic ish etc).
If NIgeria wants to break apart, it'd be harder if a union between these two regions is established.


I see a union between the SW/NC or Middle belt/ N sha.

koruji:

The northern caucus is probably making its own political calculations - perhaps they will be looking for the SW support on another position. I'll be surprised if this is based on any intention to form a union with the SW.

The problem is that the SE wants to keep the Presidency and one of the most important National Assembly positions in the SS/SE while with no leadership representation of the SW at all. It just won't work that way as long as some zoning is still in place

SS-Presidency/NW-VP/NC-Senate Presidency/Speaker-SW/SGF-SE is how it will work.

koruji:

The northern caucus is probably making its own political calculations - perhaps they will be looking for the SW support on another position. I'll be surprised if this is based on any intention to form a union with the SW.

The problem is that the SE wants to keep the Presidency and one of the most important National Assembly positions in the SS/SE while with no leadership representation of the SW at all. It just won't work that way as long as some zoning is still in place

SS-Presidency/NW-VP/NC-Senate Presidency/Speaker-SW/SGF-SE is how it will work.

koruji:

The northern caucus is probably making its own political calculations - perhaps they will be looking for the SW support on another position. I'll be surprised if this is based on any intention to form a union with the SW.

The problem is that the SE wants to keep the Presidency and one of the most important National Assembly positions in the SS/SE while with no leadership representation of the SW at all. It just won't work that way as long as some zoning is still in place

SS-Presidency/NW-VP/NC-Senate Presidency/Speaker-SW/SGF-SE is how it will work.

zstranger:

You also have to realize that all this crap by the SE is just for one purpose, to alienate the SW

Thats the point

Dora let the cat out the other day when he said that if elected, she would fight to keep the SW out of the senate presidency

The North and the SW have always worked together, we actually get along with the North than with any other group in Nigeria

ekt_bear:

Indeed. That is pretty clearly the SE strategy. But we seem to be at least 3-4 steps ahead of them, fortunately.
Untrue. Before the first coup, it was North and East against West. Neither of them are our friends. . . both are our enemies, truth be told.

Obiagu1:

We are just fighting for what is right. You can't give the leadership of a house to a minority with only 6 members whereas of the majority and a strong base of the party, the SE, is neglected.

If SE PDP members decamp to APGA, then the end of PDP is near.

ekt_bear:

There is no real rightness/wrongness associated with this stuff. . . just politics and horsetrading. SE doesn't have any real moral claim to the speaker position.

ekt_bear:

How so? Still a majority in the house and senate even w/o the SE zone, no?

Obiagu1:

We don't but we have to fight for what we think is fair.

That's what you'll not understand. [size=18pt]SE is where PDP originated which you guys can argue till eternity.[/size]
If the SE abandon the PDP, there will be a chain reaction that the SS will abandon it too. SW already has gone to ACN and that means the PDP can hardly win any election.

They are being threatened by CPC and ANPP in the North.

PhysicsMHD:

Maybe the SE should abandon PDP.

And then the SS.

And then the North.


etc.


And let's see what happens.

zstranger:

Ibo people and their delusions

Havent we gone through this already.

The PDP party was formed in the North, not in the SE

Gosh! What a set of dumbasses

ekt_bear:

SS would abandon PDP, despite the president being from there? Why? Because the SE abandoned it?  

Are they fools?

zstranger:

Ibo people and their delusions

Havent we gone through this already.

The PDP party was formed in the North, not in the SE

Gosh! What a set of dumbasses

Ileke-IdI:


What has the lie "SE is where PDP originated" gained them?

Is it not the same PDP that has "marginalized" them?

The same non performing, incompetent PDP party? Seriously, even if PDP originated in your region, is that sth to be proud abi?

Ileke-IdI:

The same non performing, incompetent PDP party? Seriously, even if PDP originated in your region, is that sth to be proud abi?

Obiagu1:

GEJ tenure might end in 2015 and what happens next?

Obiagu1:

PDP marginalised us because of OBJ! Get it?

I wish he just drop dead.

ekt_bear:

How so? Still a majority in the house and senate even w/o the SE zone, no?

Ileke-IdI:

I'm not speaking in terms of social or regional unity, but political unity.

No region can survive by itself, so an alliance must be formed with another group. Of course, North will expect the SW to scratch their back in return on a later date.

If the North does support the SW, who will get it at the end?

Explain the bolded a lil more, please.

ekt_bear:

SS would abandon PDP, despite the president being from there? Why? Because the SE abandoned it?  

Are they fools?

Anyway, let's say SS and SE abandon it both. GEJ remains in PDP, but his support base has left him. Then the PDP becomes an almost entirely northern party.

How does that kill the PDP?

Obiagu1:

PDP marginalised us because of OBJ! Get it?

I wish he just drop dead.

Obiagu1:

PDP marginalised us because of OBJ! Get it?

I wish he just drop dead.

ekt_bear:

SS would abandon PDP, despite the president being from there? Why? Because the SE abandoned it?  

Are they fools?

Anyway, let's say SS and SE abandon it both. GEJ remains in PDP, but his support base has left him. Then the PDP becomes an almost entirely northern party.

How does that kill or punish the PDP?

ekt_bear:

How is OBJ strong enough to marginalize you after joining your own party LMAO

Chyz*:

A big chunk of the "majority" are from the SE. duh. If the SE leaves the opposition grows and PDP 's influence becomes weak.

jason123:

Because the Sw already abandoned it, if the SE abandons, the SS will surely abandon it. But forget all bruhaha about SE=SS that has been created by the internet war lords.Although, I see this a very good political unity that is VERY beneficial but we in the SS make our independent decisions except when the "two" move to a particular direction.

koruji:

Of course, Ileke-Idi, I understand you were not talking about regional or social unity - that is actually desirable as the North get some fine babes up there (payback for that Ghana men are better note) . No worry though, SW babes remain the greatest, but I digress.

You are of course right in thinking that this may be about a North-SW alliance. Mine is a suggestion, which may be the wrong one, that the northern caucus (note I refered to the caucus because many times these people do not really represent their regions) are going for a more short-term political calculation.

As for the bolded this is what the SE wants:
SS-Presidency/NW-VP/NC-Senate Presidency/Speaker-SE/SGF-SW (see Obiagu's reply to that message) instead of my suggestion that it should be:
SS-Presidency/NW-VP/NC-Senate Presidency/Speaker-SW/SGF-SE . The first keeps the SW out of any leadership position in the NA.

The SGF really has no constitutional powers, and is merely the lap-dog of the President - that is what the SE wants the SW to have at the center. Jonathan got massive votes from the SW and PDP has SW members in the NA.

No prob, Ghanaian men still rox