jiggaz:

Joh 3:15 That whosoever BELIEVETH in him should not perish, but have eternal life.

Joh 3:16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever BELIEVETH in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.

Joh 3:17 For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved.

Joh 3:18 He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.

Pay close attention to verse 18 of that chapter, the only reason men will be condemned or go to Hell is clearly explained there - BECAUSE THEY HAVE NOT BELIEVED IN JESUS, NOTHING MORE NOTHING LESS.

God has already poured out His grace for the salvation of the whole world. He's not about to do it again!



Tit 2:11 For the grace of God that bringeth salvation hath appeared to all men.

I have a question please...
If I believe with all my heart the Lord Jesus Christ with all my heart, and am in my church very active in all activities BUT I have a girlfriend where we commit fornication.... Will I still make heaven because I have believed the Lord?

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Is it your prayer? Leave it for God to discard or answer fa.

2Timothy 4v18: The Lord will deliver me from every evil deed and will bring me safely into his heavenly kingdom. To him be glory for ever and ever! Amen.

1Th 5:23 And the very God of peace sanctify you wholly; and I pray God your whole spirit and soul and body be preserved blameless unto the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ. 

Jud 1:24  Now unto him that is able to keep you from falling, and to present you faultless before the presence of his glory with exceeding joy,

I have a question please...
If I believe with all my heart the Lord Jesus Christ with all my heart, and am in my church very active in all activities BUT I have a girlfriend where we commit fornication.... Will I still make heaven because I have believed the Lord?

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I have a question please...
If I believe with all my heart the Lord Jesus Christ with all my heart, and am in my church very active in all activities BUT I have a girlfriend where we commit fornication.... Will I still make heaven because I have believed the Lord?

What did you believe?

madegreatbygrace:



What did you believe?

Read my question again please

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Read my question again please

Trust me, i read all.

You believe Jesus with all of your heart.

I got that. But what exactly do you believe Jesus for?

madegreatbygrace:

Trust me, i read all.

You believe Jesus with all of your heart.

I got that. But what exactly do you believe Jesus for?

When you preach to someone to believe in Jesus as his personal Lord and Savior to be saved, do you ask him "but what exactly do you believe Jesus for?"
Do you?

GardenOfGod:

I have a question please...
If I believe with all my heart the Lord Jesus Christ with all my heart, and am in my church very active in all activities BUT I have a girlfriend where we commit fornication.... Will I still make heaven because I have believed the Lord?

Faith without works is dead brother. Your faith or belief has to be accompanied by works of repentance. You repent from fornication and all immorality because it is only the pure in heart that will see God. See carefully the verses i quoted, they all talk about purity too.

2Timothy 4v18: The Lord will deliver me from every evil deed and will bring me safely into his heavenly kingdom. To him be glory for ever and ever! Amen.

Fornication is an evil deed to be delivered from and flee from.

1Th 5:23 And the very God of peace sanctify you wholly; and I pray God your whole spirit and soul and body be preserved blameless unto the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ. 

A fornicator is not blameless or sanctified.

Jud 1:24  Now unto him that is able to keep you from falling, and to present you faultless before the presence of his glory with exceeding joy,

Of course, you know that a fornicator is not faultless but fallen into sin.

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Faith without works is dead brother. Your faith or belief has to be accompanied by works of repentance. You repent from fornication and all immorality because it is only the pure in heart that will see God. See carefully the verses i quoted, they all talk about purity too.

2Timothy 4v18: The Lord will deliver me from every evil deed and will bring me safely into his heavenly kingdom. To him be glory for ever and ever! Amen.

Fornication is an evil deed to be delivered from and flee from.

1Th 5:23 And the very God of peace sanctify you wholly; and I pray God your whole spirit and soul and body be preserved blameless unto the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ. 

A fornicator is not blameless or sanctified.

Jud 1:24  Now unto him that is able to keep you from falling, and to present you faultless before the presence of his glory with exceeding joy,

Of course, you know that a fornicator is not faultless but fallen into sin.

Yes of course I am a good prayer warrior, I pray for God to give me the grace to overcome fornication, but the girl is still with me... What will happen?

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Faith without works is dead brother. Your faith or belief has to be accompanied by works of repentance. You repent from fornication and all immorality because it is only the pure in heart that will see God. See carefully the verses i quoted, they all talk about purity too.

2Timothy 4v18: The Lord will deliver me from every evil deed and will bring me safely into his heavenly kingdom. To him be glory for ever and ever! Amen.

Fornication is an evil deed to be delivered from and flee from.

1Th 5:23 And the very God of peace sanctify you wholly; and I pray God your whole spirit and soul and body be preserved blameless unto the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ. 

A fornicator is not blameless or sanctified.

Jud 1:24  Now unto him that is able to keep you from falling, and to present you faultless before the presence of his glory with exceeding joy,

Of course, you know that a fornicator is not faultless but fallen into sin.

Secondly, was the writer of the portions you quoted above indulge in any form of sin?

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When you preach to someone to believe in Jesus as his personal Lord and Savior to be saved, do you ask him "but what exactly do you believe Jesus for?"
Do you?

Actually, I don’t ask them such question. I preach the gospel .

What do you preach sir?

madegreatbygrace:

Actually, I don’t ask them such question. I preach the gospel .

What do you preach sir?

If you don't ask them why ask me.... Answer my question so that we move on

GardenOfGod:

Yes of course I am a good prayer warrior, I pray for God to give me the grace to overcome fornication, but the girl is still with me... What will happen?

You flee fornication, not pray for grace to overcome fornication.

GardenOfGod:

Secondly, was the writer of the portions you quoted above indulge in any form of sin?

The Bible is the Word of God.

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The Bible is the Word of God.

You quoted John, Timothy and Paul.... Where they sinners?

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If you don't ask them why ask me.... Answer my question so that we move on

It’s difficult to answer your question when i don’t know what you believe.

For instance , did someone preach to you that Jesus was a healer?

Was that the “gospel “ you heard before your conversion?

Maybe someone preached to you that Jesus would make you rich.

The foundation must be known

Hope you understand

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You flee fornication, not pray for grace to overcome fornication.

According to the portion you quoted in..
2Timothy 4v18: The Lord will deliver me from every evil deed and will bring me safely into his heavenly kingdom. To him be glory for ever and ever! Amen
I can pray for God to deliver me from it.

GardenOfGod:

You quoted John, Timothy and Paul.... Where they sinners?

i actually quoted the Word of God.

GardenOfGod:

According to the portion you quoted in..
2Timothy 4v18: The Lord will deliver me from every evil deed and will bring me safely into his heavenly kingdom. To him be glory for ever and ever! Amen
I can pray for God to deliver me from it.

God only delivers people who flee from fornication.

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You flee fornication, not pray for grace to overcome fornication.

According to the portion you quoted in..
2Timothy 4v18: The Lord will deliver me from every evil deed and will bring me safely into his heavenly kingdom. To him be glory for ever and ever! Amen
I can pray for God to deliver me from it.

GardenOfGod:

According to the portion you quoted in..
2Timothy 4v18: The Lord will deliver me from every evil deed and will bring me safely into his heavenly kingdom. To him be glory for ever and ever! Amen
I can pray for God to deliver me from it.

God Himself gives the mode of deliverance, the mode is to flee.

jiggaz:
The Grace Not To Miss Heaven" A Very Needless Prayer Most Christians Pray
by Prince Gabriel Okocha

Early 2017, I and Pst Paulrodney Okonkwo just finished witnessing to a lady during one of our evangelism activities when I asked her “Do you understand all we’ve been saying ma concerning Heaven and God’s grace?”

“Yes, very very well” She replied.

“Do you have any question you’d like to ask?” I asked again.

“No” she responded, “but I have a prayer request”

“That’s good, go on. What is it about?” I said, encouraging her to feel free.

“Please PRAY FOR ME SO THAT I WILL NOT MISS HEAVEN, PRAY SO THAT GOD WILL GIVE ME THE GRACE NOT TO MISS HEAVEN” She sincerely pleaded.

I was dazed. I thought all this while that we were explaining all it takes to become a citizen of Heaven she was following. And we were already standing up to leave.

We had to sit down again and start afresh to explain and explain for some period of time, before she could grasp what we were trying to say.

What’s my point in telling this story?

I come across believers and ministers on daily basis, listen to their comments and read their posts. One thing I always find common among them is this PRAYER NOT TO MISS HEAVEN.

You find ministers saying things like, “I pray for you today, you shall not miss heaven in Jesus name” or “may God give you the grace not to miss heaven in Jesus name” and the members will shout “Amen” with all their strength.

This is an error. YOU CANNOT PRAY YOUR WAY INTO HEAVEN NO MATTER HOW MUCH YOU PRAY.

Let me say it again, HEAVEN IS NOT BY PRAYER. The Bible is very very clear on this.

Becoming a citizen of Heaven, that is, one who has been delivered from Hell forever, is simply BY BELIEVING THAT JESUS DIED FOR YOUR SINS AND ROSE AGAIN FOR YOUR JUSTIFICATION.

Joh 3:14 And as Moses lifted up the serpent in the wilderness, even so must the Son of man be lifted up:

Joh 3:15 That whosoever BELIEVETH in him should not perish, but have eternal life.

Joh 3:16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever BELIEVETH in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.

Joh 3:17 For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved.

Joh 3:18 He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.

Pay close attention to verse 18 of that chapter, the only reason men will be condemned or go to Hell is clearly explained there - BECAUSE THEY HAVE NOT BELIEVED IN JESUS, NOTHING MORE NOTHING LESS.

God has already poured out His grace for the salvation of the whole world. He's not about to do it again!

Tit 2:11 For the grace of God that bringeth salvation hath appeared to all men.

But a man has to consciously put his faith in this grace, that is, believe in Jesus, to appropriate what God has already DONE in Christ.

Rom 4:16 Therefore it is of faith, that it might be by grace; to the end the promise might be sure to all the seed; not to that only which is of the law, but to that also which is of the faith of Abraham; who is the father of us all.

It is by Faith in Grace (believing what God did through Christ).

Rom 5:2 By whom also we have access by faith into this grace wherein we stand, and rejoice in hope of the glory of God.

Again!

Eph 2:8 For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:

All over the scriptures!

You take too much upon yourself when you think that it is your prayer that will save you or anyone else from Hell. Quit wishing one another “Heaven at last”. You can’t go to Heaven by mere wishes. Simply BELIEVE in HIM as your SAVIOUR!!!

When you depend on what YOU (on your own as a person) CAN DO to enter Heaven, it doesn’t just become hard. It becomes impossible.

Let me say it again. Based on our efforts, HEAVEN IS NOT HARD, IT IS IMPOSSIBLE!!!

But this impossibility is with man, not with God. For with God, all things concerning the total salvation of man are POSSIBLE.

Mat 19:25 When his disciples heard it, they were exceedingly amazed, saying, Who then can be saved?

Mat 19:26 But Jesus beheld them, and said unto them, With men this is impossible; but with God all things are possible.

I hope this blesses you. Have a Jesus filled day!

https://www.feedmejesus.com/2021/06/the-grace-not-to-miss-heaven-prayer-christian.html?m=1

My question was based on this concept of believe in Jesus only and you are saved.

madegreatbygrace:



It’s difficult to answer your question when i don’t know what you believe.

For instance , did someone preach to you that Jesus was a healer?

Was that the “gospel “ you heard before your conversion?

Maybe someone preached to you that Jesus would make you rich.

The foundation must be known

Hope you understand

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You flee fornication, not pray for grace to overcome fornication.

Can you now see that you don't only BELIEVE In Jesus and then be saved?

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i actually quoted the Word of God.

Who wrote those portions in the Bible?

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My question was based on this concept of believe in Jesus only and you are saved.

Do you have a problem with that?

madegreatbygrace:



Do you have a problem with that?

Yes

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Yes

How so?

madegreatbygrace:



How so?

According to the op, believing in Jesus alone guarantees your salvation.... What is your position on that?

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According to the op, believing in Jesus alone guarantees your salvation.... What is your position on that?

My position is the same as op

madegreatbygrace:



My position is the same as op

OK good luck

GardenOfGod:

Who wrote those portions in the Bible?

The vital question should be who authored and inspired them. Many printing press and peoples have written. But the Word of God is quick and powerful and sharper than any two edged sword.

GardenOfGod:

According to the op, believing in Jesus alone guarantees your salvation.... What is your position on that?

Yes believing only in Jesus guarantee your salvation, Jesus said he is the way not a way but the only way adding anything to faith in Jesus simply means you dont believe Jesus to be enough for you.

It is only through faith in Christ you can be an overcome, so it is true that believing only in Christ guarantees salvation but to believe in christ is to believe everything about him and what he said.

GardenOfGod:

Can you now see that you don't only BELIEVE In Jesus and then be saved?

Belief on the Lord Jesus is comprehensive as seen in the Bible. Read it in full, not in part. Read it to understand, not to respond.