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Is Suicide Truly Bad Always? Free Spirits Come In by 10mobile: 7:38pm On Jul 15, 2021
Religion taught us that suicide is absolutely bad. But, like many other things religion taught us, this too may not be true.

Personally, I think that there are cases when suicide should rather be encouraged. For instance, I think that terrorists kill people so much because the terrorists are fed up with life. They can't kill themselves because they are afraid to die and go straight to hell. So, they resort to killing others (ie. sending others to hell) instead. Don't you think that even God would prefer that these terrorists killed themselves instead of killing other people?

There are other cases where I think people were better if they killed themselves - like those guys eating grass to keep living. I mean we shouldn't let life humiliate us to certain levels.

What do you guys think? I need free spirits only to contribute.

Re: Is Suicide Truly Bad Always? Free Spirits Come In by AlexBells(m): 7:47pm On Jul 15, 2021
Why not start by asking is hell a good or bad place, the answer you seek is right in front of you, since your argument is based on things that scripture said that could be questionable, we might as well consider going with all the equipment needed to build a bakery, also build a cold room with icecream productions and who said hell can't be any better
Re: Is Suicide Truly Bad Always? Free Spirits Come In by 10mobile: 7:51pm On Jul 15, 2021
If you look at life, you'd notice that most people are afraid to dare great things. It's why only very few people achieve greatness. If you apply this to suicide, I can say that those who are courageous enough to kill themselves are greater heroes than those who are afraid to do so when it's expedient. What do you think about this?
Re: Is Suicide Truly Bad Always? Free Spirits Come In by 10mobile: 7:56pm On Jul 15, 2021
AlexBells:
Why not start by asking is hell a good or bad place, the answer you seek is right in front of you, since your argument is based on things that scripture said that could be questionable, we might as well consider going with all the equipment needed to build a bakery, also build a cold room with icecream productions and who said hell can't be any better
I'd prefer we don't take on too many questions at once. Let the question about hell's existence be saved for another day to avoid derailing the topic. For now, let's presume that heaven and hell exist as our major religions teach.
Re: Is Suicide Truly Bad Always? Free Spirits Come In by 10mobile: 8:02pm On Jul 15, 2021
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Even the Bible says, "fear not" again and again. It also says that the just shall live by faith, not by fear. But you guys contradict these instructions by trying to enforce obedience through inspiring fear in people. Your Bible tells us not to fear, but you're all trying to make us fear. Why?

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Re: Is Suicide Truly Bad Always? Free Spirits Come In by FarahAideed: 8:03pm On Jul 15, 2021
There is nothing wrong with suicide..it's one of the most honorable thing a human being can do ...If you are frustrated committing suicide is better than you becoming a serial killer or Kidnapper

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Re: Is Suicide Truly Bad Always? Free Spirits Come In by Zaxbash1: 8:06pm On Jul 15, 2021
So u guys are encouraging self murder
Re: Is Suicide Truly Bad Always? Free Spirits Come In by AlexBells(m): 8:10pm On Jul 15, 2021
10mobile:

I'd prefer we don't take on too many questions at once. Let the question about hell's existence be saved for another day to avoid derailing the topic. For now, let's presume that heaven and hell exist as our major religions teach.
Okay, first of all, if you take your life you are doing the livers a little favour by making ensuring that those who lives have enough resources, I'm not going to preach to you about the good and bad side of suicide, the question is why suicide when you will eventually die, honestly whether you commit suicide or not, changing the date of your death by some extra or shorter time does not guarante any actual difference to the cosmos and it won't make much of a difference to God either.

Everyday people go to hell and so do people go to heaven, some major life choices are suicide but sugar coated into something else, like joining the army, space exploration, becoming a pilot, in fact the moment you took your first breath you'd eventually a suicide candidate. How long we live does not quite matter, whether we took our own lives or die of other means is inconsequential ince you dead you dead, goodluck if you eventually decide that suicide is the thing for you.

Otherwise on the other hand, why commit suicide and leave all of us suffering, in that case suicide attempts would be jailed and those who succeed will be shot in the brain
Re: Is Suicide Truly Bad Always? Free Spirits Come In by 10mobile: 8:10pm On Jul 15, 2021
FarahAideed:
There is nothing wrong with suicide..it's one of the most honorable thing a human being can do ...If you are frustrated committing suicide is better than you becoming a serial killer or Kidnapper
Thanks for being the only one who has attempted the question so far.
Re: Is Suicide Truly Bad Always? Free Spirits Come In by Nobody: 8:11pm On Jul 15, 2021
I don't think the Bible condems suicide

Samson, Jesus, Stephen, Saul etc

It's seems to me that the only people who see suicide as evil are
1: Wicked leaders who don't want their people to kill themselves else they would lack slaves.

2: Slaves who want to keep on living at any price.

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Re: Is Suicide Truly Bad Always? Free Spirits Come In by Nobody: 8:11pm On Jul 15, 2021
Sucide is a bold step and I always acknowledge people who take it... I don't discourage sucide, sometimes it's the most honourable thing to do.

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Re: Is Suicide Truly Bad Always? Free Spirits Come In by FarahAideed: 8:12pm On Jul 15, 2021
Doradorwa:
Sucide is a bold step and I always acknowledge people who take it... I don't discourage sucide, sometimes it's the most honourable thing to do.

Me too I never discourage it
Re: Is Suicide Truly Bad Always? Free Spirits Come In by richmond500: 8:13pm On Jul 15, 2021
Doradorwa:
Sucide is a bold step and I always acknowledge people who take it... I don't discourage sucide, sometimes it's the most honourable thing to do.
suicide is only done by cowards
Re: Is Suicide Truly Bad Always? Free Spirits Come In by 10mobile: 8:14pm On Jul 15, 2021
AlexBells:

Okay, first of all, if you take your life you are doing the livers a little favour by making ensuring that those who lives have enough resources, I'm not going to preach to you about the good and bad side of suicide, the question is why suicide when you will eventually die, honestly whether you commit suicide or not, changing the date of your death by some extra or shorter time does not guarante any actual difference to the cosmos and it won't make much of a difference to God either.

Everyday people go to hell and so do people go to heaven, some major life choices are suicide but sugar coated into something else, like joining the army, space exploration, becoming a pilot, in fact the moment you took your first breath you'd eventually a suicide candidate. How long we live does not quite matter, whether we took our own lives or die of other means is inconsequential ince you dead you dead, goodluck if you eventually decide that suicide is the thing for you.

Otherwise on the other hand, why commit suicide and leave all of us suffering, in that case suicide attempts would be jailed and those who succeed will be shot in the brain
Another good attempt. Thanks. People can disagree also but with clear reasoning.
Re: Is Suicide Truly Bad Always? Free Spirits Come In by richmond500: 8:15pm On Jul 15, 2021
FarahAideed:


Me too I never discourage it
Everyone should have the courage to face reality, suicide is cowardice to me.

At some point, we all get broken, some sees suicide as the only way out while others push through and continue to push till they find their breakthroughs.

I don't discourage it but I see them as cowards
Re: Is Suicide Truly Bad Always? Free Spirits Come In by FarahAideed: 8:15pm On Jul 15, 2021
richmond500:
suicide is only done by cowards

There is nothing cowardly about suicide man ..No coward can even go through with suicide , cowards will rather become serial killers than prick their own skin
Re: Is Suicide Truly Bad Always? Free Spirits Come In by 10mobile: 8:17pm On Jul 15, 2021
richmond500:
suicide is only done by cowards
Explain your point if you have any reason to back it up.
Re: Is Suicide Truly Bad Always? Free Spirits Come In by richmond500: 8:18pm On Jul 15, 2021
FarahAideed:


There is nothing cowardly about suicide man ..No coward can even go through with suicide , cowards will rather become serial killers than prick their own skin
cowards are those who couldn't face the situation they find themselves and tries to escape.



there is nothing manly about suicide,
Re: Is Suicide Truly Bad Always? Free Spirits Come In by richmond500: 8:18pm On Jul 15, 2021
10mobile:

Explain your point if you have any reason to back it up.
check the comment above this one
Re: Is Suicide Truly Bad Always? Free Spirits Come In by AlexBells(m): 8:19pm On Jul 15, 2021
10mobile:

Another good attempt. Thanks. People can disagree also but with clear reasoning.
I like to discuss the concept of suicide, I had writen many thesis on that I can boldly tell you that suicide is not and shouldn't be looked at as a sin neither is it about courage or suffering, suicide is a sickness and an aspect of every advanced brained organisation, don't commit suicide every suicidal person out there you really want to live,
Re: Is Suicide Truly Bad Always? Free Spirits Come In by AlexBells(m): 8:20pm On Jul 15, 2021
richmond500:
cowards are those who couldn't face the situation they find themselves and tries to escape, probably because they have been spoilt that reality seems a herculean task for them.

there is nothing manly about suicide
Suicide Is not about cowardice it is more
Re: Is Suicide Truly Bad Always? Free Spirits Come In by richmond500: 8:23pm On Jul 15, 2021
AlexBells:

Suicide Is not about cowardice it is more
Sometimes life will give u a reason to quit, most times its so bad that u cry, but the strong always pick up the broken pieces and keep pushing while the weak and cowards give up.

Suicide is cowardice
Re: Is Suicide Truly Bad Always? Free Spirits Come In by Nobody: 8:23pm On Jul 15, 2021
richmond500:
suicide is only done by cowards
We all have the right to live our life the way we want, sucide is not for cowards... It's for the courageous, it's for those who command death. Actually I'm not religious so I find the whole issue of hell as nothing.
Re: Is Suicide Truly Bad Always? Free Spirits Come In by richmond500: 8:26pm On Jul 15, 2021
Doradorwa:
We all have the right to live our life the way we want, sucide is not for cowards... It's for the courageous, it's for those who command death. Actually I'm not religious so I find the whole issue of hell as nothing.
No sane person commits suicide for fun, some commit because of carryover courses, some commit because their girlfriends left them, some commit suicide because things aren't going well with them.

If u commit suicide, it means u are going through tough times and giving up seems the easiest way out.

A wise man once said, tough times don't last, only tough people do, if u stick around, u may sumersault into a solution one day

So
Re: Is Suicide Truly Bad Always? Free Spirits Come In by AlexBells(m): 8:29pm On Jul 15, 2021
richmond500:
Sometimes life will give u a reason to quit, most times its so bad that u cry, but the strong always pick up the broken pieces and keep pushing while the weak and cowards give up.

Suicide is cowardice
You know nothing about suicide, it is not the poorest, nor the weakest nor the ones that suffers the most that commits suicide, there is more to suicide than we had been able to realise that's why you will see super rich people sometimes commit suicide, we will be able to help suicide victims if they realised that it is absolutely normal to want to commit suicide but whether we compete it or not will depend on grace
Re: Is Suicide Truly Bad Always? Free Spirits Come In by Nobody: 8:31pm On Jul 15, 2021
richmond500:
No sane person commits suicide for fun.

If u commit suicide, iteans u are going through tough times and giving up seems the easiest way out
No one commit sucide for fun sir.... I agree... But like someone said earlier life always give us a chance, like an escape route and the choice is always for the life owner. The concept of sucide is more than going through hard times. It's more... It's about defeating that hard time... Death always win

Personally if I'm diagnose with any deadly disease I will rather kill myself than allow my family waste any money. That way I've defeat the body... Sucide is an honourable thing
Re: Is Suicide Truly Bad Always? Free Spirits Come In by richmond500: 8:34pm On Jul 15, 2021
AlexBells:

You know nothing about suicide, it is not the poorest, nor the weakest nor the ones that suffers the most that commits suicide, there is more to suicide than we had been able to realise that's why you will see super rich people sometimes commit suicide, we will be able to help suicide victims if they realised that it is absolutely normal to want to commit suicide but whether we compete it or not will depend on grace
having money doesn't mean everything is fine, anybody who commits suicide was facing a problem (keep terrorist out of this).

I have never seen a man that will say "omo this life too sweet abeg, make I just commit suicide just to see if the other life sweet like this"
Re: Is Suicide Truly Bad Always? Free Spirits Come In by 10mobile: 8:37pm On Jul 15, 2021
Doradorwa:
No one commit sucide for fun sir.... I agree... But like someone said earlier life always give us a chance, like an escape route and the choice is always for the life owner. The concept of sucide is more than going through hard times. It's more... It's about defeating that hard time... Death always win

Personally if I'm diagnose with any deadly disease I will rather kill myself than allow my family waste any money. That way I've defeat the body... Sucide is an honourable thing
I know that you mean terminal illness. In that case, I agree with you.
Re: Is Suicide Truly Bad Always? Free Spirits Come In by richmond500: 8:37pm On Jul 15, 2021
Doradorwa:
No one commit sucide for fun sir.... I agree... But like someone said earlier life always give us a chance, like an escape route and the choice is always for the life owner. The concept of sucide is more than going through hard times. It's more... It's about defeating that hard time... Death always win

Personally if I'm diagnose with any deadly disease I will rather kill myself than allow my family waste any money. That way I've defeat the body... Sucide is an honourable thing
that way, u have ran away from the problem instead of facing that disease and look for a solution.
Suicide is another term for giving up
Re: Is Suicide Truly Bad Always? Free Spirits Come In by AlexBells(m): 8:42pm On Jul 15, 2021
richmond500:
having money doesn't mean everything is fine, anybody who commits suicide was facing a problem (keep terrorist out of this).

I have never seen a man that will say "omo this life too sweet abeg, make I just commit suicide just to see if the other life sweet like this"
Look the brain can not interpret good life, the brain must always trick you to hate why you are committing suicide for, you would see a bus driver, who would say, I had driven this bus for the past 20 years and today pulls a gun and shoot himself in the head not leaving any suicide note.

Whatever reason you committing suicide for must be translated as pain before your brain can process it, have you seen people commit suicide because of they spent all their lives chasing money and now they have so much money but no peace, look it is not about what or why you are committing suicide, see if today you wish to commit suicide because you are too beautiful or handsome your brain will associate all your negative outcomes to your beauties like, why always me, this attention is killing me at the end you leave a suicide not, that reads "Tired of this Beauty ".

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Re: Is Suicide Truly Bad Always? Free Spirits Come In by Nobody: 8:44pm On Jul 15, 2021
richmond500:
that way, u have ran away from the problem instead of facing that disease and look for a solution.
Suicide is another term for giving up
Death is inevitable... Quickening it is Honourable... No one is always supposed to endure. Endurance is a choice.

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