History555:
How can a wall be built without bricks or nothing. What kind of wall is that and to call it the largest structure on earth. For real. What then do we call the great walls China and the pyramids. Reno should look for something else to do

GerogeI:


The colonial era referred to anything around the Niger delta as Benen Kingdom. Even today, Geologist refers to most of the base rock under the Niger delta as Benin Formation. Simply because the British identified them as monarchies like themselves, and further hyped them, hoping to do with them what they did with the Emirs of the North

As a the time of the write up, when Olaudah was an accomplished adult, the borders and extent of Benen kingdom were still unknown as he stated clearly in his write up. So the broad use of Benen term at his time. Oluadah clearly identified himself as Eboe in his introduction, so his village was not in or part of Benin. But used Benin as the nearest location mark familiar to his audience of 17th century Christian in London. He goes on to describe in details how everyman was the highest authority in his own home- (an Igbo enshrine value system). He also spent entire paragraph on the similarity of his peoples culture with that of the Jews). Never in those descriptions did he mention any sort of reference or reverence to Benin. You can not rule a people in absentia. So like he said, Benin kingdom ( of which he knew as an adult) was probably too far as it had no influence in his village while he was a child.

If you followed his journey down to the seas, he was traded among people who spoke same language as him until he got to the sea. It's a shame, but it was Eboes that raided and kidnapped other Eboes as slaves, no outsider could have done it successfully as Reno Omokri claims. The British with their guns could not accomplish that talkless of Itsekiris.

oyatz:


Stop shifting the goal posts.

Equiano himself said his village is in one of the provinces of the Bini Empire.

Empires consist of many ethnic groups and the Benin Empire consist of Yorubas in the West, Edos in the Central and Igbos to the East. There's no shame in admitting the facts of history.

oyatz:


Stop shifting the goal posts.

Equiano himself said his village is in one of the provinces of the Bini Empire.

Empires consist of many ethnic groups and the Benin Empire consist of Yorubas in the West, Edos in the Central and Igbos to the East. There's no shame in admitting the facts of history.

GerogeI:

A moat, or earthpit does not make an empire, Benin was merely a Kingdom and had zero influence East of the Niger.

That controversy, which Olaudah elaborated by showing that the boarders of Benin was unknown is besides the point and just a distraction.

The real issues are with reference to Reno's claims, and as Olaudah evidenced are:
1. The slave raiders were Eboes not Iteskiri or Benens
2. The slave traders were Eboes not Iteskiri or Benens
3. The slave route was through Eboe land not Iteskiri or Benens as they all spoke languages same as the Eboe slave.
4. No body ever mentioned or knew Itsekiris at Equiano's time, an insignificant minority group brought to light only by the formation of Nigeria.

Finito.

oyatz:


You are bringing in different issues (based on your disagreement with Reno Omokri) into the discussion.

My point is that Olaidoh Equiano unequivocally stated that his village was in one of the provinces of Bini Empire. QED.

Jimasun:

No. Benin empire had some Yorubas not all Yorubas.

GerogeI:


And your concern is quite besides the point of discussion, which is whether Itsekiris and Benens were enslaving Igbos west of the Niger. Your false claim of provincial influence does not matter as it does not mean enslavement, as Oluadah clearly stated it was non existent, and there enslavers were rather Eboes (bandits)- red coloured men to whom they also sold slaves.

Nbotee:
So Igbos actually developed Benin Kingdom den

louqas:


If everybody hates you then you need to check yourself.....

The iboman needs to tell himself the truth and stop playing the ostrich. Everyone hates you but you have refused to leave where you are hated , isnt that insanity?
Look around the east, how many fulanis do you still see.....they have almost all gone because they see real hate that have been shown them theŕe.....if you have really been hated in other parts of Nigeria , you would have headed back east since...

louqas:


Come up with your version now.....you people think we are all fools and forgetful , you started this when you start your revisionism in the hope that it attratcts sympathy to your biafra agitations but alas it has backfired.....havent you noticed other tribes that were initially sympathetic to your cause have seen through your tissue of lies to attract sympathy and have since stopped being sympathetic to biafra agitation. everyone has seen that your agitation is greed driven.