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Re: Was Jesus A Failure Because Many Of His Disciples Left Him And Few Stayed? by truespeak: 8:58am On Jul 25, 2021 |
AntiChristian: No, I would not. For criticizing that which is understandable or can be understood (that is if you care to) comes because you either suffer from Lack of Understanding(which is curable) or Bias(which is usually incurable) Thankfully, I suffer none of these! AntiChristian: I have already answered you so you are merely repeating yourself! |
Re: Was Jesus A Failure Because Many Of His Disciples Left Him And Few Stayed? by Dtruthspeaker: 8:59am On Jul 25, 2021 |
truespeak: From his conver with JNR, I deduce that he is Muslim. And there seems to be a rise on Muslim attacks here. So he does not know many things. |
Re: Was Jesus A Failure Because Many Of His Disciples Left Him And Few Stayed? by truespeak: 9:05am On Jul 25, 2021 |
Dtruthspeaker: Hmm! No wonder. |
Re: Was Jesus A Failure Because Many Of His Disciples Left Him And Few Stayed? by Monogamy: 9:20am On Jul 25, 2021 |
truespeak: You have not answered but instead shifting goal post.. That's very obvious.. How can a perfect person still have anger issue? Where is the perfection? |
Re: Was Jesus A Failure Because Many Of His Disciples Left Him And Few Stayed? by AntiChristian: 9:55am On Jul 25, 2021 |
truespeak: You never answered as you avoided the truth that he failed in his appointment. 1 Like |
Re: Was Jesus A Failure Because Many Of His Disciples Left Him And Few Stayed? by truespeak: 10:01am On Jul 25, 2021 |
Monogamy: I have remained on point all through on the issue between us, to wit, Perfect, so falsely accusing me of that which you are guilty of would not change my answer And Repeating yourself, would not change my answers either, so you can knock yourself out I'm out! |
Re: Was Jesus A Failure Because Many Of His Disciples Left Him And Few Stayed? by truespeak: 10:10am On Jul 25, 2021 |
AntiChristian: I have! But you are simply exercising your right to reject the Truth! And of course being who you are, I know your personal bias prevents you from accepting it. Thus nothing I say will be accepted by you and neither do I care for the aforesaid! So you can go on repeating yourself! I am done! |
Re: Was Jesus A Failure Because Many Of His Disciples Left Him And Few Stayed? by 22jumpstreet: 11:33am On Jul 25, 2021 |
truespeak: Be guided..please |
Re: Was Jesus A Failure Because Many Of His Disciples Left Him And Few Stayed? by 22jumpstreet: 11:39am On Jul 25, 2021 |
God promised through the prophets to send the jews Messiah that will establish peace and deliver them from their enemies bring them back to their native land. The land he promised to their ancestors... Jesus if he existed did not do any of that. The romans took the Jewish scriptures and created a caricature of a messiah while mistranslating it. What you got was a demi God who died for his sins.. It's either Jesus is a fraud, fiction or failure... Your choice. |
Re: Was Jesus A Failure Because Many Of His Disciples Left Him And Few Stayed? by nams77: 12:06pm On Jul 25, 2021 |
Monogamy:I really don't have time to start arguing with you. Good day |
Re: Was Jesus A Failure Because Many Of His Disciples Left Him And Few Stayed? by truespeak: 3:38pm On Jul 25, 2021 |
22jumpstreet: Calling it my Opinion does not remove it's Truth on the issue, which has been settled already. So I am Fine! |
Re: Was Jesus A Failure Because Many Of His Disciples Left Him And Few Stayed? by Myer(m): 3:42pm On Jul 25, 2021 |
MejiLoyon: Religious spirit is heavy on you. If you have any sense you'll have realised it's an analogy concerning the recent sack of pastors by Winners for lack of large membership. If God were to be like Oyedepo, you would have been dead by now cos clearly you're a failure for not being like Christ. |
Re: Was Jesus A Failure Because Many Of His Disciples Left Him And Few Stayed? by Olaolufred(m): 3:52pm On Jul 25, 2021 |
jesusjnr2020: YOU SPOKE MY MIND. GOD BLESS YOU. 1 Like |
Re: Was Jesus A Failure Because Many Of His Disciples Left Him And Few Stayed? by Olaolufred(m): 4:14pm On Jul 25, 2021 |
psucc: If dad only preaches Christ to you without correcting you when you are friend to somebody with questionable character, will his "Jesus loves you" message be enough? Bro. He is not criticizing Oyedepo, he is using the word of God also to tell us that if you are preaching the true gospel of Christ, many who have itchy ears will be offended. So, crowd will not want to congregate around the truth hitting them and challenging their lack of Christ when they claimed being Christian. But when the focus is the crowd, the message can be diluted to pamper them for hell fire. I was in that Church for close to 17 years (due to my living with my brother who's a member, now pastor) before God delivered me from the message of dominance on earth. Seek you first the kingdom of God and it's righteousness is in giving your life to Jesus and living it daily by obeying him in all. It is not in monetary value. How can a fornicator be a successful praise worship leader? It happened because in a whole year, you will never hear pastor preach about what the works of the flesh are. Bible is complete, but they selected where to use to motivate men to dominate the earth. Let thy kingdom come oh Lord. The deciet is getting too much. 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Was Jesus A Failure Because Many Of His Disciples Left Him And Few Stayed? by psucc(m): 5:41pm On Jul 25, 2021 |
Olaolufred:You do not understand me. The saga is predicated upon the rudiments of the Church and to which the people (sacked Pastors) subscribed to. Sir, you have said the truth. Preaching righteousness, holy living, will rather send people away. This is nothing but the truth. But in the instant case, the people subscribed to "winning souls to the Church" than to Christ. 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Was Jesus A Failure Because Many Of His Disciples Left Him And Few Stayed? by Nobody: 5:54pm On Jul 25, 2021 |
psucc: The way Jesus forgot the Pharisees leading the people astray in those days, right? 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Was Jesus A Failure Because Many Of His Disciples Left Him And Few Stayed? by Olaolufred(m): 6:26pm On Jul 25, 2021 |
psucc: It is a sorry case Bro. Is this how we will continue in this mess? You turned to Government, no leeway. You turn to church, another bondage. Lord, Let thy Kingdom come. Bring back thy revival. 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Was Jesus A Failure Because Many Of His Disciples Left Him And Few Stayed? by jesusjnr2020(m): 6:51pm On Jul 25, 2021 |
Ishilove:Not surprised, for out of the abundance of the heart, the mouth speaks for someone born of the flesh not of the Spirit. Be there deceiving yourself with people's approval and estimation, one day if you don't truly repent, you'd know who has misplaced priorities between us. 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Was Jesus A Failure Because Many Of His Disciples Left Him And Few Stayed? by Ishilove: 6:58pm On Jul 25, 2021 |
jesusjnr2020:I hear you. Deputy Jesus. Even your username already speaks of your conceit so your comment is not coming as a surprise. |
Re: Was Jesus A Failure Because Many Of His Disciples Left Him And Few Stayed? by jesusjnr2020(m): 7:01pm On Jul 25, 2021 |
Olaolufred:Thank God bro. God bless you too. |
Re: Was Jesus A Failure Because Many Of His Disciples Left Him And Few Stayed? by jesusjnr2020(m): 7:01pm On Jul 25, 2021 |
HedwigesMaduro:Hmm... |
Re: Was Jesus A Failure Because Many Of His Disciples Left Him And Few Stayed? by Olaolufred(m): 7:11pm On Jul 25, 2021 |
jesusjnr2020: [b]This was one of the weakness of anyone going to that church (I was in that captivity for 17 years too) They can use foul languages so easily because it is rear for anyone to teach them the attitudes/character of a Christian as taught by Jesus himself in Matthew 5. My relations who goes there can say anything to anyone because even papa does that. You can slap any adult so easily when angry because papa does that. You will never hear them expatiate on the word of God as touching the works of the flesh and the fruits of the Holy spirit. Galatians 5:19-23. No wonder a fornicator can be a successful praise worship leader there. No wonder Provincial / District Pastors can inflate valuation of landed property (proposed District or Zonal Centers) so as to share the extra millions on top between themselves (one of the cases went to court because the Deacons below who broker the deal around Isheri Olofin felt cheated in the sharing). No wonder pastors can inflate cost of materials purchased by church without feeling any prick. Wetin Musa eye no go see for gate. The message about dominating the earth is 100% flawed. The Lord knows those who are his, Let every one named the name of the Lord depart from iniquity.[/b] 2 Likes 2 Shares |
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