[quote author=Kobojunkie post=104629663][/quote]

Why shouldn't I concern myself with it? U are d one making d claims so it shouldn't be a problem for u producing where in d bible u saw d things u are saying. So How is Ephesians 5 against Christ and where did Ephesians 5? Can u quote d very verse in Ephesians 5 that says so?

Any woman claiming to be a feminist who doesn't have regard for men or just dey drag position with man is just plain stupid.

I repeat, no sex is better than the other.

We should be concern about the welfare of men and women
Women nowadays are much open eyed than the women of old.

This has both positive and negative reaction to how they relate with men.

Being a feminist does not mean you hate men or you want to be equal with men.

Men have their roles to play like wise the women.

Listen Feminist, being submissive or showing respect to a man does not mean you are a fool or useless.
Any man who sees or treat you as a fool for being submissive or respectful is an IDIOT.

Dear Men, if you love and always help your wife or gf, and she in turn sees you as woman wrapper or WEAK,
One day, e go clear for her eyes.


FATALE

Odidigboigbo:
It's very easy to accuse without a prove. Just the way I can wake up and say you used your both parents for rituals. As I said earlier, upload the picture of his so called first wife, let's see if she is different from his current wife.

In 2002 the Kenyan Government expelled Winners Chapel from the Country because of its involvement with a Cult accused of Child Abductions for Ritual Killings. Here is the link

https://wwrn.org/articles/5378/

After Winners Chapel was allowed back into Kenya , in 2014 again Mutilared bodies of 2 Ritual Murders were again found around their Church Compound

Here is the video


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oqAl1KSt4C8

AmazonTopaz:


Who are the rich men because the feminist we know are still being pursued by rich men.

Who told you feminist are rebellious for asking for their rights you are not normal I am a feminist and Al kinds of men have been after me so say what you know genome doesn't take away a woman's feminine outlook if she wants to and submission is not a gendered word for females only I am not a submissive person and can never be one and I like men who are submissive who nor like better thing too

Lies from pit of hell. You will remain barren and childless with that dumb outlook. Why would any man wanna deal with a women that adopts masculine tendencies and does not wanna take on feminine roles? Think about it. What benefit can one derive from being with a feminist?

Ppogbae:


Lies from pit of hell. You will remain barren and childless with that dumb outlook. Why would any man wanna deal with a women that adopts masculine tendencies and does not wanna take on feminine roles? Think about it. What benefit can one derive from being with a feminist?

It isn't a lie you don't live my life for me.

In your small mind being feminist means masculine tendency please don't say this outside to save yourself from further embarrassment.You are a cave man what the hell are feminine roles in 2021

You don't know zilch about feminism but you seem to have the loudest opinion on the movement you are ignorant of.Anyway don't date a feminist there are many worthy men with class who do no sane feminist will agree to date a primitive man with your kind of thinking

traihit:
Understand thou, that in all thy ranting, more people have heard the man's voice than yours.

Christianity is an ideology that was never tested but yet condemned. Few are true Christians, many are Churchians. Yet, the bible is complete.

The man loves completely and the woman submit totally. There can never be chaos where the two exists.

@bold:

That's where the issue with Biblical principles are.

90% of the people on this thread shouting 'ride on pastor' do not believe the Biblical principles of marriage, sex and child training.

Is alright

AmazonTopaz:


Feminist are married,single and whatever women they choose to be.

Believing in rights for women doesn't make me rebellious but if that is what the insecure lots see it as then no problem I wear that emblem with pride.

Bunch of simpletons.

Be proud my sister!

Christistruth00:


In 2002 the Kenyan Government expelled Winners Chapel from the Country because of its involvement with a Cult accused of Child Abductions for Ritual Killings. Here is the link

https://wwrn.org/articles/5378/

Read the article you post and come back. Till tomorrow, Winnners is one of the biggest Church in Kenya.
Secondly does Oyedepo the one directly running Kenya Church?

Who pass you done pass you, get life and abstain from hate and bitterness.

AmazonTopaz:


Who are the rich men because the feminist we know are still being pursued by rich men.

Who told you feminist are rebellious for asking for their rights you are not normal I am a feminist and Al kinds of men have been after me so say what you know genome doesn't take away a woman's feminine outlook if she wants to and submission is not a gendered word for females only I am not a submissive person and can never be one and I like men who are submissive who nor like better thing too

Kobojunkie:
1. You are told that woman were cursed by God and one of these curses is that they will submit to their husbands until death.

2. Then you are told that woman has been set free from that curse by Jesus Christ, and she is no longer to submit as she is no longer cursed - this as mandated by Jesus Christ.

What part of this this an opinion to you or are you not clear about?

Jesus Christ never told you to "interpret" scripture scripture anything else. Instead, He implored that you use the understanding that you have and that only when you obey will more understanding be given you. Those who refuse to use the understanding they have will have even the little they had taken away from them - Matthew 25 vs 14 - 30

Scripture was written to you, not by God's hands, but human hands in human language to be comprehended in much the same way as you would any other idea presented you in human language, using basic human language comprehension skills to start with.

If you regarded the curse God placed on Eve and Adam as curse on women. What about the the one placed on Adam. Should we still be working, eating from our sweat?...

Because I don't even know where you re told that eve was cursed and the aftermath is that she will be in submission to her husband... What about the serpent too oh I forgot that too o...Jesus died for us all...

Men are still working hard o


Genesis 3:19 In the sweat of thy face shalt thou eat bread, till thou return unto the ground; for out of it wast thou taken: for dust thou art, and unto dust shalt thou return.

Did Jesus death cancelled this also?

Kobojunkie:


Anyone gullible enough to swallow the many lies out of this man's mouth is not just ignorant of God's Truth but gunning for the worst of punishments from God.

According to the Bible, woman was cursed, condemned by God to be ruled over by man and perish in the end - cease to exist / return to dust when she dies!

However, through Jesus Christ all who believe in Him, including women, are saved from this condemning curse(all those who live under the curse perish much like Adam), and are made equal members of the Kingdom of God.

Sadly, your Mogs have no knowledge of this and so continue to preach lies as sermons in the name of God.

Ephesians 5:22
Wives, submit to your own husbands, as to the Lord.

Maxi4you:
naso oo.. women ought to be submissive.. the devil had been feeding them with pack of lies that they are the head over men

Women or wives?
All women cannot submit to all men na. Only wives submit to their husbands. This is the misconception. Once a man has paid ur dowry, he is ur head. But if u are single, u can't in the name of trying to prove that u are not feminist or u are a wife material be submitting to any man around u. In short if u are single as a lady, ur father is still ur head. So as a single lady, u are equal with that colleague of urs at work, or that neighbor married or not. You only accord him the respect he deserves as a human and that which he commands period!

In addition, even if I am married, I cannot submit to another man married or not, I will only respect him and see him the way I see my husband. But if he chooses to disrespect me probably because that is the way he treats his wife, I will not spare him.

Kobojunkie:
The New Covenant Law, Jesus Christ, declared that He alone is Head & Master over each person who belongs to Him. And He also condemned the serving of two masters. - Matthew 23 vs 7 - 10

What is written in Ephesians 5 obviously goes against Jesus Christ, God's New Covenant Law, when it suggests that women are to submit/worship their husbands proclaiming that husbands are heads, this again against Jesus Christ's own decree, over their wives.

So when a husband and his wife obey what is written in Ephesians, they actually do so against Jesus Christ and so are not of Him

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Another very important reason why Ephesians 5 is against Jesus Christ is it suggests that Salvation that was granted us by Jesus Christ from God's curse( Genesis 3 vs 16 - 19)has no real power where the curse is concerned, as it declares that man and woman remain under even as they are under Jesus Christ.

And we know that those who are under curse will not enter into the Kingdom of Heaven. In essence, anyone living in submission to that curse in Genesis 3 vs 16 - 19 will never enter into Heaven.

And after all the declaration, Ephesians 5 said wives submit to your husbands.
Even on the day of Pentecost after Jesus had ascended, women were never counted among those who were gathered in the room.

So, say another thing to defend your absurdity

Candidlady:
[s]According to him, when the Bible says “submit yourself to your husband in everything,” women respond saying, “No, not today, that was before. Right now, nobody can do that. We are co-heirs, male and female, no difference.”[/s]


Please also tell your member to stop paying their last money as tithes

Reduce your school fees so members of your congregation could attend

Am sure if a feminist pays her tithes in millions you'd accept it



And yeah as a feminist I won't marry I'd adopt a pretty girl


ThemovementIsReal

A man called pastor can't stop it..



They find it disgusting to see men straffin men but most men are down with lesbians... Men won't see gay porns but are so comfy seeing girls tongue themselves... Hypocrites...

Y'all men are just scared that if we Al become feminist konji wil Kil you guys

Luke 11:42
“But woe to you Pharisees! For you tithe mint and rue and all manner of herbs, and pass by justice and the love of God. THESE YOU OUGHT TO HAVE DONE, WITHOUT LEAVING THE OTHERS UNDONE

Kobojunkie:
You mean African culture is against gender equality , right?

What's gender equality ?

AmazonTopaz:

Why are you wasting your time on that jeshal boy he is a school dropout hence why he is dull and unintelligent he is fond of reading trash from red pill sites and spite them as facts whereas they are just false assertions which you yourself has pointed out.

That clown is best ignored

Proving me right, women would always want to enforce ideological Orthodoxy, essentially close minded and dogmatic

He's a man not an estrogenious fellow that's how we operate with logic not anger/ bias


Feminist failure

Kobojunkie:


Anyone gullible enough to swallow the many lies out of this man's mouth is not just ignorant of God's Truth but gunning for the worst of punishments from God.

According to the Bible, woman was cursed, condemned by God to be ruled over by man and perish in the end - cease to exist / return to dust when she dies!



However, through Jesus Christ all who believe in Him, including women, are saved from this condemning curse(all those who live under the curse perish much like Adam), and are made equal members of the Kingdom of God.

Sadly, your Mogs have no knowledge of this and so continue to preach lies as sermons in the name of God.

And from your Bible
The passage where
Apostle Paul said
Women should keep silent
On a church is omitted abi ?
Or You are well endowed with holy spirit more than apostle Paul

TalkTalkTwins:
In essence, we should all be feminists not only as a commitment to women's liberation but also as a way of encouraging men to hold conversations with women on sexuality, appearance, roles, and success. Being a feminist entails championing for the rights of women and trying to make the world a better place for women.

Feminism does not entirely challenge the biological roles of each gender as it only intends to revolutionize sexism by creating equal chances and opportunities for women and men. Feminism views people as human beings and aims to tackle the social injustices that silence people's will and power to exceed social expectations. Therefore, becoming a feminist normalizes women's success and allows men to strive to achieve even more in life.

Participating in the contemporary feminism paves the way for a prosperous and all-inclusive future society. Empowering women is not equivalent to taking away opportunities from men. Teaching the community to accord equal respect to women creates a conducive environment for success. Therefore, encouraging people to become feminists tunes their minds away from cultural and social constructs that limit their understanding of gender on sexuality and roles and allows men and women to become who they want to be without restrictions.

Exactly what we are told,but their actions, especially those of the contemporary feminists negate everything you wrote up there.
Judge people not by their words but by their actions.
Modern day feminists are the most arrogant and shallow people you're going to meet out there,but they call it confident and exercising their right.
They always view any man who don't buy into their feminism whatever as sub humans and backward,and any woman who don't agree with them as modern day slaves.
They claim it's a fight for everyone,but the energy they expend in responding to male issues is totally different from the one they expend in responding to female issues.
Take for instance ,rape and domestic violence.
Any man that brings forward any case of been raped by a woman,is usually ridiculed and shamed .
And is that the same way rape issue is treated when a woman is at the receiving end ?
The man is even tagged a rapist even without no substantial evidence to prove that.
His reputation is forever damaged even without a competent court finding him guilty.


What about domestic violence ?
They always find a way to blame the man for been responsible for any pain that must have been inflicted on him by his woman.

We are not stupid.
Men are not stupid.
Men disagreeing with the whole feminism stuff have seen through your BS and have realised,you don't have any ones interest at heart, especially the male, you're rather more focused on selling dreams to our naive and beautiful women of what's basically going to destroy everyone.
The family unit has become a mess,single mothers everywhere, children lacking both motherly love and fatherly guardians are on the rise, frustrated and angry women everywhere,men staying away from marriage is becoming a common place, nudity is becoming the norm and standard for a liberal woman, divorce on the rise, government using our women for their selfish purpose and discarding them to the trash can when they are done,gay and lesbianism marraige in now becoming a norm ,just name it !

The dream you guys sold to us is now burning our world,is now creating rivalry between both genders,and you're all happy about it,right ?

We are not going to allow you and your cohorts to keep selling stupid dreams to our women,because you got absolutely nothing good to offer us.

olumike001:

If you regarded the curse God placed on Eve and Adam as curse on women. What about the the one placed on Adam. Should we still be working, eating from our sweat?...

Because I don't even know where you re told that eve was cursed and the aftermath is that she will be in submission to her husband... What about the serpent too oh I forgot that too o...Jesus died for us all...

Men are still working hard o
Genesis 3:19 In the sweat of thy face shalt thou eat bread, till thou return unto the ground; for out of it wast thou taken: for dust thou art, and unto dust shalt thou return.
Did Jesus death cancelled this also?

Jesus Christ, in John 6 vs 25 - 39 explained that those folllow Him are no longer to work for food that spoils but instead that they work for food that sustains to eternity which only He, Jesus Christ, can give them. To those who would follow Him, He declared," I am the bread that gives life and no one who comes to to will ever be hungry. No one who believes in me will ever be thirsty...".

Men still sweat to eat out of ignorance of the teachings and commandments of Jesus Christ.

AdemiAdi:

Ephesians 5:22
Wives, submit to your own husbands, as to the Lord.

The New Covenant Law, Jesus Christ, declared that He alone is Head & Master over each person who belongs to Him. And He also condemned the serving of two masters. - Matthew 23 vs 7 - 10

What is written in Ephesians 5 obviously goes against Jesus Christ, God's New Covenant Law, when it suggests that women are to submit/worship their husbands proclaiming that husbands are heads, this again against Jesus Christ's own decree, over their wives.

So when a husband and his wife obey what is written in Ephesians, they actually do so against Jesus Christ and so are not of Him

---

Another very important reason why Ephesians 5 is against Jesus Christ is it suggests that Salvation that was granted us by Jesus Christ from God's curse( Genesis 3 vs 16 - 19)has no real power where the curse is concerned, as it declares that man and woman remain under the curse even as they are under Jesus Christ.

And we know that those who are under curse will not enter into the Kingdom of Heaven. In essence, anyone living in submission to that curse in Genesis 3 vs 16 - 19 will never enter into Heaven.

Kobojunkie:

Yes I stand by my point, I know the influence religion and culture has on women and even in it's imperfections it's far superior than ideologies, I'm not ashamed men control civilization and we have brought the world to these era of progress and enlightenment, even with the wars, the chaos, we sustained civilization to these day, we know the hypocrisy and double standards in our dogma, or do you want to deny that you don't have personal subjective bias for somethings , principles and ideologies or you are fully Amoral, Na, I'm human, I respect my ancestors and God, I respect Patriachy and Masculinity

rock003:

And after all the declaration, Ephesians 5 said wives submit to your husbands.
Even on the day of Pentecost after Jesus had ascended, women were never counted among those who were gathered in the room.

So, say another thing to defend your absurdity

There were many women there in the upper room on pentecost day, and the writers of the gospel never said that when Jesus Christ ascended, that there were only male followers to witness His ascension.

Please learn to remove keep your delusions out of that which is written.

Glycolite:
What's gender equality ?

Go ask your parents about it.

niyidenrele:

And from your Bible
The passage where
Apostle Paul said
Women should keep silent
On a church is omitted abi ?
Or You are well endowed with holy spirit more than apostle Paul

Paul was not the one who should command you - he was a man just like you. Instead, Jesus Christ, God's New Covenant Law in the Kingdom of God is the one you are called to trust in and obey.
The New Covenant Law, Jesus Christ, declared that He alone is Head & Master over each person who belongs to Him. And He also condemned the serving of two masters. - Matthew 23 vs 7 - 10

What is written in Ephesians 5 obviously goes against Jesus Christ, God's New Covenant Law, when it suggests that women are to submit/worship their husbands proclaiming that husbands are heads, this again against Jesus Christ's own decree, over their wives.

So when a husband and his wife obey what is written in Ephesians, they actually do so against Jesus Christ and so are not of Him

---

Another very important reason why Ephesians 5 is against Jesus Christ is it suggests that Salvation that was granted us by Jesus Christ from God's curse( Genesis 3 vs 16 - 19)has no real power where the curse is concerned, as it declares that man and woman remain under the curse even as they are under Jesus Christ.

And we know that those who are under curse will not enter into the Kingdom of Heaven. In essence, anyone living in submission to that curse in Genesis 3 vs 16 - 19 will never enter into Heaven.

Kobojunkie:
Go ask your parents about it.

Anyone that's quick to drag others parents into a discuss, it's safe to say, they got no value and respect for their our parents.
That's one of the by products of feminism, it teaches one to have huge disregard for the family unit.
If one don't respect and value their own parents,who are at the peak of the family unit, it's unwise to expect them to have respect for other people's parent.
It break my heart to say ;your parents have failed you, or maybe they did their best, but woke culture and feminism has destroyed you so bad you got no regards for your parents.
That's very bad,sir.

Wish you healing , that's all I can do for you.
Take care and have a wonderful day.

Glycolite:

Anyone that's quick to drag others parents into a discuss, it's safe to say, they got no value and respect for their our parents.
That's one of the by products of feminism, it teaches one to have huge disregard for the family unit.
If one don't respect and value their own parents,who are at the peak of the family unit, it's unwise to expect them to have respect for other people's parent.
It break my heart to say ;your parents have failed you, or maybe they did their best, but woke culture and feminism has destroyed you so bad you got no regards for your parents.
That's very bad,sir.

Wish you healing , that's all I can do for you.
Take care and have a wonderful day.

It is during the formative years that one ought to receive training in gender equality, and this particularly from one's parents. When that training in missing, them it is imperative that such a one seek that education elsewhere although there is no guarantee of success at that point.

If you respect and value your parents, you will give them that chance to properly train you in that which you still claim to have no understanding of.

Kobojunkie:
Obviously not true since many of you here are incensed by it and not for good reason at all.

our laws are men-centric So Wat are you saying??

AmazonTopaz:


You are the one agreeing to that yourself why don't you first go and learn English so that you can easily comprehend you must have failed English language all your life.

Lol see this clown I have dealt with your likes on this forum for many years if you think you can show me pepper you are on a long thing the best I will do is ignore your dumb sorry ass it pains trolls like you if that is done to you.Slowly walk back to the initial post you quoted if you can finally comprehend what you quoted ask yourself if you aren't stupid for not being able to earlier.

Ciao

what if i failed english all my life, its not as if an american or british will pass yoruba language, it only boils down to inferiority complex nd slave mentality worrying most of you.
i don't have to go back to read what i wrote when you already stated your comment was out of context.
next time you are on mense retain some blood for the brain or can just tight rope around ur neck to stop blood from escaping your brain, i care.

Kobojunkie:
Jesus Christ, in John 6 vs 25 - 39 explained that those folllow Him are no longer to work for food that spoils but instead that they work for food that sustains to eternity which only He, Jesus Christ, can give them. To those who would follow Him, He declared," I am the bread that gives life and no one who comes to to will ever be hungry. No one who believes in me will ever be thirsty...".

Men still sweat to eat out of ignorance of the teachings and commandments of Jesus Christ.

This is funny sir.
Please did you eat the bread this morning and it came to you without work?
Did you go to school and for what purpose
Are you working,I mean either business or official work?
I still don't get how you translated that bread I mean life to the food we eat sir. When last did you eat sir?
I am sure you had only ate once since you ve been born.
Why trying to confuse yourself with the scriptures sir.
And you re still yet to point out the scriptures Christ abolished women submitting or giving honour to there husband's as you claimed the error in the book of Ephesians sir...

DEMZEE:
our laws are men-centric So Wat are you saying??

Laws are amended most every other day, even in Nigeria.