barackodam:



I'm not asking him to be sold because of performances.


I'm asking him to leave so we can face what we dread the most now.

Wouldn't it have been better if we list to Bayern, 8 - 2 without Messi playing?

Would Bayern have even scored 8 against a Messi-less Barça?

The presence of Messi infuriated them the more, and they sort to disgrace him even more.

When Messi leaves, we approach our worst fears sooner than later. That's why I'm advocating for him to leave already

Debroslink:
Truth is Messi needs one last stroll to glory before leaving Barcelona or retiring. All we need is Bartomeu to get the hell out and Laporta to handle things. A great coach will change our useless tactics of depending on Messi. Laporta will bring back La Masia. La Masia will replace some of our over-aged players.

Grieezmann, Coutinho and Dembele must not be sold for any reason. Grieezmann and Coutinho especially, need a change of tactics to flourish.

Adiwana:


Koeman is the right man.Have you seen Netherlands play under him?? I have watched plenty games since he's appointment and he fits as our system. I never understood appointing Setien taking over Valverde in the first place. Netherlands had to get rid of the Robbens and RVPs and handed the rebuilding job to him and see where they are right now. De Jong will flourish under him as he has done in the national team. This is a right step in the right direction and the was what I expected after that night at Liverpool. Next to go is Bartomeu and hopefully either Laporta or Font takes over before we can now move to field to do a massive clear out there

Sommyroy10:
Please let's conclude on this after atleast a season. We saw him at Everton. Managing a Club team is not same as a National team. Nevertheless, I sincerely hope for him to succeed here. So, Welcome Koeman.

barackodam:



I'm not asking him to be sold because of performances.


I'm asking him to leave so we can face what we dread the most now.

Wouldn't it have been better if we list to Bayern, 8 - 2 without Messi playing?

Would Bayern have even scored 8 against a Messi-less Barça?

The presence of Messi infuriated them the more, and they sort to disgrace him even more.

When Messi leaves, we approach our worst fears sooner than later. That's why I'm advocating for him to leave already

tesppidd:
Wow!

Since it has come down to cherry picking games.

Look at the second round match against Napoli;
Do you have any credible evidence that we would have crossed Napoli without Messi to coman even play the Bayern sef

Look at the group stages ; do you have any credible evidence that we would have qualified from that group stage without Messi? and then coman even play Napoli sef

tesppidd:
Wow!

Since it has come down to cherry picking games.

Look at the second round match against Napoli;
Do you have any credible evidence that we would have crossed Napoli without Messi to coman even play the Bayern sef

Look at the group stages ; do you have any credible evidence that we would have qualified from that group stage without Messi? and then coman even play Napoli sef

haymekus:
Welcome valverde 3.0

haymekus:
Welcome valverde 3.0

khingTony:

Appointing Koeman is not a brilliant move, it's a hasty decision that will have a backlash at the end

temi1290:



That man no dey ever calm down,I mean Bart

khingTony:
Seriously, there is no need to rush

khingTony:


Wetin you dey talk like this sef?

It's because Messi is in the Team that's why they can't do without him, Barcelona against Napoli without Messi will be like Napoli vs Sassuolo, but if Messi and the old guys goes, the rest will Learn to fend for themselves.

I've said this before, Barcelona needs rebuilding, and doing so with Messi will yield the same result that got us where we are today, because the new players will still be dependent on him

TLona1:
Reading comments here about Messi leaving Barcelona is quite shocking..

tesppidd:
I swear there are a lot of under cover Real Madrid fans on this thread disguising as Barca fans.

Adiwana:


Nah. I agree that the whole passtoMessi was partially what brought about our current predicament but Barca has faired fairly fine in matches he was absent. We forget Neymar stepping up and the demolition of Madrid at Santiago was done without Messi,Suarez has stepped up in games Messi has missed including his hattrick against Madrid last season,Coutinho stepping up etc. The problem for the larger part of it goes to those who has seen Suarez playing absolutely rubbish whenever Messi is around and still keeps him in the team including playing him in Champions league games he went seasons without scoring. Those like Valverde who did a great job in stabilizing the team when Neymar left but decided that we will play the whole passtoMessi. Those who had seen where we were going but decided for some reason to still keep that same Valverde in his job. Messi may be part of the problem but he is not the problem

FirstbornWds:


Brother, PasstoMessi will continue but what we need is a team that needs to understand when to shoot, pass to a better-placed player, or even knock out defenses without bothering Messi too long. If Koeman can, I'll prefer the subjects Messi, to a particular position (If he's playing the full striking position, let him stay there. If he's playing Right-wing, let him maintain there). The other teammates need to start stepping up.

Then again, Messi should start playing fewer matches. With that, other teams will concentrate on the other threats in our team than Messi. Much emphasis wouldn't be placed on him and even if it is, we'll have other players exploiting the space... Of course, we know the kind of trouble Messi brings when he can smell as much as a small space.

But asking him to leave now, under whose tutelage will those other young players grow? Nobody knows more about Barcelona and style than Messi, I feel the knowledge hasn't been impacted fully yet.

Baba still has a lot to offer.

tesppidd:
Wow!

Since it has come down to cherry picking games.

Look at the second round match against Napoli;
Do you have any credible evidence that we would have crossed Napoli without Messi to coman even play the Bayern sef

Look at the group stages ; do you have any credible evidence that we would have qualified from that group stage without Messi? and then coman even play Napoli sef

barackodam:


Yes, I personally stated it on this thread that only Messi could ride us past Bayern.

But that begs the question, how long are we going to keep relying on him to sort us out?

What happens in matches that he's human and can't do anything, who would step up?

Our over reliance on Messi is more harm than good. Yes, it's exhilarating watching Messi ride us past opposition, we'd forever keep relishing it...

My problem is, why are we holding on to him like he won't ever leave us? Why?

We haven't even started planning for life after Messi. We don't even want to have a discussion about it, because it's an insult to Messi.

Shey Messi no go leave again?

Adiwana:


Lol,this has to be the most senseless thing I've ever read. So,players are now the reason why opposition players decide to score?? So Madrid won't have have conceded 5 at Camp Nou if Ronaldo was not there?? Lol,bro wtf

barackodam:


Yes, I personally stated it on this thread that only Messi could ride us past Bayern.

But that begs the question, how long are we going to keep relying on him to sort us out?

What happens in matches that he's human and can't do anything, who would step up?

Our over reliance on Messi is more harm than good. Yes, it's exhilarating watching Messi ride us past opposition, we'd forever keep relishing it...

My problem is, why are we holding on to him like he won't ever leave us? Why?

We haven't even started planning for life after Messi. We don't even want to have a discussion about it, because it's an insult to Messi.

Shey Messi no go leave again?

barackodam:


Yes, I personally stated it on this thread that only Messi could ride us past Bayern.

But that begs the question, how long are we going to keep relying on him to sort us out?

What happens in matches that he's human and can't do anything, who would step up?

Our over reliance on Messi is more harm than good. Yes, it's exhilarating watching Messi ride us past opposition, we'd forever keep relishing it...

My problem is, why are we holding on to him like he won't ever leave us? Why?

We haven't even started planning for life after Messi. We don't even want to have a discussion about it, because it's an insult to Messi.

Shey Messi no go leave again?

pu7pl3:
Captain Cules: civil war brewing

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