Chelseafan1:


We all know how Ronaldo and Messi sometimes struggle in their NT, especially Ronaldo, even small Gotze is a WC winner, these 2 guys who will share a combined 8-ballon D'or betwn themselves come January aren't WC winners.

Can u give us NT stats of Iniesta and Ribery both were Ballon D'or finalists at some point

Iniesta and Ribery set Europe and their respective leagues on fire with their performances,Granted Hidden gives good performances in the premier league,Has Hidden replicated that form in his National Team or in Europe?

Thank goodness I have stopped quoting scallywags.

bykebyke:

Iniesta and Ribery set Europe and their respective leagues on fire with their performances,Granted Hidden gives good performances in the premier league,Has Hidden replicated that form in his National Team or in Europe?

Goodluck educating people who have made up their minds not to be honest with their ideas.

I don't know why you people are arguing over Hazard or Neymar. They might be the next rivalry, but then lets wait till then. Hazard is a good player with lots of potential.So don't try to demur him. For your info Neymar was ranked 8, Hazard 6 in FIFA 16. Neymar perception in the football fraternity is just a little better than CR7 in terms of arrogance and selfishness .

Wow... I never knew we now rate players based on the ratings given to them in FIFA football. Gosh, wonders shall never end.

People sha.

marqueetim:
I don't know why you people are arguing over Hazard or Neymar. They might be the next rivalry, but then lets wait till then. Hazard is a good player with lots of potential.So don't try to demur him. For your info Neymar was ranked 8, Hazard 6 in FIFA 16. Neymar perception in the football fraternity is just a little better than CR7 in terms of arrogance and selfishness .

They just wouldn't stop exhorting Neymar to high heavens even when Suarez is rated higher than him right now, they feel he's the next god after Messi, what about Suarez, a better player in the same team.

bykebyke:

Iniesta and Ribery set Europe and their respective leagues on fire with their performances,Granted Hidden gives good performances in the premier league,Has Hidden replicated that form in his National Team or in Europe?

Thank you, u claim they set Europe by fire, how did they achieve this, is it by the 40 goals they scored or by the 100 assists they had in Europe?? these guys were known and respected for something, it isn't only by their goals tally, they are way ahead of Hazard in the game, they play for one of the 3 best teams in the world, Last season when Chelsea got knocked out by PSG, Hazard scored a goal, if d defence wasn't shitty, we could av qualified, how was that his fault, Iniesta and Ribery couldn't have singlehandedly lit up Europe if their teammates didn't turn up well, how many trophies did CR7's number of goals win them last season??

dmcdad:
Thank goodness I have stopped quoting scallywags.

You should stop acting like ds and resorting to cheap insults just to pass a point, I apologised to u on d Chelsea thread about the other day I insulted u here, I assume u are mature enough to debate with me without name-calling, read my posts and give an objective reply.

bykebyke:

Iniesta and Ribery set Europe and their respective leagues on fire with their performances,Granted Hidden gives good performances in the premier league,Has Hidden replicated that form in his National Team or in Europe?

So you're comparing Belgian national team to Spanish's huh. How old was Ribery when he light up Europe, how old is hazard. Generally, individual award depends on team success most times. Football is a team sport not roger federer vs nadal.

I think I am also mature enough to know when to stop debating with some sects. And one of the ways of doing that is to stop quoting such persons.

Once bitten, twice shy.

I intentionally quoted Hensben because I'm about to use the same line of argument he was using to put Drogba over Henry! I don't have power to start lecturing all over that Neymar also plays the same wing with hazard in their NT, and I don't want to start seeing IQ reducing comments like - Hazard does not stay in the box..... and the most foolišh of them - it is not his responsibility to score! like WTF So Diego Costa or Lukaku are the only people meant to score in chelsea and belgium? I'm already digressing sef!

Neymar is a big stage player! since he came to barcelona + confederation cup, he has played in 4 finals, and he scored in 3!
Official MOTM in confed final
Goal.com MOTM in UCL final
1st player to score in all consecutive games from q/final to final in UCL!

What has Hazard ever done on the big stage? o well he lives up to his name - Hidden! Wait wait, I just saw a video of his heroics on big stages on YouTube

Chelseafan1 and co that were using the big stage argument to put Drogba over Henry, my above comment includes you people!

homesteady:
I intentionally quoted Hensben because I'm about to use the same line of argument he was using to put Drogba over Henry! I don't have power to start lecturing all over that Neymar also plays the same wing with hazard in their NT, and I don't want to start seeing IQ reducing comments like - Hazard does not stay in the box..... and the most foolišh of them - it is not his responsibility to score! like WTF So Diego Costa or Lukaku are the only people meant to score in chelsea and belgium? I'm already digressing sef!

Neymar is a big stage player! since he came to barcelona + confederation cup, he has played in 4 finals, and he scored in 3!
Official MOTM in confed final
Goal.com MOTM in UCL final
1st player to score in all consecutive games from q/final to final in UCL!

What has Hazard ever done on the big stage? o well he lives up to his name - Hidden! Wait wait, I just saw a video of his heroics on big stages on YouTube

Epic!

Well, if you think calling a fellow Nigerian insultive names on a faceless forum just because of a debate about two footballers (who doesn't know or care about your existence) is cool, keep up with it.

When you guys were hailing NEYMAR for his 5star skill move rating on the same FIFA 16 una no know. So it seems most of my fellow Barca fan are simply biased, Cos the fact is both have not won a zilch in their NT.

dmcdad:
Wow... I never knew we now rate players based on the ratings given to them in FIFA football. Gosh, wonders shall never end.

People sha.

homesteady:
Chelseafan1 and co that were using the big stage argument to put Drogba over Henry, my above comment includes you people!

Haba!!! me?? when was I involved in d Drogba, henry argument?

You must have mistook me for someone else o.

marqueetim:
When you guys were hailing NEYMAR for his 5star skill move performance here una no know. So it seems most of my fellow Barca fan are simply biased, Cos the fact is both have not won a zilch in their NT.

Christ!

Confederations Cup

Quite cool. But then its just a curtain raiser like the super cup. Its not in a class near your continental or World Cup title. But atleast half bread is better than none

dmcdad:

Christ!

Confederations Cup

marqueetim:
When you guys were hailing NEYMAR for his 5star skill move rating on the same FIFA 16 una no know. So it seems most of my fellow Barca fan are simply biased, Cos the fact is both have not won a zilch in their NT.

Didn't even know u are a barca fan, most of ur people here are too bias with their comparison, Since the season started, Messi and Ronaldo haven't scored nor assisted in the league yet they have tagged Hazard Hidden...lol

homesteady:
I intentionally quoted Hensben because I'm about to use the same line of argument he was using to put Drogba over Henry! I don't have power to start lecturing all over that Neymar also plays the same wing with hazard in their NT, and I don't want to start seeing IQ reducing comments like - Hazard does not stay in the box..... and the most foolišh of them - it is not his responsibility to score! like WTF So Diego Costa or Lukaku are the only people meant to score in chelsea and belgium? I'm already digressing sef!

Neymar is a big stage player! since he came to barcelona + confederation cup, he has played in 4 finals, and he scored in 3!
Official MOTM in confed final
Goal.com MOTM in UCL final
1st player to score in all consecutive games from q/final to final in UCL!

What has Hazard ever done on the big stage? o well he lives up to his name - Hidden! Wait wait, I just saw a video of his heroics on big stages on YouTube

Why emphasizing on goals, is that the only criteria to rate players. Zidane, figo, ronaldinho, nedved, canavaro didn't score tones of goals to win the most prestigious award. Most times, team success determine player individual award. Football is a team sport not roger federer vs nadal. Belgium coach blast hazard in their last match even when he was the goal scorer, Neymar was sub par against juve but his last minute tap-in made people forget his performance.
Thiery Henry(a striker) played for barca, best French squad and arsenal yet he failed to convert goals in every finals he played unlike drogba.

Chelseafan1:

Haba!!! me?? when was I involved in d Drogba, henry argument?
You must have mistook me for someone else o.

That was the general chelsea fans consensus!

marqueetim:
Quite cool. But then its just a curtain raiser like the super cup. Its not in a class near your continental or World Cup title. But atleast half bread is better than none

Hmmmm. I guess Nonsoroyalty was right all along about Hidden Ikedia.

I would never resort to arguing with anyone when it comes to the aforementioned pair. Least of all not a Cule. Thats...

I really detest it when people try to shift the goalpost just to favour their course. Talking from both sides of one's mouth aint a good thing.

If Mourinho would complain about Hazard's invisibility in the season thus far, and Wilmot did same just some days ago, then I think its time to case my rest.

Nuff said already.

homesteady:


That was the general chelsea fans consensus!

The same way some clueless and ignorant ones compare Drogba to Eto'o. Smh.

hensben:
Why emphasizing on goals, is that the only criteria to rate players. Zidane, figo, ronaldinho, nedved, canavaro didn't score tones of goals to win the most prestigious award. Most times, team success determine player individual award. Belgium coach blast hazard in their last match even when he was the goal scorer, Neymar was sub par against juve but his last minute tap-in made people forget his performance.

You should have just pretended as if you never saw my comment instead of rambling this rubbish reply!

Were you not one of the people who said Drogba was better than henry because he scored in many FA cup finals and the UCL final? Now goals are not important again shey?
My friend gerrraahia men shiit!

homesteady:


That was the general chelsea fans consensus!

Dayo, airmark and myself was against some manure fans who said Henry was 50000 times better than drogba. Henry(a striker) failed to score goals in every finals he played. Remember, He played for barca, best arsenal and French squad, he didn't turn up for clubs and country in crucial time. He was just a regular epl scorer.

homesteady:


That was the general chelsea fans consensus!

Isn't there a difference between those who argued and chelseafan1...I was not involved in the argument, just shamefully remove my name, u don't have to be cocky about it.

Someone said anybody can win the UCL with Barcelona, but we actually won the UCL when players like Alexis Sanchez, Cesc Fabregas, Zlatan Ibra were shipped out. [It wasn't because they were not good]

Another person also said Messi hasn't scored since the beginning of the season. I'll forgive the person because he/she probably had too much to drink.

If Wilmot condemned Hazard after just a match he scored the ONLY goal which wasn't even a penalty and gave the team 3 points to qualify, I wonder why u lot keep whining about goals then.

Shouldn't y'all know by now that, goals scored alone, even a deciding goal at that isn't enough to rate a player.

Yet, y'all will keep hailing goals scored as the ONLY benchmark for rating Neymar as the better player, Hazard scored the ONLY match winner, competition-qualifying goal but was still tagged the worst.

Homesteady are you reading what I am reading? Now someone said Drogba is better because he scored more important goals especially in FA and Champions League finals, while Henry did with mostly EPl games. Can you not see that they are even shooting themselves in the foot with this same argument used in the Neymar-Hazard case?

Well... Even upon realising this, these people would be adamant.

Austeenx:
Someone said anybody can win the UCL with Barcelona, but we actually won the UCL when players like Alexis Sanchez, Cesc Fabregas, Zlatan Ibra were shipped out. [It wasn't because they were not good]

Another person also said Messi hasn't scored since the beginning of the season. I'll forgive the person because he/she probably had too much to drink.

Football sin. Lets just forgive these guys. Like Jesus said; Father forgive them for they know not what they are doing saying.

You can never convince CHELSHIT FANS. ASK HENSBEN, please HENSBEN and Chelseafan1 get out of our thread. ....I dey beg ...

ArrowAssassin:
You can never convince CHELSHIT FANS. ASK HENSBEN, please HENSBEN and Chelseafan1 get out of our thread. ....I dey beg ...

I think it would be easier to convince the Devil to repent, than for them to be realistic especially when it comes to Ikedia.

Chelseafan1:


Didn't even know u are a barca fan, most of ur people here are too bias with their comparison,Since the season started, Messi and Ronaldo haven't scored nor assisted in the league yet they have tagged Hazard Hidden...lol

No one has made a fuss because at the end of the season Messi and Ronaldo will be having at least 40+goals and 20+ assists,what will Hidden end up with?

dmcdad:
Homesteady are you reading what I am reading? Now someone said Drogba is better because he scored more important goals especially in FA and Champions League finals, while Henry did with mostly EPl games. Can you not see that they are even shooting themselves in the foot with this same argument used in the Neymar-Hazard case?

Well... Even upon realising this, these people would be adamant.

Lmaoooooooooooo! The matter has tire mee ohh! I had stopped engaging that Hensben in any argument, but after seeing him using the big matches case for Drogba in Man Utd's thread, I couldn't help but relate it to this Hazard vs Neymar issue!
Now he is displaying his hypocrisy!