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Ask the PDP not me.

pedrilo:

In your attempt to come off as intelligent, you have shown to all that you're a dull person.
First of, you unintelligently assume that every southern voice is either an IPOB or O'dua. That is an affront on other ethnic groups in southern Nigeria.
Secondly, i did not exonerate the north from the same greed for power, however, within the context of southern political analysis, the yoruba has shown disregard for southern unity.
What aketi and co are trying to do with southern governors forum is paying lip service to southern unity. The southwest must pay for their treacherous ride with us in 2015.

Gej have no moral right to contest in 2015, yaradua death thwarted northerner presidency that should have started in 2007 and ended in 2015, that's why north fought to stop him from becoming acting president.
It took interventions of obj and s party leaders to allow him finish his tenure.
Pre-2011 he agreed with northerner pdp caucus in the presence of party leaders to run on a single tenure to allow presidency to back to north,that's why north supported his 2011 election if not Buhari would have defeated gej in 2011. Gej was the one that killed pdp, if Gej had step aside to allow power to go back north Buhari might not have benefited from the crisis and will definetly loose again in 2015.
If GeJ had allowed presidency to move to North by 2023 he would have had chance to complete his Tenure.

Baawahala:
The SW in 2015 supported a known bigot and Economic destroyer because they wanted to be closer to power seeing that he had large following who are mainly religious and ethnic fundamentalists.
Now the SS and SE are playing the same game, yet the SW are blackmailing them in the name of Southern Unity et all...
#youthinkyouarewise?

SW is not blackmailing anyone. You would appreciate this if you were not such an ethnocentric bigot and hater.

Southwest Governors are insisting on a Southern President in 2023. Take a break from hating and see the real meaning of what they are saying/doing.

The only way Southern President is assured is if PDP and APC field southerners. Yorubas are confident of getting the APC ticket.

The message is that Igbos should stop being coward and dishonorable cads looking to reap where they have not sown !!!

Igbos should demand what is rightfully their own for 22 years of loyal service to the PDP. I.e the 2023 Presidential ticket. PDP has produce a SW, Northern and SS Presidency with OBJ, Yar Adua and Jonathan.

What better time for the Igbo to fight the "injustice" they always shout about if not now and against their Fulani overlords in the PDP?


Afterall, if Igbos get the PDP ticket and APC also present a Southerner then 100% assured a Southerner will be President in 2023.

Igbo should simply go and fight for what is theirs or forever remain discredited and branded politcal cowards from now onwards.

Nothing for them, and deservedly so, in the APC. Yet the PDP ticket is one they fully deserve and should be fighting for rather than dragging Yorubas in APC who have more than earned their status in the ruling Party.

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ORIENTATION101:
Gej have no moral right to contest in 2015, yaradua death thwarted northerner presidency that should have started in 2007 and ended in 2015, that's why north fought to stop him from becoming acting president.
It took interventions of obj and s party leaders to allow him finish his tenure.
Pre-2011 he agreed with northerner pdp caucus in the presence of party leaders to run on a single tenure to allow presidency to back to north,that's why north supported his 2011 election if not Buhari would have defeated gej in 2011. Gej was the one that killed pdp, if Gej had step aside to allow power to go back north Buhari might not have benefited from the crisis and will definetly loose again in 2015.
If GeJ had allowed presidency to move to North by 2023 he would have had chance to complete his Tenure.

What manner of deviation is this?
We are talking south west disregard for southern unity and you have totally made this abt GEJ and the north?
So intelligent!

focus7:
Which one are they zoning to the South East that has remained loyal to the party for all these years? Umahi may be right about PDP after all. Just imagine the South where they have the lowest support is where they gave the party chairmanship, the north west is having the secretary, the South South to get publicity secretary, the South East will probably get errand boy or media warrior because the whole calculation is to zone the presidency to the north East to favour Atiku of which the South Easterners are already agitating for, the South East will prefer to Atikulate than producing the president.

They should not forget to blame it on Buhari.

The south east would get vice president.

pedrilo:

In your attempt to come off as intelligent, you have shown to all that you're a dull person.
First of, you unintelligently assume that every southern voice is either an IPOB or O'dua. That is an affront on other ethnic groups in southern Nigeria.
Secondly, i did not exonerate the north from the same greed for power, however, within the context of southern political analysis, the south west have shown disregard for southern unity for selfish purposes.
What aketi and co are trying to do with southern governors forum is paying lip service to southern unity. The southwest must pay for their treacherous ride with us in 2015.

Rubbish. You're the real dullard and a big one at that. You failed the simple test that separates insincere IPOBian bigots from the rest of sane Nigerians.

Anyone who sees "treachery" in the 2014 to 2015 conduct of the Yoruba leaders in the ACN and then APC, after the merger, yet conveniently ignores the fact that GEJ got over 40% of the total votes in the SW , is simply an irredeemable ethno-religious bigot and hater of Yorubas.

Aside GEJ's hideous misrule than meant Nigerians were very hungry for "change", it was Yoruba leaders in the APC who worked passionately for a win for APC first and then Buhari second.

We are talking the same Yoruba leaders who were peers of GEJ that he dismissed frivolously when they confronted him over his political marginalization of their ethnic group in national politics.

GEJ even taunted them with the announcement that "Igbos are the backbone of my Government". Which sane person would then expect those Yoruba leaders to work for the elongation of GEJ's rule of Nigeria?

Conversely, little mentioned by you "betrayer" brigade is the fact that Yorubas in the PDP still worked dedicatedly for Jonathan to include Fayose who delivered Ekiti for the PDP in 2015 making it the only SW State Buhari did not win.

You bigots always deliberately fail to acknowledge many Yorubas on the side of GEJ and the PDP to make everything about folks like Tinubu who were in the opposition then and obligated to work for their own candidates , political interest and Party.

This is 100% proof that your "damned if they do and damned if they dont" hate for Yorubas was in your soul long before 2015.

Smart Yorubas now understand Nigeria better. We no longer care for your insincere and hypocritical "betrayer" or "treachery" blackmail. We don't naively and foolishly believe Fulanis or Northerners are our worst enemies.

We are going for what we worked unrelentingly hard for and deserve with no apologies to anyone. We urge you to do your worst.

To your question, it's a show of master and obedient servant. Those HATERS are the obedient servant who'll never go against their master. They're even proud to say Instead of Yoruba man clinching the helms of affairs, their master would rather have it.


They'll forever be third class citizen if they do not change their ways

OneTemplate:


Indeed. What is even more pathetic is that they remain in a very predictable, self-harming and self-inflicted time warp.

Year in and year out, their obsession is fighting, hating and insulting Yorubas rather than working on their own attitude and outlook so they can be more effective players in Nigeria's national politics.

They are now a joke everyone takes for granted with even the smallest ethnic groups in Nigeria showing disdain openly for them.

What they are doing now does not help at all and even makes them look smaller than they already are.

PDP, specifically it's Fulani arm, has publicly humiliated Igbos. 22 years loyal service brushed aside casually and disdainfully.

Yet the world sees they are silent about their public humiliation at the hands of Fulanis in the PDP who refuse flatly to entertain Igbos.

Hypocritically, and in the manner of cowards, Igbo venom is only directed at Yorubas in the ruling APC Party.

What does this reveal about Igbos and their relationship with Fulanis?

If PDP are really serious about 2023 they would zone party chairmanship to south south, secretary to south east, Vice president to south west and president to north east, senate president should go to north west, while speakership should go to middle belt. If they can pull off a miracle and get zulum to decamp and run as PDP presidential candidate it would be an edge.

Baawahala:
The SW in 2015 supported a known bigot and Economic destroyer because they wanted to be closer to power seeing that he had large following who are mainly religious and ethnic fundamentalists.
Now the SS and SE are playing the same game,yet the SW are blackmailing them in the name of Southern Unity et all...
#youthinkyouarewise?

I support Igbo presidency, but give me one credible south east candidate in APC that has widespread support and has won his state for APC? I'd really like to know your thoughts.

InHeaven:
To your question, it's a show of master and obedient servant. Those HATERS are the obedient servant who'll never go against their master. They're even proud to say Instead of Yoruba man clinching the helms of affairs, their master would rather have it.


They'll forever be third class citizen if they do not change their ways

Sharp guy Igbos fear Fulanis and feel inferior to them. They are like slaves bowed and unable to raise their head to look at their masters.

Combined with how innately dishonorable most Igbos are, with a natural propensity for wanting to reap wher they have not sown, then what they are doing now should surprise no one.

It is very predictable Igbos would remain silent about the public disgrace their Fulani overlord in the PDP have heaped on them to focus on figjting the Yorubas in the APC.

In the end, we know what predictably hateful Igbos will do. If they are killing and destroying themselves in their domain, thinking they are hurting Buhari and Fulanis doing so, then obvious they will surely queue behind the same Fulanis in 2023 just to spite Yorubas.

Their 5% votes are worthless anyway so Yorubas are not bothered.

gratiaeo:

PDP are constantly winning election in south west but in your deluded mind they are not serious about PDP. What is saving APC in south west is their rigging machine, do free and fair election and see PDP winning almost all the state in south west

What are they winning?
The greatest backstabbing PDP got in her life came through Mimiko and Fayose. This says a lot mate.

If they give a northerner, I will vote massively for APC

PDP will get scence by force when they lose and have to wait another 8 years

pedrilo:

What manner of deviation is this?
We are talking south west disregard for southern unity and you have totally made this abt GEJ and the north?
So intelligent!

there was no southern coalition before 2015, APC benefited from pdp crisis caused by GEJ refusal to cede power back to the rightful owners.
South west supported buhari because truly northern deserves the presidency
After obj 8 years, Gej 6 years, power should go back to north.

OneTemplate:


Rubbish. You're the real dullard and a big one at that. You failed the simple test that separates insincere IPOBian bigots from the rest of sane Nigerians.

Anyone who sees "treachery" in the 2014 to 2015 conduct of the Yoruba leaders in the ACN and then APC, after the merger, yet conveniently ignores the fact that GEJ got over 40% of the total votes in the SW , is simply an irredeemable ethno-religious bigot and hater of Yorubas.

Aside GEJ's hideous misrule than meant Nigerians were very hungry for "change", it was Yoruba leaders in the APC who worked passionately for a win for APC first and then Buhari second.

We are talking the same Yoruba leaders who were peers of GEJ that he dismissed frivolously when they confronted him over his political marginalization of their ethnic group in national politics.

GEJ even taunted them with the announcement that "Igbos are the backbone of my Government". Which sane person would then expect those Yoruba leaders to work for the elongation of GEJ's rule of Nigeria?

Conversely, little mentioned by you "betrayer" brigade is the fact that Yorubas in the PDP still worked dedicatedly for Jonathan to include Fayose who delivered Ekiti for the PDP in 2015 making it the only SW State Buhari did not win.

You bigots always deliberately fail to acknowledge many Yorubas on the side of GEJ and the PDP to make everything about folks like Tinubu who were in the opposition then and obligated to work for their own candidates , political interest and Party.

This is 100% proof that your "damned if they do and damned if they dont" hate for Yorubas was in your soul long before 2015.

Smart Yorubas now understand Nigeria better. We no longer care for your insincere and hypocritical "betrayer" or "treachery" blackmail. We don't naively and foolishly believe Fulanis or Northerners are our worst enemies.

We are going for what we worked unrelentingly hard for and deserve with no apologies to anyone. We urge you to do your worst.

Typical south westerner.
Always talking too much.

So a Northerner can emerge Presidential candidate of the party even after Buhari has done 8years? Who is the real Fulani slave? What happens to South East Agenda? Which party will now give Presidency to Igbo? Now, Dave can be seen to be spot on. Abaribe and Co !!!! Una hypocrisy no be here...

JimiJunji:


I support Igbo presidency, but give me one credible south east candidate in APC that has widespread support and has won his state for APC? I'd really like to know your thoughts.

You guys worked against SE and SS,not only SE,so leave this your approach.
Jonathan is from SS not SE but because of SW usual parochial and selfish politics,you plunged the country into a mess...
It is not about Igbo presidency,It is about seeking who is best for the nation not considering where the person is from.
If you ask a typical Yoruba man he will name Tinubu,Osinbajo,Fashola and never considers any other Southerner.
If you ask Igbo or Ijaw man he will name Obi,Amaechi,Akinwumi,Ngozi Okonjo....you see the difference?...
As for the APC you mentioned,are those yoruba people you mentioned better than Ameachi,Umahi or Ogbonnaya Onu?...unless you are talking about having a national appeal in notoriety and corruption.

JimiJunji:


I support Igbo presidency, but give me one credible south east candidate in APC that has widespread support and has won his state for APC? I'd really like to know your thoughts.

To you credibility means corruption, hypocrisy and deception which are the features of those you have in mind.

Baawahala:

You guys worked against SE and SS,not only SE,so leave this your approach.
Jonathan is from SS not SE but because of SW usual parochial and selfish politics,you plunged the country into a mess...
It is not about Igbo presidency,It is about seeking who is best for the nation not considering where the person is from.
If you ask a typical Yoruba man he will name Tinubu,Osinbajo,Fashola and never considers any other Southerner.
If you ask Igbo or Ijaw man he will name Obi,Amaechi,Akinwumi,Ngozi Okonjo....you see the difference?...
As for the APC you mentioned,are those yoruba people you mentioned better than Ameachi,Umahi or Ogbonnaya Onu?...unless you are talking about having a national appeal in notoriety and corruption.

I respect whatever sentiments and emotions you have concerning the south west but it's also note worthy to understand that this same Jonathan was helped by a Yoruba man(obasanjo) to get to the position he was and got huge support from the south west in 2011 despite this south west leaders where pushed aside to the background and their complaints where not paid attention to. As south westerners we didn't complain or blackmail anyone or any tribe but simply put our money where our mouths were, as we speak currently in Nigeria no tribe or group owes anyone or any group their loyalty or friendship and even the Southern governors forum resolutions isn't for the benefit of the south west alone, the issue of power coming back to the south wasn't the only and major resolution, the issue of VAT and open grazing were the major issues that all sensible governors of the region agreed to; so nobody is begging for a southern unity because it would all be in our interest. That said, I have no problem with ameachi running for president but he's from the south south and the clamour is for a president from the south east, as for umahi he hasn't spent up to two years in APC, he didn't become governor of eboyin through APC how are you certain that he'd be able to even win his state in a region that historically favors PDP? Ogbonnaya Onu is a credible candidate and a foundational member of APC and Yoruba's won't forget his support of olu falae in the 1999 elections but he also comes from a state that is has been historically governed by PDP, before he appeals to national politics can he appeal to his state and region to give him block votes that the party really needs? It's not about being emotional about issues like this but critically trying to understand the politics behind it.

gratiaeo:

So where do you want PDP candidate to come from?

any where from South, SE Region is the rightful next, if they are coward and timid to go for it, then SS region can take it, if them too feel the same then SW should take it,

Baawahala:

To you credibility means corruption, hypocrisy and deception which are the features of those you have in mind.

Well, it's hypocrisy to speak like the one's you have in mind aren't corrupt and deceitful.

JimiJunji:


I respect whatever sentiments and emotions you have concerning the south west but it's also note worthy to understand that this same Jonathan was helped by a Yoruba man(obasanjo) to get to the position he was and got huge support from the south west in 2011 despite this south west leaders where pushed aside to the background and their complaints where not paid attention to. As south westerners we didn't complain or blackmail anyone or any tribe but simply put our money where our mouths were, as we speak currently in Nigeria no tribe or group owes anyone or any group their loyalty or friendship and even the Southern governors forum resolutions isn't for the benefit of the south west alone, the issue of power coming back to the south wasn't the only and major resolution, the issue of VAT and open grazing were the major issues that all sensible governors of the region agreed to; so nobody is begging for a southern unity because it would all be in our interest. That said, I have no problem with ameachi running for president but he's from the south south and the clamour is for a president from the south east, as for umahi he hasn't spent up to two years in APC, he didn't become governor of eboyin through APC how are you certain that he'd be able to even win his state in a region that historically favors PDP? Ogbonnaya Onu is a credible candidate and a foundational member of APC and Yoruba's won't forget his support of olu falae in the 1999 elections but he also comes from a state that is has been historically governed by PDP, before he appeals to national politics can he appeal to his state and region to give him block votes that the party really needs? It's not about being emotional about issues like this but critically trying to understand the politics behind it.

Hahaha....A Yoruba man,the one you guys hate because he has a nationalist mindset.
The one who lost elections in his backyard and yet became president. You just wanted him to be a Yoruba president as against a Nigerian president but now you claim him as your son!!!...

Baawahala:


Hahaha....A Yoruba man,the one you guys hate because he has a nationalist mindset.
The one who lost elections in his backyard and yet became president. You just wanted him to be a Yoruba president as against a Nigerian president but now you claim him as your son!!!...

People's opinions of obasanjo in the south west is mixed. But even him withdrew his support for Jonathan in 2015.

emmykk:
Olusengu Obasanjo and Goodluck Jonathan enjoyed and benefited when PDP zone it to the south.it is time it is zone to the north.

Those that will not like this information are the yorubas who are glamouring for power to shift to the south but must be them that will get it.

How the yoruba went for VP over Southern president is the problem everyone is enjoying now.

Since they already claimed they helped the current president get to power by voting failure PRO MAX back to back and as such should be rewarded with the presidency come 2023 .
There is smart sense in that. The APC will surely give them the ticket as expected.
However that is if this new PDP northern candidate joker of 2023 don't scare APC Northern Cabal.

Now how a kano , kaduna,Bornu,sokoto and etc of Northern state will vote a yoruba over and hausa/fulani man in 2023 will be very interesting and not to mention that the South south and south east may not vote a yoruba either.

The yorubas will be quick to mention MKO and Tofa election yet MKO never become president neither will they recalled that that annulled victory was the common determination of all Nigerians north and south to kick out military rule that was enjoyed by northern then.

As a political follower of Nigerian politics
The southern components of Nigeria must agree on something otherwise the north will continue to rule.
They have the numbers,tricks and united.
While the south are divided.

I m from Delta state in south south.

You're saying this because the Southeast has no chance at all again.Who are really the agitators for a southern president, especially for the Southeast? Not the Igbos again?

JimiJunji:


I respect whatever sentiments and emotions you have concerning the south west but it's also note worthy to understand that this same Jonathan was helped by a Yoruba man(obasanjo) to get to the position he was and got huge support from the south west in 2011 despite this south west leaders where pushed aside to the background and their complaints where not paid attention to. As south westerners we didn't complain or blackmail anyone or any tribe but simply put our money where our mouths were, as we speak currently in Nigeria no tribe or group owes anyone or any group their loyalty or friendship and even the Southern governors forum resolutions isn't for the benefit of the south west alone, the issue of power coming back to the south wasn't the only and major resolution, the issue of VAT and open grazing were the major issues that all sensible governors of the region agreed to; so nobody is begging for a southern unity because it would all be in our interest. That said, I have no problem with ameachi running for president but he's from the south south and the clamour is for a president from the south east, as for umahi he hasn't spent up to two years in APC, he didn't become governor of eboyin through APC how are you certain that he'd be able to even win his state in a region that historically favors PDP? Ogbonnaya Onu is a credible candidate and a foundational member of APC and Yoruba's won't forget his support of olu falae in the 1999 elections but he also comes from a state that is has been historically governed by PDP, before he appeals to national politics can he appeal to his state and region to give him block votes that the party really needs? It's not about being emotional about issues like this but critically trying to understand the politics behind it.

You guys always bring up points to discredit others while showcasing criminals, hypocrites,pretenders and deceivers as the best option.To you the only credible candidates in the South are the ones from south West...
Mention Ngozi,Ameachi,Onu,Obi, even Akinwumi from your tribe you will spring up reasons upon reasons why they are not fit.
You just need a bigot,criminal, hypocrite from your tribe.
It is only Akinwumi that I see from SW,Igbos even have more leaders with a nationalistic view than those unsteady elements from your tribe.

BJanta:


You're saying this because the Southeast has no chance at all again.Who are really the agitators for a southern president, especially for the Southeast? Not the Igbos again?

When the south west,south south and south east agreed in justice and equity and agreed to present a common candidate that is when power shift will come to the south but as it is now I don't see that coming.
I m from delta state I have sympathy for south East for they should have be given a chance when power return but it seems in the south there are other greedy fellows this is what the north will capitalize on and rule continuously.

It is very sad but that is the reality.
You know the truth like many others but greedy and ethnicity will blind us.

Baawahala:

You guys always bring up points to discredit others while showcasing criminals, hypocrites,pretenders and deceivers as the best option.To you the only credible candidates in the South are the ones from south West...
Mention Ngozi,Ameachi,Onu,Obi, even Akinwumi from your tribe you will spring up reasons upon reasons why they are not fit.
You just need a bigot,criminal, hypocrite from your tribe.
It is only Akinwumi that I see from SW,Igbos even have more leaders with a nationalistic view than those unsteady elements from your tribe.

And the issue here is that you've brought no practical points to this conversation, plus I've not even pushed any candidate from the south west but you immediately made an assumption about the leaders from the south west that I support which is simply bigotry and ethnic bias. I haven't said I am against ameachi and I personally think that he'd make a good candidate, ngozi okonjo also not a bad candidate but have you asked her if she plans to leave her job as WTO boss to be president? Are you sure that the conservative north is ready for a female president? On Mr Onu I've already explained his case for you, and I have no problem with Peter Obi becoming president but obviously he'd need to get that ticket from PDP a party which he is a member of, and Akinwunmi Adeshina is also a good candidate but it also depends on if he plans on running for office which I doubt. Understand that politics isn't about being emotional.

Ruggedniggaone:
shut up with your stupid game! you are not saying this in the interest of justice equity and fairness.pdp given igbo their tickets will automatically hand over 2023 to apc who may present Yoruba which will get northern backing and God forbid another apc government affliction will not rise again.ipob no elections in biafra will really affect pdp igbo candidate tickets stop playing with our emotions the only surest way for pdp to win is northern candidate if apc really serious and care abt Southern candidate let them give igbo their presidential ticket

You just acknowledged there is no Ibo alive who can withstand any Yoruba presidential candidate unless Ibo hides behind the trouser of a Fulani big brother. The same Fulani you say is your enemy and decided your fate never to rule Nigeria. We knew all along that your cry of marginalization is false, as you have no real desire to get 2023 presidency. All you care about most is multiple appointments where looting can take place, you never cared for roads or infrastructure when your people were in power and running things under Obasanjo or GEJ.

If you care about the success of the country why not present Adesina, Okonjo-Iweala, Soludo instead of Atiku that is certain theft and failure assured?
You only care about PDP being in power, nothng else, yet the party rates you next to sewage
You will learn a bitter lesson in politics in the next few months take it to the bank

Ruggedniggaone:
exactly if apc really serious and care about southern candidate let them give it to umahi or any igbo candidate

Why should APC care about Ibo president when PDP you have labored under for 24 years doesn't care about it?

How will people labour for 8 years and hand over the benefits to a new joiner of 6 months? Where is that done/

JimiJunji:
If PDP are really serious about 2023 they would zone party chairmanship to south south, secretary to south east, Vice president to south west and president to north east, senate president should go to north west, while speakership should go to middle belt. If they can pull off a miracle and get zulum to decamp and run as PDP presidential candidate it would be an edge.

Well spoken!! You are a true Yoruba son

Ovamboland:


Why should APC care about Ibo president when PDP you have labored under for 24 years doesn't care about it?

How will people labour for 8 years and hand over the benefits to a new joiner of 6 months? Where is that done/

The NE as the greatest contributor of votes to APC should have the ticket.

In terms of votes contribution NE is second behind NW then NC.The SW is not even in top 3

Ovamboland:


You just acknowledged there is no Ibo alive who can withstand any Yoruba presidential candidate unless Ibo hides behind the trouser of a Fulani big brother. The same Fulani you say is your enemy and decided your fate never to rule Nigeria. We knew all along that your cry of marginalization is false, as you have no real desire to get 2023 presidency. All you care about most is multiple appointments where looting can take place, you never cared for roads or infrastructure when your people were in power and running things under Obasanjo or GEJ.

If you care about the success of the country why not present Adesina, Okonjo-Iweala, Soludo instead of Atiku that is certain theft and failure assured?
You only care about PDP being in power, nothng else, yet the party rates you next to sewage
You will learn a bitter lesson in politics in the next few months take it to the bank

Oga we will not contest in 2023.Tinubu(if at all he will even win the APC ticket) can go and contest against Atiku or Tambuwal