Ibkhaleel01:
Christianity is dead and burried! A false man made cult!


THE NAME:

(a) The name 'Christianity'- Is it really a valid name? If so, where is it recorded? In other words, where is its identity certificate?

(b) Who has given the name? Or, who is the certifying authority?

The name 'Christian' was used for the first time in Antioch, as we read in the Bible: Acts (11:25-26):

�Then departed Barnabas to seek Saul: and when he had found him, he brought him unto Antioch. And It came to pass, that a whole year they assembled themselves with the church, and taught much people. And the disciples were called Christians first in Antioch.�

Who had given this name? Neither God nor Jesus.

We can mention the following points concerning the name 'Christianity':

1. The name does not bear the authority from God or from Jesus.

2. It was given by Jews and Pagans in Antioch (a city in the then Roman Empire), i.e., by foes rather than by friends.

3. The name was given after Jesus had left this world.

4. The name was used derogatorily, as determined by historians.

One may contend, What is there in a name? The name does not matter. This may not be a valid argument, but still for the sake of argument, let us then proceed to look for its meaning.

chiedu7:
This shows the bible is REAL, unlike the most peaceful religion on earth that lacks any archeological evidence


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JOWFPTzK7D4

gimakon2:


Why not have patience for the last days then we would know who is saying the truth and who isnt?
This is how you want to win adherents for islam? By talking complete shenanigans of a book Mohammed plagarised? shame on you. Your Sheikhs and co re total embarassments if you ask me. Day go.

Bible is a lie , Christianity is false, yet you muslims want to run to Christian Nations to seek jobs as well as good life. shame on you.

Sheunma:
Everything that's been said, written or discovered about God has been purely human efforts. No more.

God spoke to individuals, talked from the skies to multitude of people, used people to perform incredible miracles like: splitting of the moon, parting of the red sea, making animals talk,killing first born of Egyptians, flooding the entire earth etc etc. All these were written down by people when there was no other means of keeping records.

Today, we got video cameras. We got powerful audio recorders and photo cameras many times sensitive and powerful than the human eyes.

Question: Why is it that everything written in religious books about God and his prophets suddenly stopped after humanity developed audio- visual means of record keeping?

chiedu7:
This shows the bible is REAL, unlike the most peaceful religion on earth that lacks any archeological evidence


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JOWFPTzK7D4

Sheunma:
Everything that's been said, written or discovered about God has been purely human efforts. No more.

God spoke to individuals, talked from the skies to multitude of people, used people to perform incredible miracles like: splitting of the moon, parting of the red sea, making animals talk,killing first born of Egyptians, flooding the entire earth etc etc. All these were written down by people when there was no other means of keeping records.

Today, we got video cameras. We got powerful audio recorders and photo cameras many times sensitive and powerful than the human eyes.

Question: Why is it that everything written in religious books about God and his prophets suddenly stopped after humanity developed audio- visual means of record keeping?

KingOvo:
Religious people are very choosy when it comes to science. If this was some scientific finding that says that certain species predate man, or that the earth is xyz year old, you will hear them speaking against it, but now that it supports and validates their beliefs, it is a wankfest here

oluwafeolami:


Is this what your Bible tells you? Because someone doesn’t believe ur way u call her daughter of perdition, ok ooo Gods secretary, na u know oooo. Keep it up shogbo

FlipModeSquade:
Fanatic Bigoted F@ggot..

Ibkhaleel01:
Many are skeptical because they have been so brain washed for centuries. In the present time, when one listens to some of the TV Evangelists .......

Ibkhaleel01:
The one who said "love your enemies", Luke 6:27 or the one that said "But as for these enemies of mine who did not want me to be king over them"bring them here and slaughter them in my presence", Luke 19:27.

Ibkhaleel01:
The one who said "Be merciful just as your father is merciful", Luke 6:36, or the one who said "he did not come to give peace on earth, but rather division", Luke 12:51.

Ibkhaleel01:
The one who said "honor your father and mother", Matthew 15:4, or the one who called his mother "Woman", John 2:4?

Ibkhaleel01:
The one who said "if someone slaps you on your right cheek, turn the other to him", Matthew 5:39, or the one who went to the temple and drove people out and overturned the tables, Matthew 21:12?

Ibkhaleel01:
The one who said have "peace with one another", Mark 9:50 or the one who said he "did not come to bring peace but a sword", Matthew 10:34?

♦ The one who said "forgive, and you will be forgiven", Luke 6:37, or the one who said "if your hand or foot causes you to sin, cut it off and cast it from you", Matthew 18:8?

As a Muslim, I understand both sides, because Jesus, like Muhammad, was both merciful when mercy was required and powerful when power was required. God himself has both heavens and hellfire. Yet half the truth Evangelists never failed to present only the merciful side of Jesus and only the powerful side of Muhammad.

chiedu7:
This shows the bible is REAL, unlike the most peaceful religion on earth that lacks any archeological evidence


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JOWFPTzK7D4

Bacteriologist:
The Spiderman comics also features New York and London. That does not make Spiderman a real figure.

The Harry Potter book as well contains some real life locations but we all agree it is fiction.


Your book may contain actual locations and objects, but that does not necessarily mean the stories and claims about the locations and objects are true.


The Bible is a book that has been edited, translated, re-edited and re-translated so many f*ckin times. Many of the biblical books were written decades after the events they talk about happened. Some books centuries after. As the evidence shows, no single eyewitness wrote the bible. It is a book filled with myths, contradictions and other sorts of superstitious nonsense. Discovering some mountain out of the blue changes nothing.

compton11:
How come they know it is that place?

Imagine niggas they ain't up to 1000 years on earth would be telling us how old is this and this

ReacherSaidNoth:
This silly thread is like saying the presence of the pyramids proves that the Egyptian pantheon is true. Or maybe we should also say that Zeus is real because mount Olympus exists.

Yahweh worshippers, is it not pitiful that your imported god depends on your ridiculous efforts to prove himself?

ExAngel007:


You guys still believe all these craps?

Sheunma:
Everything that's been said, written or discovered about God has been purely human efforts. No more.

God spoke to individuals, talked from the skies to multitude of people, used people to perform incredible miracles like: splitting of the moon, parting of the red sea, making animals talk,killing first born of Egyptians, flooding the entire earth etc etc. All these were written down by people when there was no other means of keeping records.

Today, we got video cameras. We got powerful audio recorders and photo cameras many times sensitive and powerful than the human eyes.

Question: Why is it that everything written in religious books about God and his prophets suddenly stopped after humanity developed audio- visual means of record keeping?

compton11:
How come they know it is that place?

Imagine niggas they ain't up to 1000 years on earth would be telling us how old is this and this

chiedu7:
This shows the bible is REAL, unlike the most peaceful religion on earth that lacks any archeological evidence


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JOWFPTzK7D4

enonche85:


It is called the science of Archaeology.

victorazy:


...but it was written.

lawkenoz:


While this part of your comment seems true about brainwashing and televangelist being cunny and deceptive, you are no better than them with your mixing of half truths and outright twisting of the bible to pass your obvious falsehoods. And I'll expose your animosity clouded as being logical and analytical.



You took Luke chapter completely out of context to tell a bold faced lie. Jesus was telling the parable about a master and his servants and his charge to them before he left on his journey. The parable starts from verse 11 up to verse 27 you conveniently edited out. A parable is story used to pass a lesson. Incase you don't know what it means.



Here again you commit the same falsehood as the first, pick a verse and take it out of context. This passage was clear and meant that a person who choose to follow him and his teachings would become an enemy even to his own people. Which is a simple statement of how people oppose the beliefs of others especially when it exposes thier own inadequacies. Hence it will bring division.



If you understand any idea about christianity you should know Jesus birth wasn't a normal one. Many christian denominations have the same problem with Catholics for this same reason on how mary should be honoured. Calling your mother woman doesn't go all the way to show if he honoured her not. Honouring a person is in your actions and deeds not what you say necessarily.




Again false comparison, he drove the merchants out of the temple to show that the house of God was not a place for business. Infact the bible said it angered him. Turn the other cheek was among the beatitudes of peace making. Chirstians understand it as not actively seeking trouble and avoiding conflict at any cost.



No you don't understand both sides but just your side. I can go on and on on your falsehoods and frankly it's tiring. Chirstians see chirst as God and moslems see him as a prophet. The two positions are radically different, so don't think you understand the Christain point of view cuz you don't.

You can disagree with it which is fine and within your rights but rather than focus on Christains and thier problems, I suggest you focus on your Muslim faith that commands death for apostates, and defenestration for homosexuality. You have a lot of doctrinal issues to fix within Islam first to make it compatible with modern society before you turn your eyes on the chirstians.

Looking for out of context verses to butress your false stance shows you neither read the verses you quoted not understood them, I'm guessing you copied them from anti Christain web posts on the internet. If you wanna argue better I suggest you read the chapters of the verse you quoted. Hopefully your ignorance will shrink on the matter and you can make your positions more refined!

Franking:


The Bible was written by men like u.

lawkenoz:


While this part of your comment seems true about brainwashing and televangelist being cunny and deceptive, you are no better than them with your mixing of half truths and outright twisting of the bible to pass your obvious falsehoods. And I'll expose your animosity clouded as being logical and analytical.



You took Luke chapter completely out of context to tell a bold faced lie. Jesus was telling the parable about a master and his servants and his charge to them before he left on his journey. The parable starts from verse 11 up to verse 27 you conveniently edited out. A parable is story used to pass a lesson. Incase you don't know what it means.



Here again you commit the same falsehood as the first, pick a verse and take it out of context. This passage was clear and meant that a person who choose to follow him and his teachings would become an enemy even to his own people. Which is a simple statement of how people oppose the beliefs of others especially when it exposes thier own inadequacies. Hence it will bring division.



If you understand any idea about christianity you should know Jesus birth wasn't a normal one. Many christian denominations have the same problem with Catholics for this same reason on how mary should be honoured. Calling your mother woman doesn't go all the way to show if he honoured her not. Honouring a person is in your actions and deeds not what you say necessarily.




Again false comparison, he drove the merchants out of the temple to show that the house of God was not a place for business. Infact the bible said it angered him. Turn the other cheek was among the beatitudes of peace making. Chirstians understand it as not actively seeking trouble and avoiding conflict at any cost.



No you don't understand both sides but just your side. I can go on and on on your falsehoods and frankly it's tiring. Chirstians see chirst as God and moslems see him as a prophet. The two positions are radically different, so don't think you understand the Christain point of view cuz you don't.

You can disagree with it which is fine and within your rights but rather than focus on Christains and thier problems, I suggest you focus on your Muslim faith that commands death for apostates, and defenestration for homosexuality. You have a lot of doctrinal issues to fix within Islam first to make it compatible with modern society before you turn your eyes on the chirstians.

Looking for out of context verses to butress your false stance shows you neither read the verses you quoted not understood them, I'm guessing you copied them from anti Christain web posts on the internet. If you wanna argue better I suggest you read the chapters of the verse you quoted. Hopefully your ignorance will shrink on the matter and you can make your positions more refined!

ReacherSaidNoth:
This silly thread is like saying the presence of the pyramids proves that the Egyptian pantheon is true. Or maybe we should also say that Zeus is real because mount Olympus exists.

Yahweh worshippers, is it not pitiful that your imported god depends on your ridiculous efforts to prove himself?

xrenzy:
it has it own research finding and proofs too besides this is not our issues right now is this bad government

Orlarmeday:


Islam does not need the any archeological evidence from the West before we believe and follow it. Compelling evidences are in the Quran for those who are on the right path. Why don't you concentrate on your own religion and try to look for the original Bible instead of the one that the West gave you?

Prince001:


Wowww, why are some people so gullible? Islam believes in Abraham, Moses and Jesus cos they are all mention in it. All the prophet I mentioned about were not xtian. All the religion got archaeological evidence that's attributed to it.
Search for knowledge, not just saying something without researching anything!!!!!!

Murjem:
You are such an illiterate..

Go study the Qur'an first before making such unguarded remarks.

HarunaWest:

Are you aware that Prophet Moses was a Jewish prohpet. Are you aware that he wrote the Holy Torah.. Are you aware that all religions acknowledge him?
Are you aware?

WaffenSS:


How so little you're educated.

Islam has the closest affinity to Christianity (not the modern bastardized one) than Christianity has with Judaism.

The bible is a holy book in Islam, one of three which includes the old and new testaments and the Quran.

Most of the biblical stories of the ancient prophets and prophecies in the bible are retold in the Quran, such as the great flood of Noah, Lot and his wife and the fate of Sodom and Gomorrah, the Exodus, Moses and Aaron vs Pharaoh, the immaculate conception, the holy ghost.

Most of the Arabic names reflect their Hebrew (latinized) counterparts:

Musa is Moses
Harun is Aaron
Ishaq is Isaac
Yusuf is Joseph
Yaqub is Jacob
Isa is Jesus (whose real name is not Jesus but Yeshua)
Ibrahim is Abraham

Etc.

There's a chapter in the Quran dedicated to Mary mother of Jesus (Maryam).

The shari'a laws closely resemble the Mosaic laws of the old testament.

The Quran even foretold the end of days and the return of Jesus.

Educate yourself on theology, especially about the Abrahamic religions (Judaism, Christianity, and Islam), before spewing nonsensical CAN propaganda and pentecostal dogma.

Slickest:

Only if you will open your mind, Islam never voided the Bible. The Bible is called injil in arabic and it the gospel of Jesus Christ. the fight for religious supremacy has beclouded most people's sense of reasoning and stamped "joke" on other people's faith and beliefs. Open your mind and make researches, one of the reasons you are learned, put it to use and stop subjecting yourself to "my pastor said".

compton11:
Written where?

bottlewater1:
You people should leave this one for now help me find where I can see money to start business please