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Re: You're A Traveller Praying Behind A Imam, Can You Still Shorten Your Solah? by Terrence99: 1:05pm On Oct 08, 2021
Ibkhaleel01:

Following are some rights, which Muslim women have!

1. The RIGHT and duty to acquire education.

2. The RIGHT to have her own independent property.

3. The RIGHT to work [job or business] to earn money, which she keeps it.

4. The RIGHT to equal reward for equal deed and/or work.

5. The RIGHT to express her opinion.

6. The RIGHT to argue and/or advocate her cause or opinion to be heard.

7. The RIGHT to vote since 1,421 years.

8. The RIGHT to provisions from her husband for all her needs and more.

9. The RIGHT to negotiate marriage terms of her choice.

10.The RIGHT to obtain divorce from her husband, even on the grounds that she simply don't like him. In Islaam divorce is suppose to be last resort.

11.The RIGHT to keep all her own money. [She is not responsible for maintenance of family].

12.The RIGHT to get sexual satisfaction from her husband.

13.The RIGHT to get custody of her children in case of divorce [unless she is unable to raise them for valid reasons]

14.The RIGHT to choose husband of her choice.

15.The RIGHT to refuse a proposed and/or arranged marriage.

16. The RIGHT to re-marry after divorce or after becoming widow.

EXEMPTIONS GIVEN TO WOMEN IN CERTAIN CIRCUMSTANCE.

Women are exempt from:

a.. Fasting when they are pregnant or nursing or menstruating,
b.. Praying when menstruating or bleeding after childbirth,
c.. The obligation to attend congregational prayers in the mosque on Fridays.
d.. They are not obliged to take part as soldiers in the defense of Islam, although they are not forbidden to do so.
But under normal circumstances they are allowed to do all the things that men do.

- Even when they are menstruating, on special days, like the two Eid festivals, they are still allowed to come to the Eid prayers, and menstruating women can take part in most of the actions of the Hajj pilgrimage.

Islamic laws does not requires that women should confine themselves to household duties.

Muslim women have [and are as well] headed Islamic provinces [and states as well], like Arwa bint Ahmad, who served as governor of Yemen under the Fatimid Khalifahs in the late fifth and early sixth century.

Name any other religion, political theory, or philosophy which offers such a comprehensiveness to women by giving her total control of her life and affairs NONE

Think on this!

Men are promised 72 virgins, what does the Quran promise women in Al-Jannah?
Re: You're A Traveller Praying Behind A Imam, Can You Still Shorten Your Solah? by chigator2: 1:35pm On Oct 08, 2021
Topzee109:


You know nothing about Islam, so just shut up

Less than 2 Hrs In and your Brothers In Faith have struck again.

100+ Dead in Afghanistan Child Suicide Bombing.
Re: You're A Traveller Praying Behind A Imam, Can You Still Shorten Your Solah? by Topzee109: 1:42pm On Oct 08, 2021
chigator2:


Less than 2 Hrs In and your Brothers In Faith have struck again.

100+ Dead in Afghanistan Child Suicide Bombing.
Shebi that's outside the country, even outside Africa, did you know the source of the blast, no, but

What about your brothers, ipob, ugm esn who have been killing themselves for some months now

We are now used to 10 people were killed by unknown gunmen Every night

Before we sleep at night, there must be a post of calamity in the East sha by your bloodsucking brothers



Hypocrites oshi
Re: You're A Traveller Praying Behind A Imam, Can You Still Shorten Your Solah? by Unlettered: 1:43pm On Oct 08, 2021
k4kenny:


I've decided a while back to simply stop responding to posts made by bigots but I feel it'll be unjust to leave you with your misunderstanding of our Deen.

@Bolded, Islam is against random acts of violence, forget what the media and those who misquote the Qu'ran say. Islamis a deen balanced on Imaan(faith) and 'amal(deeds). If you pray from morning to night and don't balance it with sincere good deeds, your bad acts will be used against you on the Day of reocmpense. Conversely, if you engage in charitable acts and don't balance it with sincere acts of worship to Allah, the deeds will carry no weight on the Day.



As Allah repeatedly states in the Qur'an BOTH have to be sincererly fulfilled if one hopes to meet with his Lord in the Hereafter.

And Allah knows best.

Ma salaam.

Exactly what i was trying to let the poster understand. But he bent on putting words into my mouth and not reading what i wrote. They re too emotional which resulted to them reading to reply and not to understand.

Thank you
Re: You're A Traveller Praying Behind A Imam, Can You Still Shorten Your Solah? by chigator2: 1:54pm On Oct 08, 2021
Topzee109:

Shebi that's outside the country, even outside Africa, did you know the source of the blast, no, but

What about your brothers, ipob, ugm esn who have been killing themselves for some months now

We are now used to 10 people were killed by unknown gunmen Every night

Before we sleep at night, there must be a post of calamity in the East sha by your bloodsucking brothers

Hypocrites oshi

Baba leave IPOB, UGM and ESN out of your Weak Sympathy for terrorism.

I won't address that because the crime is now attributed to these groups both independent and orchestrated ones, just to tarnish the image of the struggle for BIAFRA ACTULISATION.
Because it will serve no Biafran Group good PR to go on a killing spree of innocent common-place civilians. If the case was with the armed forces as victims of violence, then these lies would be believable.

We onsite, know more than those online ( you ); so leave it to us to sieve out the detractors in due time. No going back on Biafra.

This is also a friendly reminder, that we have sworn with our lives that ISLAM and terrorism with never get a footprint in Ala Igbo. It is already too small for us talkless of accommodating strange and dubious elements and beliefs. We resisted your Usman dan Fodio and your forefathers and we will do the same till infinite posterity.
Re: You're A Traveller Praying Behind A Imam, Can You Still Shorten Your Solah? by AbuAeesha: 1:54pm On Oct 08, 2021
جزاكم الله بخيرا May Allah reward with goodness
Re: You're A Traveller Praying Behind A Imam, Can You Still Shorten Your Solah? by Lectuwaire(m): 2:08pm On Oct 08, 2021
Lukgaf:
One of the mercy of Islam is that if you are a traveller, you are permitted to shorten Solat Dhur, Asr and Ishai from 4 to 2 rakahs. This is called Qos'r (refer to the thread where this has been exclusively discussed). You can do this when you're praying alone or you lead others in Solah as imam. What if you are praying behind a resident Imam who will complete the length of the Solah? Are you still going to shorten the length? Below thread provides an answer to this question




Source: IslamQA
Alhamdulillah, may Allah blessing be with you. Wallahi I have been doing this mistake but I have now see the light. Thanks a lot.
Re: You're A Traveller Praying Behind A Imam, Can You Still Shorten Your Solah? by Gratitudes081(m): 2:52pm On Oct 08, 2021
Re: You're A Traveller Praying Behind A Imam, Can You Still Shorten Your Solah? by Topzee109: 4:10pm On Oct 08, 2021
chigator2:


Baba leave IPOB, UGM and ESN out of your Weak Sympathy for terrorism.

I won't address that because the crime is now attributed to these groups both independent and orchestrated ones, just to tarnish the image of the struggle for BIAFRA ACTULISATION.
Because it will serve no Biafran Group good PR to go on a killing spree of innocent common-place civilians. If the case was with the armed forces as victims of violence, then these lies would be believable.

We onsite, know more than those online ( you ); so leave it to us to sieve out the detractors in due time. No going back on Biafra.

This is also a friendly reminder, that we have sworn with our lives that ISLAM and terrorism with never get a footprint in Ala Igbo. It is already too small for us talkless of accommodating strange and dubious elements and beliefs. We resisted your Usman dan Fodio and your forefathers and we will do the same till infinite posterity.
See foolishness, i should leave what is happening at my backyard alone and talking about taliban abi


Wait i want to ask something, have you ever seen these people you call terrorists, or have they come to visit you or have any of your members being victims of their atrocities or did you have any evidence aside the media,
Note : am not saying they do not exist

You guys will criticize Muslims in your locality for crimes committed by people far away, you will insult Islam just because it's done in an Islamic area


But when it comes to your sect or religion, then religion doesn't matter


When it comes to crime like drug dealing, kidnapping, ritualism that happens on a daily basis, religion doesn't matter.
Re: You're A Traveller Praying Behind A Imam, Can You Still Shorten Your Solah? by chigator2: 5:43pm On Oct 08, 2021
Topzee109:

See foolishness, i should leave what is happening at my backyard alone and talking about taliban abi


Wait i want to ask something, have you ever seen these people you call terrorists, or have they come to visit you or have any of your members being victims of their atrocities or did you have any evidence aside the media,
Note : am not saying they do not exist

You guys will criticize Muslims in your locality for crimes committed by people far away, you will insult Islam just because it's done in an Islamic area


But when it comes to your sect or religion, then religion doesn't matter


When it comes to crime like drug dealing, kidnapping, ritualism that happens on a daily basis, religion doesn't matter.

I lost 2 relatives in the Nyanya Bombings 2014 carried out by Muslim Faith.fools. This happened in my life not in some movie or media.

You should be ashamed of yourself and your types. Terrorists Sympathisers.

Passing blame to the media is the lowest and most evasive tactic used by Muslims nowadays.
Instead of you cautioning and acting against the Indoctrination of young children and promote education, you come online to spew refuse.
Re: You're A Traveller Praying Behind A Imam, Can You Still Shorten Your Solah? by k4kenny(f): 6:15pm On Oct 08, 2021
chigator2:


Here we go again with the Blame game.

I agree I'm Indoctrinated by the Media but we both will agree that these Media didn't Indoctrinate Boko Haram, ISIS, Taliban, Ansaru, Bandits, Al-Qaeda and the rest of your brethren.

Topmost is that, these terrorists were not Indoctrinated by a Pastor, in a Church with a Bible rather they were deceived by an Islamic Cleric, in a Mosque using a Quran.

So who is a slave now ?? The Earlier you guys admit that Islam has a fundamental problem or is actually false, the better for the rest of the world.


These organisations are recent inventions of the enemies of islam, their acts have nothing to do with Islam. They are not our bretheren and they'll all face the wrath of Allah for their evil deeds. No single Imam or known Islamic organisation endorses their attrocities. We're tired of criticising their actions, but you guys are so hell bent on creating a fantasy world of "evil Islamic Jihadists" that you desperately latch on to the false notion that media is feeding you with.

It that's what rocks your boat, enjoy your fantasy.

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Re: You're A Traveller Praying Behind A Imam, Can You Still Shorten Your Solah? by Adek15(m): 6:39pm On Oct 08, 2021
Unlettered:


You either listen with the two ears provided by Allah Azzawajal or you listen with the one mouth he gave you. Dont read to to reply, read to understand before you reply.

What i said was Allah SWT sent down rules to guide the religion of islam and a messenger to show its members how it can be followed. Who said Allah swt and Muh’d SAW asked people to go and become terrorists?! That s awestern mentality and there is no tribe, culture or community that doesnt have bad eggs. But judging a whole religion because of a few bad eggs makes you a dunce. Go and get that knowledge rather than being here just to read and argue.
You must be new to nairaland. The person you're responding isn't seeking for answers. He's just a clown looking for attention. Just ignore

Re: You're A Traveller Praying Behind A Imam, Can You Still Shorten Your Solah? by Unlettered: 7:31pm On Oct 08, 2021
[quote author=Adek15 post=106565407][/quote]

Noted. Thanks
Re: You're A Traveller Praying Behind A Imam, Can You Still Shorten Your Solah? by bashir1451(m): 9:43pm On Oct 08, 2021
AlphaAlex:
Bashir May Allah heal your hate filled terrorist soul too, that’s how you people are you speak softly and peacefully outside but in your hearts you are boiling with Hatred and planning Evil, don’t think you can fool me with your nonsense words of peace . May Allah heal you first before he heals me , Rubbish See how your religious bigots have Crippled and continually cripple our great country you won’t talk about that it’s About healing my heart . Nonsense go and ask Allah to heal buhari and Pantamis hearts first . Nonsense
I wholeheartedly apologise to you for finding my harmless prayer offensive. God knows I harbor no hate for anyone for a fault which isn't his. The problems of this country were caused by Nigerians of every tribe and faith and can only be solved collectively by Nigerians from every tribe and faith. This isn't a political thread however so all I will say is May the Good lord forgive us all.
Re: You're A Traveller Praying Behind A Imam, Can You Still Shorten Your Solah? by Ibkhaleel01: 11:09pm On Oct 08, 2021
Terrence99:


Men are promised 72 virgins, what does the Quran promise women in Al-Jannah?
Allah has promised the men and women of the believers Gardens with rivers flowing under them, remaining in them timelessly, forever, and fine dwellings in the Gardens of Eden. And Allah's good pleasure is even greater. That is the great victory. (Sura 9, 72)

“Here Allah mentions the Hoor Al`Een because in most cases men pursue women and not vice versa. As for women, Allah Almighty may marry them to any of the believers in Paradise, if they did not get married during worldly life, or He may compensate them by making them feel content with their position. It is also said that Allah may grant women some kind of beauty with which they will feel that they are better than the Hoor Al-`Een and that they are their mistress, so they will not love anyone other than their own husbands nor will they feel jealous of the Hoor Al-`Een.” (Source)

The main reason why the Quran and hadith are stressing the fact that men will get virgin girls is because it more appealing to men than promising virgin men to women. Men are more sexually active and therefore are facing a lot of difficulty (especially in the teenage years) to remain chaste. There are a lot of temptations in this world. That is why that Allah keeps promising these virgin girls who are more superior to the women of this world to those that remain patient and steadfast. That way, this motivates the unmarried men to remain chaste and be patient because they know they have something better waiting for them in the next life. Because if they do not get it legally in the next life then they would get it illegally in this life.

These are some verses that show the equality that men and women receive when it comes to attaining the rewards of paradise.



Surah 3:195

So their Lord accepted their prayer: That I will not waste the work of a worker among you, whether male or female...

Surah 4:194

And whoever does good deeds whether male or female and he (or she) is a believer -- these shall enter the garden, and they shall not be dealt with a jot unjustly.

Surah 16:97

Whoever does good whether male or female and he is a believer, We will most certainly make him live a happy life, and We will most certainly give them their reward for the best of what they did

As a matter of fact the paradise according to Islam is more superior than the paradise according to the bible. Because the paradise according to the bible is only a spiritual paradise in contrast to the paradise according to Islam which is both carnal and spiritual. Human beings have both physical and spiritual needs. Therefore, the paradise according to the bible is only 50% complete whilst the paradise according to Islam is 100% complete, therefore making it more superior!!

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Re: You're A Traveller Praying Behind A Imam, Can You Still Shorten Your Solah? by Ibkhaleel01: 11:16pm On Oct 08, 2021
Terrence99:


Men are promised 72 virgins, what does the Quran promise women in Al-Jannah?

More and more we hear of ignorance from Christians like you who criticize Islam for claiming that Paradise will have physical pleasures in it similar to the ones that we have here on earth. Personally, I've heard cheap comments before about the 70 Houris for men in Heaven and how the Prophet, peace be upon him, "promised Hot desert men" sex in Paradise.

Bashing is easy, and believe me, nothing is easier than bashing the gospel of porn bible for claiming that women's vaginas and breasts taste like "wine", and that sisters can look lustfully at their biological brothers and wish to have sex with them in bed. All of the quotes from the gospel of porn are locate at any version of the Pornography in the Bible.

Christians believe that we will be like "spirits" or "Angels" in Heaven without physical bodies. They believe that once a "Christian" dies, then he/she will go and live with GOD Almighty as a spirit in Heaven:

Matthew 22:29-30
29. Jesus replied, "You are in error because you do not know the Scriptures or the power of God.
30. At the resurrection people will neither marry nor be given in marriage; they will be like the angels in heaven.

Obviously this contradicts the very teachings of their very own Bible about Adam and Eve having physical bodies in Heaven and that they had sex (they were a husband and wife).



If we will not marry in Heaven, then why was Eve called a "Wife" in the Genesis verses above?

Wife, marriage, hello??



Again, Jesus in Luke 24:51 was taken up to Heaven in his physical body.

The man-made contradictions and garbage in the Bible are sound and clear!

Now if Eve was not a "wife" to Adam, then how exactly was she supposed to be our "mother"? Was she Adam's girlfriend? Aren't fornication and adultery considered a sin in the Eyes of GOD Almighty? And even if Adam and Eve never had sex, which is a ridiculous theory given the evidence above, the fact that they had physical bodies (Eve was created from Adam's rib) in Heaven soundly refutes the lies that were told in the New Testament about us being only spirits in Heaven!


Again and again, you Christians' man-made and false religion, Christianity, is self-contradicting and self-refuting. You have no solid ground to stand on, and yet, you have the loudest mouths when it comes to attacking Islam on mentioning things that does not exist. Every believer will be a King of his realm in Heaven, and just like kings here on earth have their maids and their wives and their servants for all different purposes, the Kings in Heaven will have much much greater pleasures and services and servants.
Re: You're A Traveller Praying Behind A Imam, Can You Still Shorten Your Solah? by BigDickandPussy: 12:22am On Oct 10, 2021
chigator2:


So do you qualify for Heaven by the number of Hours you pray or by actually being a good person.

As I said, this mentality breeds Hypocrisy.

According to your Explanation, A terrorist can be confident in his atrocity as long as he prays he a stipulated quantity of hours or so.

This is what differentiates True Faith from Earthly Religion

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Re: You're A Traveller Praying Behind A Imam, Can You Still Shorten Your Solah? by Debangis20(m): 11:16am On Feb 24, 2023
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