The desperation from tinubu will sink this country further to a colossal mess

[quote author=Paleone123 post=106702117][/quote]To be honest with ourselves, can you give or mention any vice president that has performed wonderfully well like this Osinbajo?
knowing fully well that he is just the vice president who has limited space to operate .
Osinbajo is the man for the post.

bewla:
Osinbajo and vice okonjo iwela

Are you kidding me, South for both President and VP in Nigeria?

You must be high on kwale weed.
We are yet to escape Buhari inferno and you want us in another hell. May unknown Gunmen visit your ungwan.

BigSarah:
Each time I see or read people postulate osinbanjo I get confused honestly..

If Nigerians truly want osinbanjo, then that means absolutely nothing is wrong with this Buhari and Osinbajo 8 years of mis-rule.

Without supporting Osinbajo
This is not logical or even practical.
The logic of that is that anytime there is a "good" president his deputy should succeed him.
Neither that premise or its corollary which you project are rational conclusions

PeaceJoyLove:

Lol.

A man who failed in everything he laid hands on. He failed woefully as the Gov o Lagos. Was he not the one before Jagaban? Marwa destroyed Lagos ma.dly. Then, he set up Arbarkar Airline with his loots. Where is the airline today? They wanted to make him ambassador to Russia so he could run business with Russians, but people who love Nigeria told the president to move him elsewhere. That was how they sent him to South Aftica. When he was in S.A, what did he do? Nothing. Now, Buhari gave him the top job as Drug Law Emforcement boss. Marwa said Nigeria should not legalised medicinal marijuana. Marwa didnt even know the difference btw the one which cause hallucination and the one used for medicine. Honestly, Marwa is a dullard. He knows nothing. Marwa

This one na indomie generation....
No former governor of Lagos state comes close to Marwa including jakande....

0m0nnakoda:

ALL NIGERIANS ARE PRODUCTS OF THE NIGERIAN SYSTEM not just those in the "Political space"
I do not understand YOUR thought process.
Nigerians who are produced by the system do well in other "systems"
Your reasoning is not very logical
The logical conclusion is we will need to be governed by Non-Nigerians

My conclusion is the future of Nigeria is predictably bad. We will continue going backwards because a bad system cannot produce good as a whole even if it can produce individual good.

The truth about Nigeria is that we have been gradually drifting backwards since the white man left....painful but true. We have not shown oiin 60 years of independence that we are capable of managing our affairs for the good of all. It doesnt matter who becomes president, it doesnt matter how good the person is or what miracle he can perform, nothing good will ultimately come of it because even if he manages progress you can be sure it wont be sustained.

You tell me what have we built in Nigeria that hasnt crumpled within a generation In nigeria?


The reason why Nigerians do well in other systems is because their systems were designed to work, ours was designed to keep the country together at all costs at the expense of progress. Nigeria before 1966 was designed for progress and indeed we made a lot of progress. many of the things we enjoy today are legacies of pre-1966. However post 1966 wasnt designed for progress or to "work"!!

Why do you want an economist (international Civil servant) for the job of President?
Do you understand the job at all?

What of Pat Utomi, Ngozi Iweala,
Let's give the ibos a chance too
Am not into but I believe atleast they have been part of this entity called Nigeria

perambulator:


My conclusion is the future of Nigeria is predictably bad. We will continue going backwards because a bad system cannot produce good as a whole even if it can produce individual good.

The truth about Nigeria is that we have been gradually drifting backwards since the white man left....painful but true. We have not shown oiin 60 years of independence that we are capable of managing our affairs for the good of all. It doesnt matter who becomes president, it doesnt matter how good the person is or what miracle he can perform, nothing good will ultimately come of it because even if he manages progress you can be sure it wont be sustained.

You tell me what have we built in Nigeria that hasnt crumpled within a generation In nigeria?

Whole sale capitalism is Nigeria's bane. It commoditized everything and ruined excellence for excellence sake.

RiceProducers:


Whole sale capitalism is Nigeria's bane. It commoditized everything and ruined excellence for excellence sake.

Our problem is the constitution. The constitution was designed to keep Nigeria one at all costs not to make Nigeria productive. Nigeria will never be productive no matter how good a president we have because it wasnt designed to be good.

stephanie11:
POLITICSNIGERIA.COM



https://politicsnigeria.com/akinwumi-adesina-buba-marwa-osinbajo-fredrick-nwabufos-pick-for-president/

Sensational

Far from reality

perambulator:


FYI: Chapter VI, part 1, section 137 subsection 1a of the Nigerian constitution

"137. (1) A person shall not be qualified for election to the office of President if -

(a) subject to the provisions of section 28 of this Constitution, he has voluntarily acquired the citizenship of a country other than Nigeria or, except in such cases as may be prescribed by the National Assembly, he has made a declaration of allegiance to such other country; "

it is the same for all elective officies even commisioners and ministers

you can thank your Daddy (me) for stopping you making a fool of yourself in future by educating you.

There are courts decisions that are contrary to the position of S.137 of the CFRN.

Gboluga v Akintoye(2019).
Ogbeide v Osula (2004) 12 NWLR (886) 86.*****

Unless there's a "contradicting" decision of the court post 2019, the position of the law is that a citizen with dual citizenship who didn't renounce his foreign citizenship isn't barred from running for an elective position in Nigeria.

perambulator:


My conclusion is the future of Nigeria is predictably bad. We will continue going backwards because a bad system cannot produce good as a whole even if it can produce individual good.

The truth about Nigeria is that we have been gradually drifting backwards since the white man left....painful but true. We have not shown oiin 60 years of independence that we are capable of managing our affairs for the good of all. It doesnt matter who becomes president, it doesnt matter how good the person is or what miracle he can perform, nothing good will ultimately come of it because even if he manages progress you can be sure it wont be sustained.

You tell me what have we built in Nigeria that hasnt crumpled within a generation In nigeria?


The reason why Nigerians do well in other systems is because their systems were designed to work, ours was designed to keep the country together at all costs at the expense of progress. Nigeria post 1966 wasnt designed to "work"!!

Clearly you have plenty of opinions but do no overload me.
You need to study history.
The USA did not exist 500 years ago.
Nigeria has plenty of time and something good will emerge in that space whether it takes 50 years or 500 years it does not have to be Nigeria as we know it today.
You have not demonstrated any insight into the real nature of the problem just very strong personal opinions

GUNITGuy:
What of Pat Utomi, Ngozi Iweala,
Let's give the ibos a chance too
Am not into but I believe atleast they have been part of this entity called Nigeria

Ngozi Iwealla yes but just because she has fought and taken risks for Nigeria before. Pat Utomi maybe.

You see paper credentials are nothing. The guy who ruined Afghanistan had a PhD in how not to ruin a country. He still did the opposite of what he had written award winning academic papers about

stephanie11:
POLITICSNIGERIA.COM



https://politicsnigeria.com/akinwumi-adesina-buba-marwa-osinbajo-fredrick-nwabufos-pick-for-president/

The only strong personality on that list is Buba

Others are not different from GEL accademica presidents...they are very good on paper for analysis purpose

richmond500:
the problem of Nigeria started years ago and not just recently

Is Osibanjo not part of the problem?

SageX1444:
There are courts decisions that are contrary to the position of S.137 of the CFRN.

Gboluga v Akintoye(2019).
Ogbeide v Osula (2004) 12 NWLR (886) 86.*****

Unless there's a "contradicting" decision of the court post 2019, the position of the law is that a citizen with dual citizenship who didn't renounce his foreign citizenship isn't barred from running for an elective position in Nigeria.

This is Nigeria, Our speaker is a dual national by acquisition, anything goes in this country. That said, this is clearly a money induced judgement because the constitution is clear. I will have the read the judgement and the basis but like i said the law is clear!!!!

caracas:

This one na indomie generation....
No former governor of Lagos state comes close to Marwa including jakande....

Are you OK? I am sure you are the indomie generation. Your papa and mama will bow when they meet me. Are you OK at all? Or do you want me to find you and make you repeat what you are posting here? Are you ok? Marwa. Which Marwa? Do you know how the roads in Lagos were destroyed during his time? Dont let me find you, else, your parents will prostrate and kiss my shoe. I promise you.

0m0nnakoda:

Clearly you have plenty of opinions but do no overload me.
You need to study history.
The USA did not exist 500 years ago.
Nigeria has plenty of time and something good will emerge in that space whether it takes 50 years or 500 years it does not have to be Nigeria as we know it today.
You have not demonstrated any insight into the real nature of the problem just very strong personal opinions

next time you see an inteligent post just skip along if it is above your IQ. This is not BBnaija

North already had their turn.

1. Osinbajo
2. Okonjo Iweala
2. Akinwunmi Adesina

Preferably, we need someone with knowledge of Economics from the South - not another borrow-borrow Northerner.

perambulator:


This is Nigeria, Our speaker is a dual national by acquisition, anything goes in this country. That said, this is clearly a money induced judgement because the constitution is clear. I will have the read the judgement and the basis but like i said the law is clear!!!!

Money induced judgement?
I can't say considering the fact that I do not have real or hearsay evidence to back your claims. Again the Constitution is like a wet clay, the court has the duty to mold(interpret) it to be in tune with the reality of things.

BigSarah:
Each time I see or read people postulate osinbanjo I get confused honestly..

If Nigerians truly want osinbanjo, then that means absolutely nothing is wrong with this Buhari and Osinbajo 8 years of mis-rule.

Ur opinion shows hw ignorance u r when it comes to our system of govt

SageX1444:
Money induced judgement?
I can't say considering the fact that I do not have real or hearsay evidence to back your claims. Again the Constitution is like a wet clay, the court has the duty to mold(interpret) it to be in tune with the reality of things.

I said it sounds like...just a personal opinion

SageX1444:
There are courts decisions that are contrary to the position of S.137 of the CFRN.

Gboluga v Akintoye(2019).
Ogbeide v Osula (2004) 12 NWLR (886) 86.*****

Unless there's a "contradicting" decision of the court post 2019, the position of the law is that a citizen with dual citizenship who didn't renounce his foreign citizenship isn't barred from running for an elective position in Nigeria.

You are quoting those decisions out of context
In the Ogbeide case The Appeal Court ruled on an appeal against the Tribunal decision and was not a matter of establishing Jurisprudence.
The Appeal Court's position was that insufficient proof was provided at the Tribunal to back the claim
”…The proof was based on the ipse dixir of the appellant who in fact could not give the source of his information; neither did he give the place and date of issuance of the passport, the nature of the company allegedly formed by the 1st respondent in the USA or the facts of renunciation by 1st respondent of his Nigerian citizenship …

In short the matter was decided ON THE BASIS of evidence or lack of evidence.

It is not in anyway "settled" in the way that you suggest

Dapson73:


Point of correction, Tinubu and Ngozi Okonjo Iweala is from the south and northerners will never negotiate such position for female.

Argument against Ngozi Okonjo Iweala's candidacy isn't even because of her gender. I don't care which gender becomes president.

She's in bed with the very organisations which helped screw the economies of African countries - the IMF and World Bank.

Almost like the U.S. foisting Mohammed Morsi on Egypt in the height of the Arab Spring.

perambulator:


next time you see an inteligent post just skip along if it is above your IQ. This is not BBnaija

This post like its author is nearly intelligent

SageX1444:
Money induced judgement?
I can't say considering the fact that I do not have real or hearsay evidence to back your claims. Again the Constitution is like a wet clay, the court has the duty to mold(interpret) it to be in tune with the reality of things.

https://www./right-dual-citizens-hold-political-offices-nigeria

as I thought: ogbeide for instance was never proven to be a Dual national. the accusation was that he was a dual national because of an erroneous assumption by the that he must be an American citizen to own an American company. the case of dual nationiltty wa hearsay and not proven. Hence the case was dismissed. Not because you can acquire citizenship and contest.

excerpts:

"ontrary to popular perception, the Ogbeide and PDP cases are not conclusive authorities on the issue. The Court of Appeal decisions are limited to the peculiar circumstances considered in the cases. What is clear from a forensic review of the cases is that the primary bases for the decisions were that there was no proof of the allegations of dual citizenship.

In Ogbeide's case for example, one of the grounds of the Appellant’s petition was that the 1st Respondent was not qualified to contest as member of the National Assembly because he holds a dual citizenship. The only evidence of the dual citizenship was that the 1st Respondent incorporated a company in the United States. The 1st Respondent however averred that he has never renounced his Nigerian citizenship by birth and that all a foreign national require in incorporating a company in the United States was permanent residence and not citizenship. The court found that the evidence of dual citizenship was hearsay. At page 116 of the judgment Adeniji JCA alluded to the insufficiency of the evidence adduced to prove dual citizenship as follows:"

Like for Osinbajo, Share for Akinwunmi and quote for Okonjo

Abujason:
North already had their turn.

1. Osinbajo
2. Okonjo Iweala
2. Akinwunmi Adesina

Preferably, we need someone with knowledge of Economics from the South - not another borrow-borrow Northerner.

Definitely not Osinbajo who has never been his own man, and has continuously knowtowed to godfathers (including Tinubu) publicly. He'd be more subservient than Akinwunmi Adeshina is even projected to be.

And Osinbajo, unlike the other two, isn't an economist nor does he have antecedence of leading an economic team or project to success.

His best project as V.P. was successfully sharing 10,000 naira to market women in the lead up to the 2019 elections in specific states which was veiled vote-buying.

Shooyie:


You again? You are filled with illogical hate.

Lol.... Yes me till you decide to reason properly and stopped typing rubbish. FAKE ASS PASTOR CALLED OSINBANJO NAA HIM YOU DEY MARKET... YOU NO SEE REASONABLE PEOPLE?

0m0nnakoda:

You are quoting those decisions out of context
In the Ogbeide case The Appeal Court ruled on an appeal against the Tribunal decision and was not a matter of establishing Jurisprudence.
The Appeal Court's position was that insufficient proof was provided at the Tribunal to back the claim
”…The proof was based on the ipse dixir of the appellant who in fact could not give the source of his information; neither did he give the place and date of issuance of the passport, the nature of the company allegedly formed by the 1st respondent in the USA or the facts of renunciation by 1st respondent of his Nigerian citizenship …

In short the matter was decided ON THE BASIS of evidence or lack of evidence.

It is not in anyway "settled" in the way that you suggest

i couldnt believe it was you that posted this. I obviously mistook you for a typical Nairaland idiot. That you even bother to fact check clearly shows i got you wrong.