Eko Ile:


What heat? Dude is not only not taking back what he wrote, he's telling you point black that you do not know how to read, comprehend and reason.

jerseyboy:

By trying to be slick? Slicky Sam.

emmatok:

My friend go and sit down.

Sam Omatseye has cleared him-self you can continue bang ya keyboard if you like.

Eko Ile:


Sorry, I don't do trolls, run along and look for a willing back and forth partner.

emmatok:

Who care about your trolls.

I wrote once that this woman whom Awo once described as the jewel of inestimable value has lost value to his cause. If he came back to life, he would have committed the extraordinary act of divorce after death.

jerseyboy:


Sam Omatseye

HID is 96 years old.

unclothed Truth: “Awo Stood For People-Oriented Govt., While His Family Aligned With Tyrannical Kleptomaniac Govt Foisted On The South West By Obasanjo”

—Abdrazzaq Durojaiye




According to a respected commentator on Nigeria and international politics, Abdrazzaq Durojaiye, remarked that the write-up by Mr. Omatseye, was truthful, what he called the “absolute truth if you read it with an open mind”.

Read full text commentary by Mr. Durojaiye beneath,

“This write up is the absolute truth if read it with an open mind. Awo’s legacy was rubbished by his family and establishment he left behind. Awo stood for people-oriented govt. while his family aligned with tyrannical kleptomaniac govt foisted on the south west by Obasanjo. Tribune was far away from Awo’s ideology.

Adding, “All those using this article to attack Tinubu are doing so out of envy as Yoruba will say ija ilara ko tan boro. Where were they when they fell for Obasanjo gimmick and lost their relevance. They are embittered with Tinubu’s group ascendance to prominence

“This is time to retrospect, Awo’s family need to align with the people Awo fought for all his life, there is no excuse for them, if they are not ready to align they will further be rubbished. As for those who want to take pound of flesh from Tinubu for sins he imaginarily committed by not been gullible like them, they will succeed only when Tinubu abandon emancipation of the people and functional result-oriented govt., for his people and Nigeria. I am not a fan of Tinubu but he deserves commendation for his political sagacity.

“Tinubu should not be discouraged by the numerous attacks on his person, rather he should make ACN perform, make their govt accountable to the people, and ensure party discipline and unity among all elders and youths of the party irrespective of tribes or religion.

“Most times, truth is always bitter; telling mama Awo the truth won’t diminish her eminence, rather rejecting the truth will do more damages to Awolowo family’s reputations.

Awo’s legacies endure forever.

http://www.republicreport.com/%E2%80%9Cawo-stood-for-people-oriented-govt-while-his-family-aligned-with-tyrannical-kleptomaniac-govt-foisted-on-the-south-west-by-obasanjo%E2%80%9D%E2%80%94abdrazzaq-durojaiye/

ekt_bear:

Of what relevance is whether Awo would be buddy buddy with Tinubu or not today?  Is Awo Jesus Christ?

Do you all worship the man, or something? So there is no one who will ever be effective in Yorubaland now or for the next 1000 years, unless they align exactly with what Awo said or believed in? There is only one way to skin the Nigerian cat, and this is copying Awolowo blindly?  

Are the challenges of the 50s and 60s EXACTLY what we face today?

Who cares whether the Awoists are close to Tinubu or not?

We spend too much time living in the past and engaging in romanticism.

Are Tinubu and the ACN an effective way to achieve certain goals, yes or no? If no, what would you like to replace them with? If you want to destroy a very effective tool that we have, then kindly suggest something better to replace it with.

Otoh, if you like me think that the current tool has value, should be kept and improved rather then discarded, then suggest concrete ways to do this.

Eko Ile:

Obviously, all these silly attacks and spites against Tinubu serves only one purpose which is to take him down and drag us back, I think Yoruba people need to rally around Tinubu and not leave him exposed to outside forces trying to reverse our gains and advancement. We've sacrificed too many Yoruba leaders because of silly and petty rivalries and shortsightedness jealousy. 

It's really disgusting 

Eko Ile:


God Bless you.


Obviously, they think we buried our future and every about us with. I's like we are nothing and we can not achieve any without a dead man.

That name is sounding like a damn monkey on our backs, it has zero relevance beyond history. We are going to have greater leaders and we are going to build on and advance way better than we did under Awo.

You complain when you're losing, you complain when you're winning. Obviously, all these silly attacks and spites against Tinubu serves only one purpose which is to take him down and drag us back, I think Yoruba people need to rally around Tinubu and not leave him exposed to outside forces trying to reverse our gains and advancement. We've sacrificed too many Yoruba leaders because of silly and petty rivalries and shortsightedness jealousy.

It's really disgusting

ekt_bear:

Of what relevance is whether Awo would be buddy buddy with Tinubu or not today? 

Is Awo Jesus Christ?

Do you all worship the man, or something?

So there is no one who will ever be effective in Yorubaland now or for the next 1000 years, unless they align exactly with what Awo said or believed in?

Are the challenges of the 50s and 60s EXACTLY what we face today?

Who cares whether the Awoists are close to Tinubu or not?

We spend too much time living in the past and engaging in romanticism.

Are Tinubu and the ACN an effective way to achieve certain goals, yes or no?

If no, what would you like to replace them with?

If you want to destroy a very effective tool that we have, then kindly suggest something better to replace it with.

Otoh, if you like me think that the current tool has value, should be kept and improved rather then discarded, then suggest concrete ways to do this.

Ystranger:

Your post is full of contradictions. Grave ones.  Well, history repeats itself and if we dont know our history, we are bound to repeat the mistakes of the past. There is a reason Americans reference their founding fathers? They try to live up to the expectations of their founding fathers. Think about it.

No of course, But I think, the right question is: Is Jesus Christ Awo? And if I may add, of what relevance is whether Awo is Jesus or not?

You dont? And you want us to believe you are in-tune with your Yoruba-ness? is this a troll post or what?



Did you mean: "So there is no one who will ever be effective in this world [/b]now or for the next 1000 years, unless they align exactly with what [b]Jesus [/b]said or believed in"




Well, if following Jesus Christ,[b] blindly, is bad, then it would be bad for the Yoruba people to follow Awo, their elected leader and only Asaju of Yorubaland blindly.  "I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father[b] except[/b] through me." You believe that crap and some how you find it absurd that we see Awo in the same light?

If its what you believe, it is fine. But whatever you disagree with is crazy? Is that what is going on here?


Yes. The cat hasnt changed. There are very few FUNDAMENTAL ways to skin the cat. You can compromise on everything else, but you cannot compromise on  basic fundamental principles.

Maybe you should ask Tinubu that. The dressing, the glasses, the ACN logo, the many billboards with Tinubu's image juxtaposed with Awo's and Jawaharlal Nehru, amongst others. Did that remind you of anything? And, BTW, Awolowo admired and met with Jawaharlal Nehru so many times. But never in his lifetime became obsessed with him to the point of erecting billboards in strategic places, in the SW, of his image juxtaposed with Jawaharlal Nehru's.

And, yes, we dont care, and no one cares really. But trust me, TINUBU cares. But you may not know, and I will not take offence with such blatant ignorance. After all, we are all ignorant of one thing or the other.

Living in the past? In what sense? We spend too much time learning about our history? You think learning about our history is TIME NOT WELL SPENT? You do know that every university in your beloved country, USA, has a History department? Are you suggesting that the time spent on reading, researching and analyzing the past could be better spent doing something else? Sarah Palin and Paul Revere hoopla isnt romanticism to you?But we talking about Awolowo is "Living in the past and engaging in romanticism."  You do know that learning by itself, irrespective of discipline, is to some extent "LIVING IN THE PAST."

What goals are we talking about here? This where I think you are confusing things. I am not sure what goals you are referring to here?

Who is talking about replacing Tinubu? I think you have things mixed up.



Why would anyone want to destroy Tinubu? What do you mean by we? Are you a card carrying member of ACN? And why do you think everyone here supports ACN? This has nothing to do with ACN? If Tinubu is an effective leader for ACN, well congrats to him. No one is out to bring him down. As a matter of fact, we wish him luck with his ambitions. And I am sure HID Awolowo, the[b] Yeye Oodua of Yorubaland[/b],and the rest of the Awo family, and real Awoists, want the best for him.

Okay. You are mixing so many things together. I dont know how you manage to bring ACN into all of this? Quite impressive of you though. Tinubu and his lap dog, Omatseye, insulted HID Awolowo, and I think thats what this is all about, No? Is there something else here that I am oblivious to?

Ystranger:

Yes. The cat hasnt changed. There are very few FUNDAMENTAL ways to skin the cat. You can compromise on everything else, but you cannot compromise on  basic fundamental principles.

Maybe you should ask Tinubu that. The dressing, the glasses, the ACN logo, the many billboards with Tinubu's image juxtaposed with Awo's and Jawaharlal Nehru, amongst others. Did that remind you of anything? And, BTW, Awolowo admired and met with Jawaharlal Nehru so many times. But never in his lifetime became obsessed with him to the point of erecting billboards in strategic places, in the SW, of his image juxtaposed with Jawaharlal Nehru's.

And, yes, we dont care, and no one cares really. But trust me, TINUBU cares. But you may not know, and I will not take offence with such blatant ignorance. After all, we are all ignorant of one thing or the other.

Living in the past? In what sense? We spend too much time learning about our history? You think learning about our history is TIME NOT WELL SPENT? You do know that every university in your beloved country, USA, has a History department? Are you suggesting that the time spent on reading, researching and analyzing the past could be better spent doing something else? Sarah Palin and Paul Revere hoopla isnt romanticism to you?But we talking about Awolowo is "Living in the past and engaging in romanticism."  You do know that learning by itself, irrespective of discipline, is to some extent "LIVING IN THE PAST."

What goals are we talking about here? This where I think you are confusing things. I am not sure what goals you are referring to here?

Who is talking about replacing Tinubu? I think you have things mixed up.

Why would anyone want to destroy Tinubu? What do you mean by we? Are you a card carrying member of ACN? And why do you think everyone here supports ACN? This has nothing to do with ACN? If Tinubu is an effective leader for ACN, well congrats to him. No one is out to bring him down. As a matter of fact, we wish him luck with his ambitions. And I am sure HID Awolowo, the[b] Yeye Oodua of Yorubaland[/b],and the rest of the Awo family, and real Awoists, want the best for him.

Okay. You are mixing so many things together. I dont know how you manage to bring ACN into all of this? Quite impressive of you though. Tinubu and his lap dog, Omatseye, insulted HID Awolowo, and I think thats what this is all about, No? Is there something else here that I am oblivious to?

ekt_bear:

Ystranger, I'm starting to think that I am misunderstanding your analogy. Surely you cannot[b] mean "worship" in anything close to a religious sense[/b].

Alright, Tinubu might care, but I don't.

Right. But at some point it becomes a disease, when one expects that the solutions for the next problem will come from the past.

History is a nice thing to learn, but to use it as the[b] rubric t[/b]o judge decisions by subsequent leaders doesn't necessarily make sense.

Which to me seems to be what we are doing.

Or what is the point of judging politician X on whether he is an "Awoist" or not?

I've never even been a fan of such blanket terminology. . . of what use is "Awoist" or not if we have to analyze policy decision Y?

I think building a strong national party that leaves us less susceptible to power plays made by other groups is a good short-term (and long-term) political objective. I view it as a political goal to make strong alliances in other parts of the country with those we can work with. Especially in places like the MB and SS. I think it a worthy goal to greatly weaken the PDP. These to me seem to be very worthy tasks.

Awo, of course, wanted Yorubaland to be strong and prosperous, but not for any selfish end. The prosperity and well-being of the Yoruba nation was to be a benchmark for the Federal Republic of Nigeria. As Awo used to say, he could not be a good Nigerian, if he was not a good Yorubaman! One can recall Awo's rebuke of my friend, brother and colleague, Chief Bisi Onabanjo, when in 1983, following the NPN rigging of elections, he called for a confederation. He gave him political spanking and that publicity . I am aware of course, that not only has Awo been vilified by Zik and other unitarists as a tribalist and apostle of balkanisation of Nigeria, quite a few Yoruba concerned nationalists have also queried why Awo did not lead Yorubaland out of Nigeria during the Civil War. Chief Emeka Ojukwu's grouse, and that of some of his misguided cronies, was that they were encouraged in their secessionist bid by the motion which was passed by Yoruba leaders in the Western Hall, Ibadan, about April 1967.

http://www.nigerdeltacongress.com/oarticles/obafemi_awolowo.htm

I view it as very important to grow the economy of the SW and increase the fraction of money generated through IGR in each of the states. I'm tired of being dependent on oil money from the SS. This seems to be a goal that the ACN shares, to some extent.

I'm not an ACN member,[b] I just think that their interests and that of the SW largely overlap [/b]at this point in time.

LadyT:

Baba@ aribisala!

People talking about tinubu like he's some saint. Oba area boys

Tinubu’s trial: Tribunal members nominated •To be inaugurated next week
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Written by Lanre Adewole Thursday, 16 June 2011

AT last, the two members needed for the Code of Conduct Tribunal to begin trial of cases sent to it by the Code of Conduct Bureau (CCB) have been reportedly nominated, awaiting the approval of President Goodluck Jonathan.

A plethora of high-profile cases had been reportedly sent to the tribunal by the bureau, with the money-laundering and illegal operation of foreign accounts cases of former Lagos State governor, Senator Bola Tinubu, topping the list.

The chairman of the bureau, Sam Saba, had confirmed to the Nigerian Tribune that lack of quorum at the tribunal was responsible for the delay in arraigning Tinubu.

A former member, upgraded as acting chairman, Danladi Umar Yakubu, had solely been holding forte at the tribunal since the death of the former chairman, Adebayo Muritala Sanni, with the system completely inactive due to lack of quorum.

On the president’s table awaiting his approval were said to be two nominees from Benue and Cross River states, while Yakubu; the acting chairman was also said to have been granted full powers in another upward swing.

With his reported ele-vation as substantive chairman and two mem-bers already on the card, the tribunal, according to the Nigerian Tribune source, would be fully active next week.

The inauguration of the tribunal, according to a credible source, had also been tentatively fixed for next week.

There had been specu-lations that certain political understanding had stalled the appointment of the members by President Jonathan.

Nigerian Tribune can also reveal that commissioners of the Code of Conduct Bureau who had been on the field collating evidence on the level of compliance on asset declaration by the immediate past public office holders and the newly-elected, would be meeting with Saba either today or tomorrow, to brief him on their findings.

The commissioners were said to have been converging on Abuja since last week, with the last batch reportedly in, on Tuesday and the meeting to discuss their findings reportedly scheduled to start today.

Saba, during a chat with the Nigerian Tribune, had disclosed that some immediate past commi-ssioners in Nasarawa State had been found making untrue entries in their asset declaration form, with some said to be declaring N1,000 as account balance, even when it was discovered that they were lodging N1 million every month into the same bank account.

He lamented situations in recent past, when names of high-ranking public officials charged by the bureau, disappeared from the prosecution list at the tribunal, promising to plug all the holes as the bureau braced for the next round of prosecution of defaulting public officials.

informed:

I'm baffled by the type of tirades I often see on Nairaland. So many people just love to hate n be economical with truth , blind followers.

For several years, TINUBU has been depending on the legacies of AWo to play his politics. This all goes back to the AD days but TINUBU is no AWO. Their brand of politics is very different. While AWO was more interested in building lasting legacies and honest politics, TINUBU is more intrested in hiding under the camouflage of the opposition and looting the state.

That very thing Bola Ahmed TINUBU criticizes the PDP for, he's 100% guilty too. Tinubu is as corrupt as they come, he cant tell us he has not lined his pocket with the spoils of the state and come claiming Awo. Who is the head of the touts in Lagos? Who owns Oriential Hotels and at what point was it developed? What were the legacies TINUBU's eight year administration in Lagos had to show?

Why did Lagosians suddenly regard Fashola as a messih? Who owns OANDO? Who owns hypertek engr? So many,

It's an Abomination to equate Bola Ahmed TINUBU to an AWo. They are not the same and please Tinubu should create his own brand and stop trying to ursurp the memories of a goodman or insult his family. His three family - wife, daughter n son in law have been entrenched in the Senate, Federal House and Lagos House of Assemblies respectively, Were all this by merit?

TIME WILL TELL.