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The North Initially Owned Abuja, But Most Properties In Abuja Now Belong To Sout by luizpippo(m): 4:50pm On Dec 30, 2021
Hakeem Baba-Ahmed, a chieftain of the Northern Elders Forum (NEF), has addressed the ongoing exchange between Ex-President Olusegun Obasanjo and Chief Edwin Clark. Hakeem spoke concerning the topic of resource control and ownership during his recent interview with Arise News.

You may have heard about the ongoing exchange between Olusegun Obasanjo and Clark regarding the ownership of natural resources in the Niger Delta area. The issue has since been a topic of discussion across the country.

Addressing the development, Hakeem Baba-Ahmed said, "If you push this argument too far, Northerners could remind the rest of the country that Abuja originally belonged to the North. Every inch of it used to be Northern territory. The military government took it away and turned it into a federal asset. However, most of the properties in Abuja now belong to Nigerians from the South. What if the aboriginals in Abuja rise to demand special compensation and treatment for the land? The North produces most of the food consumed across the country."

Speaking further, Hakeem added, "The issue is misplaced and antiquated. The context is entirely wrong, and this is the kind of discussion we have had over the last 50 years. We have no business arguing over the ownership of resources."

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Re: The North Initially Owned Abuja, But Most Properties In Abuja Now Belong To Sout by luizpippo(m): 4:50pm On Dec 30, 2021
Just look at the silly comparison.

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Re: The North Initially Owned Abuja, But Most Properties In Abuja Now Belong To Sout by SadiqBabaSani: 5:00pm On Dec 30, 2021
North alws coming up with very weak arguments

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Re: The North Initially Owned Abuja, But Most Properties In Abuja Now Belong To Sout by SadiqBabaSani: 5:01pm On Dec 30, 2021
Even the most intellectual of them in the north cannot come up with any justification fr the cheating that is the NNPC and oda Oil corporations dominated by the non ownsers of the resources

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Re: The North Initially Owned Abuja, But Most Properties In Abuja Now Belong To Sout by Nobody: 5:03pm On Dec 30, 2021
He also made reference to north producing most of the foods consumed in the country, as If the Southerners get it for free . .

Such an empty reasoning

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Re: The North Initially Owned Abuja, But Most Properties In Abuja Now Belong To Sout by Nobody: 5:04pm On Dec 30, 2021
luizpippo:
The North produces most of the food consumed across the country."


The rest of the useless talk no concern me but this, Northerners do not feed us on the South West for free

In fact, we are over paying for the food from the North sef, buying from other West Africa countries is more cheaper than buying from the North

One of the thing a Southern president must do is opening the boarder, there should be free movement of food crops into Nigeria abeg

Nigeria is not yet capable to feed herself.

Government can keep on supporting our local farmers in every way they can... It will help to drive down the cost of food crops.

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Re: The North Initially Owned Abuja, But Most Properties In Abuja Now Belong To Sout by ivolt: 5:05pm On Dec 30, 2021
Gbagyi people are the original indigenes of Abuja, not Northerners.
The properties in private hands weren't given out for free. They were purchased.

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Re: The North Initially Owned Abuja, But Most Properties In Abuja Now Belong To Sout by Nobody: 5:07pm On Dec 30, 2021
SadiqBabaSani:
Even the most intellectual of them in the north cannot come up with any justification fr the cheating that is the NNPC and oda Oil corporations dominated by the non ownsers of the resources
GEJ should have done something about it, ordinary clean up, he didn't clean up any oil polluted community in the Niger Delta

He was busy looting

What an Ijaw man didn't do, you now expect a fulani man to do

Most people from the South South like Edwin Clerk are jokers.

When their son was there, he didn't remember about resource control, his mouth was so filled up with yam he couldn't not say anything, he was more busy eating the yam

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Re: The North Initially Owned Abuja, But Most Properties In Abuja Now Belong To Sout by Nobody: 5:08pm On Dec 30, 2021
This northern people bragging about food as if we dont av land here to start mega farming.

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Re: The North Initially Owned Abuja, But Most Properties In Abuja Now Belong To Sout by Abfinest007(m): 5:12pm On Dec 30, 2021
Nonsense talk
Re: The North Initially Owned Abuja, But Most Properties In Abuja Now Belong To Sout by Nobody: 5:15pm On Dec 30, 2021
DubaiLandLord:
GEJ should have done something about it, ordinary clean up, he didn't clean up any oil polluted community in the Niger Delta

He was busy looting

What an Ijaw man didn't do, you now expect a fulani man to do

Most people from the South South like Edwin Clerk are jokers.

When their son was there, he didn't remember about resource control, his mouth was so filled up with yam he couldn't not say anything, he was more busy eating the yam

GEJ was very useless. They used all our money to buy expensive bras.

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Re: The North Initially Owned Abuja, But Most Properties In Abuja Now Belong To Sout by johnmartus(m): 5:20pm On Dec 30, 2021
grin
Re: The North Initially Owned Abuja, But Most Properties In Abuja Now Belong To Sout by itsme01: 5:27pm On Dec 30, 2021
cool



Southerners don't own Abuja, indegenes and Government does.

Go and carefully read your Certificate of Occupancy, you don't own the land but on mere long term multiple decade lease

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Re: The North Initially Owned Abuja, But Most Properties In Abuja Now Belong To Sout by IGBOSON1: 5:37pm On Dec 30, 2021
Nobody held a gun to Murtala Muhammeds’ head and forced him, and the northern hegemony he was representing, to choose Abuja as the new FCT, so why complain now!? Besides, i’m assuming the owners of properties in Abuja paid for them and weren’t handed them for free! Which is more than can be said for the oyel and gas from the south that northerners get for free!

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Re: The North Initially Owned Abuja, But Most Properties In Abuja Now Belong To Sout by NaijirianKing: 5:41pm On Dec 30, 2021
For too long
Re: The North Initially Owned Abuja, But Most Properties In Abuja Now Belong To Sout by NaijirianKing: 5:48pm On Dec 30, 2021
The oil
Re: The North Initially Owned Abuja, But Most Properties In Abuja Now Belong To Sout by babasolution: 6:03pm On Dec 30, 2021
NaijirianKing:
The oil in the Niger Delta did not start there but settled there. If you understand geology, you will know that oil starts out in one place and moves to another place where it is typically extracted. The oil that is currently in the Niger Delta started out in the Middle Belt and over time flowed down south.

Therefore, we cannot truly say any one person or people own oil, it is similar to air, or sea, it is something that simply cannot be attributed to just one area.

It is due to ignorance that those who live on the soil where it is extracted will be claiming ownership, we have seriously flawed thinking in this country.


Bullshit geology,this process you are explaining if indeed true,happened millions of years ago,before any human was on earth,you can deceive anyone with crap geology

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Re: The North Initially Owned Abuja, But Most Properties In Abuja Now Belong To Sout by BanevsJoker(m): 6:26pm On Dec 30, 2021
This Hakeem is a lunatic. Were the properties in question not bought and paid for?

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Re: The North Initially Owned Abuja, But Most Properties In Abuja Now Belong To Sout by mp3ree: 7:36pm On Dec 30, 2021
Grgton:
He also made reference to north producing most of the things consumed in the country, as If the Southerners get it for free . .

Such an empty reasoning
This hakeem baba is always shooting from the wrong end of the barrel
Re: The North Initially Owned Abuja, But Most Properties In Abuja Now Belong To Sout by Depressed101: 7:54pm On Dec 30, 2021
NaijirianKing:
[s]The oil in the Niger Delta did not start there but settled there. If you understand geology, you will know that oil starts out in one place and moves to another place where it is typically extracted. The oil that is currently in the Niger Delta started out in the Middle Belt and over time flowed down south.

Therefore, we cannot truly say any one person or people own oil, it is similar to air, or sea, it is something that simply cannot be attributed to just one area.

It is due to ignorance that those who live on the soil where it is extracted will be claiming ownership, we have seriously flawed thinking in this country. [/s]


So by your analogy, northerners own the land oil is found in the south eh

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Re: The North Initially Owned Abuja, But Most Properties In Abuja Now Belong To Sout by Depressed101: 7:56pm On Dec 30, 2021
Mumu argument, so those lands in Abuja were given free to those who own it?

And who says Abuja belongs to northerners, who are northerners self, Gbagyi? How is Abuja north Even Kaduna is not fully north, which kind stupid argument be this
Re: The North Initially Owned Abuja, But Most Properties In Abuja Now Belong To Sout by hedonido: 9:02pm On Dec 30, 2021
One can't have a reasonable discussion or logical argument with these abokki animals. It's impossible because they're so full of shit.
Re: The North Initially Owned Abuja, But Most Properties In Abuja Now Belong To Sout by IGBOSON1: 9:51pm On Dec 30, 2021
babasolution:


Bullshit geology,this process you are explaining if indeed true,happened millions of years ago,before any human was on earth,you can deceive anyone with crap geology

Hehehehehe grin grin grin

All continents of today were once joined together as one massive singular continent...that was before the tectonic plates moved and split the single massive continent into the many we see today! He probably thinks as the dinosaurs roamed the earth about 300 million years ago, that there was a spot in the then initial singular continent with a Arewa flag firmly planted into the ground and flapping in the wind! wink
Re: The North Initially Owned Abuja, But Most Properties In Abuja Now Belong To Sout by Rexwalters1: 10:19pm On Dec 30, 2021
SadiqBabaSani:
Even the most intellectual of them in the north cannot come up with any justification fr the cheating that is the NNPC and oda Oil corporations dominated by the non ownsers of the resources
What makes it your own, was it your ancestors that placed the hydrocarbon in the soil?

So it is your own by the virtue that your parents were born there or what, or they moved to that area 100 years ago?

What of the Boy whose father is from Kano State that was born in that region also & you that was born in Ibadan, is he not more entitled to be called more of an indigene than you?
Re: The North Initially Owned Abuja, But Most Properties In Abuja Now Belong To Sout by Putindbutt: 10:30pm On Dec 30, 2021
NaijirianKing:
For too long Nigerians have taken the North for granted. This is just one example, but not the only example.

It seems that only the North belongs to Nigeria, but everywhere else in Nigeria belongs to the "indigenes." People even have the nerve to call the North parasites on social media platforms and even "unity beggars."

This is a false perception held by most southerners. It is actually the North that is holding this nation together, if the south was left to its own devices it would be a war zone and fighting over resources.

In the SW during the time of "Operation Wet ẹ" (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Wetie) southern politicians were literally lighting themselves on fire because of political office...

In the SE, after the war, Igbos in Port Harcourt stole the properties of their brothers who fled their homes (https://www.thenigerianvoice.com/news/76946/obasanjogowon-on-ojukwu-a-reminder-of-abandoned-property.html). Imagine...

Without the North to be a guiding light for this nation, there would be constant war either politically motivated or a scramble for resources. The oil that the south claims today was explored with profits made from ground nut, that came from the North. Moreover, if you understand how oil moves, it flows from North to south and settles in one place, but it didn't start in the place where it is found. The oil in the ND started off in the Middle Belt and flowed down to the delta, but Nigerians are not ready for this conversation, so I'll stop here.

Please be thoughtful in your words when speaking on the North, the North is the only reason this nation is still standing.



This one is talking like a fool. Operation wetie was in 1962, it was as a result of the coalition of Balewa/Azikiwe trying to use federal might to destabilize AG's control of the western region but long before then, abokis in the north were killing ibos as far as 1945. What would you say about that, slowpoke?
Re: The North Initially Owned Abuja, But Most Properties In Abuja Now Belong To Sout by Nobody: 10:38pm On Dec 30, 2021
ivolt:
Gbagyi people are the original indigenes of Abuja, not Northerners.
The properties in private hands weren't given out for free. They were purchased.

Are gbagyi people southerners? They are part of the northern tribes of Nigeria, you see them abuja and also in niger state

When you southerners see gbagyi people in the south wont you call them aboki.
Re: The North Initially Owned Abuja, But Most Properties In Abuja Now Belong To Sout by duro4chang(m): 10:42pm On Dec 30, 2021
Grgton:
He also made reference to north producing most of the things consumed in the country, as If the Southerners get it for free . .

Such an empty reasoning
Yet they are the beggars. Begging from the north to the south.

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Re: The North Initially Owned Abuja, But Most Properties In Abuja Now Belong To Sout by joinnow: 10:53pm On Dec 30, 2021
luizpippo:

Hakeem Baba-Ahmed, a chieftain of the Northern Elders Forum (NEF), has addressed the ongoing exchange between Ex-President Olusegun Obasanjo and Chief Edwin Clark. Hakeem spoke concerning the topic of resource control and ownership during his recent interview with Arise News.

You may have heard about the ongoing exchange between Olusegun Obasanjo and Clark regarding the ownership of natural resources in the Niger Delta area. The issue has since been a topic of discussion across the country.

Addressing the development, Hakeem Baba-Ahmed said, "If you push this argument too far, Northerners could remind the rest of the country that Abuja originally belonged to the North. Every inch of it used to be Northern territory. The military government took it away and turned it into a federal asset. However, most of the properties in Abuja now belong to Nigerians from the South. What if the aboriginals in Abuja rise to demand special compensation and treatment for the land? The North produces most of the food consumed across the country."

Speaking further, Hakeem added, "The issue is misplaced and antiquated. The context is entirely wrong, and this is the kind of discussion we have had over the last 50 years. We have no business arguing over the ownership of resources."

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North produces most of the food consumed across the country."
My question is .........
is the food free or we use our hard earn money to buy it.
Do North produce food and take it to Abuja for Federal Govt to share to various state?
If not this man should
Shove his opinion into his ***hole

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Re: The North Initially Owned Abuja, But Most Properties In Abuja Now Belong To Sout by Rexwalters1: 11:13pm On Dec 30, 2021
joinnow:


Every time

North produces most of the food consumed across the country."
My question is .........
is the food free or we use our hard earn money to buy it.
Do North produce food and take it to Abuja for Federal Govt to share to various state?
If not this man should
Shove his opinion into his ***hole
People that can’t pay state workers salary with all the free money from FAAC?, if they like give them 110% they will not be any better.

Ordinary petrol chemical refinery severely or jointly the so called South South States from Ondo to Bayelsa can’t build to add value.

Anything with effort they have no business with, it is the natural resources deposited by nature free that belongs to them, isn’t this the highest level of economical minded laziness?
Re: The North Initially Owned Abuja, But Most Properties In Abuja Now Belong To Sout by Rexwalters1: 11:19pm On Dec 30, 2021
Putindbutt:

This one is talking like a fool. Operation wetie was in 1962, it was as a result of the coalition of Balewa/Azikiwe trying to use federal might to destabilize AG's control of the western region but long before then, abokis in the north were killing ibos as far as 1945. What would you say about that, slowpoke?
Keep quiet Big Liar, the problem in the Western Region was between Premier Akintola fighting a selfish Obafemi Awolowo.

What concerned Azikiwe & Tafa Balewa were they members of Action Group? Why did you not mention Remi Fani Kayode?

Awolowo wanted to be in Lagos struggling to become Prime Minister but still wanted to be controlling the affairs in Ibadan.
Re: The North Initially Owned Abuja, But Most Properties In Abuja Now Belong To Sout by yyba: 11:32pm On Dec 30, 2021
ivolt:
Gbagyi people are the original indigenes of Abuja, not Northerners.
The properties in private hands weren't given out for free. They were purchased.
shey gbagyi people are south south, south east or south west ?

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