MyphoneandI:


I’ve followed this thread and I’ve noticed your folly. There you go.

Oh dear. Did u actually read what u posted? Quite unfortunate. In your wisdom, pls tell me the meaning of the 3 offences which were mentioned in the screenshot u posted: misdemeanor, felony and breach of peace and explain how they are applicable in this situation with d CP and the people he arrested?

GerogeI:


Another educated illiterate.
Oh, I remember, they only recently introduced civics education to Nigerian schools.
In this weird mind, public resources are used to build private spaces by government. And Any street near his house belongs to him and his friends.

See the kind of people we share country with.

Ignorant fellow.

He doesn't know the difference between a publicly owned property and a privately owned public space.

Can you see how a so called educated man reasons?

✓ My street is a public owned space because anyone goes in and comes out.

✓ My street is a publicly owned space because government erected the streets lights and made drainages.

Chai!!!

Spits!!

festacman:


Magodo Brooks Estate or whatever it is called is not a State within a State. It is no Vatican. Nigerian Police has absolute constitutional jurisdiction over it.

With court search warrant, Mr man

JohnBullMySon:
It is not a crime to prevent an officer without a warrant from entering a privately owned property when not in any official assignment or responding to crime. Know your rights.

Warrant to do what?
Smh

ashjay001:

Discernment. You and doubleoh7 should realise the estate didn't deny the 30mins delay allegations! Why should the CP give details of where he was going to pple he protects?

Yeah I get it. And on his way out of the estate he was delayed for another 1hour because the estate Security wanted to know why he was leaving so early and I guess that was why he came down and ordered the arrest of the replacement units of the Security guards which was what lead to the complete blockade of the estate as there were no Security personnel with access cards to open the gate for passers-by. Discernment

lexy2014:


Why can't he be prevented from entering?

That is a CP. A governor can not even control him. I hope u know that? At least you have seen what can happen if you dare to prevent him. He will wield his enormous power on you. Sometimes some people don't know when they are crossing boundary.

WillyDave:


That is a CP. A governor can not even control him. I hope u know that? At least you have seen what can happen if you dare to prevent him. He will wield his enormous power on you. Sometimes some people don't know when they are crossing boundary.

U didn't answer the question:

Why can't he be prevented from entering?

See, you don't blame the guards or condemn the police also, but to me what the guard did was commendable for them to stop and querry him you know why? Simply because we have witness many scenario in this country where terrorists will disquised as service chiefs to penetrate their target, those guy need to be encouraged.
On the part of the security guard also respect begat respect, once they have identified cP they ought to have done the needful and give him his compliment appropriately.

adioolayi:
Who do we believe sef

..but then, what level of provocation can warrant a whole Commissioner of Police with his security operatives and orderly, to arrest entire security guards of an Estate

I cannot really phantom the audacity of those security guards to delay a Commissioner of Police, with all his security details at the gate for over 30mins as claimed by the police press release... it's really sounding somehow.

zikter:
Please can you define the private you imply here? Who owns that estate? I don't understand. If the CP was forcing his way to someone's house who did not invite him, I will understand the private you are talking about

If he was invited, he shouldn’t have a problem to call the host for verification…. Y’all act slow in this country that why the government take u for granted… For Yankee if police no get warrant even if na the IG of police u can’t go to peoples property but for here ordinary sergeant dey harass and arrest una for inside una bedroom self without warrant… Bruh rest abeg

Doubleoh7:

Yeah I get it. And on his way out of the estate he was delayed for another 1hour because the estate Security wanted to know why he was leaving so early and I guess that was why he came down and ordered the arrest of the replacement units of the Security guards which was what lead to the complete blockade of the estate as there were no Security personnel with access cards to open the gate for passers-by. Discernment

Lol
Do you know why El Zaky was arrested and his followers massacred?

On one hand, you guys are pissed we're in a 3rd world country but always hold the standards at 1st world civilization

In a 3rd world country, it is very wrong for mere security men/protesters to delay the head of a law enforcement agency for whatever reasons.

As much as it is unpalatable, I believe the CP was within his rights, to refuse to state where he's going within the estate. The worst was, they could discretely have sent someone to tail him not hold him to ransome

GrandMasters:
so that you can go there with your boys and rob them freely abi

Who released you from your cage abi you follow endsars protesters escape? Olodo.

ebuka440:
That man doesn't know how tomorrow will treat him

He should better go ask other retired and disgraced police cum armed robbers!!

ashjay001:



Lol
Do you know why El Zaky was arrested and his followers massacred?

On one hand, you guys are pissed we're in a 3rd world country but always hold the standards at 1st world civilization

In a 3rd world country, it is very wrong for mere security men/protesters to delay the head of a law enforcement agency for whatever reasons.

As much as it is unpalatable, I believe the CP was within his rights, to refuse to state where he's going within the estate. The worst was, they could discretely have sent someone to tail him not hold him to ransome

My point is, if we are arguing rights for the CP was the reason why he arrested the guards on his way in. What then was his reason to arrest the replacement guards on his way out if not that excess display of power and propensity to annihilate a perceived "insolent " person that persons in power display in this country. Just like the el zakzaky you referenced, was it really necessary to go to his place of worship and kill everything that moves and level the place, after dealing with his followers on the road, all because a general's convoy was blocked. Using a sledge hammer to kill a mosquito is not a demonstration of strength in my opinion

DelTel:


Mr Human Rights, you have changed from estate to private homes. Did the CP enter a private home?

Half-education is worse than no education at all truly

You are digressing ,argue with civility and don't resort to insult.

festacman:


Mr. Democrat, you wrote trash. Thank you for understanding.

The guy made a good point,police are civil servant and are paid with taxpayer's money,but in Nigeria everything's goes...

DelTel:

Ignorance is bliss
Odumosu is retired (yesterday)

Just he just did his final grade gra..

BabaO2:
estate executives can't lie, if they are wrong they will surely own up and apologize.

bravo!!! These executives are not from Nigeria I guess.

Letter of Apology below for all your attention

It is glaring so many people are ignorant of what it entails to live peacefully in a sane society

I sincerely wish the LASG will do the needful to curb the excesses of mounting gates and claiming a State within a State to the detriment of others

WillyDave:


That is a CP. A governor can not even control him. I hope u know that? At least you have seen what can happen if you dare to prevent him. He will wield his enormous power on you. Sometimes some people don't know when they are crossing boundary.

And you like that ..thanks to the fake military Constitution!!

lexy2014:


U haven't answered my questions:

Based on section 41 of the constitution so quoted, are u saying that any Nigerian walk into aso rock or the police headquarters in abuja quoting that law?

In Section 4(g), was the street in question open to the public? Also take note of the word "facilitate". Was the CP facilitating or carrying out this function as at the time he visited the estate?

When u say that by reason of "sections 18 1(b) and (C) of the Administration of Criminal Justice Law of Lagos, 2015 (as amended in 2021) a police officer is mandated to arrest a suspect who commits an offence in the officer's presence or [b] a person who obstructs the police officer why executing his duty without an arrest warrant, can u pls tell me the arrest the CP was effecting and the offence that was committed?

Oga Questioner
Aso rock and Police headquarters are not publicly open spaces, they are the designated seats of various government functions which you either have to be elected by the people or appointed by an elected offical to control.

Every residential street is open to the public except it has been designated a private space by both Town planning and the state governor.

Once two seperate people live in an area, their common access roads is a public space under consideration of traditional rights of occupancy. So to designate an access road as private, you need the abnormal, a certificate of occupancy from the state government covering the road in question. Does magodo Brooks estate have a CofO covering the access roads or are individuals holding different occupancy certificates. We all know the later is the case.

On what ground were security gate men arrested.
1. Illegal obstruction of public road.
2. Obstruction of Police activity
3. Impediment of Designated and police escorted convoy
4. Disturbance of public peace by leaving illegal estate gates locked.

Am sure there are several other charges that can follow.

Henrhyme4u:
See, you don't blame the guards or condemn the police also, but to me what the guard did was commendable for them to stop and querry him you know why? Simply because we have witness many scenario in this country where terrorists will disquised as service chiefs to penetrate their target, those guy need to be encouraged.
On the part of the security guard also respect begat respect, once they have identified cP they ought to have done the needful and give him his compliment appropriately.

Terrorist disguising as Service Chief? Where e happen? Have u seen a service Chief entourage before? Even a CP's entourage is huge. Those security guards needed to be taught harsh lessons.

GerogeI:


Oga Questioner
Aso rock and Police headquarters are not publicly open spaces, dey are the designated seats of various government functions which you either have to be elected by the people or appointed by and elected offical to control.

Every residential street is open to the public except it has been designated a private space by both Town planning and the state governor.

Once two seperate people live in and area, their common access roads is a public space under consideration of traditional rights of occupancy. So to design an access road as private, you need the abnormal, a certificate of occupancy from the state government covering the road in question. Does magodo Brooks estate have a CofO covering the access roads or are individuals holding different occupancy certificates. We all know the later id the case.

On what ground were security gate men arrested.
1. Illegal obstruction of public road.
2. Obstruction of Police activity
3. Impediment of Designated and police escorted convoy
4. Disturbance of public peace by leaving illegal estate gates locked.

Am sure there are several other charges that can follow.

U still haven't answered my questions:

Based on section 41 of the constitution so quoted, are u saying that any Nigerian walk into aso rock or the police headquarters in abuja quoting that law?

In Section 4(g), was the street in question open to the public? Also take note of the word "facilitate". Was the CP facilitating or carrying out this function as at the time he visited the estate?

When u say that by reason of "sections 18 1(b) and (C) of the Administration of Criminal Justice Law of Lagos, 2015 (as amended in 2021) a police officer is mandated to arrest a suspect who commits an offence in the officer's presence or [b] a person who obstructs the police officer why executing his duty without an arrest warrant, can u pls tell me the arrest the CP was effecting and the offence that was committed?

You are ignorant of the system to uphold 8 to 4pm policy. Police has no working hour in Nigeria and by virtue of the law. Police power is original and its root is generated from the constitution. Police Has an onerous duty to protect lives and properties of citizens twenty hours per day and every single day. So, police can do his job at any time. The 4 to 4 or 6pm policy is just for administrative convenience especially for exchange of correspondence. Even a court order could be served at the police at any time of the day not minding the court rules that hours of service is between 6am to 6pm.

Police is always on duty and can arrest at any time of the day even in the mid night. No law restricts police arrest to any time. There power to arrest is beyond space and time.

Meanwhile, police officers are always on duty as any where they are found, they are duty bound to protect lives, Properties and Orders.

It is absolutely wrong to prevent a Commissioner of Police or even citizens from accessing the said Estate as such estate is a public place. Yes, someone bought the land, built the estate and sold the house to new owners. The only private property in the estate is the individual buildings there. The road and the open space in the Estate are public property. COP is on duty with those paraphernalia with him, stopping him is an obstruction of duty and requires not just arrest but prosecution.

Security even in the estate is the duty of the police and those private security cant function without a license from the police. He who gives you license can't be stopped as he is the chief security himself especially on proper identification. The COP can only be stopped if he dares to enter any private building or duplex then the occupants of the house can question him or deny him entrance unless he Has a court warrant. Any other law you wish to hear, is either you pay for such legal services or you go and research on hour own.

lexy2014:


If working time is 8am to 4pm, kindly answer the follow up question in question 4 below. Meanwhile, u are yet to answer questions 1, 2, 3 and 5:

1. Why was it wrong to have prevented the CP from entering the estate?

2. What law justifies the actions of the CP?

3. How does the secrecy of the DSS exempt it from the rights of the police?
What are those rights?

4. When is "working hours" for the police? At what time did the CP attempt to enter the estate?

5. Can u quote verbatim the law that says that "the CP is empowered by law to enter that estate at working hours"?

chukwukadibia20:
You are ignorant of the system to uphold 8 to 4pm policy. Police has no working hour in Nigeria and by virtue of the law. Police power is original and its root is generated from the constitution. Police Has an onerous duty to protect lives and properties of citizens twenty hours per day and every single day. So, police can do his job at any time. The 4 to 4 or 6pm policy is just for administrative convenience especially for exchange of correspondence. Even a court order could be served at the police at any time of the day not minding the court rules that hours of service is between 6am to 6pm.

Police is always on duty and can arrest at any time of the day even in the mid night. No law restricts police arrest to any time. There power to arrest is beyond space and time.

Meanwhile, police officers are always on duty as any where they are found, they are duty bound to protect lives, Properties and Orders.

It is absolutely wrong to prevent a Commissioner of Police or even citizens from accessing the said Estate as such estate is a public place. Yes, someone bought the land, built the estate and sold the house to new owners. The only private property in the estate is the individual buildings there. The road and the open space in the Estate are public property. COP is on duty with those paraphernalia with him, stopping him is an obstruction of duty and requires not just arrest but prosecution.

Security even in the estate is the duty of the police and those private security cant function without a license from the police. He who gives you license can't be stopped as he is the chief security himself especially on proper identification. The COP can only be stopped if he dares to enter any private building or duplex then the occupants of the house can question him or deny him entrance unless he Has a court warrant. Any other law you wish to hear, is either you pay for such legal services or you go and research on hour own.

Off point. U haven't answered my questions:


If working time is 8am to 4pm, kindly answer the follow up question in question 4 below. Meanwhile, u are yet to answer questions 1, 2, 3 and 5:

1. Why was it wrong to have prevented the CP from entering the estate?

2. What law justifies the actions of the CP?

3. How does the secrecy of the DSS exempt it from the rights of the police?
What are those rights?

4. When is "working hours" for the police? At what time did the CP attempt to enter the estate?

5. Can u quote verbatim the law that says that "the CP is empowered by law to enter that estate at working hours"?

CrystalBliss:


Ignorant fellow.

He doesn't know the difference between a publicly owned property and a privately owned public space.

Can you see how a so called educated man reasons?

✓ My street is a public owned space because anyone goes in and comes out

✓ My street is a publicly owned space because government erected the streets lights and made drainages.

Chai!!!

Spits!!

This loose head has gone from bizarre owning of the street near his house to public owned space vs privately owned space dichotomy.

Let me make it easier for you, once a road is being shared by 2 or more seperate residences nobody owns the road, it belongs to all of us, the government.

Seems you are not ready to accept the fact,the guy just told you the truth.
Police officers including the COP is always on duty guy, no law restricts his working hour to perform his duty. Street patrol is part of police duty as it affords him the chance to maintain lives, Orders and secure properties. You need to understand, the word, "duty" as used for police is wide and could include any place he finds himself so long as humans and properties are there.
He needs not see or know of any violation, what the law said is that where he reasonably suspect.... And you know that word reasonably suspect had not been interpreted by any court in Nigeria to mean an exact thing, these are discretionary and wide powers the law gave police to enable it fight crime, and protect lives, properties and Orders. Police can claim he suspects crime considering the many vehicles moving into the estate.

lexy2014:


It seems that u didn't read the law u quoted. Pls which duty was the CP on as at the time he visited the estate?

What has street patrol got to do with the discussion?

Meanwhile, What violation of law did the CP see that was ongoing in the estate that he wanted to go inside the estate to intervene?

lexy2014:


U still haven't answered my questions:

Based on section 41 of the constitution so quoted, are u saying that any Nigerian walk into aso rock or the police headquarters in abuja quoting that law?

In Section 4(g), was the street in question open to the public? Also take note of the word "facilitate". Was the CP facilitating or carrying out this function as at the time he visited the estate?

When u say that by reason of "sections 18 1(b) and (C) of the Administration of Criminal Justice Law of Lagos, 2015 (as amended in 2021) a police officer is mandated to arrest a suspect who commits an offence in the officer's presence or [b] a person who obstructs the police officer why executing his duty without an arrest warrant, can u pls tell me the arrest the CP was effecting and the offence that was committed?

Robot!

You said it all. The guy na pyscho blocked head. Let him quote his own laws too so we can critic it.

Plantiff:


It either you're willfully ignorant or your brain is simply thick. I'm seriously losing my cool

The road is not a "private property" simply because the residents have decided to build walls and mount gates to segregate others.

It's like saying public offices are boutiques because civil servants display their wares for sale or that roads blocked during big church programs belong to the church because they can block it anytime.

The gate is illegal and unconstitutional in the first place. That's what I've been saying from the beginning.

chukwukadibia20:
Seems you are not ready to accept the fact,the guy just told you the truth.
Police officers including the COP is always on duty guy, no law restricts his working hour to perform his duty. Street patrol is part of police duty as it affords him the chance to maintain lives, Orders and secure properties. You need to understand, the word, "duty" as used for police is wide and could include any place he finds himself so long as humans and properties are there.
He needs not see or know of any violation, what the law said is that where he reasonably suspect.... And you know that word reasonably suspect had not been interpreted by any court in Nigeria to mean an exact thing, these are discretionary and wide powers the law gave police to enable it fight crime, and protect lives, properties and Orders. Police can claim he suspects crime considering the many vehicles moving into the estate.

U haven't answered the questions. Pls read again especially the first line:

It seems that u didn't read the law u quoted. Pls which duty was the CP on as at the time he visited the estate?

What has street patrol got to do with the discussion?

Meanwhile, What violation of law did the CP see that was ongoing in the estate that he wanted to go inside the estate to intervene?

festacman:


If DSS has court-issued warrant and was stopped from making arrest, a criminal offence has been committed.

Out of point.

You're clever in your analysis but not clever enough to conceal your ill-taste bias.

The commissioner of police like any policeman is no different from the average citizen. If the estate has a protocol and security in place that governs entry, the police, except on official duty (with the issuance of a warrant) must adhere to the estate protocols.

The only grounds that the CP can hide under to cover his power-drunk and shameful actions is to claim the estate is a public space. It's not!

Very few individuals have the mental discipline and intellectual maturity not to abuse power. And with statements like yours, it's hard to see laws created that really curtail the abuses of law enforcement agencies and those in government.

GerogeI:


Robot!

Are u saying that u can't answer the questions:

Based on section 41 of the constitution so quoted, are u saying that any Nigerian walk into aso rock or the police headquarters in abuja quoting that law?

In Section 4(g), was the street in question open to the public? Also take note of the word "facilitate". Was the CP facilitating or carrying out this function as at the time he visited the estate?

When u say that by reason of "sections 18 1(b) and (C) of the Administration of Criminal Justice Law of Lagos, 2015 (as amended in 2021) a police officer is mandated to arrest a suspect who commits an offence in the officer's presence or [b] a person who obstructs the police officer why executing his duty without an arrest warrant, can u pls tell me the arrest the CP was effecting and the offence that was committed?

Pls address your questions to the Nigerian police(Lagos Command, COP) go to court too together with the estate and seek redress.

lexy2014:


U haven't answered my questions:

Based on section 41 of the constitution so quoted, are u saying that any Nigerian walk into aso rock or the police headquarters in abuja quoting that law?

In Section 4(g), was the street in question open to the public? Also take note of the word "facilitate". Was the CP facilitating or carrying out this function as at the time he visited the estate?

When u say that by reason of "sections 18 1(b) and (C) of the Administration of Criminal Justice Law of Lagos, 2015 (as amended in 2021) a police officer is mandated to arrest a suspect who commits an offence in the officer's presence or [b] a person who obstructs the police officer why executing his duty without an arrest warrant, can u pls tell me the arrest the CP was effecting and the offence that was committed?