thorpido:
I could break down all your comments and give you scriptures to explain but we probably will be going round in circles because of your stance(understanding).

You said Jesus didn't say but John/Paul.Mohammed never wrote the Quran It was said to be compiled by people who were with him.
You see I can also go on and on about why it was others who wrote the things you believe.
That's why I said the Light will shine upon your heart.

AntiChristian:


Muhammad recited the Qu'ran once every year and twice the last year he spent.

Many people in thousands memorised the entire Qu'ran during the Prophet's lifetime.
And till today millions still learn the Qu'ran by heart!

This is clear from authentic Islamic sources!

The people who wrote the Qu'ran were his companions! People who had memorised it in his lifetime. And it was compiled within the first few years after he died!

Compare this with your Bible.

Jesus never met Paul in real life. Saul who was anti-Jesus changed to Paul and then wrote about 60% of the new testament even more than all the remaining 11 disciples combined.

Mark was not a disciple.

Luke wrote Luke and Acts also wasn't a disciple.

Hebrew has no known author but some says it was written by Paul too.

Even Matthew was calling his own name when he me Jesus in Matthew!

Things don't add up! Just believe it in faith!
Ain't that Christianity?

AntiChristian:


Actually that's the way they pray those days. I have given several references from the Bible up there showing about 10 people in a somewhat similar position. And you should also check the other translation i posted up there.

It's a prayer position similar to other prayer position mentioned above.

thorpido:


So Ahab went to eat and drink. But Elijah climbed to the top of Mount Carmel and bowed low to the ground and prayed with his face between his knees.1 Samuel 18:42
That scripture says he prayed.How is that a conjecture?When you pray, don't you expect an answer?

elated177:


I was expecting you to provide me with the version you quoted the above from.

thorpido:
New Living Translation.

elated177:


I have heard you. You have made your own contribution to the question.

However, I don't think he was in a praying position. He prayed earlier and was not in that position.

Let us say, hypothetically, of course, that he was in a praying position, isn't there a difference between what is described in that portion of the Scripture and what you, antichristian, do when you pray? What do you think?

thorpido:
Muhammed claimed to have seen Angel Gabriel.Can you provide proof it was Angel Gabriel he saw?

Muslims claim the Bible has been doctored.Okay,why does Allah not have an authentic copy of the Torah?He couldn't preserve one?

elated177:
El Elohe Yahshrael!

1 Kings 18:42 42 So Ahab went off to eat and drink, but EliYah climbed to the top of Carmel, bent down to the ground and put his face between his knees.

Does anyone know why EliYah the prophet of God Almighty did what he did in the italicized portion of the quoted Scripture?

El Elohe Yahshrael! Hallelu YAH!

AntiChristian:

The proof is the Qu'ran the final revelation revealed to an unlettered man!


The Torah was revealed to Moses for his people and after it served its purpose that's the end. It was never meant to be an Everlasting book. Allah never said he'll preserve them.

Likewise the injeel revealed to Jesus.
The original copy of the revelations to Jesus does not exist anymore and what exists today are only hearsays, opinions, etc of others.

The worst is that the people who wrote the Bible can't be verified today. The journey of each book can't be traced.

thorpido:
Lol@ proof is the Quran........very escapist.
Why not book of budha as proof?

AntiChristian:


I think it's not exactly the same but not too far off.

Bowing down close to the ground is what is similar there.

AllahIsGarbage:
It's a prayer position.

AntiChristian:


Does the book of Buddha in any way supports the previous revelations and Prophets?

The Qu'ran does!

The last Prophet is Muhammad.
The religion is Islam!

Unlike Christ- Christianity
Buddha- Buddhism

elated177:


Let us just say you have no idea of what he was doing.

thorpido:
The Quran caims to corroborate the Revelations of the prophets(there's a difference).
If you say your moniker is antichristian,I can call you that too.It doesn't mean I agree with you.

AntiChristian:


I'm anti-christian because Christ never brought any religion called Christianity. Muhammad practiced and called the religion he practiced Islam.

Jesus's disciples called themselves Muslims in the Qu'ran.

Also Abraham, Moses, Noah and others.

So where does Christianity and Judaism come from in the Bible?

Probably from the powers of the world!

thorpido:
Listen to yourself@bolded.
You said Jesus and his disciples called themselves Muslims in the Quran yet Jesus and the disciples had left the world before Muhammed ever came up with the Quran.
Does that make sense?

That is why I asked you for the original copy of the injeel and you said Allah could not keep any.
To claim somebody said something is not the same as the person saying it.

AntiChristian:


The verse said he was praying in that position.

elated177:


The verse never said anything of the sort.

What do you think Elisha did here?

2 Kings 4: 34 Then he got on the bed and lay on the boy, mouth to mouth, eyes to eyes, hands to hands. As he stretched himself out on him, the boy’s body grew warm. 35 Elisha turned away and walked back and forth in the room and then got on the bed and stretched out on him once more. The boy sneezed seven times and opened his eyes.

elated177:
El Elohe Yahshrael!

1 Kings 18:42 42 So Ahab went off to eat and drink, but EliYah climbed to the top of Carmel, bent down to the ground and put his face between his knees.

Does anyone know why EliYah the prophet of God Almighty did what he did in the italicized portion of the quoted Scripture?

El Elohe Yahshrael! Hallelu YAH!

elated177:
El Elohe Yahshrael!

1 Kings 18:42 42 So Ahab went off to eat and drink, but EliYah climbed to the top of Carmel, bent down to the ground and put his face between his knees.

Does anyone know why EliYah the prophet of God Almighty did what he did in the italicized portion of the quoted Scripture?

El Elohe Yahshrael! Hallelu YAH!

AntiChristian:


The word translated to "bent down" here is (way·yiḡ·har) which can mean "to prostrate oneself".

AntiChristian:


I think the context of that verse shows Elisha prayed before doing those actions!
Maybe he was trying to raise the dead boy!