Mariangeles:
Must you know them?
They're known in their immediate community.

A woman who has accomplished the impossible all on by her own self only known by those in her immediate community?

10 How hard it is to find the perfect wife. She is worth far more than jewels.
11 Her husband depends on her. He will never be poor.
12 She does good for her husband all her life. She never causes him trouble.
13 She is always gathering wool and flax and enjoys making things with her hands.
14 She is like a ship from a faraway place.
She brings home food from everywhere.
15 She wakes up early in the morning, cooks food for her family, and gives the servants their share.
16 She looks at land and buys it. She uses the money she has earned and plants a vineyard.
17 She works very hard. She is strong and able to do all her work.
18 She works late into the night to make sure her business earns a profit.
19 She makes her own thread and weaves her own cloth.
20 She always gives to the poor and helps those who need it.
21 She does not worry about her family when it snows. She has given them all good, warm clothes.
22 She makes sheets and spreads for the beds, and she wears clothes of fine linen.
23 Her husband is a respected member of the city council, where he meets with the other leaders.
24 She makes clothes and belts and sells them to the merchants.
25 She is a strong person, and people respect her.
She looks to the future with confidence.
26 She speaks with wisdom and teaches others to be loving and kind.
27 She oversees the care of her house. She is never lazy.
28 Her children say good things about her. Her husband brags about her and says,
29 “There are many good women, but you are the best.”
30 Grace and beauty can fool you, but a woman who respects the Lord should be praised.
31 Give her the reward she deserves. Praise her in public for what she has done.

come on.... let us know them.

Kobojunkie:
A woman who has accomplished the impossible all on by her own self only known by those in her immediate community?
come on.... let us know them.

Kobo, dis matter be like the one wey we no go agree on, so make we leave am.

Mariangeles:
Kobo, dis matter be like the one wey we no go agree on, so make we leave am.

Then let's address the facts, shall we?

Read what is in fact written right there in Proverbs 31 and explain how 1 woman alone (or man) can accomplish all that please.

Notice how verse 15 even says she has servants, leading us to believe she doesn't in fact do it all by her own hands.

Kobojunkie:
Then let's address the facts, shall we?

Read what is in fact written right there in Proverbs 31 and explain how 1 woman alone (or man) can accomplish all that please.

Proverbs 31 talks about a woman who starts out on her own, then employ workers as she expands.

Mariangeles:
Proverbs 31 talks about a woman who starts out on her own, then employ workers as she expands.

What? Let's try not to add to what is written abeg!

Kobojunkie:
What? Let's try not to add to what is written abeg!

Kobo, abeg!

The "servants", aren't they her workers?

Mariangeles:
Kobo, abeg!

The "servants", aren't they her workers?

Yes, and what work do servants do? Isn't it the work that their master is given credit for?

15 She wakes up early in the morning, cooks food for her family, and gives the servants their share.

Consider for example what is written there in verse 15 again. We are told the master wakes up early in the morning to cook. Are we to in fact believe this woman wakes up early in the morning to prepare ingredients and cook(alone) a meal for her entire household comprising of her family and servants?

Kobojunkie:
Yes, and what work do servants do? Isn't it the work that their master is given credit for?

So, when I start out a business and as it grows, I employ workers, so you mean credit for the success of my will be given to my workers?

Mariangeles:
So, when I start out a business and as it grows, I employ workers, so you mean credit for the success of my will be given to my workers?

Recall what I said earlier of the Proverbs idea of a perfect woman then....

There is no woman or man that would meet up to the Proverbs 31 description there - na company ceo wey get employees at his beck and call fit accomplish wetin dem describe for there.

That so-called proverb was written by the mother of Lemuel, Solomon's wife, who herself had to endure life living with a husband who had about 999 other women in his life.

This. 100%

Kobojunkie:
Recall what I said earlier of the Proverbs idea of a perfect woman then....

There is no woman or man that would meet up to the Proverbs 31 description there - na company ceo wey get employees at his beck and call fit accomplish wetin dem describe for there.

That so-called proverb was written by the mother of Lemuel, Solomon's wife, who herself had to endure life living with a husband who had about 999 other women in his life.

No CEO started out as CEO na.

Wo Kobo, Je ka fi oro yen le.

Mariangeles:
No CEO started out as CEO na.

Wo Kobo, Je ka fi oro yen le.

I don't understand.

What I said is no lone man or woman can accomplish the proverb 31 feat. Only a Ceo aka one who has servants can do that.

Double0h7:


I'm not Christian...

Obviously...

Kobojunkie:
I don't understand.

What I said is no lone man or woman can accomplish the proverb 31 feat. Only a Ceo aka one who has servants can do that.

Those are proverbs na. The message is clear enough. A Woman should work hard to build her matrimonial home together with her husband.

rainlover:
Those are proverbs na. The message is clear enough. A Woman should work hard to build her matrimonial home together with her husband.

The message also clearly reveals that such a woman is a master, with servants of her own to help accomplish all the listed tasks. So if Proverbs 31 woman is what you want, be prepared to pay for servants and househelps .

Make sure to read through the entire proverb to better understand the woman described.

Kobojunkie:
The message also clearly reveals that such a woman is a master, with servants of her own to help accomplish all the listed tasks.

Make sure to read through the entire proverb to better understand the woman described.

well, don't forget that the Bible isn't like any other novel. You can't understand those proverbs by mere reading them.

rainlover:
well, don't forget that the Bible isn't like any other novel. You can't understand those proverbs by mere reading them.

The Bible like every other book out there is written for you in human language, by human minds, to be read and comprehended in much the same way as you would any other literature or communication out there presented in human tongue using basic human language comprehension skills which all humans are equipped with at some level.

So following what is written there in Proverbs 31, if Proverbs 31 woman is what you want, be prepared to pay for servants and househelp to aide her in achieving that dream of yours.

Kobojunkie:
The Bible like every other book out there is written for you in human language, by human minds, to be read and comprehended in much the same way as you would any other literature or communication out there presented in human tongue using basic human language comprehension skills which all humans are equipped with at some level.

So following what is written there in Proverbs 31, if Proverbs 31 woman is what you want, be prepared to pay for servants and househelp to aide her in achieving that dream of yours.

Well, I don't agree with all u just said. So you mean that women who aren't rich shouldn't hustle to build thier home?

Kobojunkie:
The message also clearly reveals that such a woman is a master, with servants of her own to help accomplish all the listed tasks. So if Proverbs 31 woman is what you want, be prepared to pay for servants and househelps .

Make sure to read through the entire proverb to better understand the woman described.

Wait a minute, hope it's not what I'm thinking �

rainlover:

Well, I don't agree with all u just said. So you mean that women who aren't rich shouldn't hustle to build thier home?

What part of it do you disagree with?

Women can and should hustle - it is their home too after all. However, not all rich women are proverbs 31 women, but only a rich woman - with servants at her beck and call - can attain the proverbs 31 status of a perfect woman.

So, if you want your wife to be a Proverbs 31 wife, you best make sure you both have enough money to employ maids and househelps even drivers to aide her in accomplishing that feat.

rainlover:

Wait a minute, hope it's not what I'm thinking �

Which is?

Kobojunkie:
Which is?

Are u a feminist??

rainlover:
Are u a feminist??

How does this apply to the discussion so far?

Kobojunkie:
How does this apply to the discussion so far?

well, never mind!

rainlover:
well, never mind!

You still haven't told me what part of what I said of the Bible you do not agree with.

Kobojunkie:
You still haven't told me what part of what I said of the Bible you do not agree with.

wait. I'll be right back.

What's up feminists?

Looks like feminists are beginning see life differently