vivaciousvivi:

Economic sanctions that were not as extreme as these.
Plus the citizens have clearly demonstrated they do not support such an unprovoked form of attack.
I beg your pardon, Navalny a traitor He is a Russian Hero! A patriot that has shown he and all he believes in - A Russian nation devoid of dictatorship by a devious and manipulating (albeit Brilliant) mad man!
Bro, come on!

You mean those less than One Thousand Protesting Citizens, out of about 140M Russians, represents a good percentage or all Russians, not supporting the invasion?
Where did you learn this sort of Statistical Deduction?

VirileNelly2420:
no matter wot u do or how gud u're in dis life, every can't be by your side. Because meagre number of persons came out to protest nd u term it all Russians?
Russia wit ova 140milion population.

ifiokjohn:
lol. Una de do like Na only Russia get Nuke. .shey Germany no get nuke too ba? No forget e no pass 100 years ago where Germany invade Russia if no be for US Russia for don become colony of Germany.
Make Russia no vex Germany make the German machines no vex invade them again...this time through Poland.

No also forget Germany is economically stronger than Russia 10timess

Chachamiliano:


You call the number meagre number? Let's wait and see. Time will tell

smallsmall:


Germany will never fight a War, unless they are invaded, take that from me.
This has to do with their activities in the past World War, not from any weakness..
Germany is even refusing to provide Ukraine with offensive weapons, despite pressure from the USA and other NATO allies, that should tell you something about their position, when it comes to War.
If you think Germany will stick out its neck with Russia, because of one useless Ukraine, you are O.Y.O.


BTW: The thing about being a Nuclear Power is that everyone knows that you are capable of reducing them to rubble, the question is whether they are angry enough, to trade their survival and freedom, for that certainty.
Even Russia will think twice before trying to use its Nuke but then, if a Dog is beaten and backed to the Wall as Russia is, it has nothing to loose anymore.
"He that is Down, needs fear no fall".

pansophist:
I know this will happen. People can't really fanthom how huge Russia is. If they ban you from their airspace, you're toast. For example to connect Asia and Europe, you have to fly through Russia. Imagine skipping Russian territory from aviation route, its basically suicidal. Its like you want to go to Abuja from lagos, but have to fly to Benin republic first, then to Niger Republic, then southbound to Abuja. Suicidal.

smallsmall:


You mean those less than One Thousand Protesting Citizens, out of about 140M Russians, represents a good percentage or all Russians, not supporting the invasion?
Where did you learn this sort of Statistical Deduction?

My problem with people on Nairaland is that they dont examine what they are really trying to argue about, they just launch an argument, just like that!
First, look at the definition of the phrase TRAITOR and see if it matches the behaviour of Navalny, that l itemised above.
What do you think Americans will call any American who aligns himself with a Russian Govt, against the American Govt?
A Hero?

Anyway, Nairaland is an all-comers affair, let us just enjoy the discussion and have a good laugh about it.

ManirBK:
we need to invade one country here in Africa just to make the world knows our capabilities as the giant of Africa.
Our powerful war jets must be ready for action. That Bakasi area must be restored.

chatinent:
My uncle told me a story about how Russia...then the Soviet Union, wanted to destroy the earth and live in the moon. Is it true please?

ManirBK:
we need to invade one country here in Africa just to make the world knows our capabilities as the giant of Africa.
Our powerful war jets must be ready for action. That Bakasi area must be restored.

Nonpartisan1:
At the end of the day Russia will become a pariah state cut off from the rest of the world. His people will revolt when all these economic sanctions by the West start weighing in.

Putin will never come out of this war the same again.

The LOSS:
1.NATO is going to beef up security with major deployments to its members bordering Russia.

2. Russia is going to be cut off from the rest of the world-trust me Russia is no China, the latest sanctions will bite very hard at home.

3. Many countries that have been reluctant to join NATO will freely come out now with applications, seeing how it was easy for Russia to invade a non member country.

4. When the latest Economic sanctions starts weighing in like say, 5months from now. The Russian massess will troop out in the streets and force a major regime change.

This is, I repeat a foolish war that Putin have chosen. And this could undo him in many ways..

Meanwhile, in other news: Here is Mayor of Kyiv Vitali Klitschko at the battlefront defending his country.

Klitschko is a former boxing champion and a millionaire, he could have fled Ukraine by private jet, live a happy life elsewhere, but he decided to fight for his country

Nonpartisan1:


Is Poland, Estonia, Romania not in its border? Next time, calm down and argue like a sane person. You are pouring spits everywhere.

sotall:

That Russia's gas is cheaper doesn't mean they cannot do without it.

Your second sentence reeks of unsound reasoning.
And 7 times cheaper is an exaggeration coming from your imagination.

The big players in Europe have started with their sanctions already.
Germany has put a halt to the Nord 2 certification.

Uk has been in the forefront of pursuing an exit of Russia from the Swift payment platform.

alabo1:


Wrong Analysis. The West cannot do without Gas from Russia. They can boycott oil (which they currently buy very little anyway) but not Gas. A cubic of Gas from Russia through pipelines is 70% times cheaper than Gas from any other source by Sea. So figure it out. Have you not noticed that few European countries have carried out meaningful actions over this issue till date?Economics always wins in the end. Peace

Nonpartisan1:


Stop shifting the goal post. Even as at today NATO build up of arms and personnel is unprecedented. Let your Putin try shit!

sotall:


You are just a kid who knows nothing.

AroleOduduwa2:


Let me guess, you got the info from MSM controled by the West. Saudi can invade Yemen with the support of US, but Russia can't defend herself before Ukraine become too powerful to tame.

alabo1:


Sorry for the typo. I meant 70% more expensive. However my reasoning remains valid. Cancelling Nord 2 means nothing as Gas prices have already increased by more than 50% since this crisis began and will soon hit 100% increase which is not sustainable for most of these nations especially during winter. Fact is Gas is best delivered via pipelines and shipping gas can never be cheaper.
Ban Russia from SWIFT? That won't happen and I don't have the energy to go into a discourse why. Peace

smallsmall:


You have tried your best but honestly, you dont know much about these events, beyond the PROPAGANDA you read/hear on Western, Main Stream Media.
Try to read/listen widely, especially to News from other Nations.
If you can, dont invest your emotions in issues like this, just focus on the FACTS.

American President is a Dictator or how do you define the word "Dictator"?
Putin was elected by his People (Russians), just like Joe Biden.
Infact, Putin's acceptability rating among Russians, is 69%, while that of Biden is a miserly 27%. meaning 73% of Americans dont want him as President, at this Moment.
But he is still the President, so does that not make him a Dictator?

nedekid:

Yeah, I am kid who knows nothing, but that does not change the fact that you are naive of international affairs.
Stick to apc, PDP banter, igbo vs yoruba brawl. Or better still the romance section of nairaland.

ManirBK:
there is no border between nigeria and Ghana but for me Cameroon is the perfect one. that bakasi area handed over to them must be restored.

smallsmall:


My suspicion is that, in the long term, there wont be long-term Peace in that Baltic Region, until they stop NATO from militarising that area.

Russia must be given "Verifiable, Security Guarantees" that NATO will not station Weapons or expand more into the Baltic Region.
But America will not want another country, not Russia, not China, to have military Capability to challenge its actions in other country.
America wants to be able to do whatever it wants to do, no matter how unjust, without any other country having the military capability to challenge it.
This is where Russia and China's problem with America lies.

pargelenis:
So many clueless Putin-lover-clowns on this thread. Where is our dear brainiac @Missy89 ? We please need your input on this crazy Putin aggression.

Reference:


That is the government.
What about the people.
Is the government going to feed them with oil and gas.
What about medicines, science and tech, commerce, industrial goods, banking services, education and whatever makes a nation competitive and prosperous.
When a country is sanctioned, the people will suffer and that is what makes for instability, not the government or the few individuals in it.
There will be huge job losses in all sectors, jobs the government will not be able to replace.
That is what matters.
Russia as a nation (not necessarily as a country) will be worse off.
The sanctions they have gone through these past years over Crimea had already done a lot of damage to the people, keeping a whole swathe of them in penury while the rest of Europe has generally kept above water.
It is only in a totalitarian society that the security of a country is more important than the security of its citizens, its nationals, the nation.
Most Russians want to be closer to Europe and in the future when the Soviet era generation is gone they will eventually join the EU.
Putin's time is coming to a gradual end and he knows it.... why the last kicks of a dying horse.

Chachamiliano:


You think so? Why are you guys not seeing the big picture here Imagine Russia being cut out by Europe? What makes you think that Russia is stronger than the world?

romzy33:
Why do you people decide to look down on Russia so much

smallsmall:
Well, it is obvious you lack the knowledge to engage me on this issue (No Offense intended).
Maybe you should ask for what "Existential threat" means or HOW they pose an Existential threat but to just use that as an excuse to duck and hide your ignorance, shows your level of exposure.

Seek knowledge and stop wallowing in MSM Propaganda that turn people like you into a M0r0n,
I honestly wish people like you will read widely, gather information from various unbiased sources and then form your own opinion, from an enlightened perspective.
I am a Student of European History and no be today.

jackslow:
north Korea has seen oil to buy,Iran will use this opportunity to buy good weapons with the money coming from their debtors ,Afghanistan will also trade with Russia since Russia has their own payment system they can use to by pass the sanctions

Deltavariant:
Turkey is very strategic to NATO military....