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Re: Russia Vs Ukraine: President Putin Ready To Negotiate by smallsmall: 8:11pm On Feb 25, 2022
cococandy:
A lot of things can be true at once so it doesn’t have to be either or.
Putin doesn’t need to invade Ukraine in order to maintain his own country’s sovereignty.
He’s a power hungry war mongering dictator.
The innocent people of Ukraine don’t need to be killed because he’s afraid of what America will do when in close proximity to them.
He might think he’s preemptively stopping a western “takeover” before it starts but that’s based on “what could happen”. Meanwhile he’s going to kill thousands of people just to achieve that. If he even does. It’s reckless, egocentric and maniacal.

Tell those people whose infants and children will die because of this to “remove emotions”. It’s easy to be emotionless when it’s not affecting us directly.



Well, l said we should analyse this without Emotions, right?
So, we will leave out the "babies and infants dying", which is very regrettable but in war, bad things happen and that is why it is very important to ACT AND PREVENT WAR from happening, rather than wait till War starts, before realising these things,

Dont forget that Ukranian Authorities have been killing Russian Children, Wives and Mothers in the Dombass, since 2014 till day, that is one of the reasons Russia is intervening in Ukraine, to STOP THE GENOCIDE,... or are their own Children not as equally important?

Putin has done everything possible, he begged EU, he NATO and even offered to join NATO in year 2000, he begged Ukraine, he wrote letters to America and begged the UN to intervene but NATO said his demands where "A Non-Starter"! They just ignored him and continued to load weapons on his doorstep in Ukraine and other Baltic States.

That out of the way, Putin is not trying to maintain his Sovereignty, that is a much easier thing for him.
What Putin is acting against, is an Existential threat to this Country and People! A Threat that could turn them to a Libya, an Iraq or even a Syria, in the hands of America and NATO.

You have said a lot of things that you think Putin should not have done and that is fine, but Tell us What you think he should do, in the current situation, to abate this Existential Threat he faces?

Or should he just have fold his hands while Russia becomes another Iraq or Syria or Libya?

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Re: Russia Vs Ukraine: President Putin Ready To Negotiate by techWriter3: 8:11pm On Feb 25, 2022
at this of somebody ... Uh, check my p.rofile if you need help with your dissertation, assignment, or thesis.
Re: Russia Vs Ukraine: President Putin Ready To Negotiate by DemMannaScam: 8:14pm On Feb 25, 2022
peppermint7:


Your USELESS mama remains a big fool.

Thief cheesy

Re: Russia Vs Ukraine: President Putin Ready To Negotiate by DerrickzB: 8:17pm On Feb 25, 2022
peppermint7:


Russia is suffering huge damages on their part


Btw What do Nigerians gain exactly from supporting this movement by Putin
Killing innocents people

I will repeat this again
Putin will suffer the consequences soon enough
Whom the gods want to kill
They first make them mad

Are you on ground in Ukraine?? Russia is suffering huge damages but na Ukraine Dey cry!! Na wa!! This update no come clear oo
Re: Russia Vs Ukraine: President Putin Ready To Negotiate by McEphiks(m): 8:29pm On Feb 25, 2022
NLandIsHypocrit:
grin Rushia only gave them a warning signal..... Where're those E-rats making noise on behalf of Ukraine just before the conflict saying Ukraine will shock Russia and I was like.... Do these people really understand what they're talking about? Imagine Ukraine raising war shoulder with Russia, no be juju be that? Now what point have Ukraine really scored in the whole gbas-gbos. grin grin Which Country is next now....

Nigeria how market?grin

What point did Russia score? Educate me please.

Last time I checked, there's a difference between winning a war and suffering casualties. I await your demystified explanation.
Re: Russia Vs Ukraine: President Putin Ready To Negotiate by Awesometouch1: 8:30pm On Feb 25, 2022
frog12:
go back to your study. yes, america sent russia weapons. i think just lorries, not even weapons. they were able to beat the germans back. during those times head of soviet/russia, stalin was killing all their scientists and inventors, so they lag in some way.

for your study, find out which country enter berlin first. berlin was germany capital then
You think it was just mere lorries? You need to stop thinking and find out the facts.
The question you haven't answered is why Russia couldn't accomplish these before the entry of the US?
Britain was what stood between the Germans and total conquest. Had the British falling earlier, Germany would've then concentrate on one war front which is the one with Russia and made a total sweep her.

In war, what matters is quality and not quantity. I don't know if I've stated this before.

Russia's main point of weakness is the lack of superior quality weaponry and that has remained till today.

Their Navy is way behind, not even a single carrier. They don't have it in the air, neither do they have the edge on the ground.
Re: Russia Vs Ukraine: President Putin Ready To Negotiate by godofuck231: 8:36pm On Feb 25, 2022
Shoot first ask questions later

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Re: Russia Vs Ukraine: President Putin Ready To Negotiate by Awesometouch1: 8:40pm On Feb 25, 2022
frog12:
go back to your study. yes, america sent russia weapons. i think just lorries, not even weapons. they were able to beat the germans back. during those times head of soviet/russia, stalin was killing all their scientists and inventors, so they lag in some way.

for your study, find out which country enter berlin first. berlin was germany capital then


Furthermore, German industries and military was been pounded both day and night by British and American Bombers non-stop. You think without that Russia could've ever dreamt of making any impact in that war by moving from defense to attack?
Additionally, the British and American ground forces had to cover the length of entire Europe to get to Germany beginning from North Africa and you are talking who entered Germany first, forgetting who did 90% of the work that made it possible.
You need the get your analysis right on this bro.
Re: Russia Vs Ukraine: President Putin Ready To Negotiate by yinkeys(m): 8:43pm On Feb 25, 2022
godofuck231:
Shoot first ask questions later
Lol you’ve definitely been in a fight before
Striking first I see
Re: Russia Vs Ukraine: President Putin Ready To Negotiate by godofuck231: 8:44pm On Feb 25, 2022
yinkeys:

Lol you’ve definitely been in a fight before
actually a negotiation, but far more deadlier
Re: Russia Vs Ukraine: President Putin Ready To Negotiate by JOemmy(m): 8:47pm On Feb 25, 2022
It really sucks to be a weak nation in this world look at how big nuclear powerful nations are invading and dealing with weaker nations without any provocation.

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Re: Russia Vs Ukraine: President Putin Ready To Negotiate by smallsmall: 8:51pm On Feb 25, 2022
Legend44:
Putin did not just invade Ukraine but also disrespected the international community and organisation.... do u know why.... cos the international organisation put in place as international police can't and will not do shit just as they can't do shit when the united States decides to do anything against the international policy. This event will test the credibility and effectiveness of the United Nations and if they fail just like the league of nations then u all should know that world war III is not far behind.


We said this same thing, when America was attacking Iraq, Libya, Syria, Afghanistan, etc.
The UN is controlled by America and it is no longer fit for purpose.
America attacked Libya, against UN wishes but USA is in charge.

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Re: Russia Vs Ukraine: President Putin Ready To Negotiate by nurudeen181(m): 8:54pm On Feb 25, 2022
peppermint7:

Russia is suffering huge damages on their part

Btw What do Nigerians gain exactly from supporting this movement by Putin Killing innocents people
I will repeat this again Putin will suffer the consequences soon enough Whom the gods want to kill They first make them mad
like you belive in those gods yourself...
Re: Russia Vs Ukraine: President Putin Ready To Negotiate by nurudeen181(m): 8:55pm On Feb 25, 2022
Ournolly:
A welcome move, enough killings, please.
I still do not understand why Russia should be at 'war' with Ukraine.
Such unmatched chaos should be avoided by any means necessary.
zelensky would be in a better place to answer this question olorun
Re: Russia Vs Ukraine: President Putin Ready To Negotiate by real777(m): 8:56pm On Feb 25, 2022
Just like the defunct USSR, to destroy Russia is by high rate of unemployment and hunger. Cut of import/export of food from major partner. Europe should go source for oil and gas elsewhere. Russia will be gone in 6 months. An hungry man is an angry man. Make them go dey trade with only China and some allies in Asia. Yeye bloody leader
Re: Russia Vs Ukraine: President Putin Ready To Negotiate by TrueNigerian300: 9:11pm On Feb 25, 2022
Gben5:
WESTERN MEDIA

When NATO murdered Muammar Muhammad Abu Minyar al-Gaddafi, Western media called it "Military intervention" and they no longer bother to report that the evil military action led by Obama has left the country in worse condition.

George Walker Bush and Tony Blair lied that Saddam Hussein Abd al-Majid al-Tikriti has weapon of mass destruction (WMD) just to invade Iraq. After they destroyed the country and captured Saddam Hussein who was consequently executed, Bush said "We do not know whether or not (Iraq) has nuclear weapon." Both men who engineered a tragedy that took over 250,000 lives are not even facing trials for war crimes. Western media do not paint them in bad light as it ought to be.

Western media will not tell you that Ukraine has been forcing Luhansk and Donetsk regions to be part of it, in spite of vast majority of the people choosing to be independent via a referendum. What they want you to believe is that Vladimir Putin is bullying innocent Ukraine for pleasure.

Western media will not tell you that trampling on Ukraine's sovereignty is not Moscow Kremlin's main aim but survival against US-led NATO's encroachment, with the insistence on admitting Ukraine into NATO after allowing other Eastern European countries: Bulgaria, Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania, Romania, Slovakia, and Slovenia to join.

America can recognise the independence of Taiwan but Russia cannot recognise the independence of Luhansk and Donetsk.

America can recognise Jerusalem as the Capital of Israel but Russia cannot take back its people in Crimean Peninsula after they voted to join them.

Western media want you to believe that the West is always right while Russia and China are the perpetual bad guys.

You just summarized the hypocrisy they know what to do to end the war but they just choose to sacrifice Ukraine.
Re: Russia Vs Ukraine: President Putin Ready To Negotiate by peppermint7(m): 9:24pm On Feb 25, 2022
DerrickzB:


Are you on ground in Ukraine?? Russia is suffering huge damages but na Ukraine Dey cry!! Na wa!! This update no come clear oo

Re: Russia Vs Ukraine: President Putin Ready To Negotiate by frog12: 9:27pm On Feb 25, 2022
ok, but the russians are not being given credit. simple. anyway, putin say ukrainians they use human shields bevcause americans tell them to do it, but west media only say putin want army to turn on their leader. soon the west go ban RT channel

Awesometouch1:

Furthermore, German industries and military was been pounded both day and night by British and American Bombers non-stop. You think without that Russia could've ever dreamt of making any impact in that war by moving from defense to attack?
Additionally, the British and American ground forces had to cover the length of entire Europe to get to Germany beginning from North Africa and you are talking who entered Germany first, forgetting who did 90% of the work that made it possible.
You need the get your analysis right on this bro.
Re: Russia Vs Ukraine: President Putin Ready To Negotiate by akwunomy(m): 9:38pm On Feb 25, 2022
Ukraine put themselves in the position…after the break of USSR…Ukraine was more powerful than Russia and hold more Nuke from the USSR than Russia…however, over the years, Russia has tricked them into believing that they are better off siding with them than facing EU or West…They send all their nuke to Russia…why Russia is building their Military…over the years…being a formidable power…they depends Russia…

It is heartbreaking that the West can protect them…At least when Russia and was building up at their boarder….they West refused to send them Weapons…at least to have a fighting chance…

This is another Bay of Pigs….
Re: Russia Vs Ukraine: President Putin Ready To Negotiate by Holaomoakin(m): 9:43pm On Feb 25, 2022
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Re: Russia Vs Ukraine: President Putin Ready To Negotiate by Emdebby2: 9:43pm On Feb 25, 2022
NLandIsHypocrit:
grin Rushia only gave them a warning signal..... Where're those E-rats making noise on behalf of Ukraine just before the conflict saying Ukraine will shock Russia and I was like.... Do these people really understand what they're talking about? Imagine Ukraine raising war shoulder with Russia, no be juju be that? Now what point have Ukraine really scored in the whole gbas-gbos. grin grin Which Country is next now....
Lol...

Nigeria how market?grin
Re: Russia Vs Ukraine: President Putin Ready To Negotiate by Emdebby2: 9:43pm On Feb 25, 2022
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Lol
Re: Russia Vs Ukraine: President Putin Ready To Negotiate by DemMannaScam: 9:54pm On Feb 25, 2022
peppermint7:


Your USELESS mama remains a big fool.
Meanwhile, the flogging of ukraine continues...

Wretched fool cheesy cheesy

Re: Russia Vs Ukraine: President Putin Ready To Negotiate by Ournolly: 9:56pm On Feb 25, 2022
nurudeen181:
zelensky would be in a better place to answer this question olorun
Dude, watch the news for a minute.
Zelensky is already crying bitterly of being abandoned to fight a bigger force which the world super powers do not want to offer help (his exact words).

I am not even supporting either but it is very stupid to think Ukraine can match Russia firepower.
From the way the battle is ranging Kiev will fall within the next 48 hours.
Re: Russia Vs Ukraine: President Putin Ready To Negotiate by Chrisvotel: 9:59pm On Feb 25, 2022
Investorozay:


russia was already hearing it economically before this
yes he might smash ukraine and get what he wants but starvation go tidy them
yes but the whole of Europe might also be affected cause Russia is the biggest supplier of petroleum products in that continent
Re: Russia Vs Ukraine: President Putin Ready To Negotiate by DemMannaScam: 10:02pm On Feb 25, 2022
As in ehh
The fool is confused. He said russia is suffering while na ukraine dey collect

peppermint7 u are iredeemably foolish cheesy

DerrickzB:


Are you on ground in Ukraine?? Russia is suffering huge damages but na Ukraine Dey cry!! Na wa!! This update no come clear oo
Re: Russia Vs Ukraine: President Putin Ready To Negotiate by neuf(m): 10:25pm On Feb 25, 2022
FinallyFamous:
I beg to differ, you are even more ignorant than the people u criticise. The aim was not to destroy Ukraine, it was a chess game , and Ukraine played in to Russian hand, they are neighbors or better yet brothers..I bet same will not be said of a USA vs RUSSIA full blown war (God forbid) Russia allows what ever happened to happen it was a calculated risk . They want a situation where they could say Ukraine also did them bad too, and sheild the sword..this will keep or give Ukraine some dignity..as a proxy Russian federation

Russia already got what they wanted(the control of the nuclear field)

You don't know much about warfare do you?

which nuclear field...

Ukraine that gave up it's nuclear arsenal since the Budapest agreement.

it's the confidence to type rubbish that's it for me... bravo

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Re: Russia Vs Ukraine: President Putin Ready To Negotiate by LIONSABRE(m): 10:26pm On Feb 25, 2022
oh,so now you are ready to negotiate. embarassed
Re: Russia Vs Ukraine: President Putin Ready To Negotiate by TheOgaBoss: 10:26pm On Feb 25, 2022
Investorozay:


russia was already hearing it economically before this
yes he might smash ukraine and get what he wants but starvation go tidy them
it is the Ukrainian president that offered to discuss their neutral status after Russia invaded, Putin is only accepting the offer.
Re: Russia Vs Ukraine: President Putin Ready To Negotiate by wasi9ice: 11:05pm On Feb 25, 2022
Putin will reap what he has sown in Ukraine,,
His arm of flesh will fail him, he will look for help and will not get.
God will disgrace him and punish him and his surpporters,,
Re: Russia Vs Ukraine: President Putin Ready To Negotiate by ifiokjohn(m): 11:11pm On Feb 25, 2022
NLandIsHypocrit:
This why I always advice kids not to be jumping in every discussion simply because they find phone on their hands
tell you Russia to invade Poland and their soldiers will return in body bags.. NATO and the US has 5k soldiers stationed there already. If them born Russia welmake them cross
Re: Russia Vs Ukraine: President Putin Ready To Negotiate by ifiokjohn(m): 11:12pm On Feb 25, 2022
ogbe88:
U think this is call of duty game, by the way the west propaganda has brainwashed your mind.
tell your Russia to invade Poland na. US has 5k soldiers stationed there already. Russia soldiers will return in body bags

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