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Re: Germany, Allies Have Taken Decision To Cut Some Russian Banks From SWIFT by grandiose4ever: 1:52pm On Feb 27, 2022
obedience4:


Well sir you are not informed.. Israel for over 20 years have been the highest recipient of American military aid.. Also not just with aid alone. The Americans has also vetod decision against Israel in the UN security council..also the us has a agreement with the Jews to make sure they receive the best weapons of all us allies in Asia...
No country is fully missile proof even with the iron dome system Israel get breach once in s while by hamas rockets..
You can't compare isresl and Ukraine one has constantly receive billions of American military aid over the years..
Google America military aid to Israel....

Did the 1948 war happen 20 years ago?
Did the 1967 war happen 20 years ago
Did the yom Kippur war of the 70s happen 20 years ago?

What are you talking about?
Re: Germany, Allies Have Taken Decision To Cut Some Russian Banks From SWIFT by fashrola(m): 1:52pm On Feb 27, 2022
shiwex:
means nothing. Do you think they did not think of all these already. Iran was cut of six 7 years ago....did they die?

Do you read news at all? Iran economy was on a verge on collapse, they had to call US for negotiation talks in Vienna
Re: Germany, Allies Have Taken Decision To Cut Some Russian Banks From SWIFT by obedience4(m): 2:06pm On Feb 27, 2022
grandiose4ever:


Did the 1948 war happen 20 years ago?
Did the 1967 war happen 20 years ago
Did the yom Kippur war of the 70s happen 20 years ago?

What are you talking about?

I said Israel has been the highest in the last 20 years.. That doesn't mean that Israel hasn't been reciveing aid before 20 years.. Egypt used to be the highest recipient of us military aid

Re: Germany, Allies Have Taken Decision To Cut Some Russian Banks From SWIFT by Dybala11(m): 3:19pm On Feb 27, 2022
grandiose4ever:
By the way, this Ukraine War makes me laugh at those who for many years have told us that the reason the Israelis win wars in the middle east is because of US support.

The US would do a lot for an ally including providing intelligence, financing, political and economical pressure against the opponent. But not the deployment of troops to help you fight your war - that rarely happens.

This is the reality the Israelis lived with and mastered and were able to successfully maintain a safe state in the presence of their enemies. Only the Israelis truly understood how to exploit America's power - they don't live under illusions of intervention.

Imagine trying to use short, mid range rockets to cripple the Israeli defenses you'd both be at it for the next three years. Even if you'd beat the Israelis. You can't make a quick work of them like Putin has done to Ukraine.


You're right, some nations like Israel and South Korea are wise as hell. All their citizens are mandated to undergo military training, making them all the country's reserve in the eventuality of war. grin
Re: Germany, Allies Have Taken Decision To Cut Some Russian Banks From SWIFT by budaatum: 4:06pm On Feb 27, 2022
budaatum:
By the end of the week I'd expect to start hearing about a nuclear button with mad Putin's hand on it.

I was years out, lol.
https://www.nairaland.com/7006612/putin-puts-russias-nuclear-forces

Re: Germany, Allies Have Taken Decision To Cut Some Russian Banks From SWIFT by vivaciousvivi(f): 5:24pm On Feb 27, 2022
olas24u:


China launched its Cross-Border Interbank Payment System (CIPS) in 2015, using the yuan. Russia developed its System for Transfer of Financial Messages (SPFS). To build an independent Russian-Chinese financial system by linking the two should not be a problem.


Iran has had the sanctions in time past, and it nothing new
The so called option you mentioned which Russia tried to initiate (after the 2014 Crimea annexation where the threat of removing them from SWIFT was first proposed ), is yet to take off successfully 8yrs later.
It's not as easy as you make it seem as it involves as much as 11k financial institutions across the world to jump on board
Re: Germany, Allies Have Taken Decision To Cut Some Russian Banks From SWIFT by Missy89(f): 7:02pm On Feb 27, 2022
Appleyard:


Did you just type this Nonsense for the sake of Likes or what?

Between the United Snakes of Abomination and Russia, who has committed more altrocities in modern history? undecided

Your lying, satanic, LGBT led armed forces invaded and turn Iraq to shreds under false pretext that Iraq possessed weapons of mass destruction, and here you are typing trash? May the blood of all murdered innocent children, mothers, fathers, goats, pigs and fowls in Iraq, Syria, Somalia, Sudan, Serbia, Panama, Laos, Vietnam, Nicaragua, and many more, haunt you, the Americans and all their lineage till Jesus returns.

Amen. cool

World autocrats? Lmao. No other part of the world boast of dangerous autocrats than you have in America and it's Nationalized American Terrorists Organization' (sorry, NATO), coward idiots that invaded nations, blatantly defying UN resolutions forbidden the invasions. Now that they have met their match, they chicken out like the cowards they are, instead throwing sanctions that would only be mildly effective since some of the same nations grudgingly playing along now to please their counterparts would secretly open a backdoor to run show with the Kremlin while the rest goes on suffering in obeying Uncle Sam and it's wardogs.

The only man in the room that has actually said " the time for conversation is over" is the boss from Kremlin, and Russia is the only one on a " war footing".

I dont know what you smoked last night .... Wake up, baby cool... This is not Hollywood. This is RUSSIA in military action in its own backyard. Your war footing call can only falls on the ears of the dead... cool even your masters in Washington are begging their slave Zelensky for his evacuation. cool. As senile as they are, they know the Russians means business. You crossed a Russian redline, what do you expect? cheesy

You shouldn't be using the term 'we' since you're the one wanting to play the hero like you watch Rambo do in Hollywood. cool

So, grab some guns, they are sold everywhere in the US, particularly in crime infested Chicago. Tie them with your G-strings panties (since that's what most of the LGBT-led US forces wears these days), you may need them in case the merciful Russians in the Donbass captures you, they don't kill women (but try and avoid the Chechyen Batallion like a plague, they hate anything girly in uniform grin) and move to the front lines in Ukraine. I give you my blessings.

Adieu. cool cool cool

Russia is a land grabbing criminal state masquerading as a civilized country.

Her rag tag army is currently having a taste of hot NATO steel in the hands of UA. Putin the megalomaniac can hide behind his nuclear deterrence because he is stuck in a 1980 time capsule.

Russian “super soldiers” are only on YouTube. In reality, poor tactics and Soviet era thinking is still common.
Re: Germany, Allies Have Taken Decision To Cut Some Russian Banks From SWIFT by Appleyard(m): 8:49pm On Feb 27, 2022
Missy89:


Russia is a land grabbing criminal state masquerading as a civilized country.

Her rag tag army is currently having a taste of hot NATO steel in the hands of UA. Putin the megalomaniac can hide behind his nuclear deterrence because he is stuck in a 1980 time capsule.

Russian “super soldiers” are only on YouTube. In reality, poor tactics and Soviet era thinking is still common.


Russia is far more civilized than the United Snakes of Atrocities that kills more than 500,000 people in Iraq and is in Syria stealing their oil.

Russia's rag-tag army destroyed all American sponsored Terrorists in Syria, ensured that it's pet project ISIS is completely destroyed and handed more than 80 percent of the country back to its legitimate government. That's the kind of rag-tag at army we love. cool

American LGBT-led army in Iraq had to bribe Iraqis army Generals not to fight back so they could have an easy ride against the remaining demoralized Saddam's army. And were completely defeated by the Taliban in Afghanistan after 20 years of wasted lives and billions of dollars lost, running away on the back of Let's Go Brandon' like the cowards they are.

The Russians keep playing around with the UkiNazis, giving them time to negotiate a face-saving surrender and for civilians to clear out, unlike your girly American forces that directly target women and children in Iraq, used chemical bombs against whole Vietnam villages. And here you are, a pot calling the kettle black. How convenient... cool

Your propaganda mainstream media didn't tell you that the rag-tag Russkies have cleaned up Kharkiv and in the coming days, a new government will be announced soon. cool

Once the main Ukro Azov battalion in Mariupol that have chosen to fight till death is finally cut into shreds (sorry for the Russian army that will have to sacrifice a bit more casualties and risk huge civilian deaths), and Mariupol finally falls, cutting off supply lines for the remaining UkroNazi forces, the reality will then hit your irks that the Russians are grandmasters of the geopolitical game. cool

Already, your darling Uncle Sam has assessed the whole situation and they knew what the Russians are doing, and what is coming, hence they requested to evacuate Zelensky, but the comedian president thinks he is doing comedy in Hollywood. cool

Pathetic.

By the time the Russians starts the second phase, which the Americans have seen coming, the ediot comedian and that chocolate company owner oligarch, porochenko and Klitchko that keep posting their photos in army uniforms to social media, deceiving and goading ordinary citizens to join the fight will disappear to their five-star hotels leaving the rest to die off.

Whatever, I detest war, but since I can't do anything to stop it, I would say sit back and enjoy how Russia disappoint your dream of a NATO-back UkroNazi. It's game over forever for NATO's dream for Ukraine. cool

Adieu my lady. cool

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Re: Germany, Allies Have Taken Decision To Cut Some Russian Banks From SWIFT by Appleyard(m): 9:30pm On Feb 27, 2022
fashrola:


Do you read news at all? Iran economy was on a verge on collapse, they had to call US for negotiation talks in Vienna
Lmao. The Russians already have their own payment system in place. It's simple, If you want to do business with them, then you will have to use their system, and it will surprise you that there are backdoors to these systems also. You can research that.

Moreover, many of the countries in Europe knows that cutting of RUSSIA completely from Swift will further imposed higher cost on their economies.

It's easy for the German chancellor to say that Germany will import their gas from the US and UAE if Russia turns off the tap. There is no substitute for cheap gas cool.

Getting gas from US and UAE is 5-7 times costlier than the amount they buy from Russia. A total SWIFT cut off will not only accelerate the cost for gas but will also sky high the cost of already rising oil, which means the Russians, Nigerians, Brazilians and those oil producing nations would be making more money, almost thrice the amount they were making before the crisis started. That means same people that imposed this sanctions like the US that depends on Russian oil will be paying thrice for it, now who is foolish?

It's like you sanctioned me but whatever pain the sanction is costing me, you end up paying for it via increased prices. cool

It is because of this reality that the Europeans have decided to only suspend selected Russian banks from the SWIFT system. cool

They knew that a complete shut off of Russia would drive cost for bills up to 7 times over household expenses in their various economies, and in turn leads to more inflation in consumer goods and services, and since Europeans have very short tolerance for such hardship/inconveniences, it's most likely that the protest would begin first in some European capital much earlier before anyone would occur in Russia. cool

Sanctions are a two edged sword, and even Biden is already anticipating the possible backfire from all these hence, he is urging companies to not increases prices that will further skyrocket the inflation rates Americans are suffering now, in case the Russians disrupt the market for electronic chips by banning chip making materials for which US companies relies on Russia to supply.

So, don't allow the SWIFT option to overwelm you too much yet. This is geopolitics and the Russians are grandmasters of the game. cool

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Re: Germany, Allies Have Taken Decision To Cut Some Russian Banks From SWIFT by WATCHMANX: 8:25pm On Feb 28, 2022
Johnrake69:


Necessity is the mother of invention. I think it’s a huge risk the west is taking. If Russia, China can come up with an alternative it’s going to weaken the west economic wise. People supporting the west don’t understand what’s going on. We need Russia, China to check mate western excesses. Unipolar world as being championed by the west is not in the interest of world peace. Imagine having bokoharam dealing with us here and America says we can’t get weapons to fight back.
... because the deep state faction inside the CIA, and the false Israelis Jews(aka Synagogue of Satan) aka khazarian mafia, established and continuously provides the logistics for Boko Haram and now ISWAP. The same way they established ISIS.
That's why the weak, clueless and ignorant government in Nigeria cannot defeat the terrorists....
Re: Germany, Allies Have Taken Decision To Cut Some Russian Banks From SWIFT by fashrola(m): 10:11pm On Feb 28, 2022
Appleyard:

[s]Lmao. The Russians already have their own payment system in place. It's simple, If you want to do business with them, then you will have to use their system, and it will surprise you that there are backdoors to these systems also. You can research that.

Moreover, many of the countries in Europe knows that cutting of RUSSIA completely from Swift will further imposed higher cost on their economies.

It's easy for the German chancellor to say that Germany will import their gas from the US and UAE if Russia turns off the tap. There is no substitute for cheap gas cool.

Getting gas from US and UAE is 5-7 times costlier than the amount they buy from Russia. A total SWIFT cut off will not only accelerate the cost for gas but will also sky high the cost of already rising oil, which means the Russians, Nigerians, Brazilians and those oil producing nations would be making more money, almost thrice the amount they were making before the crisis started. That means same people that imposed this sanctions like the US that depends on Russian oil will be paying thrice for it, now who is foolish?

It's like you sanctioned me but whatever pain the sanction is costing me, you end up paying for it via increased prices. cool

It is because of this reality that the Europeans have decided to only suspend selected Russian banks from the SWIFT system. cool

They knew that a complete shut off of Russia would drive cost for bills up to 7 times over household expenses in their various economies, and in turn leads to more inflation in consumer goods and services, and since Europeans have very short tolerance for such hardship/inconveniences, it's most likely that the protest would begin first in some European capital much earlier before anyone would occur in Russia. cool

Sanctions are a two edged sword, and even Biden is already anticipating the possible backfire from all these hence, he is urging companies to not increases prices that will further skyrocket the inflation rates Americans are suffering now, in case the Russians disrupt the market for electronic chips by banning chip making materials for which US companies relies on Russia to supply.

So, don't allow the SWIFT option to overwelm you too much yet. This is geopolitics and the Russians are grandmasters of the game. cool
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LMAO THRASH....
Re: Germany, Allies Have Taken Decision To Cut Some Russian Banks From SWIFT by Joshy4u: 11:01pm On Mar 13, 2022
Appleyard:
Unfortunately, the Ukrianian invasion is already funding the war. For the first time in close to a decade, oil prices have surpassed $100. Do you know how many oil producing nations have been wishing for this opportunity? cool Such countries are low-key urging the Russians to buy time for their economy with the invasion. Wheat prices are soaring too, and Russia and Ukraine are the leading producers of wheat in the world. My friend, what is another man's poison is another man's meat. Such is the reality of the world we live in.

I can only laugh reading most of the comments here. Is only the ignorant mind that would think cutting SWIFT is the end of Russia. There is more to this than you can ever imagine.

Oga even their minister complained about the negative impacts of the sanctions on the Russia economy.
Stop analysing what is bigger than you.

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