How can dat be a disgrace?
Atleast its always available in our markets.
BTW, who tell you say na from here the seed/plant go Indonesia?

For you to compete with the likes of Malaysia and Indonesia , you have to be ready to seize lands from subsistent farmers and either give that to the 'collectives" or to businesses willing to invest massively in this sector. Malaysia is said to be producing over 3 million tonnes. If you have been to Malaysia, once your plane is approaching the airport, take a look out of the window. All you see for miles before the capital city proper are oceans of well planned palm fields. Where are you going to do that say in the east without starting another Umulaeri vs Aguleri?

The point is that for you to produce that much, you need huge farms. To have the huge farms , you have to confiscate lands and with the growing population in the east where palm oil is produced more and the tendency to keep lands for big country-homes over there, this wont be easy politics. If the government is not willing to re-do our land ownership sytem deu to the controversy that will follow, thereby failing to provide lands for massive palm fields, the only alternative left is to distribute fast/high yeilding fruits to village women to plant in their lands. They cherish their palm trees a lot because it is the only guarranteed source of income for many. Okpara or so did that in the 60s i guess. Palm trees dont need much nurturing/care  to grow anyway.

You don't have to confiscate lands; you can just buy them. And most agricultural land is owned by govt.

owobokiri:

For you to compete with the likes of Malaysia and Indonesia , you have to be ready to seize lands from subsistent farmers and either give that to the 'collectives" or to businesses willing to invest massively in this sector. Malaysia is said to be producing over 3 million tonnes. If you have been to Malaysia, once your plane is approaching the airport, take a look out of the window. All you see for miles before the capital city proper are oceans of well planned palm fields. Where are you going to do that say in the east without starting another Umulaeri vs Aguleri?

The point is that for you to produce that much, you need huge farms. To have the huge farms , you have to confiscate lands and with the growing population in the east where palm oil is produced more and the tendency to keep lands for big country-homes over there, this wont be easy politics. If the government is not willing to re-do our land ownership sytem deu to the controversy that will follow, thereby failing to provide lands for massive palm fields, the only alternative left is to distribute fast/high yeilding fruits to village women to plant in their lands. They cherish their palm trees a lot because it is the only guarranteed source of income for many. Okpara or so did that in the 60s i guess. Palm trees dont need much nurturing/care  to grow anyway.

This makes a lot of sense.

black.rules:

How can dat be a disgrace?
Atleast its always available in our markets.
BTW, who tell you say na from here the seed/plant go Indonesia?

The way some of you people think. . .

Where do you think Indonesia got the oil palm plant from? It is not indigenous Asia, but it is to Nigeria.

Who needs palm oil?! We produce something way better. . . . . . . PALM WINE!!!!!! *crickets creaking* That must have sounded very ignorant!

Wow this is sickening, I had no idea palm oil was indegenous to Nigeria. My my we had something much more valuable than crude oil.

@op how profitable do you think palm oil is, Could you just start a farm with say 50k and make money? How Long does it take the trees to grow?

Also there is one problem here, if Nigeria starts Producing millions of tons of palm oil over night the market would saturate and it wouldn't be profitable anymore. So I think this one is a missed oppertunity.

pleep:

Wow this is sickening, I had no idea palm oil was indegenous to Nigeria. My my we had something much more valuable than crude oil.

@op how profitable do you think palm oil is, Could you just start a farm with say 50k and make money? How Long does it take the trees to grow?

Also there is one problem here, if Nigeria starts Producing millions of tons of palm oil over night the market would saturate and it wouldn't be profitable anymore. So I think this one is a missed oppertunity.

It was more valuable and more sustainable for us, but we chose to rely on oil. That is truly the disgrace.

Palm oil is very profitable in terms of internal trade in Africa as well as trade with other developing countries. I do not come from a family that had oil palms, but in the past, my grandfather's father was traded oil palm to the coast. But that was in the distant past.

If Nigeria starts producing tons of palm oil, of course the price of it would decline. I would not price wars with Malaysia and Indonesia. This oil palm is OUR indigenous plant. And there is always internal trade.

I do not see this as missed opportunity, because the world's population continues to grow.

Where is tpiah?

She knows a lot about the oil palm plant.

Guys don't deceive yourselves. We lost it! Looks else where.

phreakabit:

Guys don't deceive yourselves. We lost it! Looks else where.

Why give up so easily? Haven't you heard of trade wars?

There standard of living is much higher than our own and we can afford a trade war with them, because any money from palm oil would do wonders for our rural population. It is better than nothing. . .

Perhaps all is not lost. Since palm oil Is Indigenous to Nigeria it is probable that nigerian palm oil will be of higher quality than Malaysian ones.

pleep:

Perhaps all is not lost. Since palm oil Is Indigenous to Nigeria it is probable that nigerian palm oil will be of higher quality than Malaysian ones.

Correct! We just need to start focusing on our comparative advantage.

Nigeria needs mechanized farming. QED. We have the capacity to produce a wide variety of food. CAsava, plantain, banan etc. which Indonasia doesnt have, But mechanized farming would do thee trick

As a student of agriculture at OAU back in the days, the lecturers used to tell us stories of how scientists came from Malaysia and Indonesia to the south west universities of Nigeria in the mid 70s and were given palm seeds for experimental purposes. Never did they know then that the seeds would become the livelihood of these countries today.
They were viewed as non entities back then but are now world movers from Palm produce, here we are in our big brother regallia, even the crude cannot be refined here. Shame!

vislabraye:

Nigeria needs mechanized farming. QED. We have the capacity to produce a wide variety of food. CAsava, plantain, banan etc. which Indonasia doesnt have, But mechanized farming would do thee trick

Mechanized farming would be a boon for Nigeria's economy and it will help stop our reliance on oil.

All buzzing about Indonesia and Malaysia getting oil palm seed from Nigeria is A MYTH. It is only gossip. Please check properly before making claim. Nigeria became exporter in ancient time was only trading among African countries never been to the world and at that time global demand was still low and dominated by other seed oil like soya oil.

Learn the fact that during Dutch ruling in Indonesia, organized oil palm plantation had been aimed to be established while in Nigeria still depended on output from wild grow oil palm.

Now in Indonesia and Malaysia there are millions of hectares of oil palm plantation with tens of mega scale plantations while in Nigeria till now there are only two mid scale organized plantation Okomu and Presco, going to be three when Wilmar starts harvesting from its plantation in Calabar. As comparison, a company in Indonesia or Malaysia manages hundreds of thousands hectares of oil palm plantation, it is gigantic compare to Okomu and Presco that only in control just less than 50,000 hectares each.

It is not only the government need to be blamed but also the people. Community in form of youth always creates unfriendly environment to investor. 'Area boy' attitude can't do farm work that requires very very very hard work. It is a bitter fact that Nigeria is not investment friendly.

Do you think influx of investment to Nigeria presently because Nigeria is becoming attractive? It is not so, but because Investment managers need place to spread their portfolio because of bad economy in most prominent market such as europe, US, and Asia is also slowing down. Nigeria position is already in the bottom and it has big population and it also still some how more reliable from other African countries which is politically unstable. In term of economy, Nigeria also more stable because its oil, which the only main source of income for the country, this scenario shows that no matter how bad oil price is (like today), Nigeria still has to sell oil because of it doesn't have choice.

See also non oil sectors, manufacturing and business still are dominated by Indian and Lebanese. They overrun Nigeria small economy. Where is Nigerian? Now who to be blamed?

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