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Re: APC Dares INEC, Vows To Go Ahead With March 26 Convention by olatuns2017: 9:01pm On Mar 11, 2022
Re: APC Dares INEC, Vows To Go Ahead With March 26 Convention by Leo588(m): 9:05pm On Mar 11, 2022
Lawless idiots and looters.
Re: APC Dares INEC, Vows To Go Ahead With March 26 Convention by Mexyz(m): 9:15pm On Mar 11, 2022
APC government signed a bill into law, the law became a clog in the wheel of their progress.

To think that we have several lawyers and SANS in that party is something else.

VP is a SAN
Minister of works-SAN
Festus Keyamo-SAN

Even oga Sagay is there, so how did Mr President sign a bill that became a hindrance to his own party?

God is wonderful.

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Re: APC Dares INEC, Vows To Go Ahead With March 26 Convention by Odidigboigbo(m): 9:16pm On Mar 11, 2022
This one doesn't even know what is happening in his party. The INEC letter was about the proposed emergency NEC meeting.
Re: APC Dares INEC, Vows To Go Ahead With March 26 Convention by Odidigboigbo(m): 9:26pm On Mar 11, 2022
Indispensable85:


Oga it's not an election or nomination of EXCO. It's just to inform INEC he's out of town and Sani Bello has been delegated powers to as acting chairman.
I thought you guys are claiming that Buni didn't handover to Sani Belo but rather Buhari was the one that appointed Belo?
Buni is indeed a golden boy, APC can't move forward without him. He holds the yam and the knife now.

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Re: APC Dares INEC, Vows To Go Ahead With March 26 Convention by Mexyz(m): 9:26pm On Mar 11, 2022
fergie001:


The letter that was conveyed signalling Buni's transfer of power to Sani Bello is fake and backdated.

Section 82(1) of the new Electoral Act 2022:
Every registered political party shall give the Commission at least 21 days' notice of any Convention, Congress, Conference or meeting convened for the purpose of "merger" and electing members of its executive committees, other governing bodies or nominating candidates for any of the elective offices specified under this Act.

The Black Law's dictionary defines "shall" as
"As used in statutes, contracts, or the like, this word is generally imperative or mandatory

The Supreme Court also defined the word "shall" means.

When the word “shall” is used in a statute it connotes the intendment of the (legislator) that what is contained therein must be done or complied with. It does not give room for manoeuvre of some sort, or evasiveness. Whatever the provision requires to be done must be done, and it is not at all negotiable…” (Muhammadu Buhari v INEC, 2008) per Aloma Mukhtar, JSC (at the time)


The APC CECPC had written to INEC on Feb 02 to hold its Convention on Feb 26, 2022. Due to certain issues, the same APC CECPC wrote to the same INEC on 21st February, 2022:

“Notice for the conduct of zonal congresses”

“This notice supersedes our earlier notice for the National Convention referenced APC/NHDQ/INEC/019/22/14. This is predicated on the evaluation of our party Constitution.”

“In furtherance to Article 85 of the Electoral Act, 2010 (as amended) and compliance with Section 12(6) of our party Constitution, we hereby write to notify the Commission that our great party, the All Progressives Congress has scheduled to hold its Zonal Congresses on Saturday, March 26, 2022.

“Kindly arrange for your officials to monitor the exercise accordingly. While hoping to receive your co-operation, please accept the assurances of our highest esteem,” the notification letter read.
https://dailytrust.com/breaking-apc-postpones-convention

When the issue of adjustment is brought forward, we then x-ray the meaning of supercedes:

The Black Law's dictionary (11th ed.) 2019 define supersedes as: “[t]o annul, make void, or repeal by taking the place of.”

The letter of Feb 02 has therefore been voided. (That counters the adjustment argument)

Let us see S82(5):
Failure of a political party to notify the Commission as stated in Section 82(1) shall render the Convention, Congress, conference or meeting invalid.

NB: This Section 82(5) was not in the old Electoral Act 2010, that was why parties did it the way they liked.

In the old Electoral Act, there is no punishment when you don't inform INEC...in this Electoral Act, Section 82(5) has been added.


My submission..... indispensable85
Broken down for even a kid to understand, God bless you Sir

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Re: APC Dares INEC, Vows To Go Ahead With March 26 Convention by fergie001: 9:37pm On Mar 11, 2022
Mexyz:

Broken down for even a kid to understand, God bless you Sir
Bless you too...Sir
Re: APC Dares INEC, Vows To Go Ahead With March 26 Convention by Indispensable85(m): 9:54pm On Mar 11, 2022
Odidigboigbo:
I thought you guys are claiming that Buni didn't handover to Sani Belo but rather Buhari was the one that appointed Belo?
Buni is indeed a golden boy, APC can't move forward without him. He holds the yam and the knife now.

Even this my earlier position has changed. Fergie 001 just confirmed the letter is fake. I go quietly dey observe for now.
Re: APC Dares INEC, Vows To Go Ahead With March 26 Convention by garfield1: 9:55pm On Mar 11, 2022
fergie001:

Sani Bello's leadership is questionable.

The main problem the Party has is the fact that they do not have a Board of Trustees.

What is your problem with sani bello leadership? Is buni own unquestionable? From the evidence,inec are rejecting the invite to the NEC meeting and nothing more
Re: APC Dares INEC, Vows To Go Ahead With March 26 Convention by fergie001: 9:56pm On Mar 11, 2022
garfield1:
What is your problem with sani bello leadership? Is buni own unquestionable? From the evidence,inec are rejecting the invite to the NEC meeting and nothing more
I thought it had long been settled.

INEC said it is questionable.......Buni is a product of NEC, what is Sani Bello a product of?

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Re: APC Dares INEC, Vows To Go Ahead With March 26 Convention by garfield1: 9:57pm On Mar 11, 2022
ityP:



These are not technicalities. The electoral bill is now law. INEC has said you must give 21 days before you install new leadership. They can argue convention date, but that other clause still dey. APC dey prepare for failure

Elect not appoint
Re: APC Dares INEC, Vows To Go Ahead With March 26 Convention by garfield1: 9:58pm On Mar 11, 2022
fergie001:

I thought it had long been settled.

INEC said it is questionable.......Buni is a product of NEC, what is Sani Bello a product of?

It is not in the place of inec to question leadership but to monitor or observe conventions and congresses
Re: APC Dares INEC, Vows To Go Ahead With March 26 Convention by fergie001: 9:59pm On Mar 11, 2022
Indispensable85:


Even this my earlier position has changed. Fergie 001 just confirmed the letter is fake. I go quietly dey observe for now.
The Niger Gov when asked: said he was not in the know of any letter.

Again, in that letter......Buni was allegedly urging APC members to support Bello for the March 26 National Convention.

This is someone that told INEC that March 26 was for Zonal and never made mention of anything about National Convention.

It was either backdated or just fake.

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Re: APC Dares INEC, Vows To Go Ahead With March 26 Convention by Indispensable85(m): 10:02pm On Mar 11, 2022
fergie001:

The Niger Gov when asked: said he was not in the know of any letter.

Again, in that letter......Buni was allegedly urging APC members to support Bello for the March 26 National Convention.

This is someone that told INEC that March 26 was for Zonal and never made mention of anything about National Convention.

It was either backdated or just fake.

I never knew convention is this impossible to conduct. Lol ....... APC is teaching us something new. Very disgraceful!

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Re: APC Dares INEC, Vows To Go Ahead With March 26 Convention by garfield1: 10:04pm On Mar 11, 2022
fergie001:

The Niger Gov when asked: said he was not in the know of any letter.

Again, in that letter......Buni was allegedly urging APC members to support Bello for the March 26 National Convention.

This is someone that told INEC that March 26 was for Zonal and never made mention of anything about National Convention.

It was either backdated or just fake.

That is not enough to conclude after all buni supporters brought out the letter
Re: APC Dares INEC, Vows To Go Ahead With March 26 Convention by Peanut7806: 10:06pm On Mar 11, 2022
APC Dares INEC, Vows To Go Ahead With March 26 Convention The All Progressives Congress (APC) in Abuja has vowed to go ahead with the March 26 governorship convention in Borno State, despite the Election and Boundaries Commission’s (EBC) refusal to set the dates for the convention, which could only be held after the 2019 elections The acting chairman of the APC, Alhaji Lai Mohammed, told party supporters in Abuja on Saturday that the convention, initially scheduled for June 13, must take place before the general elections scheduled for February next year The party said it will not accept any other dates or venue other than that of the Borno State
Re: APC Dares INEC, Vows To Go Ahead With March 26 Convention by fergie001: 10:12pm On Mar 11, 2022
garfield1:


It is not in the place of inec to question leadership but to monitor or observe conventions and congresses
After monitoring whoemever wins....his name is submitted then INEC begins to deal with that person. When that person is unavailable will INEC not seek clarification?

When correspondences are passed, the Chairman and/or Secretary are those who are in communication with INEC.

Anybody with a letter-headed paper can write to INEC telling them he is whatever, do you expect INEC to just start communicating with the person?

If Buni was travelling and indeed officially handed over to Bello, if he submits same...I don't think INEC will reject it. But there was nothing to back Bello's notion as Ag Chairman.

No letter from any meeting indicating change of baton, no notice of meeting, no minutes, no Secretary.

What about the Secretary, did he travel as well? In what meeting was he removed or did he resign?

In the case of Oshiomhole & Giadom, there was a Court order.

So, INEC is generally seeking clarification. The new Electoral Act, Section 83(2).

S83(1): The Commission shall keep records of the activities of all the registered political parties.

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Re: APC Dares INEC, Vows To Go Ahead With March 26 Convention by fergie001: 10:14pm On Mar 11, 2022
garfield1:


That is not enough to conclude after all buni supporters brought out the letter
I am not concluding....it might even be Buni who is wrong. I am just speaking about the contents of the letter.
Re: APC Dares INEC, Vows To Go Ahead With March 26 Convention by lagosrd: 10:23pm On Mar 11, 2022
Then let them wait for inec's big stick. If they cross the red line, INEC will ommit their candidate's name and nothing will happen.

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Re: APC Dares INEC, Vows To Go Ahead With March 26 Convention by garfield1: 11:01pm On Mar 11, 2022
fergie001:

After monitoring whoemever wins....his name is submitted then INEC begins to deal with that person. When that person is unavailable will INEC not seek clarification?

When correspondences are passed, the Chairman and/or Secretary are those who are in communication with INEC.

Anybody with a letter-headed paper can write to INEC telling them he is whatever, do you expect INEC to just start communicating with the person?

If Buni was travelling and indeed officially handed over to Bello, if he submits same...I don't think INEC will reject it. But there was nothing to back Bello's notion as Ag Chairman.

No letter from any meeting indicating change of baton, no notice of meeting, no minutes, no Secretary.

What about the Secretary, did he travel as well? In what meeting was he removed or did he resign?

In the case of Oshiomhole & Giadom, there was a Court order.

So, INEC is generally seeking clarification. The new Electoral Act, Section 83(2).

S83(1): The Commission shall keep records of the activities of all the registered political parties.


Simple,inec will get the clarifications that buni and akpanudo are no more in office and that 26 is sacrosanct
Re: APC Dares INEC, Vows To Go Ahead With March 26 Convention by fergie001: 11:09pm On Mar 11, 2022
garfield1:


Simple,inec will get the clarifications that buni and akpanudo are no more in office and that 26 is sacrosanct
Let's cross our fingers.....
Re: APC Dares INEC, Vows To Go Ahead With March 26 Convention by Odidigboigbo(m): 11:36pm On Mar 11, 2022
Indispensable85:


Even this my earlier position has changed. Fergie 001 just confirmed the letter is fake. I go quietly dey observe for now.
In what capacity would Sani Bello going to conduct the convention?

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Re: APC Dares INEC, Vows To Go Ahead With March 26 Convention by LordviccoDaGuru(m): 11:41pm On Mar 11, 2022
Gbam
Re: APC Dares INEC, Vows To Go Ahead With March 26 Convention by garfield1: 11:48pm On Mar 11, 2022
fergie001:

Let's cross our fingers.....


Leets hope they ddo the convention quickly and end all these drama
Re: APC Dares INEC, Vows To Go Ahead With March 26 Convention by barinedan(m): 12:09am On Mar 12, 2022
APC just dey behave like person wey dem dey strangle, na so e go dey shake leg shake hand shake body until him finally shut down
Re: APC Dares INEC, Vows To Go Ahead With March 26 Convention by Nobody: 12:21am On Mar 12, 2022
How I wish inec can suspend or expel them. They are a political nuisance
Re: APC Dares INEC, Vows To Go Ahead With March 26 Convention by Lantarra: 12:38am On Mar 12, 2022
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Re: APC Dares INEC, Vows To Go Ahead With March 26 Convention by Strongmighty: 2:26am On Mar 12, 2022
FreeStuffsNG:
INEC may readjust its earlier advice on the account of this clarification by APC.
Besides, there is a letter of handover by HE Buni to the Acting Chairman and inec is not a court of law. I remember those early days of the formation of APC and how INEC and APC were doing cat and mouse wink

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Re: APC Dares INEC, Vows To Go Ahead With March 26 Convention by jacoik(m): 4:45am On Mar 12, 2022
ogododo:


U suppose dey for one area near Ramat Park for Benin round about.
lolxxxxx hahahaha. If he dey that area wetin go happen to him, abi his tinubu go come there?
Re: APC Dares INEC, Vows To Go Ahead With March 26 Convention by vicdom(m): 5:07am On Mar 12, 2022
fergie001:


The letter that was conveyed signalling Buni's transfer of power to Sani Bello is fake and backdated.

Section 82(1) of the new Electoral Act 2022:
Every registered political party shall give the Commission at least 21 days' notice of any Convention, Congress, Conference or meeting convened for the purpose of "merger" and electing members of its executive committees, other governing bodies or nominating candidates for any of the elective offices specified under this Act.

The Black Law's dictionary defines "shall" as
"As used in statutes, contracts, or the like, this word is generally imperative or mandatory

The Supreme Court also defined the word "shall" means.

When the word “shall” is used in a statute it connotes the intendment of the (legislator) that what is contained therein must be done or complied with. It does not give room for manoeuvre of some sort, or evasiveness. Whatever the provision requires to be done must be done, and it is not at all negotiable…” (Muhammadu Buhari v INEC, 2008) per Aloma Mukhtar, JSC (at the time)


The APC CECPC had written to INEC on Feb 02 to hold its Convention on Feb 26, 2022. Due to certain issues, the same APC CECPC wrote to the same INEC on 21st February, 2022:

“Notice for the conduct of zonal congresses”

“This notice supersedes our earlier notice for the National Convention referenced APC/NHDQ/INEC/019/22/14. This is predicated on the evaluation of our party Constitution.”

“In furtherance to Article 85 of the Electoral Act, 2010 (as amended) and compliance with Section 12(6) of our party Constitution, we hereby write to notify the Commission that our great party, the All Progressives Congress has scheduled to hold its Zonal Congresses on Saturday, March 26, 2022.

“Kindly arrange for your officials to monitor the exercise accordingly. While hoping to receive your co-operation, please accept the assurances of our highest esteem,” the notification letter read.
https://dailytrust.com/breaking-apc-postpones-convention

When the issue of adjustment is brought forward, we then x-ray the meaning of supercedes:

The Black Law's dictionary (11th ed.) 2019 define supersedes as: “[t]o annul, make void, or repeal by taking the place of.”

The letter of Feb 02 has therefore been voided. (That counters the adjustment argument)

Let us see S82(5):
Failure of a political party to notify the Commission as stated in Section 82(1) shall render the Convention, Congress, conference or meeting invalid.

NB: This Section 82(5) was not in the old Electoral Act 2010, that was why parties did it the way they liked.

In the old Electoral Act, there is no punishment when you don't inform INEC...in this Electoral Act, Section 82(5) has been added.


My submission..... indispensable85
Gbam!! Boss, you are well rooted. God bless you for this. I don't know why people can't discern simply English oooo. The law is very clear but people will just choose to look the other way.

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Re: APC Dares INEC, Vows To Go Ahead With March 26 Convention by Truthisunique2: 6:20am On Mar 12, 2022
garfield1:



Bello will simply go ahead with the zonal congress and fix a new date for the main convention and NEC meet
Bello can not preside over any activity which part of it don't you understand

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