Muslims have said many false things about Paul as summarized below:

advocatejare:
Muslims have said many false things about Paul as summarized below:

Islamic Paradox

How can Paul corrupt any scripture if Qur'an 10:94 says ask those who have been reading the scriptures before you!

How can Paul corrupt any Gospel if Qur'an 5:47 says And let the people of the scripture judge by what Allah has revealed therein

Paul was already dead at the time of Muhammad.

So how can Paul change something that clearly wasn't corrupted as at the time of Muhammad?

If Allah revealed the Torah and Gospel (Bible) Qur'an 3;3 and if they happened to be corrupted, then either Allah lied in Qur'an 18:17 and 6:115 when saying there is no changer of his word or He needed three chances to get it right! (TORAH (cancelled), GOSPEL (Cancelled), QUR'AN).

But Christians too believe Paul inserted his own opinions in your Bible

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AntiChristian:




But Christians too believe Paul inserted his own opinions in your Bible

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Paul wrote letters to the churches and some of those letters were added to the New Testament because they are edifying.

Paul repeatedly said it was his own opinions when he was making his own opinions

And those letter had been written and included in the New Testament hundreds of years before muhammad was born and they were in existence at the time of muhammad but you muhammad wannabes want us to believe that Paul lived after muhammad and changed the Bible, we are here to tell you that you are liars!

advocatejare:

Paul wrote letters to the churches and some of those letters were added to the New Testament because they are edifying.

Paul repeatedly said it was his own opinions when he was making his own opinions

And those letter had been written and included in the New Testament hundreds of years before muhammad was born and they were in existence at the time of muhammad but you muhammad wannabes want us to believe that Paul lived after muhammad and changed the Bible, we are here to tell you that you are liars!

Are those words of Paul Gospel too?

The verses of the Holy Qur’an state that the original Gospel (Injeel) from Allah, may He be exalted, was sent down to His Messenger ‘Eesaa (Jesus) (peace be upon him).

Allah, may He be exalted, says (interpretation of the meaning):
“And We sent, following in their footsteps, Jesus, the son of Mary, confirming that which came before him in the Torah; and We gave him the Gospel, in which was guidance and light and confirming that which preceded it of the Torah as guidance and instruction for the righteous”
[al-Maa’idah 5:46]

“Then We sent following their footsteps Our messengers and followed [them] with Jesus, the son of Mary, and gave him the Gospel. And We placed in the hearts of those who followed him compassion and mercy and monasticism, which they innovated; We did not prescribe it for them except [that they did so] seeking the approval of Allah . But they did not observe it with due observance. So We gave the ones who believed among them their reward, but many of them are defiantly disobedient”
[al-Hadeed 57:27]

The Injeel was revealed to Jesus and is not Paul's letters to people/congregations.
The Injeel was revealed to Jesus, it's not Luke's Letter to Theophilus.

Many have undertaken to draw up an account of the things that have been fulfilled[a] among us, just as they were handed down to us by those who from the first were eyewitnesses and servants of the word. With this in mind, since I myself have carefully investigated everything from the beginning, I too decided to write an orderly account for you, most excellent Theophilus, so that you may know the certainty of the things you have been taught. Luke 1-1:4

AntiChristian:


Are those words of Paul Gospel too?

The gospel is the first 4 books of the New Testament and not Paul’s letters or other letters by other apostles of Christ

The verses of the Holy Qur’an state that the original Gospel (Injeel) from Allah, may He be exalted, was sent down to His Messenger ‘Eesaa (Jesus) (peace be upon him).

Allah, may He be exalted, says (interpretation of the meaning):
“And We sent, following in their footsteps, Jesus, the son of Mary, confirming that which came before him in the Torah; and We gave him the Gospel, in which was guidance and light and confirming that which preceded it of the Torah as guidance and instruction for the righteous”
[al-Maa’idah 5:46]

“Then We sent following their footsteps Our messengers and followed [them] with Jesus, the son of Mary, and gave him the Gospel. And We placed in the hearts of those who followed him compassion and mercy and monasticism, which they innovated; We did not prescribe it for them except [that they did so] seeking the approval of Allah . But they did not observe it with due observance. So We gave the ones who believed among them their reward, but many of them are defiantly disobedient”
[al-Hadeed 57:27]

The Injeel was revealed to Jesus and is not Paul's letters to people/congregations.
The Injeel was revealed to Jesus, it's not Luke's Letter to Theophilus.

Many have undertaken to draw up an account of the things that have been fulfilled[a] among us, just as they were handed down to us by those who from the first were eyewitnesses and servants of the word. With this in mind, since I myself have carefully investigated everything from the beginning, I too decided to write an orderly account for you, most excellent Theophilus, so that you may know the certainty of the things you have been taught. Luke 1-1:4

Paul never claimed to have written the gospel and Christians never made such a claim too, thr New Testament is not the same as the gospel. The gospel is just part of the New Testament.

Jesus was not given any book, the gospel means good news. The good news he preached that he commanded his followers to tell the whole world, his followers just put them into writing.


The concept of the gospel being book given to Jesus was initiated by the illiterate false prophet muhammad who also lied that he was given the Quran as a book but we knew that the standard Quran was not even compiled as a book until 20 years after he had died and rotten in the grave.

Going by that, since it was Uthman that gave you the standardized Quran, then the Quran was given to uthman and not to muhammad, using your own logic!

advocatejare:

The gospel is the first 4 books of the New Testament and not Paul’s letters or other letters by other apostles of Christ

The Gospel writers the ones who re wrote the Gospel revealed by Allah with their own hands decades after the death of Jesus. The 4 canonical gospel book are just Biography of Jesus by non eye witnesses or unknown individuals and not revealed Gospel.

It is just like you saying Hadith is Quran how possible. When Jesus was preaching the Gospel was he telling them his biography or preaching the Gospel with his disciples..

[b]Luke 1
1 SINCE [[a]as is well known] many have undertaken to put in order and draw up a [thorough] narrative of the surely established deeds which have been accomplished and fulfilled [c] in and among us,

2 Exactly as they were handed down to us by those who from the [[d]official] beginning [of Jesus' ministry] were eyewitnesses and ministers of the Word [that is, of [e]the doctrine concerning the attainment through Christ of salvation in the kingdom of God],

[b]3 It seemed good and desirable to me, [and so I have determined] also after [f]having searched out diligently and followed all things closely and traced accurately the course from the highest to the minutest detail from the very first, to write an orderly account for you, most excellent Theophilus,


Allah SWT said:

"So woe to those who write the scripture with their own hands, then say, This is from Allah, in order to exchange it for a small price. Woe to them for what their hands have written and woe to them for what they earn."
(QS. Al-Baqara 2: Verse 79)

advocatejare:

Paul never claimed to have written the gospel and Christians never made such a claim too, thr New Testament is not the same as the gospel. The gospel is just part of the New Testament.

Jesus was not given any book, the gospel means good news. The good news he preached that he commanded his followers to tell the whole world, his followers just put them into writing.


The concept of the gospel being book given to Jesus was initiated by the illiterate false prophet muhammad who also lied that he was given the Quran as a book but we knew that the standard Quran was not even compiled as a book until 20 years after he had died and rotten in the grave.

Going by that, since it was Uthman that gave you the standardized Quran, then the Quran was given to uthman and not to muhammad, using your own logic!

[/quote] He claimed to have met God on his way to Damascus and that he was inspired to write by the holy spirit.

Whereas the Gospel wan only revealed to Jesus, how did the words of Paul found its way to the Bible since Gospel was only revealed to Jesus.


Infact Paul didn't write Biography of Jesus he didn't meet him but preaching his own doctrine his own Gospel.


Allah SWT said:

"So woe to those who write the scripture with their own hands, then say, This is from Allah, in order to exchange it for a small price. Woe to them for what their hands have written and woe to them for what they earn."
(QS. Al-Baqara 2: Verse 79)

haekymbahd:
The Gospel writers the ones who re wrote the Gospel revealed by Allah with their own hands decades after the death of Jesus. The 4 canonical gospel book are just Biography of Jesus by non eye witnesses or unknown individuals and not revealed Gospel.

It is just like you saying Hadith is Quran how possible. When Jesus was preaching the Gospel was he telling them his biography or preaching the Gospel with his disciples..

[b]Luke 1
1 SINCE [[a]as is well known] many have undertaken to put in order and draw up a [thorough] narrative of the surely established deeds which have been accomplished and fulfilled [c] in and among us,

2 Exactly as they were handed down to us by those who from the [[d]official] beginning [of Jesus' ministry] were eyewitnesses and ministers of the Word [that is, of [e]the doctrine concerning the attainment through Christ of salvation in the kingdom of God],

[b]3 It seemed good and desirable to me, [and so I have determined] also after [f]having searched out diligently and followed all things closely and traced accurately the course from the highest to the minutest detail from the very first, to write an orderly account for you, most excellent Theophilus,


Allah SWT said:

"So woe to those who write the scripture with their own hands, then say, This is from Allah, in order to exchange it for a small price. Woe to them for what their hands have written and woe to them for what they earn."
(QS. Al-Baqara 2: Verse 79)


He claimed to have met God on his way to Damascus and that he was inspired to write by the holy spirit.

Whereas the Gospel wan only revealed to Jesus, how did the words of Paul found its way to the Bible since Gospel was only revealed to Jesus.


Infact Paul didn't write Biography of Jesus he didn't meet him but preaching his own doctrine his own Gospel.


Allah SWT said:

"So woe to those who write the scripture with their own hands, then say, This is from Allah, in order to exchange it for a small price. Woe to them for what their hands have written and woe to them for what they earn."
(QS. Al-Baqara 2: Verse 79)

Paul never claimed to have written the gospel. The gospel is not a book:


Jesus was not given any book, the gospel means good news. The good news he preached that he commanded his followers to tell the whole world, his followers just put them into writing.



The concept of the gospel being book given to Jesus was initiated by the illiterate false prophet muhammad who also lied that he was given the Quran as a book but we knew that the standard Quran was not even compiled as a book until 20 years after he had died and rotten in the grave.

Going by that, since it was Uthman that gave you the standardized Quran, then the Quran was given to uthman and not to muhammad, using your own logic!



As for those who wrote the scriptures with their hands and claimed it was from God. Those are your rashidun caliphate and the Islamic scribes who falsify everything muhammad claimed to have received, had them re-written and claimed that it was from Allah. They included Muhammad himself who plagiarized and falsify the scriptures, Abu Bakr, Umar (who shared revelation skill with Allah), Uthman and Zayd


"...So 'Uthman sent a message to Hafsa saying, "Send us the manuscripts of the Qur'an so that we may compile the Qur'anic materials in perfect copies and return the manuscripts to you." Hafsa sent it to 'Uthman. 'Uthman then ordered Zaid bin Thabit, 'Abdullah bin AzZubair, Said bin Al-As and 'AbdurRahman bin Harith bin Hisham to rewrite the manuscripts in perfect copies."... Sahih Bukhari 4987

advocatejare:

The gospel is the first 4 books of the New Testament and not Paul’s letters or other letters by other apostles of Christ

The definition of Injeel is the revelation to Jesus not what Matthew, Mark, Luke and John claimed to have written!

Paul never claimed to have written the gospel and Christians never made such a claim too, thr New Testament is not the same as the gospel. The gospel is just part of the New Testament.

Jesus was not given any book, the gospel means good news. The good news he preached that he commanded his followers to tell the whole world, his followers just put them into writing.


The concept of the gospel being book given to Jesus was initiated by the illiterate false prophet muhammad who also lied that he was given the Quran as a book but we knew that the standard Quran was not even compiled as a book until 20 years after he had died and rotten in the grave.

Going by that, since it was Uthman that gave you the standardized Quran, then the Quran was given to uthman and not to muhammad, using your own logic!

Who said Jesus was given a written Book in Islam? Stop telling lies! I can have a Book in my head.

Where does Paul come in to the Gospel? He never met Jesus. Jesus never appointed him. There is no one who can testify for him among any of the disciples! So who is Paul. And stay on course! Stop diverting to Standardization of the Qur'an cos you don't even know who standardised your Bible over the last 4000 years!

advocatejare:

Paul never claimed to have written the gospel. The gospel is not a book:


Jesus was not given any book, the gospel means good news. The good news he preached that he commanded his followers to tell the whole world, his followers just put them into writing.



The concept of the gospel being book given to Jesus was initiated by the illiterate false prophet muhammad who also lied that he was given the Quran as a book but we knew that the standard Quran was not even compiled as a book until 20 years after he had died and rotten in the grave.

Going by that, since it was Uthman that gave you the standardized Quran, then the Quran was given to uthman and not to muhammad, using your own logic!



As for those who wrote the scriptures with their hands and claimed it was from God. Those are your rashidun caliphate and the Islamic scribes who falsify everything muhammad claimed to have received, had them re-written and claimed that it was from Allah. They included Muhammad himself who plagiarized and falsify the scriptures, Abu Bakr, Umar (who shared revelation skill with Allah), Uthman and Zayd


"...So 'Uthman sent a message to Hafsa saying, "Send us the manuscripts of the Qur'an so that we may compile the Qur'anic materials in perfect copies and return the manuscripts to you." Hafsa sent it to 'Uthman. 'Uthman then ordered Zaid bin Thabit, 'Abdullah bin AzZubair, Said bin Al-As and 'AbdurRahman bin Harith bin Hisham to rewrite the manuscripts in perfect copies."... Sahih Bukhari 4987

Jesus preached the Gospel while alive right before he was nailed to the cross according to the bible.

Who were those who recorded all Jesus sayings right from childhood till the day he was raised up what is the chain of narration the gospel of Jesus from the bible writers. Was anyone writing anything down.

Who were those rocording or writing it down before the first Canonical gospel which was written roughly 70-80 years after Christ while the last was written over 100yrs after Christ.

Which means there has to be a manuscript/template somewhere which the Gospel writers copied from where can we find it..

Who were the Gospel writers were they Hebrew or disciples of Jesus while alive?

Who were the eye witnesses and their names?

How did canonical and non canonical Gospel came about?

Who witnessed the conversation between Jesus and Satan among the eye witnesses?


Allah SWT said:

"So woe to those who write the scripture with their own hands, then say, This is from Allah, in order to exchange it for a small price. Woe to them for what their hands have written and woe to them for what they earn."
(QS. Al-Baqara 2: Verse 79)

So a book can be unwritten? Nairaland come and see an exhibition in first class dimwittedness!

Unwritten Book!!?!? If it is unwritten then it is not a book and yet allah says that he gave a book to Jesus then the same allah goes ahead to refer to the followers of Jesus as People of the Book. What book? A book that is yet to be written?!?

I love watching these followers of the illiterate prophet embarrass themselves!


He Jesus said, "Lo, I am God's servant; God has given me the Book, and made me a Prophet." Surah 19:30

AntiChristian:
The definition of Injeel is the revelation to Jesus not what Matthew, Mark, Luke and John claimed to have written!

Who said Jesus was given a written Book in Islam? Stop telling lies! I can have a Book in my head.

Where does Paul come in to the Gospel? He never met Jesus. Jesus never appointed him. There is no one who can testify for him among any of the disciples! So who is Paul. And stay on course! Stop diverting to Standardization of the Qur'an cos you don't even know who standardised your Bible over the last 4000 years!

AllahEatsShit:
So a book can be unwritten? Nairaland come and see an exhibition in first class dimwittedness!

Unwritten Book!!?!? If it is unwritten then it is not a book and yet allah says that he gave a book to Jesus then the same allah goes ahead to refer to the followers of Jesus as People of the Book. What book? A book that is yet to be written?!?

I love watching these followers of the illiterate prophet embarrass themselves!

He Jesus said, "Lo, I am God's servant; God has given me the Book, and made me a Prophet." Surah 19:30

Revelations can be written or unwritten!

Shaykh Ahmad Deedat (may Allah have mercy on him) said:
We believe sincerely that everything that ‘Isa (peace be upon him) said was revelation from Allah, and that it was the Gospel and glad tidings for the Children of Israel. But throughout his life, ‘Isa did not write a single word, and he did not order anyone to write anything. Hal al-Kitab al-Muqaddas Kalimat Allah (Is the Bible God’s Word?).

But it seems that the Messiah (peace be upon him) knew how to read and write. This may be understood from the words of Allah (interpretation of the meaning):

“And He (Allah) will teach him [‘Isa] the Book and Al-Hikmah (i.e. the sunnah, the faultless speech of the Prophets, wisdom), (and) the Tawrat and the Injil.” [Al ‘Imran 3:48]

Ibn Kathir (may Allah have mercy on him) said:

It seems that what is meant by Book here is writing. Tafsir al-Quran il-‘Azeem.

But we do not have any evidence that the revelation was written down at the time of ‘Isa (peace be upon him). The fact that the Gospel is called “a Book” in the Holy Quran does not indicate that it was written down on pages at the time it was revealed. The fact that it is called a Book only refers to that which is with Allah in al-Lawh al-Mahfooz (the Preserved Tablet), or that it was something that could be written. This also applies to the Holy Quran, as Allah calls it a Book. Rather it was transmitted verbally as well as being written down randomly on skins and parchments. In fact it was not a compiled Book until the time of Abu Bakr al-Siddeeq (may Allah be pleased with him). Indeed, Allah says (interpretation of the meaning):

“And even if We had sent down unto you (O Muhammad (peace and blessings of Allah be upon him)) a message written on paper so that they could touch it with their hands, the disbelievers would have said: ‘This is nothing but obvious magic!’” [6:7]

al-Tahir ibn ‘Ashoor said in his commentary on Surat Maryam:: 30:

The Scripture refers to the law which is usually written lest it be subject to change. The word Scripture is applied to the Law of ‘Isa (peace be upon him) just as it is applied to the Quran. Al-Tahreer wa’l-Tanweer.

Similarly the Christians do not believe that there is a book that was written by the Messiah or one of his disciples during his lifetime that was lost after that.

You are getting more ignorant and arrogant!

If a revelation is not written down then it doesn't exist! So you're condemning Surah 19:30 as allah's lies!

Ahmed Deedat is NOT a scholar! He is not like Al Tabari or Ibn Kathir, Qurtubi, Jalalayn etc.

Secondly, are you saying that the koran was lying when it said that Jesus was born with a book called Injeel like all those miracle babies which were born with koran?

He [Jesus] said, "Lo, I am God's servant; God has given me the Book, and made me a Prophet." Surah 19:30

Thirdly, non of the scholars you mentioned said definitely or categorically that Jesus did not have any book! They're were simply disputing about "when" he received the book, not whether or not it exists.

AntiChristian:

Revelations can be written or unwritten!

Shaykh Ahmad Deedat (may Allah have mercy on him) said:
We believe sincerely that everything that ‘Isa (peace be upon him) said was revelation from Allah, and that it was the Gospel and glad tidings for the Children of Israel. But throughout his life, ‘Isa did not write a single word, and he did not order anyone to write anything. Hal al-Kitab al-Muqaddas Kalimat Allah (Is the Bible God’s Word?).

But it seems that the Messiah (peace be upon him) knew how to read and write. This may be understood from the words of Allah (interpretation of the meaning):

“And He (Allah) will teach him [‘Isa] the Book and Al-Hikmah (i.e. the sunnah, the faultless speech of the Prophets, wisdom), (and) the Tawrat and the Injil.” [Al ‘Imran 3:48]

Ibn Kathir (may Allah have mercy on him) said:

It seems that what is meant by Book here is writing. Tafsir al-Quran il-‘Azeem.

But we do not have any evidence that the revelation was written down at the time of ‘Isa (peace be upon him). The fact that the Gospel is called “a Book” in the Holy Quran does not indicate that it was written down on pages at the time it was revealed. The fact that it is called a Book only refers to that which is with Allah in al-Lawh al-Mahfooz (the Preserved Tablet), or that it was something that could be written. This also applies to the Holy Quran, as Allah calls it a Book. Rather it was transmitted verbally as well as being written down randomly on skins and parchments. In fact it was not a compiled Book until the time of Abu Bakr al-Siddeeq (may Allah be pleased with him). Indeed, Allah says (interpretation of the meaning):

“And even if We had sent down unto you (O Muhammad (peace and blessings of Allah be upon him)) a message written on paper so that they could touch it with their hands, the disbelievers would have said: ‘This is nothing but obvious magic!’” [6:7]

al-Tahir ibn ‘Ashoor said in his commentary on Surat Maryam:: 30:

The Scripture refers to the law which is usually written lest it be subject to change. The word Scripture is applied to the Law of ‘Isa (peace be upon him) just as it is applied to the Quran. Al-Tahreer wa’l-Tanweer.

Similarly the Christians do not believe that there is a book that was written by the Messiah or one of his disciples during his lifetime that was lost after that.

You are getting more ignorant and arrogant!

haekymbahd:
Jesus preached the Gospel while alive right before he was nailed to the cross according to the bible.

Who were those who recorded all Jesus sayings right from childhood till the day he was raised up what is the chain of narration the gospel of Jesus from the bible writers. Was anyone writing anything down.

Who were those rocording or writing it down before the first Canonical gospel which was written roughly 70-80 years after Christ while the last was written over 100yrs after Christ.

Which means there has to be a manuscript/template somewhere which the Gospel writers copied from where can we find it..

Who were the Gospel writers were they Hebrew or disciples of Jesus while alive?

Who were the eye witnesses and their names?

How did canonical and non canonical Gospel came about?

Who witnessed the conversation between Jesus and Satan among the eye witnesses?


Allah SWT said:

"So woe to those who write the scripture with their own hands, then say, This is from Allah, in order to exchange it for a small price. Woe to them for what their hands have written and woe to them for what they earn."
(QS. Al-Baqara 2: Verse 79)

Who was there with Muhammad in the cave when jinn Jibreel pinned him down? Who was Muhammad’s witness?


Was Muhammad there when God created heaven and earth so how come he put it in the Quran?


Was Muhammad alive when Jesus lived, so how come he put Jesus’ stories in his fabricated Quran?


Woe to all the Muslims who wrote the Quran with their hands and claimed that it was revealed by God when we knew that the Quran is a book that contains plagiarized stories from the scriptures, fables of the Arabs, words of Muhammad, suggestions of Umar, suggestions of a blind man that corrected Allah on a verse of the Quran, insults and curses Muhammad rained on those who exposed him, history of the Jews. Etc