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Re: War In Ukraine: 'America Is Learning The Art Of Humility' by pacespot(m): 1:22pm On Mar 20, 2022 |
USA will not risk Los Angeles, New York and many other beautiful cities in the country for Ukraine. All these cities are within the range of Russian missiles. One thing I can surmise from this geopolitical tension is that, USA does not really want to take on China. Do you know that China produces almost everything used by US citizens down to the furnitures inside their sitting rooms. The truth is that China and USA need each other to maintain the current world order. But USA is only concerned about how things are going and what China will become once it becomes more powerful, because the current international trade arrangements benefit China more to grow its GDP ahead of USA. China can still grow up to four times the value of its current GDP, because there are still many millions of poor Chinese in the rural areas that need to be moved out of poverty. But in case of USA, the economy seems to have reached the peak and is now starting to fade. The concern about China from the USA point of view is that, the former might start to display a dictatorial instinct once it has achieved unparalleled economic successes over the latter and European Union combined. This is why USA need other regions of the world like Africa to grow in order to counterbalance China and make the prosperities of human civilization evenly spread across the world. USA needs to take the lead investing in Africa to have any chance of countering China's rise, but it doesn't seem to trust Black people as much as it trusts Russians, even though there is a war in Ukraine, USA is still blindfolded by race. China is even investing more in Africa than the USA, because it knows the future. But the funny thing is, the Russia wants to help China to build a new world order. 1 Like |
Re: War In Ukraine: 'America Is Learning The Art Of Humility' by caye(m): 1:26pm On Mar 20, 2022 |
CoronaVirusPro:Another idiotic white man spotted on an African forum. |
Re: War In Ukraine: 'America Is Learning The Art Of Humility' by goodheart01: 1:48pm On Mar 20, 2022 |
Great0ne1: I’m not ready to watch any of your YouTube gimmicks. Stop being deluded simple! |
Re: War In Ukraine: 'America Is Learning The Art Of Humility' by dadexcel: 1:49pm On Mar 20, 2022 |
Tmberwolf1: Am still at a lost as per what the unprovoked and stupid war of choice by an arrogant and power drunk tyrant called Putin's has got to do with the caption of this article......every sane human that has human blood running in his or her systems should forget about regional or whatever international politics and condemn in string terms the carnage Putin is causing in Ukraine for no justifiable reason. The guy is a beast and a common tug like he is being tagged now and that should be at the top burner of any discussion on international politics and power play ....not a stylish and indirect praise of a blood sucking monster called Putin. |
Re: War In Ukraine: 'America Is Learning The Art Of Humility' by dadexcel: 1:55pm On Mar 20, 2022 |
GloriousGbola: My brother God bless you for this response . The truth really is love or hate US , it is has the strongest and most efficient military on earth. No amount of noise by Putin and his likes can change that ...Biden is only applying cautiin because of he economic and human impact of a third world war . You do not go to open confrontation with a complete and man ....you applybskill and wisdom to achieve your result...Biden has practically collapsed Russian economy as we speak. |
Re: War In Ukraine: 'America Is Learning The Art Of Humility' by yongg: 2:02pm On Mar 20, 2022 |
Thisis2raw: I feel it's all a game to them. What if this is a way to keep Russia and China divided in attention to the invasions they want to carry out, depleting some resource while doing that before actually engaging them squarely or alliedly, lols Or even double every every as a distraction for something else which would enjoy the benefit of being paid less attention to |
Re: War In Ukraine: 'America Is Learning The Art Of Humility' by loswhite(m): 2:03pm On Mar 20, 2022 |
ken6488:Is that what you tell yourself? I am sure you will support China invading Taiwan all in the name of security interests. NATO is just a pretext for Putin's invasion. Ukraine has agreed to be neutral but your Putin is insisting that Ukraine must accept that Crimea and those eastern part is recognized as part of Russia. It is painful that because of your hate for the west you guys will support a country annexing a part of another country. The question is if it was your country will you accept it? |
Re: War In Ukraine: 'America Is Learning The Art Of Humility' by Great0ne1: 2:07pm On Mar 20, 2022 |
quickly:And they left there weapons in the hands of alleged terrorists ? The talibans were able to repel the American forces. Mind you, the acting minister of interior Sirajuddin Haqqani has a $10 million bounty by us government, and you think they completed there mission ? Russia doesn't need America GPS. They have GLONASS (Global Navigation Satellite System) Germany and USA have been doing there best at the moment, under the umbrella of nato, but there best can't stop Russia. Am still waiting for Russia trops withdrawal. Meanwhile America and nato are getting some serious ass kicking under the guise of volunteer fighters. Germany is still buying Russia gas, because there is no option for them. There is also non in sight |
Re: War In Ukraine: 'America Is Learning The Art Of Humility' by ken6488(m): 2:08pm On Mar 20, 2022 |
loswhite:if USA try what they did in Ukraine on tawain China will invade tawain |
Re: War In Ukraine: 'America Is Learning The Art Of Humility' by loswhite(m): 2:20pm On Mar 20, 2022 |
ken6488:What did they do in Ukraine? Are you saying that Ukrainians don't want to be part of EU? Are you saying that Ukrainians wants a dictatorship where someone rules for 20 years? I'm sure you are tired of less than 8 years of Buhari...lol. |
Re: War In Ukraine: 'America Is Learning The Art Of Humility' by frankson1(m): 2:28pm On Mar 20, 2022 |
Jeromejnr: Putin says he wants to meet Zelensky in person. The boy should go and talk his nonsense with Putin directly. |
Re: War In Ukraine: 'America Is Learning The Art Of Humility' by quickly: 2:29pm On Mar 20, 2022 |
Great0ne1: They might be a lot of weapons but nothing the US is losing sleep over. They can make a billion of those weaponry in no time. Most of those weaponry have tagging on them. All the have to do is send drone to take them out easy. Since their new Commander in chief ordered immediate evacuation they followed. US is not Nigeria they have manufacturing capability and will overdo. Where were the talibans since 2001 when the US took over that country easily?. They occupied it for 21 years and decided to leave instantly . Main Objective was accomplished in 2011. US was looking for Osama If Afghanistan like let them behead all their citizen now nobody go interfer |
Re: War In Ukraine: 'America Is Learning The Art Of Humility' by Awesometouch1: 2:33pm On Mar 20, 2022 |
Dalil8:Powerless?? Wrong word. They just did things differently in a way that suggests digging a grave for the Russians or Putin's administration. The best way for the world. |
Re: War In Ukraine: 'America Is Learning The Art Of Humility' by BluntTheApostle(m): 2:33pm On Mar 20, 2022 |
quickly: The Taliban since 2001? The same Taliban that regrouped in 2003, and had many terrorities under their control till 2007? |
Re: War In Ukraine: 'America Is Learning The Art Of Humility' by BluntTheApostle(m): 2:36pm On Mar 20, 2022 |
goodheart01: Do you know the meaning of full conventional war Ukraine will not last a day if it went to a full conventional war with Russia. |
Re: War In Ukraine: 'America Is Learning The Art Of Humility' by Great0ne1: 2:37pm On Mar 20, 2022 |
quickly:The point is, they are already engaging the russians(whether they admit it or not) and they are not achieving there goal, while Russia is making progress(though slowed down by America involvement). Will russia achieve there goal ? You can bet your ass they will %100. Where were the talibans since 2001 you ask ? Well they were up against the powerful American forces. They had to take there time and regroup for a bigger and successful attack. Guess what ? It worked and they succeeded in driving them away, without achieving all there goals(there puppet government was chased out of power). |
Re: War In Ukraine: 'America Is Learning The Art Of Humility' by anoda(m): 2:39pm On Mar 20, 2022 |
MangekyoAlt:USA own na to park destroyers, nuclear subs and Aircraft carriers near country whe dey make noise, weda parking lot don finish for black sea i nor know. |
Re: War In Ukraine: 'America Is Learning The Art Of Humility' by quickly: 2:41pm On Mar 20, 2022 |
BluntTheApostle: The same Taliban surrendered within days of US invasion . Remember George bush started it and Biden ended, If u don’t understand political differences between Republicans and Democrats. Political parties can be petty even PDP and APC that have no ideological differences can be petty just to score a point. It was a war started by Republicans and ended by Democrats for political points The US got tired because it was a pointless occupation . They had achieved their objectives End of story If u don’t get it forgt bout it |
Re: War In Ukraine: 'America Is Learning The Art Of Humility' by Great0ne1: 2:42pm On Mar 20, 2022 |
goodheart01:Then you may continue to wallow in your ignorance and foolishness |
Re: War In Ukraine: 'America Is Learning The Art Of Humility' by darediamond(m): 2:47pm On Mar 20, 2022 |
Jeromejnr: |
Re: War In Ukraine: 'America Is Learning The Art Of Humility' by darediamond(m): 2:50pm On Mar 20, 2022 |
ken045501:Fuuuuuuuuuuuuuck!!!!! I like you sentence mehhhhhhhn.... 1 Like |
Re: War In Ukraine: 'America Is Learning The Art Of Humility' by darediamond(m): 2:52pm On Mar 20, 2022 |
Simplelion:The whole of Europe is under SAMAT or Satan2. Ask NATO.. |
Re: War In Ukraine: 'America Is Learning The Art Of Humility' by BluntTheApostle(m): 2:56pm On Mar 20, 2022 |
quickly: That is not the point. The post I quoted made it seem like the Taliban never showed their faces until 2021. But that is not true. The Taliban returned in 2003, holding sway. In a couple of months, a large expanse of territories were under their control. The truth is that military forces, however great, will struggle against a largely non-conventional opposition. And so far, Ukraine has explored largely non-conventional warfare tactics, from using irregulars to ambushes, etceteras. |
Re: War In Ukraine: 'America Is Learning The Art Of Humility' by aribisala0(m): 2:56pm On Mar 20, 2022 |
Techguy96:How is it obvious? Game wey never reach half time you dey declare result.? Very funny. Russia is not moving troops by sea .This is their immediate neighbour If this continues for a couple more months Zelensky will not survive. If you are listening to Western media and their analysis of the war do no be misled I cannot think of any major NATO military success achieved in 4 weeks . Not in Iraq , Afghanistan or Viet Nam The reality is that Odessa will soon fall and when that happens the Ukrainians will be totally landlocked. That would be a disaster because when peace returns Russia might not hand it back. As long as this is happening in Russia's backyard there will be only one military outcome |
Re: War In Ukraine: 'America Is Learning The Art Of Humility' by stephenabudu959(m): 2:58pm On Mar 20, 2022 |
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Re: War In Ukraine: 'America Is Learning The Art Of Humility' by Owen247: 3:00pm On Mar 20, 2022 |
princeeze1:and dats y dey kip on using d word NUCLEAR ARMED RUSSIA wich have put its deterent forces on standby mode.russia is even waiting 4 d usa 2 make a move hence,using conscripts instead of veteran solders and not ova tasking dia air,naval and infantry forces. So far na just artillary power russia dey use in ukraine since. |
Re: War In Ukraine: 'America Is Learning The Art Of Humility' by stephenabudu959(m): 3:03pm On Mar 20, 2022 |
Thisis2raw: When a child doesn't understand... He begins to speak out of ignorance.. It's amusing some people think the USA �� is weak. Lemme just be laughing.... I personally would prefer the USA to ignore both Russia and Ukraine Only a fool beats the drum of war when he is not prepared 1 Like |
Re: War In Ukraine: 'America Is Learning The Art Of Humility' by Owen247: 3:08pm On Mar 20, 2022 |
dadexcel:in history,no world power have gone to world war and reemerged as d same world power. So usa gats avoid dat world war to remaine in power. 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: War In Ukraine: 'America Is Learning The Art Of Humility' by NairaMaster1(m): 3:13pm On Mar 20, 2022 |
goodheart01: Don't mind them. |
Re: War In Ukraine: 'America Is Learning The Art Of Humility' by Gospel2Day: 3:16pm On Mar 20, 2022 |
Dalil8: They don't feel powerless. The weapons they sent to Ukraine are dealing a deathly blow to the tanks and personnel of the Russian military. I think the West is War-Weary. They prefer to grow their economy now than give more economic might and benefits to China, if they go into a war with Russia now. Shalom |
Re: War In Ukraine: 'America Is Learning The Art Of Humility' by Ishilove: 3:30pm On Mar 20, 2022 |
BluntTheApostle:Don't mind them. Awon arm chair Generals isonu 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: War In Ukraine: 'America Is Learning The Art Of Humility' by Nobody: 3:31pm On Mar 20, 2022 |
smeag0l: Nobody, not even the US can win a nuclear exchange. It will be the end of civilization, there maybe survivors in nuclear bunkers, but then they will have to go back to medieval times. There are currently no counter measures for an ICBM. Am ICBM travels at Mach 21+, existing interceptors at their best intercepts incoming at mach 7. Secondly, they come with MIRV. E.g satan 2 has over 15MIRV warheads, meaning for every single one, you need 15 accurate interceptions. If 1000 was launched at you, you would need 15000 accurate interceptions, how is it even possible? Each warhead carries over 1000kN of ordainace. The one that destroyed Hiroshima is just 15kN. So even if your interceptors are able to shoot down some, the ones that scale through would be enough to totally annihilate you. This is the principle of MAD. This is the reason for the American humility. Because there is credible deterrence and a second strike is assured even if you were to launch a devastating preemptive first strike. The US is not after who blames them for what, after all they brushed off the UN and invaded Iraq. What they fear is MAD. Now you know why Kim is very much after nuclear deterrence, that’s the only language the US understands. Even if they do not have a means of delivery to mainland US, they have the capacity to wipe off SK which the US would want to avoid. Everyone calls Kim a dictator or rocketman, but that rocket is the reason the US has not cooked up a reason to invade him. Rather they would use sanctions as we see in Russia. |
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