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Ukraine Blocks Trans Women Refugees: "They Are Men, Must Go Back & Fight" by naijapower(m): 4:15am On Mar 24, 2022
The Ukrainian government is refusing to allow transgender women to leave the country along with the millions of women and children refugees who have been streaming into Poland and other European nations. Instead, Ukrainian border guards are turning them back and forcing them to return home to join the fight.

Their reasoning might sour some trans activists in the West: Ukraine's martial law requires all biological males between the ages of 18 and 60 to remain in the country and fight. And it makes no exceptions for trans women.

Even trans women who have been widely accepted by their communities as woman still carry passports identifying them as males, which is what border guards see when they try to cross the border. In many cases, trans women who have tried to flee have been turned back, according to the Italian newspaper La Corriere della Sera, Italy's largest-circulation newspaper.

The paper quoted a trans woman who shared her experience at the hands of the guards: "They are men...they must turn back and fight."

The story has been picked up by a handful of European newspapers, including the UK-based Guardian. Trans women who spoke with the two newspapers described "humiliating" searches by border guards, and other perceived depredations, before being denied further passage.

As strange hands searched her body and pulled back her hair to check if it was a wig, Judis looked at the faces of the Ukrainian border guards and felt fear and despair.

"Ukrainian border guards UnCloth you and touch you everywhere," Judis says. "You can see on their faces they’re wondering ‘what are you?’ like you’re some kind of animal or something."

Judis is a transgender woman whose birth certificate defines her as female.

Legally, there is no reason why she should not be allowed to pass with the thousands of women who are crossing Ukrainian borders to safety every day.

Yet, on 12 March at about 4am, after a long and humiliating search, border guards determined she was a man and prevented her passage into Poland.

Since Ukraine enacted martial law on Feb. 24, it's estimated that hundreds of trans women have tried to cross the border. Many have been turned back. The trans activists who spoke with both papers have said that trans people have reason to flee, since they would likely face persecution if Russia seizes control of the country. The Guardian went as far as to

The International Lesbian, Gay, Bisexual, Trans and Intersex Association said Ukraine ranks 39th out of 49 European countries for its overall treatment of LGBTQ+ people. Gay marriage is not allowed in the country, and the Christian Orthodox Church considers homosexuality a sin. There are also no anti-discrimination laws to protect LGBTQ+ people.

Legally speaking, Ukraine starting recognizing trans women as women in 2017, with one important catch: they must undergo extensive psychiatric observation and a lengthy bureaucratic process before their assumed gender can be reflected on formal documents.

"Martial law says all males are obliged to serve in the military, so they can’t leave the country," says Olena Shevchenko, 39, a human rights defender and the chair of Insight, a Ukrainian LGBTQ+ organization and one of the few public organisations in the country that works with trans people. "Technically, the law applies to trans people as well, including both certified trans men and trans women who had not changed their documents. But it sounds like Ukrainian border guards are preventing even trans people with a valid certificate reflecting their new gender from leaving Ukraine, and nobody knows why."

Two trans women interviewed by the Guardian shared similar stories about border guards telling them to turn back and join the fight.

"'Go to the war', they replied, adding that more than 3 million people had already fled the country and they weren't going to let me out."

Alice, 24, a trans woman from Brovary, a town near Kyiv, recounted a similar experience. She and her wife, Helen, a 21-year-old who identifies as non-binary, were stopped by border guards during an attempt to cross into Poland.

"They took us to a building near the border crossing,” recounts Alice. "There were three officers in the room. They told us to take off our jackets. They checked our hands, arms, checked my neck to see if I had an Adam’s apple. They touched my breasts. After examining us, border guards told us we were men. We tried to explain our situation but they didn’t care."

Interestingly, the American press didn't pick up the story. Could this be because it might undermine the bright shiny (definitely not nazi-ish) new heroic image of the Ukrainian government, which has been the subject of almost unanimously positive coverage in the American press?

https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/ukraine-blocks-trans-women-refugees-they-are-men-must-go-back-fight

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Re: Ukraine Blocks Trans Women Refugees: "They Are Men, Must Go Back & Fight" by Reflect7: 4:35am On Mar 24, 2022
This whole practice of the Ukrainian govt forcing all men aged 18 to 60 to remain in the country and 'fight' is fascist, authoritarian, and a clear human rights violation. That the UN and other rights organisations have been silent on this is scandalous, appalling and disgusting.

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Re: Ukraine Blocks Trans Women Refugees: "They Are Men, Must Go Back & Fight" by SmartProf(m): 4:46am On Mar 24, 2022
The Ukrainian govt by this action has restored them back to default settings. As far as their follow come body had dicks, they are males and must stay on to fight like other males. Any conversion that was made on their bodies in the course of their existence on Earth is null and void. They wanted to use technicalities to run away, not knowing that martial law no dey consider Bobrisky colleagues.

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Re: Ukraine Blocks Trans Women Refugees: "They Are Men, Must Go Back & Fight" by treamabenh: 4:53am On Mar 24, 2022
The People didn’t ask for War, it was the president who brought this on his citizens and he should pay for that,I hope the Kremlin gets him real quick.
Zelensky is a failure!

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Re: Ukraine Blocks Trans Women Refugees: "They Are Men, Must Go Back & Fight" by engrsyer(m): 4:56am On Mar 24, 2022
CNN, BBC other Western media would not carry this news. Only those who rely on fake news watches those stations and believe all their propaganda.

For me I can't be deceived by them.

I am to exposed to be deceived.

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Re: Ukraine Blocks Trans Women Refugees: "They Are Men, Must Go Back & Fight" by OlawaleBammie: 5:07am On Mar 24, 2022
treamabenh:
The People didn’t ask for War, it was the president who brought this on his citizens and he should pay for that,I hope the Kremlin gets him real quick.
Zelensky is a failure!
Oponu and imbec!le

U dont have sense na

Sebi that is how some invader came to ur papa properties and u let dem carry everything without fighting back.

That was how one randy neighbour of urs laid seige on ur papa house at ur presence, but today he has collected the house from u without any resistance from u.

Sense is far from u and i dont think anybody with excess of sense can sell single unit of sense to u cus u wont know the value.

Sebi the fight the president is fighting, he is fighting it for his family alone abi?? Is it not for the good of their generation unborn??

So dey should leave their inheritance cus dey want to satisfy u. Ani oo lopolo se. Mtcheew, ooooohhhh ani ogo, o ti goju.

No wonder ur conrtree is in shambles, people like u plenty for here, taking all what bn thrown at them by politicians with open arms.

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Re: Ukraine Blocks Trans Women Refugees: "They Are Men, Must Go Back & Fight" by YinkaOlusesi16(m): 5:22am On Mar 24, 2022
Their president caused it all, the citizens are not for war.

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Re: Ukraine Blocks Trans Women Refugees: "They Are Men, Must Go Back & Fight" by sweetonugbu: 5:32am On Mar 24, 2022
Once a mam always a man.But what about transgender men are they allow to go?.

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Re: Ukraine Blocks Trans Women Refugees: "They Are Men, Must Go Back & Fight" by Laggafin: 5:35am On Mar 24, 2022
Hahaha.. wahala be like who remove him blokos grin

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Re: Ukraine Blocks Trans Women Refugees: "They Are Men, Must Go Back & Fight" by HarunaWest(m): 5:48am On Mar 24, 2022
Reflect7:
This whole practice of the Ukrainian govt forcing all men aged 18 to 60 to remain in the country and 'fight' is fascist, authoritarian, and a clear human rights violation. That the UN and other rights organisations have been silent on this is appalling and disgusting.
Asking citizens to fight for their country is now a crime? Dude must you make a comment? Like I don't get you.

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Re: Ukraine Blocks Trans Women Refugees: "They Are Men, Must Go Back & Fight" by EMAXIM(m): 5:49am On Mar 24, 2022
They should cry the world a river. Go back and fight!

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Re: Ukraine Blocks Trans Women Refugees: "They Are Men, Must Go Back & Fight" by Flexherbal(m): 6:29am On Mar 24, 2022
This is serious
Re: Ukraine Blocks Trans Women Refugees: "They Are Men, Must Go Back & Fight" by Dpharisee: 6:33am On Mar 24, 2022
CNN will not report this one, it will tarnish the image of the comedian grin

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Re: Ukraine Blocks Trans Women Refugees: "They Are Men, Must Go Back & Fight" by Nosayer: 6:43am On Mar 24, 2022
HarunaWest:
Asking citizens to fight for their country is now a crime? Dude must you make a comment? Like I don't get you.

You dey mind the guy? He doesn't realise that should Nigeria enter an unprepared for war now, he won't escape conscription into the army when soldiers are needed.

Too much of freedom and laws is making people feel as if responsibility to one's country is now a crime.

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Re: Ukraine Blocks Trans Women Refugees: "They Are Men, Must Go Back & Fight" by Vicotex1: 6:55am On Mar 24, 2022
If them kill them nie. Na once media go label them innocent civilian.
Civilian wey toy don force to pick up weapon

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Re: Ukraine Blocks Trans Women Refugees: "They Are Men, Must Go Back & Fight" by qekng40(f): 7:26am On Mar 24, 2022
Wisdom from a Comedian cheesy


Wahala don tie gele grin grin

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Re: Ukraine Blocks Trans Women Refugees: "They Are Men, Must Go Back & Fight" by Elvictor: 7:29am On Mar 24, 2022
If you wan laugh, read news from Ukraine war, you go truly know say them get comedian as president grin grin cheesy

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Re: Ukraine Blocks Trans Women Refugees: "They Are Men, Must Go Back & Fight" by kingthreat(m): 7:43am On Mar 24, 2022
Good move. They are men with the strength of men and should not hide under the cover of LGBTQ to avoid patriotism.

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Re: Ukraine Blocks Trans Women Refugees: "They Are Men, Must Go Back & Fight" by Reflect7: 7:47am On Mar 24, 2022
OlawaleBammie:
Oponu and imbec!le

U dont have sense na

Sebi that is how some invader cam to ur papa properties and u let dem carry everything without fighting back.

That was how one randy neighbour of us laid seige on ur papa how at ur presence, but today he has collected the house from u without any resistance from u.

Sense is far from u and i dont think anybody with excess of sense can sell single unit of sense to u cus u wont know the value.

Sebi the fight the president is fighting, he is fighting it for his family alone abi?? Is it not for the good of their generation unborn??

So dey should leave their inheritance cus dey want to satisfy u. Ani oo lopolo se.

No wonder ur conrtree is in shambles, people like u plenty for here, taking all what bn thrown at him by politicians with open arms.

SHUT UP YOU DUNCE. The Ukrainians you are worshiping, is their country not in total and absolute shambles as we speak?

5 million of them have fled the country in the last week, and their infrastructure has been bombed to smithereens, as they await the threat of nuclear strikes from a raging, neighbouring superpower whom their govt has provoked by refusing to be a neutral buffer between NATO and Russia as COMMON SENSE would dictate.

Now the western media have brainwashed you into supporting their puppet in their tribal conflict.

Shouldn't you use your brain, instead of being a brainwashed dunce, and insist, like the west always do when condescendingly commenting on African and Middle Eastern wars, that ONLY A DIPLOMATIC SOLUTION CAN END THE CRISIS and that VIOLENCE IS NOT THE ANSWER?

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Re: Ukraine Blocks Trans Women Refugees: "They Are Men, Must Go Back & Fight" by siofra(f): 8:05am On Mar 24, 2022
Legally speaking, Ukraine starting recognizing trans women as women in 2017, with one important catch: they must undergo extensive psychiatric observation and a lengthy bureaucratic process before their assumed gender can be reflected on formal documents.

They should also undergo surgery to change their genitals before being accepted as women. This is what should happen in every western country.

Somebody with a functional penis cannot change his gender and be allowed to enter women's bathrooms or compete in women's sport without going through this rigorous processes.

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Re: Ukraine Blocks Trans Women Refugees: "They Are Men, Must Go Back & Fight" by Nonexisting: 8:30am On Mar 24, 2022
They should block feminists too. They can't be forming housewives in war times and feminists in peace time. All they do chochocho for is shouting equal rights everywhere like this chimpanzee.

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Re: Ukraine Blocks Trans Women Refugees: "They Are Men, Must Go Back & Fight" by Nobody: 8:31am On Mar 24, 2022
They are right. * thats what they get when they fail to accept who they are. shebi na u want "gbola".

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Re: Ukraine Blocks Trans Women Refugees: "They Are Men, Must Go Back & Fight" by HigherEd: 9:07am On Mar 24, 2022
This one make me laugh o

Lalasticlala

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Re: Ukraine Blocks Trans Women Refugees: "They Are Men, Must Go Back & Fight" by baralatie(m): 9:11am On Mar 24, 2022
Restore default settings

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Re: Ukraine Blocks Trans Women Refugees: "They Are Men, Must Go Back & Fight" by OlawaleBammie: 9:32am On Mar 24, 2022
Reflect7:


SHUT UP YOU DUNCE. The Ukrainians you are worshiping, is their country not in total and absolute shambles as we speak?

5 million of them have fled the country in the last week, and their infrastructure has been bombed to smithereens, as they await the threat of nuclear strikes from a raging, neighbouring superpower whom their govt has provoked by refusing to be a neutral buffer between NATO and Russia as COMMON SENSE would dictate.

Now the western media have brainwashed you into supporting their puppet in their tribal conflict.

Shouldn't you use your brain, instead of being a brainwashed dunce, and insist, like the west always do when condescendingly commenting on African and Middle Eastern wars, that ONLY A DIPLOMATIC SOLUTION CAN END THE CRISIS and that VIOLENCE IS NOT THE ANSWER?
Tom is more brainy than u re, u this cretin.

Who tells u am worshipping Ukrainians

Am only telling u that fighting for a country is not a crime if u re a citizen of that country.

So the Ukrainians should worship the rusians abi, or the president should present the Ukrainians and their land to putin on a platter of gold.

Olodo ni e, u dont have brain, u re not having wat it takes to be a leader, i can even never be one cus no one would envisage having a dunce and an irrational fellow as his leader.


Ukraine is in shambles but ur people is running there for greener pastures and studies everyday.. u sef, o go. Akindanidani.
Who dash u fon? U mumu ooh, u no dey tink. Sense is far from u and the person i first quoted.

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Re: Ukraine Blocks Trans Women Refugees: "They Are Men, Must Go Back & Fight" by Nobody: 11:22am On Mar 24, 2022
HarunaWest:
Asking citizens to fight for their country is now a crime? Dude must you make a comment? Like I don't get you.

It should be voluntary. Nobody sent the leaders to go to war.

Putin should do fast and clear Ukraine and any Western nation that tries shît.

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Re: Ukraine Blocks Trans Women Refugees: "They Are Men, Must Go Back & Fight" by lildonn222: 11:29am On Mar 24, 2022
Not only trans,women should also be forced to stay and fight.So as to let them enjoy the equality they fought so hard for.

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Re: Ukraine Blocks Trans Women Refugees: "They Are Men, Must Go Back & Fight" by OBALOLA55(m): 11:35am On Mar 24, 2022
SUPPORTED cool
Re: Ukraine Blocks Trans Women Refugees: "They Are Men, Must Go Back & Fight" by Sergio101(m): 11:40am On Mar 24, 2022
grin
Re: Ukraine Blocks Trans Women Refugees: "They Are Men, Must Go Back & Fight" by letristian: 11:40am On Mar 24, 2022
Nice move
Re: Ukraine Blocks Trans Women Refugees: "They Are Men, Must Go Back & Fight" by pansophist(m): 11:40am On Mar 24, 2022
Regardless of their sexual orientation, it is not by force to fight a war that you didn't start. The politicians and their children should be the ones fighting.

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