usj:
I would have loved to point out a few publications for you to read yourself but unfortunately I'm so exhausted now. Please don't follow the Western media they would only brain wash you. The have chosen a side which clearly show how bias they are. Abeg another time make I sleep first

Your reply is that I should stop reading western media, It's alright!!!

Western media western media, why did Russia not put effort to make Russian media the popular ones. You think to be world power you will just be one, just because you have nukes.

Don't direct me to go read anything anywhere. Tell me the negotiation efforts and deals Putin has offered to Ukraine before starting the war, since western media would not allow it to get out.

efficiencie:


Wow so you are the one in charge of Russia's nuclear arsenal and you know the ones that are working and the ones that are not working. You be Russian general? Abi you be former KGB agent? Abi na you dey command Russia deterrence forces? So how many US nuclear missiles are still functioning? Abi you be double agent? CIA agent!!! Mumu.

Idiot, u think this is a movie? At least using your phone to check google will do u a lot of good, instead of downloading porn with it and masturbating yourself to stupidity

Every sane human being will always do a research before coming to argue. Putin dogs are indeed foolish

Techguy96:

This is what most people don't know, they just see Russia have 6000 nuke n US has 5000 nuke, and they just assume Russia is superior.

Mumu full nairaland sha

Putin fans are less informed. And that’s because most are touts and the others foolish. Their mumu never do

goodheart01:


Stop being deluded pls I beg u. Every sane mind knows the US conducts most of their secret tests in Area 51 of the Nevada desert, a no fly zone and heavily guarded military testing site wider than any state in northern Nigeria. They’re just blessed with that place.

Russia makes junks. I will never forget the ones they supplied Saddam during the gulf war... tueehh

You are the deluded one.

Go and read about Pentagon's failed military programs from the 1980s to 2019, and how many of them failed in real conflicts, and were canceled.

Ignoramus!!!

goodheart01:


Idiot, u think this is a movie? At least using your phone to check google will do u a lot of good, instead of downloading porn with it and masturbating yourself to stupidity

Every sane human being will always do a research before coming to argue. Putin dogs are indeed foolish

Even Washington has agreed that there is a lot of secrecy surrounding Russia's arsenal.

But you, an unemployed Nigerian who spends all his days licking Biden's ass thinks you know a lot about Russia.

BluntTheApostle:


Even Washington has agreed that there is a lot of secrecy surrounding Russia's arsenal.

But you, an unemployed Nigerian who spends all his days licking Biden's ass thinks you know a lot about Russia.

Talking about unemployed I want to let u know that not everyone on nairaland is as hopeless and jobless as u are. At least I employ people. U can check my online store and franchise on google. It’s called Bongomart and powered by my firm Bongomart Global Services www.bongomart.ng. I could also employ u too. Simply write to my admin team on support@bongomart.ng

Back to the topic of discussion, Washington agreed to nothing. The only country that has been known to be shrouded in such secrecy as u say is North Korea, even a goat knows this, yet I wonder why u don’t know. There’s nothing secret about a country like Russia that tells u how many hypershit missiles they have and test. And if u may ask yourself this isn’t almost 5yrs u heard US test a weapon, did your feeble mind also tell u they don’t test? Or they don’t want to? And you are so dumb not to know there’s secrecy enshrouding then too. Why do u think they have that secret testing Area 51 and 52 in Nevada desert?

People like u talking rubbish here will still be the first to rush an American visa and dump a Russian visa. Mugu!

BluntTheApostle:


You are the deluded one.

Go and read about Pentagon's failed military programs from the 1980s to 2019, and how many of them failed in real conflicts, and were canceled.

Ignoramus!!!

Every country has a failed military program so stop being foolish. A military program can fail in one way or the other. But Russia’s failed military programs are much more than many others. I know u are still a kid, at least we who followed the gulf war between 1989 to 1991 will tell u how Russia’s weapons failed Saddam so badly. In fact one of the major reasons Saddam was quickly over run despite he already had a good fighting force.

Even the number of the nukes on Google is wrong,it's just based on the minimum they are expected to have

goodheart01:


Same way even the US won’t tell u about their latest weapons and actual number of nukes they have? Or u expect them to also tell u that? Mind u, if u say the information on google is wrong, then u can also say the data of Russia having up to 6,000 nukes is also wrong and may be lies because google also has such data.

Oga theat data analysis was from a nuclear watch body. Let’s stop decieving ourselves pls

Voldoz:


Oya tell us the reality on ground.

This is a simple issue.

The US is not under attack so no need for them to launch strikes against Russia. They are not afraid of Russia in any way. They value their infrastructure and economy more, so as other nations

Its like you did not read my post. I Mentioned that USA has no business in the conflict going on in Eastern Europe. No one cares if they're afraid of Russia or not.

goodheart01:


Every country has a failed military program so stop being foolish. A military program can fail in one way or the other. But Russia’s failed military programs are much more than many others. I know u are still a kid, at least we who followed the gulf war between 1989 to 1991 will tell u how Russia’s weapons failed Saddam so badly. In fact one of the major reasons Saddam was quickly over run despite he already had a good fighting force.

SMH.

So, all of a sudden, every military program fails? I thought only Russia makes junk.

Anyways, show me evidence that Russia's military programs fail much more than others?

If you can't back up your claims, then you are an ignoramus for life.

Everyone would take note, and I will drag you with it for as long as I remain on Nairaland.

goodheart01:


Talking about unemployed I want to let u know that not everyone on nairaland is as hopeless and jobless as u are. At least I employ people. U can check my online store and franchise on google. It’s called Bongomart and powered by my firm Bongomart Global Services www.bongomart.ng. I could also employ u too. Simply write to my admin team on support@bongomart.ng

Everyone is an employer on Nairaland.

Go and look for employment. No be only online store.

Back to the topic of discussion, Washington agreed to nothing. The only country that has been known to be shrouded in such secrecy as u say is North Korea, even a goat knows this, yet I wonder why u don’t know. There’s nothing secret about a country like Russia that tells u how many hypershit missiles they have and test. And if u may ask yourself this isn’t almost 5yrs u heard US test a weapon, did your feeble mind also tell u they don’t test? Or they don’t want to? And you are so dumb not to know there’s secrecy enshrouding then too. Why do u think they have that secret testing Area 51 and 52 in Nevada desert?

North Korea? And yet the United States have been able to develop anti-missile systems against North Korean missiles, but not against even outdated Russian nukes.

People like u talking rubbish here will still be the first to rush an American visa and dump a Russian visa. Mugu!

Russia is safer than the United States.

You are more likely to be killed while taking a leisurely walk in the United States than in Russia.

I have never ever wanted an American visa.

And I am not a Western or a foreign slave like you.

goodheart01:


Idiot, u think this is a movie? At least using your phone to check google will do u a lot of good, instead of downloading porn with it and masturbating yourself to stupidity

Every sane human being will always do a research before coming to argue. Putin dogs are indeed foolish

His eminence. Most stupid of them all. Only a total nitwit will accept the bunkum online as research. See slowpoke wey dey call anoda pessin idiot. Na you be CIA agent and still you be commander of Russia's deterrence forces. Idiot. Only you sabi the number of functional nuclear missiles wey Russia get because na for your house dem keep the nuclear bombs abi. Ode just go online see trash come here come dey display stupidity. Don't pass this your imbecilic attitude to your children ohh. There are enough imbeciles in this world already. One of them is the president of Ukraine.

BKayy:
It's a two way something. The US can try.

Once it is intercepted, which is most likely due to the known technology of US nuclear weapons, USA will become an all you can eat buffet for Russian hypersonic attacks. Remember that Russian hypersonic missiles have been proven to carry Nuclear warheads and there is no known defence for it at the moment.

Goodbye USA. BTW, I can't remember seeing North Korea ICBM news on this forum.
USA should remember the part Kim Jong UN checked his watch. He was checking the time remaining for USA to remain as top power

I still can't understand how your kind has not learnt anything from this ongoing crisis in Russia backyard

Has it not expose all the hyper stories about war machines to be exaggerated?

The US has always known that Russia inventory were full of obsolete and non functional weapons because for the numbers declared there was no way they could be maintained from a paltry less than 50 billion dollars per year defense budget and still keep a healthy military force

Just to modernise a single item the US has a budget of a trillion dollars

You actually believe that

Most of what is reported about Russia so called might are just perceptions not the reality because Russia is not an open society where information flows freely...5his crisis in Ukraine and their poor performance proofs this


Russia is not s rich country. Texas , California and New York states are individually richer than Russia as a nation

efficiencie:


His eminence. Most stupid of them all. Only a total nitwit will accept the bunkum online as research. See slowpoke wey dey call anoda pessin idiot. Na you be CIA agent and still you be commander of Russia's deterrence forces. Idiot. Only you sabi the number of functional nuclear missiles wey Russia get because na for your house dem keep the nuclear bombs abi. Ode just go online see trash come here come dey display stupidity. Don't pass this your imbecilic attitude to your children ohh. There are enough imbeciles in this world already. One of them is the president of Ukraine.

What is the defense budget of Russia that they should maintain over 6k functional nuclear weapons

Themandator:


What is the defense budget of Russia that they should maintain over 6k functional nuclear weapons

Dude as far as information on the defense apparatus and spending is concerned the information online from superpowers cannot be reliable because every country would like to ride on the element of surprise. Till today the US' F-22 stealth capabilities are kept a secret. We can also expect that there are other information that could be kept a secret. Plus these countries could purposely give misinformation. The US and Russia agreed to reduce their nuclear warheads to between 1700-2000 in the Moscow treaty but do you know how many megatons of TNT each warhead now can deliver? If previously Russia had say 10,000 warheads each with the destructive power of 10 megatons of TNT but they reduced their number of warheads to 2000 only to increase the destructive power of each warhead to 50 megatons of TNT are we not back to square one. The whole world will think they have reduced the number of nuclear weapons but the combined destructive power of all the nuclear warheads have not changed. You should never trust online information on the military capabilities of superpowers. Normally military information will be classified and when it is declassified it can easily contain a lot of misinformation.

efficiencie:


Dude as far as information on the defense apparatus and spending is concerned the information online from superpowers cannot be reliable because every country would like to ride on the element of surprise. Till today the US' F-22 stealth capabilities are kept a secret. We can also expect that there are other information that could be kept a secret. Plus these countries could purposely give misinformation. The US and Russia agreed to reduce their nuclear warheads to between 1700-2000 in the Moscow treaty but do you know how many megatons of TNT each warhead now can deliver? If previously Russia had say 10,000 warheads each with the destructive power of 10 megatons of TNT but they reduced their number of warheads to 2000 only to increase the destructive power of each warhead to 50 megatons of TNT are we not back to square one. The whole world will think they have reduced the number of nuclear weapons but the combined destructive power of all the nuclear warheads have not changed. You should never trust online information on the military capabilities of superpowers. Normally military information will be classified and when it is declassified it can easily contain a lot of misinformation.

Have you ever seen a nation that outspent her GDP ? The sum total of her total out put in a year ?

Russia doesn't have the resources to be what you fancy her to be ...three states in America , individually,is richer than Russia.


There are many weapons that Russia did indeed publicize but ended up not mass produced despite their claim that it had been adopted and inducted ....example is the T14 yank that they paraded in 2015


This was supposed to be their latest tanks but is not present in Ukraine.., principal reason being the thing had not been mass produced due to resources


20 was claimed to have been produced then 80 bit the when this technology was sent to battle field in Syria , all the claims made about it was exposed as it was destroyed by resistants using javelin

Most warheads you have seen these guys test is not more than a dozen in reality because huge resources is needed to have that number ....some of those things are just shell nothing inside


Many on this platform was hyperventilating that Russia had not taken Ukraine seriously that when they start the world will know but only the CIA that had confronted through proxy in Afghanistan know them better.


Even Washington doesn't believe her own CIA estimate of Russia ground troops which the CIA in one of her cables from Pakistan during stays ten year stint in Afghanistan in which America armed the opposing camp did describe Russia red army as a third world army




ussian Army’s Fail No Surprise to CIA Official Who Battled It in Afghanistan
Milt Bearden ran CIA operation that backed Afghan Mujahideen against Red Army

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The Russian military’s poor performance in Ukraine comes as no surprise to the former CIA officer who ran the agency’s covert operation against the Red Army in Afghanistan four decades ago.


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Russia’s best were plagued by bad maintenance, poor chains of command, low morale, alcoholism and desertions—and of course, the hit-and-run tactics of the CIA-backed Afghan “holy warriors,” whom the U.S. eventually armed with game-changing Stinger anti-aircraft missiles. The Red Air Force had no answer for them. The vaunted Red Army reeled.

“Their equipment sucked,” says Milton Bearden, CIA station chief in Pakistan during the most vigorous chapters of the agency’s proxy war against Soviet forces in Afghanistan in the mid-to-late 1980s.

The Red Army’s medical kits included glass bottles that might have been holdovers from World War Two, Bearden told SpyTalk, instead of the plastic vials in use by American and other contemporary military services. Kits captured by the Afghan guerrillas “were bags of broken glass and liquid,” he said. “They could get a rocket going, but they couldn't make a ballpoint pen. That little ball bearing at the end of the pen? They couldn’t make those.”

Bearden, a highly decorated officer who retired in 1994 after 30 years and heading the Soviet/East European Division, says his cables back to headquarters increasingly describing Russian forces as a “third world army” were met with disbelief.

“The Soviet analysis people just went up in the air,” he recalled in an interview. “They said, ‘This is bullshit. You guys are making this shit up. It can't be.’” The war ended with the Red Army’s retreat from Afghanistan in 1989.

Bearden’s comments echo reports from Ukraine today, with Russia’s army facing equipment failures, fuel and food shortages and communications breakdowns. Its soldiers have allegedly been looting shops, homes and relief convoys for food because their military rations long ago expired or ran out.

Themandator:



Have you ever seen a nation that outspent her GDP ? The sum total of her total out put in a year ?

Russia doesn't have the resources to be what you fancy her to be ...three states in America , individually,is richer than Russia.


There are many weapons that Russia did indeed publicize but ended up not mass produced despite their claim that it had been adopted and inducted ....example is the T14 yank that they paraded in 2015


This was supposed to be their latest tanks but is not present in Ukraine.., principal reason being the thing had not been mass produced due to resources


20 was claimed to have been produced then 80 bit the when this technology was sent to battle field in Syria , all the claims made about it was exposed as it was destroyed by resistants using javelin

Most warheads you have seen these guys test is not more than a dozen in reality because huge resources is needed to have that number ....some of those things are just shell nothing inside


Many on this platform was hyperventilating that Russia had not taken Ukraine seriously that when they start the world will know but only the CIA that had confronted through proxy in Afghanistan know them better.


Even Washington doesn't believe her own CIA estimate of Russia ground troops which the CIA in one of her cables from Pakistan during stays ten year stint in Afghanistan in which America armed the opposing camp did describe Russia red army as a third world army




ussian Army’s Fail No Surprise to CIA Official Who Battled It in Afghanistan
Milt Bearden ran CIA operation that backed Afghan Mujahideen against Red Army

Jeff Stein
Mar 23
11
2
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The Russian military’s poor performance in Ukraine comes as no surprise to the former CIA officer who ran the agency’s covert operation against the Red Army in Afghanistan four decades ago.


Visit Ukraine photo
Russia’s best were plagued by bad maintenance, poor chains of command, low morale, alcoholism and desertions—and of course, the hit-and-run tactics of the CIA-backed Afghan “holy warriors,” whom the U.S. eventually armed with game-changing Stinger anti-aircraft missiles. The Red Air Force had no answer for them. The vaunted Red Army reeled.

“Their equipment sucked,” says Milton Bearden, CIA station chief in Pakistan during the most vigorous chapters of the agency’s proxy war against Soviet forces in Afghanistan in the mid-to-late 1980s.

The Red Army’s medical kits included glass bottles that might have been holdovers from World War Two, Bearden told SpyTalk, instead of the plastic vials in use by American and other contemporary military services. Kits captured by the Afghan guerrillas “were bags of broken glass and liquid,” he said. “They could get a rocket going, but they couldn't make a ballpoint pen. That little ball bearing at the end of the pen? They couldn’t make those.”

Bearden, a highly decorated officer who retired in 1994 after 30 years and heading the Soviet/East European Division, says his cables back to headquarters increasingly describing Russian forces as a “third world army” were met with disbelief.

“The Soviet analysis people just went up in the air,” he recalled in an interview. “They said, ‘This is bullshit. You guys are making this shit up. It can't be.’” The war ended with the Red Army’s retreat from Afghanistan in 1989.

Bearden’s comments echo reports from Ukraine today, with Russia’s army facing equipment failures, fuel and food shortages and communications breakdowns. Its soldiers have allegedly been looting shops, homes and relief convoys for food because their military rations long ago expired or ran out.

Dude Russia is in the trillion dollar GDP club of the 17 countries there and it has a defense spending that ranks 4th after US, China and India. If Putin was all noise and no power NATO would have invaded Russia. NATO has a valid reason to invade Russia and seize power from Putin like they did to Saddam. The world is even cheering NATO on to do it. Some members of Congress are even calling for the assassination of Putin and most US media, including the right-wing ones are calling for a Russian invasion by NATO...so if Russia were a walk over what is holding NATO back? How come they sit by and watch Russia invade Ukraine and shell it badly? So bro your write up does not add up. Yes, the US alone has a military-industrial complex that vastly outweighs that of Russia and NATO combined is more vastly more powerful than Russia and Putin himself admits this...so why is NATO dragging its feet? They should attack Russia na make we watch "clash of the titans 2". At least we will get to watch the world burn up in our lifetime.

efficiencie:


Dude Russia is in the trillion dollar GDP club of the 17 countries there and it has a defense spending that ranks 4th after US, China and India. If Putin was all noise and no power NATO would have invaded Russia. NATO has a valid reason to invade Russia and seize power from Putin like they did to Saddam. The world is even cheering NATO on to do it. Some members of Congress are even calling for the assassination of Putin and most US media, including the right-wing ones are calling for a Russian invasion by NATO...so if Russia were a walk over what is holding NATO back? How come they sit by and watch Russia invade Ukraine and shell it badly? So bro your write up does not add up. Yes, the US alone has a military-industrial complex that vastly outweighs that of Russia and NATO combined is more vastly more powerful than Russia and Putin himself admits this...so why is NATO dragging its feet? They should attack Russia na make we watch "clash of the titans 2". At least we will get to watch the world burn up in our lifetime.

The only reason the US is hesitant in Russia is nuclear weapons and nuclear war that night arise from it

Soldier against soldier Russia is no where near the US

CIA referred to the Russian army as third world army forty years ago and the reason for those assessment still persist ....


Compare this fact:. Russia spent ten years in Afghanistan and lost 15000 men. America spent 20 years and lost 2340 men

Themandator:



The only reason the US is hesitant in Russia is nuclear weapons and nuclear war that night arise from it

Soldier against soldier Russia is no where near the US

CIA referred to the Russian army as third world army forty years ago and the reason for those assessment still persist ....


Compare this fact:. Russia spent ten years in Afghanistan and lost 15000 men. America spent 20 years and lost 2340 men

Oh then how come the US did so poorly in Vietnam where it was soldier for soldier? How come the almighty US replaced Taliban 1.0 with Taliban 2.0 after 20 years of occupation? As far as weapons go nuclear weapons and an effective delivery system are the pinnacle of armament right now and not pawns you calls soldiers. One man with just two 50mt nukes can destabilize a whole country's military formation particularly when that country is Nigeria, Togo, Benin etc. Detonate one and you will likely see soldiers fleeing for their lives like civilians.

Themandator:



The only reason the US is hesitant in Russia is nuclear weapons and nuclear war that night arise from it

Soldier against soldier Russia is no where near the US

CIA referred to the Russian army as third world army forty years ago and the reason for those assessment still persist ....


Compare this fact:. Russia spent ten years in Afghanistan and lost 15000 men. America spent 20 years and lost 2340 men

I say again your point on Russia's military might flies in the face of logic. If Russia's nukes are old and antiquated and they are basically a third world army how come NATO, a military alliance of the US and the EU, is scared of stopping Putin? Biden recently made a statement that seemed to call for a regime change in Russia and the White House scrambled to do damage control and reposturing to inform the world that the White House does not intend to pursue regime change. Why are they bloody scared? If Russia's military might is comparable to that of a third world country then NATO has nothing to be scared of. Before Putin could launch its nukes he could be neutralized, right? Please drop this illogical CIA propaganda about Russia's military might. It's just bonkers.

efficiencie:


I say again your point on Russia's military might flies in the face of logic. If Russia's nukes are old and antiquated and they are basically a third world army how come NATO, a military alliance of the US and the EU, is scared of stopping Putin? Biden recently made a statement that seemed to call for a regime change in Russia and the White House scrambled to do damage control and reposturing to inform the world that the White House does not intend to pursue regime change. Why are they bloody scared? If Russia's military might is comparable to that of a third world country then NATO has nothing to be scared of. Before Putin could launch its nukes he could be neutralized, right? Please drop this illogical CIA propaganda about Russia's military might. It's just bonkers.

Russia doesn't even have an operational aircraft carrier

Only because they have nuclear weapons but not in the regions of 6k that is functional

Dallas may be nuked.

Gospel2Day:


For you to conclude that there will be no countermeasure to hypersonic missiles is enough proof that you are not a scientific mind.
You don't know what researchers are doing secretly in laboratories around the world.
May be you have also concluded that no other countries except Russia and China will ever have hypersonic missiles.
You will be shocked what US, UK, Japan, Canada and Israel, even India will come up with soon.
The hypersonic arms race is just starting.
Russia will soon regret flaunting it when every country in Europe and elsewhere begins to develop and deploy theirs soon.
That time we shall see who Putin will threaten with hypersonic missiles.

And which country threatens other sovereign country more, other than the US. Western hypocrisy at the highest.

Themandator:



Russia doesn't even have an operational aircraft carrier

Only because they have nuclear weapons but not in the regions of 6k that is functional

For your information. They do have. Try getting your facts right before you post . No hard feelings though

efficiencie:


I say again your point on Russia's military might flies in the face of logic. If Russia's nukes are old and antiquated and they are basically a third world army how come NATO, a military alliance of the US and the EU, is scared of stopping Putin? Biden recently made a statement that seemed to call for a regime change in Russia and the White House scrambled to do damage control and reposturing to inform the world that the White House does not intend to pursue regime change. Why are they bloody scared? If Russia's military might is comparable to that of a third world country then NATO has nothing to be scared of. Before Putin could launch its nukes he could be neutralized, right? Please drop this illogical CIA propaganda about Russia's military might. It's just bonkers.

You even have the time to be explaining to him what Nuclear weapon really is. A lot of them respond with little or no knowledge on international politics

ademola721gmai:

For your information. They do have. Try getting your facts right before you post . No hard feelings though

I stated that they don't have an operational,that is functional or operable aircraft carrier.

Rastaramsey:
Make una no nuke anything oooo

Make una just dey cripple Russia steady
Buh if they nuke, you sef go nuke x10

There is only one problem; Russia has more nukes than the US