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Re: Referendum Holds In Kherson - What's Your Opinion? by Parachoko: 7:41am On Apr 28, 2022
00FFT00:
I observed that a not insignificant number of our countrymen and women support the illegal Russian war on Ukraine. As we speak, a Russia-sanctioned referendum is underway in the captured region of Kherson, Ukraine.

What is the opinion of these countrymen in regards to the demand for a referendum in the Southeast for an independent state on their behalf?. Or should we assume that what is good for Russia is poison to Nigerians who support Russia's criminality?.
The people of the South East should start voting parties who are in favour of referendum before we will start taking them serious.

Now they.are all screaming South East presidency or the North continues and you think people will take them seriously?
Re: Referendum Holds In Kherson - What's Your Opinion? by gidgiddy: 7:42am On Apr 28, 2022
00FFT00:
I observed that a not insignificant number of our countrymen and women support the illegal Russian war on Ukraine. As we speak, a Russia-sanctioned referendum is underway in the captured region of Kherson, Ukraine.

What is the opinion of these countrymen in regards to the demand for a referendum in the Southeast for an independent state on their behalf?. Or should we assume that what is good for Russia is poison to Nigerians who support Russia's criminality?.

For a referendum to be legal, the government or legislature of the country you are conducting the referendum in must agree to it

If you conduct a referendum without the consent of the government or legislature of the country, whatever you are doing is illegal
Re: Referendum Holds In Kherson - What's Your Opinion? by gidgiddy: 8:06am On Apr 28, 2022
Parachoko:
The people of the South East should start voting parties who are in favour of referendum before we will start taking them serious.

Now they.are all screaming South East presidency or the North continues and you think people will take them seriously?

There are no such parties
Re: Referendum Holds In Kherson - What's Your Opinion? by Parachoko: 8:14am On Apr 28, 2022
gidgiddy:


There are no such parties
Then you guys are not ready for Biafra. Nobody can stop the Igbos from establishing a party, whose main aims and objectives will be to take out Igbo land from Nigeria.

The Scottish voted parties in favour of independence, the Catalonians voted political parties in favour of independence, but you guys keep on voting APC, PDP and APGA and still turn around and scream Nigeria is holding you.

What kind of joke is this grin

Some of una don dey scream Igbo presidency or the North continue, after voting a Fulani man, una go still scream say Fulanis want to take over Nigeria and islamise it... Most of you guys are just confuse.

The only reason you guys scream Biafra is because the PDP lost to the APC in 2015. No one is taking you guys serious.

Igbo politicians will lose out in the APC and PDP primaries. Except you want to deceive yourself, you can keep on believing Obi will win the PDP ticket.

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Re: Referendum Holds In Kherson - What's Your Opinion? by helinues: 8:15am On Apr 28, 2022
gidgiddy:


For a referendum to be legal, the government or legislature of the country you are conducting the referendum in must agree to it

If you conduct a referendum without the consent of the government or legislature of the country, whatever you are doing is illegal

Then why are Igbos shouting referendum if the government or the legislative arms of the government are not interested in the debate?
Re: Referendum Holds In Kherson - What's Your Opinion? by Princevirus(m): 9:17am On Apr 28, 2022
helinues:


Forget about online noise, do Igbos in general really want Biafra? That's the survey you guys should first conduct

That's why they are asking for referendum to ascertain the mind of the majority
Re: Referendum Holds In Kherson - What's Your Opinion? by helinues: 9:17am On Apr 28, 2022
Princevirus:


That's why they are asking for referendum to ascertain the mind of the majority

From who are they asking the referendum from?
Re: Referendum Holds In Kherson - What's Your Opinion? by dettolgel: 9:35am On Apr 28, 2022
Re: Referendum Holds In Kherson - What's Your Opinion? by gidgiddy: 9:58am On Apr 28, 2022
helinues:


Then why are Igbos shouting referendum if the government or the legislative arms of the government are not interested in the debate?

You are allowed to shout for a referendum, it is known in international law as self determination. What you are not allowed to do is conduct a referendum on your own

However, it is important to note that if one does not shout about referendum, nobody will know there is desire for one

Shouting for referendum is very important, it is one way of letting government and the international community know that people are not happy with the union they belong to
Re: Referendum Holds In Kherson - What's Your Opinion? by helinues: 10:02am On Apr 28, 2022
gidgiddy:


You are allowed to shout for a referendum, it is known in international law as self determination. What you are not allowed to do is conduct a referendum on your own

However, it is important to note that if one does not shout about referendum, nobody will know there is desire for one

Shouting for referendum is very important, it is one way of letting government and the international community know that people are not happy with the union they belong to

But those who have been making moves for self determination are not doing it just online without taking reasonable steps
Re: Referendum Holds In Kherson - What's Your Opinion? by gidgiddy: 10:04am On Apr 28, 2022
Parachoko:
Then you guys are not ready for Biafra. Nobody can stop the Igbos from establishing a party, whose main aims and objectives will be to take out Igbo land from Nigeria.

The Scottish voted parties in favour of independence, the Catalonians voted political parties in favour of independence, but you guys keep on voting APC, PDP and APGA and still turn around and scream Nigeria is holding you.

What kind of joke is this grin

Some of una don dey scream Igbo presidency or the North continue, after voting a Fulani man, una go still scream say Fulanis want to take over Nigeria and islamise it... Most of you guys are just confuse.

The only reason you guys scream Biafra is because the PDP lost to the APC in 2015. No one is taking you guys serious.

Igbo politicians will lose out in the APC and PDP primaries. Except you want to deceive yourself, you can keep on believing Obi will win the PDP ticket.

You are comparing a civilised country like Britain with Nigeria? Attempts have been made to register a party whose main political agenda is referendum to get the East out of Nigeria. INEC flatly refused to register sny party with break up agenda

However, it is important to note that even if such a party was registered, it probably won't get very far because even if such party was voted en-mass by Igbos, that party will still have to go to the national assembly in Abuja to move a motion for referendum and other zones in the country will be waiting for them, so as to vote such motion down
Re: Referendum Holds In Kherson - What's Your Opinion? by chibuike65: 10:34am On Apr 28, 2022
Wow you really came prepared, having men like you at the forefront it's interesting, really some folks just hate the name Igbo/Biafra, bad they don't want to let go of them, really igbos having it's bad time been treated like second class citizens in their country, hates in all Conner of the country, I strongly believe igbos will bounce they will glow very soon, talking about Nigeria the hate and division has been planted in our heart which I think will be of great importance to all the region to put aside everything talk more on how to go on our separate ways peacefully, we will be better off let the competition start like that, let stop deceiving our selves call for one Nigeria every time, have you heard of of one Ghana that's why they're progressing, since I was born been hearing one Nigeria but on only on paper, let's tell ourselves truth we are not one at all we hate our selves that's why we are not progressing
BKayy:

No way of representing the commutative interest of people if transparent is considered illegal.

On the issue of SE. You calling it SE and thinking that a referendum for the case of nationhood should be restricted to such shows either your biased nature or total ignorance to the history and cultural boundaries of Africa.

The case of Igboland is simply that of an oppressor not allowing his prey legal freedom. By oppressor, I am not talking about Nigeria or any slave farm name she wishes to go by or other trapped slaves within it that think that by holding down another that they worth anything.

In this kind of scenario where we have an oppressor unwilling to relinquish control over the victim, the victim has only one option and that is to wrestle freedom from the oppressor the way Eritrea or 70% of the countries in Europe did.

The oppressor here is Britain. No slave within Nigeria has the power to unilaterally dissolve this slave farm.

By the way, challenging these institutions below was considered illegal, ie the institutions were legal

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Re: Referendum Holds In Kherson - What's Your Opinion? by Lionnation: 10:39am On Apr 28, 2022
helinues:


Tell me if Catalonians have been creating nuisance to attract Police brutality
yes catalonians have been protesting street procession just like ipob was doing unmolested, you are a black man that is why you think the way you do
Re: Referendum Holds In Kherson - What's Your Opinion? by helinues: 10:40am On Apr 28, 2022
Lionnation:
yes catalonians have been protesting street procession just like ipob was doing unmolested, you are a black man that is why you think the way you do

Is protesting same as creating nuisance?
Re: Referendum Holds In Kherson - What's Your Opinion? by chibuike65: 10:48am On Apr 28, 2022
An Igbo man will write an article for a meaningful argument the other people can not even hide the bitterness and hate, let's just deal this issus once and for all try this referendum, I know some have hbp when they hear referendum and Biafra, why must you be tormenting your self like that Everytime let's settle the issue so that you'll be free from the torment, it's a free well we sometimes made mention of how things are down other part of the word but when topics like this are been discussed we only come up with the hatred in us, we need to do better lets try this referendum you might be in favor of it, can you think the possibilities of your LGA becoming a state what impart will it create, jobs security value for money, think of your community becoming an LGA, you might be the LGA chairman things will be a bit stable, let's stop allowing the people in power stop using us because all they want is to remain on top they want you to remain begging they felt threaten, because you won't come begging like before anymore,
Re: Referendum Holds In Kherson - What's Your Opinion? by chibuike65: 10:51am On Apr 28, 2022
The call of division has been on before you and I was born I think it's the best interest of all to give it a chance than be dying in hatred and still be calling it one Nation, my dear we are not one,
Re: Referendum Holds In Kherson - What's Your Opinion? by naija4life247: 10:58am On Apr 28, 2022
00FFT00:
I observed that a not insignificant number of our countrymen and women support the illegal Russian war on Ukraine. As we speak, a Russia-sanctioned referendum is underway in the captured region of Kherson, Ukraine.

What is the opinion of these countrymen in regards to the demand for a referendum in the Southeast for an independent state on their behalf?. Or should we assume that what is good for Russia is poison to Nigerians who support Russia's criminality?.

Which referendum are you talking about? Igbos do not want to b part of this Fulani Republic again. Simple. Let Igbos go, definitely others too will follow

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Re: Referendum Holds In Kherson - What's Your Opinion? by chibuike65: 11:00am On Apr 28, 2022
I can remember ipob wasn't like this when they started, what happened to end Sars protesters happened to Ipob, when the did one million man protest match which they planned in all part of Nigeria,it was massive yes the government with police you know the story uncountable, government started planting touts in the protests Nnamdi Kanu was loved by his people he had influence more than a sitting governor, the government was afrade of Kanu, had it been it was still going smoothly I bet the country Biafra would have been birth since with the level of publicity all around the world, yeah freedom they say is not giving but taken,
Re: Referendum Holds In Kherson - What's Your Opinion? by Parachoko: 11:19am On Apr 28, 2022
gidgiddy:


You are comparing a civilised country like Britain with Nigeria? Attempts have been made to register a party whose main political agenda is referendum to get the East out of Nigeria. INEC flatly refused to register sny party with break up agenda

However, it is important to note that even if such a party was registered, it probably won't get very far because even if such party was voted en-mass by Igbos, that party will still have to go to the national assembly in Abuja to move a motion for referendum and other zones in the country will be waiting for them, so as to vote such motion down
Can you show me evidence of INEC rejecting such a move.

Una never try, but you are talking about the country voting it down.

I will keep on saying it, the only reason you guys are talking about Biafra is because the party you supported lost out in 2015.
Re: Referendum Holds In Kherson - What's Your Opinion? by gidgiddy: 11:34am On Apr 28, 2022
Parachoko:
Can you show me evidence of INEC rejecting such a move.

Una never try, but you are talking about the country voting it down.

I will keep on saying it, the only reason you guys are talking about Biafra is because the party you supported lost out in 2015.




Thrre was agitation for Biafra way before 2015. Uwazurike was leading MASSOB during Obasanjo's tenure

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