a4cube:
Made a lot of sense. Ego from the West is the only thing that is prolonging this war. The morale boosting and biased optimism from the West to Zelensky is only destroying Ukraine. Ukrainians need to act now to save their beloved country otherwise many other cities will look like Maruopol soon.

a4cube:
Made a lot of sense. Ego from the West is the only thing that is prolonging this war. The morale boosting and biased optimism from the West to Zelensky is only destroying Ukraine. Ukrainians need to act now to save their beloved country otherwise many other cities will look like Maruopol soon.

Techsupport:
Angus Roxburgh is an ass. if the world has come together to support Poland on September 12th, 1939 when Hitler and his 3rd Reich invaded them, there wouldn't have been a world war 2. Evil only succeeds when good men do nothing.
You don't negotiate with a lion when he has your head in his mouth, you fight, call for help, activate every action you have to survive that encounter. you will come out bruised and battered but you will come out alive.

This is what Ukraine is doing.

Techsupport:
Angus Roxburgh is an ass. if the world has come together to support Poland on September 12th, 1939 when Hitler and his 3rd Reich invaded them, there wouldn't have been a world war 2. Evil only succeeds when good men do nothing.
You don't negotiate with a lion when he has your head in his mouth, you fight, call for help, activate every action you have to survive that encounter. you will come out bruised and battered but you will come out alive.



This is what Ukraine is doing.

princemillla:




No, some people here think upside down. They feel they are protecting their inherited territory.
Ukraine has denounce they won't join nato, they've suffered heavy loss on both citizens and infrastructure. It will take years to rebuild what they've lost.
The West knows what they are doing honestly!

Papichulostunne:


After all these devastating losses.. who will rebuild the country eventually... "the west"

Ukaine ia indebted to Uk and US

Papichulostunne:


Ukraine is dead as we speak.. what is bruises to a corpse?

ebufa:




you are a naive incompetent! The west is out to destroy Russia by any underhand means they can muster! they engineered the Chechen rebellion ditto Georgia republic rebellion...........the west has a disdain for Russia and immense envy of that resource rich nation.They desire to colonize and control russia simplicita! They want control over the future of Russia , the way they control most of the world including your country Nigeria.............they baited Russia to get into this war...........why is the USA meddling in Russia's backyard? USA will never allow any nation meddle in her own backyard!

Techsupport:
Angus Roxburgh is an ass. if the world has come together to support Poland on September 12th, 1939 when Hitler and his 3rd Reich invaded them, there wouldn't have been a world war 2. Evil only succeeds when good men do nothing.
You don't negotiate with a lion when he has your head in his mouth, you fight, call for help, activate every action you have to survive that encounter. you will come out bruised and battered but you will come out alive.

This is what Ukraine is doing.

Techsupport:


Ukraine needs to act now ?. please do not hold back Tell us what they are supposed to do. Tell us what they need to do to end this war.
So if Niger Republic invades Nigeria today, you will quickly surrender your property, wife, and children so that there will be no war?

Boy, there are cuckolds on this forum!!

plaindealer:
Ukraine go remain standing as a sovereign nation while dumb pouTin the clown go remain inside dustbin of history and Russia a poor and isolated global pariah..

Techsupport:


Ukraine needs to act now ?. please do not hold back Tell us what they are supposed to do. Tell us what they need to do to end this war.
So if Niger Republic invades Nigeria today, you will quickly surrender your property, wife, and children so that there will be no war?

Boy, there are cuckolds on this forum!!

Techsupport:


Ukraine needs to act now ?. please do not hold back Tell us what they are supposed to do. Tell us what they need to do to end this war.
So if Niger Republic invades Nigeria today, you will quickly surrender your property, wife, and children so that there will be no war?

Boy, there are cuckolds on this forum!!

ebufa:




[s]you are a naive incompetent! The west is out to destroy Russia by any underhand means they can muster! they engineered the Chechen rebellion ditto Georgia republic rebellion...........the west has a disdain for Russia and immense envy of that resource rich nation.They desire to colonize and control russia simplicita! They want control over the future of Russia , the way they control most of the world including your country Nigeria.............they baited Russia to get into this war...........why is the USA meddling in Russia's backyard? USA will never allow any nation meddle in her own backyard! [/s]

princemillla:



[s]And who will bring the dead back to life
What we are saying is, stop arming the poor country. We all agreed this is a needless war, and sincerely unprovoked one. But further fueling the needless war will only aggravate the already worst conditions[/s]

Techsupport:


Ukraine needs to act now ?. please do not hold back Tell us what they are supposed to do. Tell us what they need to do to end this war.
So if Niger Republic invades Nigeria today, you will quickly surrender your property, wife, and children so that there will be no war?

Boy, there are cuckolds on this forum!!

Techsupport:


So he might as well lay down and die right? Now I see why your country is fuccked up. you cowards have no spine

Papichulostunne:


Pls what have you on your own in particular did to aid you country's economy in the last 3 months..

a4cube:
Few people in the west doubt that Ukraine is fighting a just war. Russia’s invasion was entirely unprovoked. Whatever complaints it may have had about Nato expansion or Ukraine’s mistreatment of Russians in Donbas, nobody had attacked Russia, and nobody was planning to. Vladimir Putin launched a straightforward war of aggression and territorial conquest.

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It follows that supporting Ukraine is the right thing to do. But it is not at all clear that the kind of support we are giving (and not giving) is the right way to go about preserving the Ukrainian nation.

The longer this war rages on, the more Ukrainians will flee their homeland, and the more devastation will be wrought upon their homes, cities, industry and economy. Yet the west’s current approach of supporting Ukraine’s war aim of defeating the aggressor, and providing arms for that purpose while pointedly avoiding direct military intervention, is guaranteed to prolong the war. Russia’s progress may be slowed, but it’s highly unlikely to be stopped, far less pushed out of Ukraine, and in the meantime the grinding destruction and hideous war crimes will continue.

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No day goes past without some senior western politician proclaiming that Ukraine will be “successful” and that Russia is “failing”. This is certainly morale-boosting. But it is clearly nonsense.

The fact is, day by day, more towns and cities are destroyed and then fall to the Russians. In two months, the area under Russian control – originally just the breakaway parts of Donbas – has grown to perhaps five times the size. If Russia continues to suffer “defeats” at this pace, then in another two months the entire south of Ukraine will be in ruins, cities such as Odesa will resemble Mariupol, and thousands upon thousands more Ukrainians will have died.

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Worse, as the war goes on, and more towns are destroyed, it becomes less likely that Ukrainians who have fled to other countries will ever return, because they will have no homes or workplaces to come back to. How many citizens of Mariupol will ever return? If Russia’s aim was to exterminate the Ukrainian nation, then the west’s approach is helping to do just that.

Surely, if the lives of Ukrainian people are our concern then the west has to do something to stop the war – now. Encouraging the Ukrainians to continue, however just their cause, is merely making their country uninhabitable.

The trouble is, there are only two ways to stop the war quickly, and neither is palatable to most western leaders.

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One would be for Nato to enter the war and make a quick, massive and decisive strike to cripple Russia’s invasion forces. Unlike with Russia’s actions, it would have every right under international law to do so. When Putin intervened in Syria, he very carefully framed this as a response to a request from Syria’s legitimate and internationally recognised government. The west could do the same in Ukraine. Putin himself has no such justification for his invasion.

The risk involved in this – of a third world war – is obvious, and it’s why the west refuses to intervene directly.

The other option is to persuade Putin to implement an immediate ceasefire, by inviting Russia to comprehensive peace talks. Western leaders are disinclined to parley with a butcher such as Putin. But they did it with Serbia’s Slobodan Milošević, only months after the massacre at Srebrenica, and the result was the Dayton agreement that put an end to the war in Bosnia in 1995.

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To get Putin to the negotiating table at all, everything would have to be up for discussion – including Ukraine’s borders, Russia’s age-old security concerns, perhaps even the very logic of basing today’s international frontiers in that part of Europe on what were internal borders in the USSR, drawn up by communist leaders precisely to prevent Soviet republics and regions from being viable independent states. The outcome of the talks does not need to be predetermined. The important thing is to talk rather than fight.

Western leaders cannot bring themselves to broach these matters, which would seem to reward Putin for attempting to redraw the map by force. They would rather fight – or more accurately, let Ukraine fight, in the hope of defeating Russia. But if one thing is certain it is that Putin will never accept defeat. He is already too deeply invested in this war to back off with nothing to show for it. If western leaders think that their arms-length encouragement of Ukraine will bring about a Ukrainian military victory, then they are fatally misreading Putin’s intentions and resolve. For Ukraine’s sake, we need to stop him now, one way or the other, before nothing is left of the country we want to protect.

Angus Roxburgh is a former BBC Moscow correspondent and former consultant to the Kremlin. He is the author of The Strongman: Vladimir Putin and the Struggle for Russia and Moscow Calling: Memoirs of a Foreign Correspondent

Techsupport:
Angus Roxburgh is an ass. if the world has come together to support Poland on September 12th, 1939 when Hitler and his 3rd Reich invaded them, there wouldn't have been a world war 2. Evil only succeeds when good men do nothing.
You don't negotiate with a lion when he has your head in his mouth, you fight, call for help, activate every action you have to survive that encounter. you will come out bruised and battered but you will come out alive.

This is what Ukraine is doing.

Adjovi:



If only you took your time to read the article well. In this case no one will come out alive. The only reasonable thing to do is peace talk.

Techsupport:


And how many peace talk has there been and all the while russian soldiers are shelling ukraine, killing and raping civilians.

Adjovi:



They are not talking enough. Ukraine knows what to do. NATO can't intervene directly because it will need to an all out war (world war 3 likely) , continuous supply of weapons will only prolong the war and cause more destructions to Ukraine and more deaths.

Techsupport:


They are not talking enough? really? ofcourse Ukraine knows what to do and they are doing it right now. If you will easily surrender your land to an invading force, the rest of the men in the world who have balls will not sit back and allow and invading army kill and rape our wives and daughters.
The problem I noticed in this forum is that most Nigerian men are riddled with fear, they are all bark and no bite. So if Cameroon invades cross-river state, we should just seat back and pray that God touch their hearts and they stop killing people? So if other states start sending weapons to Cross-river state to fight off the invaders, they are just prolonging the war?

How do people really reason in Nigeria? Now I understand why the entire place is going to hell in a hand basket. this is the type of reasoning that set governing policy, this is the reasoning that runs the businesses and work place. Gentleman, No politician can save you guys with this hardly functioning grey matter. this is just sad and really embarrassing.
As for world war 3? dont trouble your self. No one is going to waste a single ordinance on people who think like you do. All they need to do is send an email and all of you will conform.

Adjovi:




You don't even know what you're saying. It's easy to type from the comfort of your home. People in US and Ukraine will think otherwise.

Techsupport:


Boy sit your ass down. I have seen more firefights and destruction than you can imagine. I have been shot at in combat so much that only the ones that pinged real close are the ones I still remember.
Don't let this forum fool you, I have forgotten way more than you can ever remember. I know what I am saying, I have been the aggressor, I have also been a defender. Ukraine is doing exactly what I would have done. What I already did 11 years ago.