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Re: Where In The Quran Does It States That Killing Is The Punishment For Insulting P by Dtruthspeaker: 10:46am On May 15, 2022
haekymbahd:
It is true there is no verse that supports this in the Quran but I am afraid maybe they got their idea from the bible

Leviticus 24
16And he who blasphemes the [b]Name of the Lord
, he shall surely be put to death, and all the congregation shall certainly stone him; the stranger as well as he who was born in the land shall be put to death when he blasphemes the Name [of the Lord].

And it said "The Lord" and Mohammed is not even a lord.

So, you see, the Bible does not support him and them.

They are on their own.
Re: Where In The Quran Does It States That Killing Is The Punishment For Insulting P by Kobojunkie: 12:52pm On May 15, 2022
Indifferent12:

Answer my questions na.

Why was 40 children killed by bear in the Bible?
Did God command that event, or did Elisha instead ask God to cause a bad thing to happen to the kids in questions? undecided

Open your eyes to read the OP'S question to you so you better comprehend what was asked and my previous response to you. undecided
Re: Where In The Quran Does It States That Killing Is The Punishment For Insulting P by Haakeem(m): 3:45pm On May 15, 2022
after4:
Haakeem come and see, terrorist


Why do you keep choosing foolishness over success? I'm dissapointed in you.
Re: Where In The Quran Does It States That Killing Is The Punishment For Insulting P by Haakeem(m): 3:50pm On May 15, 2022
rawgame:
Na wa o. How will someone read Quran and not be a terrorist?
what is this one saying?.

So if a porn actor reads a bible and any other person reads it also, that means the person is also a pornster?.

Sense is not that expensive aitt.
Re: Where In The Quran Does It States That Killing Is The Punishment For Insulting P by after4: 5:04pm On May 15, 2022
disappointed in me or your prophet who kills for fun and asked you to do so in your quran? you are a terrorist and i go still respond to you.


Haakeem:
Why do you keep choosing foolishness over success? I'm dissapointed in you.
Re: Where In The Quran Does It States That Killing Is The Punishment For Insulting P by Haakeem(m): 5:28pm On May 15, 2022
after4:
disappointed in me or your prophet who kills for fun and asked you to do so in your quran? you are a terrorist and i go still respond to you.


Call me a terroist once more and get your acct banned, i'm not bragging.
Re: Where In The Quran Does It States That Killing Is The Punishment For Insulting P by after4: 5:30pm On May 15, 2022
you are a terrorist like your prophet


Haakeem:
Call me a terroist once more and get your acct banned, i'm not bragging.

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Re: Where In The Quran Does It States That Killing Is The Punishment For Insulting P by after4: 5:31pm On May 15, 2022
talk sey nah lie and i go carry this matter for head now like gala

Haakeem:
So you call your self a christian?.

hm a christian indeed, without one sense of reasoning, so pathetic.
Re: Where In The Quran Does It States That Killing Is The Punishment For Insulting P by Lawag3: 6:08pm On May 15, 2022
haekymbahd:
It is true there is no verse that supports this in the Quran but I am afraid maybe they got their idea from the bible


Leviticus 24
16And he who blasphemes the Name of the Lord, he shall surely be put to death, and all the congregation shall certainly stone him; the stranger as well as he who was born in the land shall be put to death when he
blasphemes the Name [of the Lord].

This is from the laws of Moses, when Jesus came he said follow peace with all men.
Re: Where In The Quran Does It States That Killing Is The Punishment For Insulting P by Lawag3: 6:12pm On May 15, 2022
Indifferent12:

Lol, clown

Why did bear devour 40 children in the Bible again.

Its funny how black men in Africa worship and adore a Jewish god from middle east.

Yall should free urself from mental slavery.

It because they insulted Elisha. He was not wise enough to control his anger.
There is power in the tongue.
Re: Where In The Quran Does It States That Killing Is The Punishment For Insulting P by Lawag3: 6:16pm On May 15, 2022
Indifferent12:

Yall always claim its in the old testament until its favors you.

The 10 commandments is also in the old testament.

Besides yall claim the Bible is written with God inspiration, so God inspiration don turn old testament?

Bunch of slaves to a non existing Jewish god that's what every Christian n Muslim are.


The law you are quoting was the law of Moses
The ten commandments were directly from God and if everyone follows it the word will be a better place.
Re: Where In The Quran Does It States That Killing Is The Punishment For Insulting P by Indifferent12: 7:59am On May 16, 2022
Kobojunkie:
Did God command that event, or did Elisha instead ask God to cause a bad thing to happen to the kids in questions? undecided

Open your eyes to read the OP'S question to you so you better comprehend what was asked and my previous response to you. undecided
And god granted what Elisha asked.

Meaning God was in support of what Elisha did.

The answer to the op question is all over the thread.

My question is to show u that ur Jewish God support murder of children because they insulted his prophets.
Re: Where In The Quran Does It States That Killing Is The Punishment For Insulting P by Indifferent12: 8:01am On May 16, 2022
Lawag3:



The law you are quoting was the law of Moses
The ten commandments were directly from God and if everyone follows it the word will be a better place.
What is Moses law doing inside a book that suppose to be God inspired words.

So we now have to be cherry picking the Bible, like

No, let's not do this, its Moses law
Let's not do this its Paul's law.

Yes, let's do this its God's law.

Can't u see how fake the religion n the Bible is, no wonder its ineffective n useless.
Re: Where In The Quran Does It States That Killing Is The Punishment For Insulting P by Indifferent12: 8:02am On May 16, 2022
Lawag3:


It because they insulted Elisha. He was not wise enough to control his anger.
There is power in the tongue.

And God allowed children to be murdered because they insulted his prophets. Besides why is God using foolish people that cannot control their anger as his prophets, which kind God be that.
Re: Where In The Quran Does It States That Killing Is The Punishment For Insulting P by IamV: 8:05am On May 16, 2022
Radamelt:




Lol --- Funny Christians don't know the bible. Even Jesus Himself says kill whoever doesn't bow to Him.

A Bible verse corroborating your claim will be appreciated.
Re: Where In The Quran Does It States That Killing Is The Punishment For Insulting P by after4: 12:17pm On May 16, 2022
my brother, wetin you want make i talk nah


Indifferent12:

Have u seen a porn actor marrying a 6 years old n having sex with a 9 years old?

Porn actors have more decency than Mohammed.
Re: Where In The Quran Does It States That Killing Is The Punishment For Insulting P by Kobojunkie: 2:15pm On May 16, 2022
Indifferent12:
And god granted what Elisha asked.
Meaning God was in support of what Elisha did.
The answer to the op question is all over the thread..
Learn to pay attention! The question is asking here whether killing is punishment for insulting prophets. undecided

Most every single prophet in the bible was insulted at one time or another, yet not once was it recorded before or after that incident with Elisha and the kids that anyone was killed as a result. This since Adonai never gave His Prophets the impression that they were above insults, and none of them acted as such. Matter of fact many of God's prophet's suffered violence and humiliation at the hands of the people they were sent to, many more of them murdered yet God didn't retaliate against their oppressors in most all of those cases. undecided


Now to the case of Elisha and the 40 children, there is a context to that story you conveniently ignore. Before Elisha was established as prophet, many of God's prophet's in the land had been hunted down and murdered by the people who had mostly turned to idol worshipping. The few remaining prophets went into hiding , some thanks to Obadiah. Elijah, a major prophet at the time panicked and ran for his life for fear that he was next but in 1 kings 19, we read of how God sent him back so he could annoint those he had chosen to resolve the problem, this after So many of His prophets had been used for target practice. undecided

So in 2 Kings 2, the killings have ended, King Ahab and his wife Jezebel out of the picture, Elijah replaced by Elisha as the major prophet. Now Elisha is written to have been followed out of the city of Bethel by a group of about 40 boys, all of them mocking them and posing a possible threat, this in the same land that only recently made target practice out of prophets. Elisha couldn't dial 911, so He did the best thing which was call in the God who only recently installed him as a prophet. And God responded with a vengeance sending a message to all in the land that He would not tolerate a repeat of recent events. And His message was clearly received in all of Israel too because at no other time is it written, after that, that God's prophet's were rounded up and massacre in similar manner by the people of Israel. undecided
Re: Where In The Quran Does It States That Killing Is The Punishment For Insulting P by Kobojunkie: 2:54pm On May 16, 2022
Lawag3:
It because they insulted Elisha. He was not wise enough to control his anger.
There is power in the tongue.
Sure the kids insulted Elisha, but the situation had nothing to do with the insults and Elisha was not being immature at all. That incident had nothing with what you assume the power of the tongue this since the story is clear that it was God, not Elisha that caused the Bear to maul all 40 or so boys. undecided
Re: Where In The Quran Does It States That Killing Is The Punishment For Insulting P by Lawag3: 8:41pm On May 16, 2022
Indifferent12:

What is Moses law doing inside a book that suppose to be God inspired words.

So we now have to be cherry picking the Bible, like

No, let's not do this, its Moses law
Let's not do this its Paul's law.

Yes, let's do this its God's law.

Can't u see how fake the religion n the Bible is, no wonder its ineffective n useless.

I don't know what you are hoping to gain but I pray that God touch you, you'd make a good preacher.
Re: Where In The Quran Does It States That Killing Is The Punishment For Insulting P by Kobojunkie: 9:07pm On May 16, 2022
Indifferent12:
1. What is Moses law doing inside a book that suppose to be God inspired words.

2. So we now have to be cherry picking the Bible, like
No, let's not do this, its Moses law
Let's not do this its Paul's law. Yes, let's do this its God's law.

3. Can't u see how fake the religion n the Bible is, no wonder its ineffective n useless.
1. Well, that depends on your understanding of the word inspired this since scrpture contains and documents opinions of men, words of Satan, demons and also the Word of God. undecided

God is God of Laws, and yes, the books of Exodus, Leviticus, Numbers and Deuteronomy, contain the details of God's Old Covenant Law given by God as a Constitution specifically to those of the Nation of Israel which He is written to have constituted in those same books. undecided

2. Opening you eyes to the facts of what is written isn't cherry picking. undecided

Paul has no law since God is the only authority to give Law or commands to those who belong to Him. What you know however as the Gospel is actually God's Law, New Covenant , given to individuals- not people's, groups or nations - as constitution for living in the Kingdom of God - Matthew 26 vs 28 - 30 undecided

3. What I can clearly see instead is that you have never in fact read the book in your own capacity before.. undecided
Re: Where In The Quran Does It States That Killing Is The Punishment For Insulting P by Indifferent12: 10:10pm On May 18, 2022
Kobojunkie:
Learn to pay attention! The question is asking here whether killing is punishment for insulting prophets. undecided

Most every single prophet in the bible was insulted at one time or another, yet not once was it recorded before or after that incident with Elisha and the kids that anyone was killed as a result. This since Adonai never gave His Prophets the impression that they were above insults, and none of them acted as such. Matter of fact many of God's prophet's suffered violence and humiliation at the hands of the people they were sent to, many more of them murdered yet God didn't retaliate against their oppressors in most all of those cases. undecided


Now to the case of Elisha and the 40 children, there is a context to that story you conveniently ignore. Before Elisha was established as prophet, many of God's prophet's in the land had been hunted down and murdered by the people who had mostly turned to idol worshipping. The few remaining prophets went into hiding , some thanks to Obadiah. Elijah, a major prophet at the time panicked and ran for his life for fear that he was next but in 1 kings 19, we read of how God sent him back so he could annoint those he had chosen to resolve the problem, this after So many of His prophets had been used for target practice. undecided

So in 2 Kings 2, the killings have ended, King Ahab and his wife Jezebel out of the picture, Elijah replaced by Elisha as the major prophet. Now Elisha is written to have been followed out of the city of Bethel by a group of about 40 boys, all of them mocking them and posing a possible threat, this in the same land that only recently made target practice out of prophets. Elisha couldn't dial 911, so He did the best thing which was call in the God who only recently installed him as a prophet. And God responded with a vengeance sending a message to all in the land that He would not tolerate a repeat of recent events. And His message was clearly received in all of Israel too because at no other time is it written, after that, that God's prophet's were rounded up and massacre in similar manner by the people of Israel. undecided
How is calling someone bald posing a threat?

I was expecting this reply sha, its part of ur wheel of excuses.

"You are taking it out of context" I can't count the number of times Christians have told me this.
Re: Where In The Quran Does It States That Killing Is The Punishment For Insulting P by Indifferent12: 10:12pm On May 18, 2022
Kobojunkie:
Sure the kids insulted Elisha, but the situation had nothing to do with the insults and Elisha was not being immature at all. That incident had nothing with what you assume the power of the tongue this since the story is clear that it was God, not Elisha that caused the Bear to maul all 40 or so boys. undecided
That's exactly my point, god killed the boys because they insulted his prophets.
Re: Where In The Quran Does It States That Killing Is The Punishment For Insulting P by Indifferent12: 10:16pm On May 18, 2022
Kobojunkie:
1. Well, that depends on your understanding of the word inspired this since scrpture contains and documents opinions of men, words of Satan, demons and also the Word of God. undecided

God is God of Laws, and yes, the books of Exodus, Leviticus, Numbers and Deuteronomy, contain the details of God's Old Covenant Law given by God as a Constitution specifically to those of the Nation of Israel which He is written to have constituted in those same books. undecided

2. Opening you eyes to the facts of what is written isn't cherry picking. undecided

Paul has no law since God is the only authority to give Law or commands to those who belong to Him. What you know however as the Gospel is actually God's Law, New Covenant , given to individuals- not people's, groups or nations - as constitution for living in the Kingdom of God - Matthew 26 vs 28 - 30 undecided

3. What I can clearly see instead is that you have never in fact read the book in your own capacity before.. undecided
I doubt you have read the new testament, this whole Christianity of a thing is base of Paul's actions and u think he has no law. Paul literarily wrote half of the new testament.
Re: Where In The Quran Does It States That Killing Is The Punishment For Insulting P by God2man2again(m): 10:22pm On May 18, 2022
Where in the Quran? No answer yet.
Re: Where In The Quran Does It States That Killing Is The Punishment For Insulting P by Kobojunkie: 10:40pm On May 18, 2022
Indifferent12:
How is calling someone bald posing a threat?

I was expecting this reply sha, its part of ur wheel of excuses.
"You are taking it out of context" I can't count the number of times Christians have told me this.
The children called for the bald man to get away from their city. undecided
23 Elisha went from that city to Bethel. He was walking up the hill to the city, and some boys were coming down out of the city. They began making fun of him. They said, “Go away, you bald-headed man! Go away, you bald-headed man!”

24 Elisha looked back and saw them. He asked the Lord to cause bad things to happen to them. Then two bears came out of the forest and attacked the boys. There were 42 boys ripped apart by the bears.

25 Elisha left Bethel and went to Mount Carmel and from there he went back to Samaria. - 2 Kings 2 vs 23 - 25
God sent the bald man to that city but here you have boys trailing him and telling him to go away, this in the same nations where only recently God had put a stop to the killing of His servants who He sent to these same people.. undecided

Well, context is King when reading even scripture! undecided
Re: Where In The Quran Does It States That Killing Is The Punishment For Insulting P by Kobojunkie: 10:47pm On May 18, 2022
Indifferent12:

I doubt you have read the new testament, this whole Christianity of a thing is base of Paul's actions and u think he has no law. Paul literarily wrote half of the new testament.
How come every time you post a comment, i come off doubting your claims of ever reading that book for yourself. undecided

Paul did not found or begin Christianity this since the one who is the Gospel even Paul claims to have preached is Jesus Christ and this Gospel is written of in the books of Matthew, Mark, Luke and John, and not in Paul's epistles. undecided
Re: Where In The Quran Does It States That Killing Is The Punishment For Insulting P by Kobojunkie: 10:53pm On May 18, 2022
Indifferent12:

That's exactly my point, god killed the boys because they insulted his prophets.
God killed the boys because they stood in the way of His prophet. They stood in the way of the one God sent when tyey shouted at Him to go away. He killed them to send a message to their parents and all of Israel that if the people stood up against against His prophets in the way they had only recently done, He would strike back. undecided

God didn't kill them because they called Elisha a bald man. For all we know Elisha may have in fact been a bald man. That ain't an insult of any kind. Certainly not of the godly kind. undecided

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