cornelboy:

The whole thing is irrelevant to you because of your beliefs.
But your life is not irrelevant to you and you would do anything to stay alive for long isn't it
This is really interesting. No one actually wants to die young.

How do you feel knowing that you gonna leave everything you worked hard for behind and your memory will be forgot?

What's the difference between living long (your desire) and dying at a tender age?
Everything is purposeless! Vanity upon vanity.

According to your athiest beliefs here, nothing in this life is worth it. Nothing matters. That's the plain truth.

With the Bible, you would be able to find meaning to life.

Jehovah God, the source of all life will restore the earth and people will live in abundance of peace in it. The righteous that died will be raised and see their loved ones again forever.

The rest that died would remain dead forever. You don't wanna be part of them right?

Would your believing in a God change anything? Of course not!
I don't think it's wise thing to take chances.

You can start studying with the JWs. That's the best advice you may got your entire life.

May you have peace

lol, you just want what you believe to be true

FatherOfJesus:
lol, you just want what you believe to be true

One has to be the TRUTH

cornelboy:

One has to be the TRUTH

lol, you are funny.
You didn't even want to discuss what I posted. You just wanted what you believe to be true.

Would you like that I make fun of your belief or you discuss genuinely?

FatherOfJesus:
lol, you are funny.
You didn't even want to discuss what I posted. You just wanted what you believe to be true.
Would you like that I make fun of your belief or you discuss genuinely?

Your post was too long so I had to cut most of it. I responded to some part though.

What would you get by doing that?
You can do whatever you want bro.

The theory of bigbang and evolution from ape to human are ridiculous. Only a stupid person would believe that.

cornelboy:


Your post was too long so I had to cut most of it. I responded to some part though.

What would you get by doing that?
You can do whatever you want bro.

The theory of bigbang and evolution from ape to human are ridiculous. Only a stupid person would believe that.

really?
Tell me what you understand by evolution?

I want honest responses

Steep:

Evidence points to the fact that the universe had a definte beginning and also cannot create itself hence has a creator, you chosed to be ignorant.

Even if evidence points that the universe has a definite beginning, we still dont know that beginning or the cause of the beginning... the idea of God is just a guess work

frank317:


Even if evidence points that the universe has a definite beginning, we still dont know that beginning or the cause of the beginning... the idea of God is just a guess work

We dont even know the extent of the universe. Stephen Hawkins proposed a multi-universe universe. So the beginning we speculate about might just be our own universe.

The James Web Telescope is proposed to find evidence for other universes.

FatherOfJesus:
really?
I want honest responses

Tell me what you understand by evolution?

The believe that living things developed from other earlier form. Specifically human are said to have evolved from apes.

I thought you guys believe only what you could provide testable evidence for.
Your bigbang and evolution theory will always remain an unprovable fact.

Simple question for you:
If humans evolved from animals-from apes, for example-why is there such a huge gap between the intellectual abilities of humans and those of apes?

Appeal to ignorance.

cornelboy:


The believe that living things developed from other earlier form. Specifically human are said to have evolved from apes.

We believe living things developed (evolved) from simpler form because that's how everything works in nature. Simplest atom Hydrogen evolved to more complex atoms and the complex atoms evolved to more complex atoms all the way to uranium. Single cells evolved to multicellular organism which further evolved to tissues, organs and systems. Even man made objects like cars, telephones, computers, etc., evolved from simplest forms to the complex forms we have today.

Humans are not said to evolve from apes. Humans are categorised as ape along with gorilla, Bonobos, urangutan and chimpanzees. They all are said to evolve from a common ancestor.

I thought you guys believe only what you could provide testable evidence for.
Your bigbang and evolution theory will always remain an unprovable fact.

If you have a more plausible explanation for the origin of species and the red shift of distant objects as well as the microwave background radiation, we will be glad to consider it.

Simple question for you:
If humans evolved from animals-from apes, for example-why is there such a huge gap between the intellectual abilities of humans and those of apes?

Survival. Different species evolve different organs and abilities to suit its survival according to environmental factors. Birds evolved wings and flight, elephants evolved size and strength, other apes evolved strength and powerful long limbs to aid its tree dwelling habitat. Humans evolved an enlarged brain, an opposing thumb for making tool and and an upright posture to be able to survive in the hostile savannah of Africa

cornelboy:




The believe that living things developed from other earlier form. Specifically human are said to have evolved from apes.

I thought you guys believe only what you could provide testable evidence for.
Your bigbang and evolution theory will always remain an unprovable fact.

Simple question for you:
If humans evolved from animals-from apes, for example-why is there such a huge gap between the intellectual abilities of humans and those of apes?

So how do you explain fossils, drug resistance, variations, extinction and the radiometric dating evidence?

wirinet:
Appeal to ignorance.
We believe living things developed (evolved) from simpler form because that's how everything works in nature. Simplest atom Hydrogen evolved to more complex atoms and the complex atoms evolved to more complex atoms all the way to uranium. Single cells evolved to multicellular organism which further evolved to tissues, organs and systems. Even man made objects like cars, telephones, computers, etc., evolved from simplest forms to the complex forms we have today.
Humans are not said to evolve from apes. Humans are categorised as ape along with gorilla, Bonobos, urangutan and chimpanzees.
Survival.

Lol. This a joke or what?

Cars, phones and computers evolved randomly themselves Abi? Nobody put them together?

Humans evolved an enlarged brain, an opposing thumb for making tool and and an upright posture to be able to survive in the hostile savannah of Africa

ROTFLMAO

Hostile Savannah Africa?
What about other parts of Africa that are not hostile or Savannah, what did they evolve to adapt to their surroundings?
We have like 7 continents in the world today, each region with its unique environment factors, why are people living in these various regions not evolving different things?

They all are said to evolve from a common ancestor.

Where's the testable evidence?

Birds evolved wings and flight, elephants evolved size and strength, other apes evolved strength and powerful long limbs to aid its tree dwelling habitat.
Different species evolve different organs and abilities to suit its survival according to environmental factors.

Oh now I got your points.

When fish first enter water, it couldn't breathe. It had to survive, so it started growing and evolving gills. That's great.

Humans and some animals for example started evolving their teeth do that they could eat. Cool

Before, birds were just like rats with beak but because of environmental factors, they decided to start growing and evolving wings and gbera.

The list goes on and on


"It takes more faith to believe in evolution than to believe in a creator".

FatherOfJesus:
So how do you explain fossils, drug resistance, variations, extinction and the radiometric dating evidence?

The funny thing is some scientists do believe in God.

cornelboy:

The funny thing is some scientists do believe in God.

That's not the question I asked

FatherOfJesus:
That's not the question I asked

I know

cornelboy:

Lol. This a joke or what?
Cars, phones and computers evolved randomly themselves Abi? Nobody put them together?
ROTFLMAO
Hostile Savannah Africa?
What about other parts of Africa that are not hostile or Savannah, what did they evolve to adapt to their surroundings?
We have like 7 continents in the world today, each region with its unique environment factors, why are people living in these various regions not evolving different things?
Where's the testable evidence?
Oh now I got your points.
When fish first enter water, it couldn't breathe. It had to survive, so it started growing and evolving gills. That's great.
Humans and some animals for example started evolving their teeth do that they could eat. Cool
Before, birds were just like rats with beak but because of environmental factors, they decided to start growing and evolving wings and gbera.
The list goes on and on
"It takes more faith to believe in evolution than to believe in a creator".

The highlighted is why i left atheism back then!
This people thought they're wiser than others who believes in an unseen Creator but then it takes more faith to believe their evolution than a Creator, in fact you must dismiss lots of questions in other to embrace evolution.
Another hilarious part is when some of them claims they have testable evidence!
The simple truth has been explained in the Bible when God said a spirit being introduced rebellion to the first human pair. So atheism stem from rebellion against the SUPREME BEING in order for lawless people to do away with conscience so they don't have to obey any rule conscientiously until they see how monstrous and fearful the one ordering them no matter how reasonable or benefitial such orders as long as they're not threatened they just want to believe they can choose the other side without feelings of guilt!

Most of them feels it's only religious people that should take beliefs seriously while they will be the ones ridiculing what religionists believes but when they meet me it's the other way around because i often make them see how daft their BELIEVE (TRUST) in evolution really sound!

IN THE TIME BEING, GOD LOVES THEM THE WAY THEY'RE.

TO BE PERPETUAL DEMONS THAT'S WHY THEY'RE CREATED UNTIL CHRIST COME BACK.

cornelboy:

I know

So why are deviating from the question?

You don't want to discuss it?

FatherOfJesus:
So why are deviating from the question?
You don't want to discuss it?

It's pointless.

cornelboy:

It's pointless.

Instead of searching for God with all their heart the same way they does for money they feel God must come to their room in person because they're important than others so since God never come to ask them what they want they're determined to erase God from the minds of others, and when that seems impossible they'll begin ridiculing others and their faith in God even throwing tantrums out of frustration.
What costs him to speak politely with everyone he knows about God so that the questions in his minds could be answered?
Instead he thought by ridiculing God he can convince others so he is claiming God!

cornelboy:

It's pointless.

are you allergic to genuine discuss and the truth?

FatherOfJesus:
are you allergic to genuine discuss and the truth?

Truth that your a family of ape?

cornelboy:

Truth that your a family of ape?

Truth that humans are apes

FatherOfJesus:
Truth that humans are apes

Truth that you evolved from ape to human

cornelboy:

Truth that you evolved from ape to human

Truth is that you are just too ignorant to start a discussion with. My 10 year old is far more knowledgeable that you. He can at least name all the six continents. He is even aware that fish and other marine creatures came before land animals and would never say "when fish first enter water."

You guys attempt to hide your absolute ignorance with religion and dogmas.

wirinet:

Truth is that you are just too ignorant to start a discussion with. My 10 year old is far more knowledgeable that you

How did you know that?

He can at least name all the six continents.

I think your both lacking knowledge. There are 7 continents in the world. I've known that since when I was about his age.

He is even aware that fish and other marine creatures came before land animals

That's what the Bible says.

and would never say "when fish first enter water."

No human is above mistake and besides English is not my mother's tongue. I never Yoruba finish sef

You guys attempt to hide your absolute ignorance with religion and dogmas.

Let's see who's ignorant.

I asked you this question;
"If humans evolved from animals-from apes, for example-why is there such a huge gap between the intellectual abilities of humans and those of apes?"
Your reply;

"Humans evolved an enlarged brain,

Sperm whale for example has the largest brain and yet their intellectual abilities is same as other small fishes.
That means that the size of brain doesn't matter.
Pls where'd got all these your assumptions from?

an opposing thumb for making tool and and an upright posture to be able to survive in the hostile savannah of Africa"

Ridiculous
So the people in hostile Savannah of Africa felt like they needed to make tools and they started growing the opposite thumb just like that ROTFLMAO.

Why haven't we been evolving new things since then?
It'd be great if we started evolving wings and fly na

Are you also saying that the human race started in Africa?

cornelboy:

Sperm whale for example has the largest brain and yet their intellectual abilities is same as other small fishes.
That means that the size of brain doesn't matter.
Pls where'd got all these your assumptions from?

Intelligence is determined by brain to weight ratio rather than absolute brain size.
https://www.sciencefocus.com/nature/why-arent-animals-with-larger-brains-more-intelligent-than-us/amp/

Ridiculous
So the people in hostile Savannah of Africa felt like they needed to make tools and they started growing the opposite thumb just like that ROTFLMAO.

Not people, Hominids in Africa evolved bi-pedalism (upright stance), opposing thumb among other features for survival among the tall grass of the Savannah. His hands became free to do other tasks apart from walking.

Why haven't we been evolving new things since then?
It'd be great if we started evolving wings and fly na

Evolution is a very slow process and is driving by environmental factors. You can never notice evolution within one generation and even within 10 generations. As the environment change, a creature must be able to evolve to cope, else the creature will become extinct.
Evolving wings will not aid our survival. We would need to lose bone mass and start living on trees or mountain tops.

Are you also saying that the human race started in Africa?

Are you telling me you are not aware that all humans came from Africa?

cornelboy:

Truth that you evolved from ape to human

all of us did

FatherOfJesus:
all of us did

That's your believe.

wirinet:

Intelligence is determined by brain to weight ratio rather than absolute brain size.
https://www.sciencefocus.com/nature/why-arent-animals-with-larger-brains-more-intelligent-than-us/amp/

I checked all the sites including sciencefocus.com , there are still a lot of inconsistencies.

If humans brain to body ratio is 1:50, what are the brain to body ratio of other apes. I didn't see it on the net.
I don't think the brain to body ratio of apes should exceed 1:60-1:80. It can't still explain the reason why there's huge gap between humans intellectual abilities and those of apes.

Not people, Hominids in Africa evolved bi-pedalism (upright stance), opposing thumb among other features for survival among the tall grass of the Savannah. His hands became free to do other tasks apart from walking.

Love your fairy tales. They are ridiculous tbh.

Evolution is a very slow process and is driving by environmental factors. You can never notice evolution within one generation and even within 10 generations. As the environment change, a creature must be able to evolve to cope, else the creature will become extinct.
Evolving wings will not aid our survival. We would need to lose bone mass and start living on trees or mountain tops.

How you guys were able to know what happened millions of years ago is what I'm still wondering about

Are you telling me you are not aware that all humans came from Africa?

It would remain a theory. It can't be proved as facts.

There are how many continents in the world today, 6 or 7?

cornelboy:

That's your believe.

That's what evidence says. It doesn't matter if you like it or not.
Can you disprove the evidence?

FatherOfJesus:
That's what evidence says. It doesn't matter if you like it or not.
Can you disprove the evidence?

Where's is the evidence