Kobojunkie:
You no read the book?

Again, by what standard are we to judge these things here?

LordReed:
It was you who said the Hebrew nation had the right so I am asking you if those rights extend to other nations and if those rights covered genocide and land grabbing.

ToyBoyAaron:
They attacked their enemies and slaughtered everyone; men, women, children and even animals following the command of God. Will God really command men to kill their fellow men and even innocent children? This children didn't have a choice yet but they paid dearly with their lives. This wasn't Islamic terrorist or crusaders but the chosen people of God. Israelites! (1st Samuel 15) Many will justify the killings and say God is always right. So why are we condemning people today who are killing according to the command of their God?
Any extremists in any religion is capable of killing! Killing even innocent babies.

Kobojunkie:
Yes, it did have right as a nation to do so. Other Nations did pretty much the same as history records it.

So?

LordReed:
So to be clear, your god gave the Hebrew nations the right to commit genocide and land annexation and extended this right to other nations?

Kobojunkie:
Again...You no read the book?

Again, by what standard are we to judge these things here?

LordReed:


The standard you are using.

LordReed:
...

Kobojunkie:
Then case closed.

LordReed:
So I take it your final word is the god gave the Hebrews the right to commit genocide, annex land and extended that right to other nations.

Kobojunkie:
My final word? Na me write wetin dey for inside the book or what?.

LordReed:
Na you write for Nairaland. And wetin you write be say, una god give Hebrew people right to kill and comot people for dem land plus he comes give other tribe the same right.

Kobojunkie:
Israelites there refers to those of the Nation of Israel with the same rights as any other government in this world.

Kobojunkie:

I believe below is my exact statement.

LordReed:


Nations have the right to perform genocide? Nations have the right to annex land that is being held by other Nations?

Kobojunkie:
You mean even over the last 2000 years ago, your UN was there to ensure nations didn't carry out genocides or annex land being held by other Nations?

LordReed:


So because no one stopped them it was a right?

Kobojunkie:
By what standard do you judge these things?

LordReed:


The standard you are using.

Kobojunkie:
The standard I live by is God's. So again, by what standard are we to judge these things here.

LordReed:


So it was god who gave them the right to commit genocide and annex other people's lands? God extends this to all nations?

LordReed:

And my question was:
Your response
And mine
Yours
Mine
Yours
Mine
Seems quite clear to me that you imply that your god gave the Hebrew the right to go perform genocide and land annexation but you have the chance once more to clarify where that right you claim they have came from.

Kobojunkie:
According to the book, God constituted the Nation of Israel, and gave them Law .i.e. a Constitution which bestowed on them the right to act as any other Nation would.

It is written nowhere in History that genocides and land annexation were committed only by only the Nation Israel at even that point in time or any other.

LordReed:
So the god gave them the right to commit genocide and land annexation just like every other nation that was doing the same.

Image123:


You largely miss the point. Whose god is commanding them to go on killing sprees, because muslins you seem to refer to deny this and do not practice it.

ToyBoyAaron:

If I understand ma die

Image123:


If you don't understand me, how can you understand the Word of God that is not understood by the flesh?

ToyBoyAaron:
They attacked their enemies and slaughtered everyone; men, women, children and even animals following the command of God. Will God really command men to kill their fellow men and even innocent children? This children didn't have a choice yet but they paid dearly with their lives. This wasn't Islamic terrorist or crusaders but the chosen people of God. Israelites! (1st Samuel 15) Many will justify the killings and say God is always right. So why are we condemning people today who are killing according to the command of their God?
Any extremists in any religion is capable of killing! Killing even innocent babies.

ToyBoyAaron:
Train a child in the way he should go and when he's old he won't depart from it. That's what religion is. No reasoning. Accept what you're told and defend it. That's just a few of stuff I have issues with in the bible(justifying what's wrong) . "I believe in God, but take religion out of it." Morgan Freeman. The most terrible people I have come across with are religious. Go on a personal journey and discover God for yourself because religion was created out of human greed.

ToyBoyAaron:

Who's name are Islamic terrorist killing for?

Image123:


Whose name are our politicians stealing for?

Kobojunkie:
The Way referred to by David in that Psalm is actually a referncef to the Law of Moses aka the National Constitution given to the State of Israel by God. In essence, what God required was that everyone in the land be trained to obey the Law of the land so that they all live as law abiding citizens in the end.

Surely, you can see how that makes sense even to your non-religious mind.

Kobojunkie:
Considering what is written, it seems that way.

Would you have preferred if they has written that there God had instead given them a Constitution that limited them in ways others nations weren't?

LordReed:
So one nation says god said we can commit genocide and another nation commits genocide for their own reasons, what's the difference between them?

ToyBoyAaron:

If you're talking about obeying what doesn't make sense I am out

ToyBoyAaron:

This is about religion sir.. The leaders use religion to subdue and blind while they take what they want.. We will be busy fighting for God.

Kobojunkie:
Why do you seek a difference between them in these things though?

LordReed:
Because the bible said the Hebrew nation was supposed to be a "crown jewel"?

“Therefore be careful to observe them; for this is your wisdom and your understanding in the sight of the peoples who will hear all these statutes, and say, ‘Surely this great nation is a wise and understanding people.’ For what great nation is there that has God so near to it, as the LORD our God is to us, for whatever reason we may call upon Him?’” (Deuteronomy 4:5-7)

Kobojunkie:
So did the people ever get around to carefully obeying the Laws as commanded so the other nations could see them as a wise and understanding people ?

ToyBoyAaron:
Train a child in the way he should go and when he's old he won't depart from it. That's what religion is. No reasoning. Accept what you're told and defend it. That's just a few of stuff I have issues with in the bible(justifying what's wrong) . "I believe in God, but take religion out of it." Morgan Freeman. The most terrible people I have come across with are religious. Go on a personal journey and discover God for yourself because religion was created out of human greed.