GrammarNazi1:

The Benin kingdom killed some white men and the kingdom was punished. This does not prove that the Benin kingdom was the most civilised in Nigeria, though it was civilised and organised.

raumdeuter:


You don't have to dethrone to water down, all you need to elevate others and govt give them relevance

In Yorubaland there were very few Obas before. I think it was 60s or 70s that even Ibadan throne and others were elevated to full Obas. To reduce the influence of Alaafin who was supposed to be the biggest king

Traditionally Ooni was not a king, he was like a priest until someone decided to cut the influence of Alaafin because of the then Alaafin issue with Bode Thomas an Action Group member they elevated the Ooni throne under Adesoji Aderemi who was Governor General of the western region

BlueRayDick:


That’s why I said it is disengagious to compare the Benin situation with what obtains in other parts of the country . Most communities in Nigeria have more than one ruling house .

The Binis have just one ruling house . How will a governor create multiple ruling houses ?

OasisX:




.....e dey vex me if Facebook na reference point. Facebook ke? People still dey use the app like that? LOL!

raumdeuter:


He doesn't need to create others, he will simply elevate existing chiefs and give them more power, reduce funding to Oba and share with others too

raumdeuter:


Post the letter again for BlueRayDick to see

This was the same Ajimobi template in Ibadan. Elevate other chiefs

It's like instead of Arsenal have Odegaard as sole captain , now say Harvetz is captain of attack, Gabriel is captain of defence, Declan is captain of DM, Raya captain of goalkeeping

You have ended watering down Odegaard influence and power

TrebleChamp:
I told you i was living Benin City when it happened, i witness the drama live. That screenshot was just to buttress my initial point that the Military Governor apologised to the Oba after body don tell am ofcourse, if others are struggling to deduce the message you shouldn't be.

raumdeuter:


You don't have to dethrone to water down, all you need to elevate others and govt give them relevance

In Yorubaland there were very few Obas before. I think it was 60s or 70s that even Ibadan throne and others were elevated to full Obas. To reduce the influence of Alaafin who was supposed to be the biggest king

Traditionally Ooni was not a king, he was like a priest until someone decided to cut the influence of Alaafin because of the then Alaafin issue with Bode Thomas an Action Group member they elevated the Ooni throne under Adesoji Aderemi who was Governor General of the western region

BlueRayDick:


How does that now make the Oba not remaining as the Oba ? How does that make the next Oba come from another family and not the family of the Oba he just dethroned ?

Balogunodua:


They prolly wishing

Do you know why the Benin did what they did then....this is Fienberg review of Ryders work Benin and the Europeans 1485-1897

raumdeuter:


Oba will still be Oba but with less power and influence and what's an Oba without the power?



There will be Oba of Bini, Theflint1 of Ikpoba(a part under the Oba rule but taken away from him), Segedinho of GRA etc until the power of Oba is greatly reduced

Why do you think BTC wrote against it? That's because they know that na from clap dance dey start

BlueRayDick:


This has always been my position in this matter .

Every other thing is a matter of subjectivity and perception . It is subject to how individuals perceive it.

The people of the town/kingdom know whole their loyalty lies with. Politicians will always be politicians

BlueRayDick:


This has always been my position in this matter .

Every other thing is a matter of subjectivity and perception . It is subject to how individuals perceive it.

The people of the town/kingdom know whom their loyalty lies with. Politicians will always be politicians

Balogunodua:


They didn't invade anything...what they did was punish the kingdom for killing one of their own. Pure punishment

raumdeuter:


Then you'll now ask what is Oba without power, when his influence is restricted

When Oba can say this and the other elevated chief can say another with govt backing them

Soon they'll have their own palace, escort, Prado jeeps

GrammarNazi1:

The Old Oyo Empire was the most powerful and organised, with a system of government close to the modern system of government.

"The Oyo Empire’s government comprised a supreme king (Alaafin) and a council of seven elders (Oyo Mesi) which was led by the Bashorun. Thus, the Alaafin’s ruling powers were not absolute as he still had to answer to the Oyo Mesi—even the Oyo Mesi were subject to checks and balances by a judicial and religious cult called the Ogboni.

The Oyo Mesi essentially acted as a parliament, representing the voice of the people and protecting their interests. The Bashorun served as the commander in chief of Oyo’s army and organized several religious festivals, giving him some military and religious sway over the Alaafin. For instance, the Bashorun was in charge of managing the important Orun festival, during which the Alaafin was unable to leave the palace due to ritual restrictions."

Amigoss:


Lmao 🤣

OasisX:


.....jarus has returned back to NL.

Balogunodua:


They prolly wishing

Do you know why the Benin did what they did then....this is Fienberg review of Ryders work Benin and the Europeans 1485-1897

Balogunodua:


You have no case 😁😜

Amigoss:

Amigoss:


Which invasion pass this one

When they arrived, the British didn't just annex.

They pillaged.

They destroyed.

One historian wrote that the British "scorched the earth with rockets, fire and mines."

They killed civilian men, women, and children.

With so much death, Benin City "reeked of human blood."

Balogunodua:


1485 The first European to visit what we now call Southern and Lagos Nigeria did so in 1470 and Lagos particularly....they didn't visit Benin until 1500. So where did you get this yapping from

Balogunodua:


The historian no get name?

Amigoss:


Oh yeah, guardian must be lying

Amigoss:


British forces & the maxim gun in action illustrated London News March 1897.

The Maxim gun was invented in 1884. It was not only the first fully automatic machine gun in the world but was an ultra modern weapon at the time....it was unleashed on Africans & Asians. It was used on Africans/Asians even before many Europeans knew of such a weapon.

OasisX:


.....jarus has returned back to NL.

raumdeuter:


What is his moniker