I cant stand to even read half of these posts !! People are so insensitive ! What if she was your sister, cousin or daughter, how would you feel then People sit behind their computers and spout s**t that they would never say in reality. This girl was a PERSON, a HUMAN BEING who needed help. But, it's ok for her to die because she was an addict How many of you KNOW an addict ?? Would you wish them death ?? Stop being so hateful !! It's not like she was a murderer !!

owo2390:

On the contrary, with the right dosage of THC, it is actually beneficial for the treatment of myriad of diseases and psychological illness. If the dosage is too high, then it's fatal.

Beneficial to who?

Those that have no diseases or illness that want to use it to get high?

Opus-deii:

I cant stand to even read half of these posts !! People are so insensitive ! What if she was your sister, cousin or daughter, how would you feel then People sit behind their computers and spout s**t that they would never say in reality. This girl was a PERSON, a HUMAN BEING who needed help. But, it's ok for her to die because she was an addict How many of you KNOW an addict ?? Would you wish them death ?? Stop being so hateful !! It's not like she was a murderer !!

Believe me, if it was my sister or whatever that decides to mess up her life by deciding to take drugs as AN ADULT, I would say FCK HER!

She would not even be in my life when I find out as I will cut her off once I find she is an addict that made the choice as an adult. I have no patience for moorons.

You have your mooronic fun, you pay for it!

Any child who I find out has experimented with drugs as an adult is off my will. I will not give my sweat to an ediot that will likely waste it. I would will it to the needy that had less advantage.

Ibime:

When people talk of Cannabis, they need to differentiate between regular weed (hi-grade) and skunk (purple haze). One is as harmless as alchohol whilst the other is as deadly as LSD.

As for those with nothing better to do than argue for eons about others expressing their regret at the passing of Amy Winehouse, get a life you lonely neurotic sados.

skunk isnt harmless, it contains up to 20% THC.

Opus-deii:

I cant stand to even read half of these posts !! People are so insensitive ! What if she was your sister, cousin or daughter, how would you feel then People sit behind their computers and spout s**t that they would never say in reality. This girl was a PERSON, a HUMAN BEING who needed help. But, it's ok for her to die because she was an addict How many of you KNOW an addict ?? Would you wish them death ?? Stop being so hateful !! It's not like she was a murderer !!

Calm down, this self flagellation has gone on too long. no one wishes her dead . . . she killed herself, even her mother saw that coming. The point of this thread should not be the usual useless wailing over an irresponsible adult . . . but picking the lessons that need to be learnt - do not smoke, drink or do drugs . . . dont even attempt to start. Just say no!

I dont know an addict, because i choose not to associate with one. Your choice of friends is an indirect reflection of your priorities in life.

Sagamite:

You are reetarded!

Who are you trying to Bshit? Sagamite? Your own God? You are trying to Bshit Sagamite, your God?

You are dumb.

You said Marijuana is harmless, and with the right dosage it is not addictive!

Cretin, you did not say Marijuana with the right dosage is harmless.

Now who is your teacher that Marijuana is harmful? Foool!

this old-for-nothing sad coffee-shop pinhead won't stop embarrassing himself on a public forum.
go and lie down - your acclaimed intelligence is a myth - i have smashed that myth into atoms.
i am your rabbi - will forever be. half the cube-root of my intelligence quotient is beyond you. if the gist is around orobo vs lepa. . . . .you are free to claim whatever you want in such senseless and meaningless ramble - but where intellectuals sit down to talk. . . . .you better be a maiguard outside with rain battering your forehead. pound for pound, you will be my official manservant who hand-washes my undies.

Ibime:

When people talk of Cannabis, they need to differentiate between regular weed (hi-grade) and skunk (purple haze). One is as harmless as alchohol whilst the other is as deadly as LSD.

As for those with nothing better to do than argue for eons about others expressing their regret at the passing of Amy Winehouse, get a life you lonely neurotic sados.

the resident nincompoop of nairaland(sagamite) doesn't know that. by the time i am done with him, he will commit hara-kiri.
i am warming up. . . .

davidylan:

Really? Even though THC binds to cannabinoid receptor type 1? CB1 having been shown to crosstalk with opioid receptor u₃?

then you are talking about the low-grade ones. . . . .please differentiate.

I have read some of the posts on this thread and have come to two conclusions:

1. Taking drugs aint good for you- Simples! I dont care how some posters try to justify their claims. It is not rocket science what Cocaine, heroein etc does to the human mind and the effects on our wellbeing. Some posters here are either reading too many left-wing blogs (and as a result coming to conclusions they do not understand themselves just to look cool) OR they are simply in denial and bringing up false arguements to explain behaviours they themselves engage in.

2. Amy Winehouse was undoubtedly a talented artist and she could have been bigger if she exercised some level of self discipline and reason. I am very sad at the loss of such a potential talent(funny I said potential, because she has already won grammies but she could have gone further). The truth, however,is no one was really was surprised at her demise, it was only a matter of time really!

She had help and she didnt take it, I think that instead of brickerring endlessly, her life should be used as an example to the youths that drugs generally destroys you!

viewlekan:

I have read some of the posts on this thread and have come to two conclusions:
1. Taking drugs aint good for you- Simples! I dont care how some posters try to justify their claims. It is not rocket science what Cocaine, heroein etc does to the human mind and the effects on our wellbeing. Some posters here are either reading too many left-wing blogs (and as a result coming to conclusions they do not understand themselves just to look cool) OR they are simply in denial and bringing up false arguements to explain behaviours they themselves engage in.

no one is saying taking drugs is good. . . . . .but some people out of their carelessness or the environment they were bred picked up the habit. . . became addicted to it. . . .so what do you do to them? condemn them, put them against the wall and have them shot?

coogar:

this old-for-nothing sad coffee-shop pinhead won't stop embarrassing himself on a public forum.
go and lie down - your acclaimed intelligence is a myth - i have smashed that myth into atoms.
i am your rabbi - will forever be. half the cube-root of my intelligence quotient is beyond you. if the gist is around orobo vs lepa. . . . .you are free to claim whatever you want in such senseless and meaningless ramble - but where intellectuals sit down to talk. . . . .you better be a maiguard outside with rain battering your forehead. pound for pound, you will be my official manservant who hand-washes my undies.

the resident nincompoop of nairaland(sagamite) doesn't know that. by the time i am done with him, he will commit hara-kiri.
i am warming up. . . .

then you are talking about the low-grade ones. . . . .please differentiate.

You are reetarded!

That is all you got after I shredded your argument that Marijuana is harmless? Was that your intellectual contribution?  

Foool, more to come from your Alpha and Omega!

BlueDiva:

Are you daft or you just feel the need to be heard(read)?

Nobody said popularity equates to touching lives.
Amy had her fans. You know how many young kids would have been motivated to pursue their dreams in music just by hearing Amy"s songs?

You dont have to find a cure to HIV before you would have been said to have touched lives dummy.

There's enough display of tantrums on this thread as it is, the last thing I want to do is indulge a disconsolate being who by all means, needs to vent her/his distress due to the death of a strange-looking crackhead she considers a role model.

If that line was not intended to equate her fame with greatness, I ask, what was its relevance?  
Your point was?

''Amy has written her name in the history books'', and so flying what? She led herself to her grave and I'm supposed to be here ruing like you lot with farcical perception of success and greatness?
Your head nor correct.  

If you must know, Amy was to me, a specimen to hold up to young'uns cautioning them exactly what not to be and whom not to emulate, and when I heard of her death, not a single phock was given from me. If this hurts you or makes your head spin, do get some drugs and help yourself; you should feel better afterwards, just like Amy. Yeye worry you!  

As earlier stated, it's a shame and BlueDiva, you, my dear, are a bigger shame. Over and out!  

viewlekan:

I have read some of the posts on this thread and have come to two conclusions:

1. Taking drugs aint good for you- Simples! I dont care how some posters try to justify their claims. It is not rocket science what Cocaine, heroein etc does to the human mind and the effects on our wellbeing. Some posters here are either reading too many left-wing blogs (and as a result coming to conclusions they do not understand themselves just to look cool) OR they are simply in denial and bringing up false arguements to explain behaviours they themselves engage in.

2. Amy Winehouse was undoubtedly a talented artist and she could have been bigger if she exercised some level of self discipline and reason. I am very sad at the loss of such a potential talent(funny I said potential, because she has already won grammies but she could have gone further). The truth, however,is no one was really was surprised at her demise, it was only a matter of time really!

She had help and she didnt take it, I think that instead of brickerring endlessly, her life should be used as an example to the youths that drugs generally destroys you!

A reetard thinks if you drive it is as bad as taking crack. And he calls himself intellectual.

Sagamite:

A reetard thinks if you drive it is as bad as taking crack. And he calls himself intellectual.

you are a tool. . . . . .a hopeless tool who needs to die to be reborn cos you are a waste of human flesh.
read me well. . . . .the risk surrounding driving is the same risk as taking crack. people die driving, people die taking crack.
if your brain-cells cannot process that - then you need to donate your brain - somebody else will find a better use.

Sagamite:

You are reetarded!
That is all you got after I shredded your argument that Marijuana is harmless? Was that your intellectual contribution?  

Foool, more to come from your Alpha and Omega!

you can go hang yourself, old tool. . . .
marijuana is harmless!

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another lecture, puddenhead! just another one.

coogar:

no one is saying taking drugs is good. . . . . .but some people out of their carelessness or the environment they were bred picked up the habit. . . became addicted to it. . . .so what do you do to them? condemn them, put them against the wall and have them shot?

That is precisely the problem engaging in drugs in the first place bro, I think the effort should be directed at aviodance rather than justifying or rationalising the merits/demerits of taking drugs.

You asked what do you to them if they take it and become addicted? Excellent but complex question! Amy's dad did absolutely everything to help her to no avail. This man even passionately appealed to her suppliers on TV, the reality is once you are hooked, it becomes exponentially difficult to get off it.

Hence, my arguement that trying to rationalise any advantages derived from drugs is counter-intuitive and daft in my opinion.

@Davidylan - if you don't know what an addict is, stop being a judge, jury and God, cos you did not walk in her shoes to understand her struggle.

I just don't understand why people would be so horrible to a deceased woman because she struggled with drugs and alcohol.  No one picks up a drink with the thought: "Wow, I can't wait to be an uncontrollable whino who dies at 35 from liver failure." or "Hey, this joint is awesome, I can't wait to become a crackhead next!"

It's a casual drink at a party, a misguided friend passing a joint to help ease the pain of a death in the family, it's the insecure teen too afraid to tell her friends "no, I'm not going to do that", for fear of being disliked. It's someone doing it, because Daddy did it, first. All it takes is one time, sometimes, and it grabs hold of you and destroys who you are. But, that doesn't make you a piece of trash. It doesn't make you a bad person. It makes you someone who needs help. Not the eyes of the world gawking at your collapse and then mocking your death. People like that are far worse than an addict will ever be.

Mocking someone who died of a drug overdose, is like mocking someone who died of AIDS, because they had unprotected sex one time with someone they loved. They didn't know where it would lead them. No one does it expecting to become a drunk or an addict. It's even sadder in this case, because Amy TRIED to get clean, several times. She made the right steps. She got rid of Blake Fielder who was dragging her down. She went to rehab. She tried living healthier. But, because of the demand of who she is, the monster known as fame, drug her right back into the same environment she needed to escape for good. Right back to the same enablers. The same people who drink or do a line of coke in a studio session. She fought the war. She doesn't deserved to be mocked by people who have no understanding of the struggle, so they think they're better than those who have been in the struggle.

coogar:

you are a tool. . . . . .a hopeless tool who needs to die to be reborn cos you are a waste of human flesh.
read me well. . . . .the risk surrounding driving is the same risk as taking crack. people die driving, people die taking crack.
if your brain-cells cannot process that - then you need to donate your brain - somebody else will find a better use.

you can go hang yourself, old tool. . . .
marijuana is harmless!

another lecture, puddenhead! just another one.

You are a cretin!

You provide a video detailing marijuana can have medicinal qualities for people that need treatment to back up a moronic argument that casual marijuana usage is harmless?

Product of a failed education!  

My taking crack is like driving.

That is what they term as a Professional person!

Sagamite:

You are a cretin!
You provide a video detailing marijuana can have medicinal qualities for people that need treatment to back up a moronic argument that casual marijuana usage is harmless?
Product of a failed education!  
My taking crack is like driving.
That is what they term as a Professional person!

how can the same drug that is harmful also medicinal for people needing treatment? sagamite, it seems you skipped logic class in school. i have always known you as a tool - i just didn't know your tomfoolery has depths jacques cousteau wouldn't dare reach.
you are a laboratory simpleton.

taking crack is as bad as driving. . . . .if you don't like the fact that i am shittting on your head, pull a gun to your head and dieeeee. . . .
another small lecture for a geriatric tool.


sagamite, i am warming up. . . . .unlike you. . . i back my claims with facts.
yours are backed by screaming like a rhesus monkey on viagra.

i am warming up. . . . . .when next you see me, run for your hopeless life.

coogar:

then you are talking about the low-grade ones. . . . .please differentiate.

Come again? Differentiate what from what? A substance with 20% THC content is not much different from one with 90% THC. The difference is how much you need to smoke to get high.

Opus-deii:

@Davidylan - if you don't know what an addict is, stop being a judge, jury and God, cos you did not walk in her shoes to understand her struggle.

So the only those who know an addict have the right to tell us that we shld simply say no to drugs? If you know someone on drugs then you need to re-evaluate your circle of friends. My closest friend in college was a chain smoker when we first met him in second yr. Within 2 months he had quit for good thanks to positive pressure. today he is glad to be smoke free going on 9 yrs now. If you have no positive influence on your friends then there is something wrong with you.

Opus-deii:

I just don't understand why people would be so horrible to a deceased woman because she struggled with drugs and alcohol.  No one picks up a drink with the thought: "Wow, I can't wait to be an uncontrollable whino who dies at 35 from liver failure." or "Hey, this joint is awesome, I can't wait to become a crackhead next!"

Daft. But everyone is old enough to know that:

1. drink and drugs are highly addictive

2. Once you make a choice to do drugs, dont be surprised when others are critical of that choice.

Opus-deii:

It's a casual drink at a party, a misguided friend passing a joint to help ease the pain of a death in the family, it's the insecure teen too afraid to tell her friends "no, I'm not going to do that", for fear of being disliked. It's someone doing it, because Daddy did it, first. All it takes is one time, sometimes, and it grabs hold of you and destroys who you are. But, that doesn't make you a piece of trash. It doesn't make you a bad person. It makes you someone who needs help. Not the eyes of the world gawking at your collapse and then mocking your death. People like that are far worse than an addict will ever be.

But wait that's exactly what doing drugs make you . . .

- trash, aging way before your time, wasting away thanks to malnourishment, multiple diseases, shortened life span and a horribly bad influence to others more impressionable who are going to do it because YOU do it and pretend its cool without telling them all the pain and sorrow that accompany it.

- and no, those who point out your flaws are NOT mocking you, simply trying to prevent another misguided fool from going down that path. They are not worse than the addict, at least they wont be dying of emphysema at 27.

Opus-deii:

Mocking someone who died of a drug overdose, is like mocking someone who died of AIDS, because they had unprotected sex one time with someone they loved. They didn't know where it would lead them. No one does it expecting to become a drunk or an addict. It's even sadder in this case, because Amy TRIED to get clean, several times. She made the right steps. She got rid of Blake Fielder who was dragging her down. She went to rehab. She tried living healthier. But, because of the demand of who she is, the monster known as fame, drug her right back into the same environment she needed to escape for good. Right back to the same enablers. The same people who drink or do a line of coke in a studio session. She fought the war. She doesn't deserved to be mocked by people who have no understanding of the struggle, so they think they're better than those who have been in the struggle.

Now its quite clear that you're just another in the long line of ignorant babblers here . . .

It's even sadder in this case, because Amy TRIED to get clean, several times. She made the right steps. - No she didnt, go listen to her song "rehab". She was in rehab twice and quit within 3 days both times. Once was because she was caught snorting cocaine.

She got rid of Blake Fielder who was dragging her down. - No, Blake dumped her for his ex-girlfriend and then came back into her life a few months later only to go get married to him despite her father's pleas.

She went to rehab. She tried living healthier. - In your dreams. In her song "rehab", this was what she had to say to those who urged her to seek help . . . no no no.

But, because of the demand of who she is, the monster known as fame, drug her right back into the same environment she needed to escape for good. Right back to the same enablers. The same people who drink or do a line of coke in a studio session. - Now its all the fault of her "enablers"? You mean her management who had to cancel shows so many times to accomodate her habit? the same guys who put her in rehab so many times so she could get clean? At what point do we start to hold a 27 yr old responsible for her own decisions?
Andrea Bocelli, Sade Adu, even Justin Bieber are all famous musicians . . . they are not binging on coke just yet so pls spare us that ridiculous nonsense about it all being unable to handle fame. If a 16 yr old can then whats the excuse for a 27 yr old? Is Chris Brown over 23 yet? Why havent we seen him staggering like a drug-addled dope on stage yet?

She fought the war. She doesn't deserved to be mocked by people who have no understanding of the struggle, so they think they're better than those who have been in the struggle. - She didnt fight any war neither was she in any struggle, enough of the false romanticism of the dead. Her mother warned her, her father threatened Blake . . . she said no no no.

coogar:

how can the same drug that is harmful also medicinal for people needing treatment? sagamite, it seems you skipped logic class in school. i have always known you as a tool - i just didn't know your tomfoolery has depths jacques cousteau wouldn't dare reach.
you are a laboratory simpleton.

taking crack is as bad as driving. . . . .if you don't like the fact that i am shittting on your head, pull a gun to your head and dieeeee. . . .
another small lecture for a geriatric tool.

sagamite, i am warming up. . . . .unlike you. . . i back my claims with facts.
yours are backed by screaming like a rhesus monkey on viagra.

i am warming up. . . . . .when next you see me, run for your hopeless life.

You are a reetard!

There are elements of virtually all drugs that can be useful for medicinal production, that does not mean if you are using them recreationally they are not harmless. Mooron!

You can teach your kids that it is better for them to take crack than to drive with your reetarded logic.

Your brain is still contaminated with faeces due to its location that is why you still do not get the concept of need and balancing with risk.

Mooron, because more people have died at sea than taking crack means crack is not that bad. Professional person!

Worse still you back up your moronic argument with data about absolute numbers. How many youths drive and how many take drugs?

You gut me busting out loud with your "i back my claims with facts". You really are a cretin!

I think that in this life everyone has a choice, to do or not to do, to take or not to take!
The funny thing is dat life in most cases gives us a second chance and maybe a third and fourth.
Like you and I, Amy Winehouse had a choice and unfortunately she choose wrongly.
She had a second chance and still didnt take it.
I knew it was just a matter of time when I saw her dad pleading with her suppliers to stop supplying her.
It simply meant the girl was unstopable.
I mean for goodness sake, who doesnt know dat crack will end up killing you. So why start at all.
I am not celebrating her death, not at all!
I am just pointing out the obvious that the girl took the long lonely road to self destruction and never looked back.

davidylan:

Come again? Differentiate what from what? A substance with 20% THC content is not much different from one with 90% THC. The difference is how much you need to smoke to get high.

lemme just assume you are not a science student cos if you are. . . .and you think 20% thc content is not different to 90% thc, then it's either you are on a wind-up or just ignorant.

mind you, i have always maintained moderation is the key. virtually every drug is toxic but with moderation and the right dosage, the effects are non-existent or too insignificant to cause any fatality. majority of americans are taking pot everyday and they are unaffected.

Sagamite:

You are a reetard!

There are elements of virtually all drugs that can be useful for medicinal production, that does not mean if you are using them recreationally they are not harmless. Mooron!

You can teach your kids that it is better for them to take crack than to drive with your reetarded logic.

Your brain is still contaminated with faeces due to its location that is why you still do not get the concept of need and balancing with risk.

Mooron, because more people have died at sea than taking crack means crack is not that bad. Professional person!

Worse still you back up your moronic argument with data about absolute numbers. How many youths drive and how many take drugs?

You gut me busting out loud with your "i back my claims with facts". You really are a cretin!

i almost wept when i saw this reply. . . . .lord sagamite boxed into a corner and flipping his tail aimlessly with soft punches and dying embers of light leaving his diseased body.

you are a tool, will always be a tool and if care ain't taken - will die a fool.
the thing is, you keep shifting positions every minute. coogar's points are these. . .

---taking marijuana is not irresponsible. . . .abusing it is the irresponsibility.

now you are saying heroin and lsd are medicinal? were you born a pillock? i have never seen so much tripe come out of the mouth of an adult. makes me think what you call a mouth is actually a cesspit.

how many youths drive and how many take drugs? look at this idiot. . . .even after showing you a graphical image to help in your slow understanding, you still failed to grasp the message behind it. the risks surrounding driving is higher than the risks attached to taking any kind of drugs. now you remember balancing the risks - something i made clear several pages ago that missed your empty vessel you called a head.

you really need help. . . . .davidylan has more braincells than you - at least he's got credible points in this debate. whereas, you as a cow keep screaming reeeeetard, cretin and mor0n - i just hope you were not verbally abused as a child cos the common usage of these words is suspicious.
take it or leave it - you can never engage me in a battle of wits. dem nor born you with that kinda silver spoon - cut the facade.

jaw jaw:

I think that in this life everyone has a choice, to do or not to do, to take or not to take!
The funny thing is dat life in most cases gives us a second chance and maybe a third and fourth.
Like you and I, Amy Winehouse had a choice and unfortunately she choose wrongly.
She had a second chance and still didnt take it.
I knew it was just a matter of time when I saw her dad pleading with her suppliers to stop supplying her.
It simply meant the girl was unstopable.
I mean for goodness sake, who doesnt know dat crack will end up killing you. So why start at all.
I am not celebrating her death, not at all!
I am just pointing out the obvious that the girl took the long lonely road to self destruction and never looked back.

You start because it is safer than driving. It is more responsible to use crack (in the right dosage) than to drive. - Professional person Coogar (2011) 

coogar:

how can the same drug that is harmful also medicinal for people needing treatment? sagamite, it seems you skipped logic class in school. i have always known you as a tool - i just didn't know your tomfoolery has depths jacques cousteau wouldn't dare reach.

morphine, heroin, cannabis, methadone . . . all used in modern medicine yet hyper addictive to the casual user. Most terminal cancer patients can only survive the severe pain in their last days doped on morphine or heroin.

coogar:

lemme just assume you are not a science student cos if you are. . . .and you think 20% thc content is not different to 90% thc, then it's either you are on a wind-up or just ignorant.

mind you, i have always maintained moderation is the key. virtually every drug is toxic but with moderation and the right dosage, the effects are non-existent or too insignificant to cause any fatality. majority of americans are taking pot everyday and they are unaffected.

You are reetarded!

What quack school are you doing your science that you use conjectures as an argument.

Over 50% of Americans use pot?

What kind of dumb statement is that?

Product of a failed education!

coogar:

lemme just assume you are not a science student cos if you are. . . .and you think 20% thc content is not different to 90% thc, then it's either you are on a wind-up or just ignorant.

mind you, i have always maintained moderation is the key. virtually every drug is toxic but with moderation and the right dosage, the effects are non-existent or too insignificant to cause any fatality. majority of americans are taking pot everyday and they are unaffected.

Before i take on your idiocy here i would like to suggest you take a pharmocodynamics or pharmacology class before coming here to argue with me.

Just some elementary math:

Assume max serum content following one dose of a 90% THC-containing joint is 5 mg/ml (too high but again this is for analogy) and this concentration stays stable for 24 hrs (cannabis blood levels are relatively stable for a long period).

We can then assume that by direct proportion, if you take 4.5 times of a 20% THC-containing joint, you will reach the exact same max plasma concentration as smoking one 90% joint right?

The reason why your moderation claim doesnt hold water is simple, these drugs have extremely high binding affinity for their respective neuro-receptors (which is why you use methadone to deal with heroin addiction by competitive inhibition). A low dose may not elicit a reaction or be immediately addictive for months at a stretch, but very soon you will be upping that dose just to maintain the same effect.

davidylan:

morphine, heroin, cannabis, methadone . . . all used in modern medicine yet hyper addictive to the casual user. Most terminal cancer patients can only survive the severe pain in their last days doped on morphine or heroin.

administered in the same form the user takes it? davidylan, i have given you your credits on these pages - you are beginning to slip like the simpleton-in-chief(sagamite)

Sagamite:

You are reetarded!

What quack school are you doing your science that you use conjectures as an argument.

Over 50% of Americans use pot?

What kind of dumb statement is that?

Product of a failed education!

of course they do. . . . .whether they admit it or not is another issue for you to hang yourself nake[i]d[/i]

as at 2004, more than 40% of the population of americans have used it



it's estimated there are 2.1 million virgin users every year. . . .mr sagamite, do the projection and tell me what the numbers would be now.
i hate making you sound like a poof but i really cannot help it.

Its so easy to stand in judgement on a person and become judge jury and executioner when you have never attempted to do anything remotely interesting with your own life (davidylan).

Its so easy to pretend to have all the answers when all throughout your life all you've ever done is copy ad nauseam what has already done  before (davidylan)

mediocrity is celebrated as a desirable attribute whereas individuality, creativity, raw talent and genius is sneered at by people who have contributed nothing of note to humanity (davidylan)

Amy was a victim of a troubled upbringing - she was emotionally fragile, she was dependant on drugs and alcohol not because she was a reckless fool but because she saw it as a form of escapism from her troubled life.

MzDarkSkin:

was davidylan banned?

the silly spambot.

cap28:

Its so easy to stand in judgement on a person and become judge jury and executioner when you have never attempted to do anything remotely interesting with your own life (davidylan).

If that means doing drugs then my life has been very uninteresting. Give it a shot.

cap28:

Its so easy to pretend to have all the answers when all throughout your life all you've ever done is copy ad nauseam what has already done  before (davidylan)

Very true. I refuse to seek answers from drug lords and bottles of vodka. Like a family friend used to say, a wise man does not wait to fall before learning a lesson . . . he learns by looking at those ahead of him so he knows what to avoid.

cap28:

mediocrity is celebrated as a desirable attribute whereas individuality, creativity, raw talent and genius is sneered at by people who have contributed nothing of note to humanity (davidylan)

Myopic, dumb and incredulous.
Your idea of "individuality, creativity, raw talent and genius" is subjective. You can be all that without being an irresponsible drug-addict at the same time you know. I am a great fan of Andrea Bocelli's talent . . . just the same way i admire the creativity of the dudes at NASA. Stick to worshipping dumb idiots who drown their lives in alchohol.

cap28:

Amy was a victim of a troubled upbringing - she was emotionally fragile, she was dependant on drugs and alcohol not because she was a reckless fool but because she saw it as a form of escapism from her troubled life.

Yeah like the rest of us are emotionally strong and had about the best upbringing money can buy right? Many many success stories of folks coming from motherless babies homes who made it. She grew up the daughter of a pharmacist who could afford to put her in expensive art schools (if she didnt stop failing out) . . . she shld consider herself lucky. 90% of african children would never get that chance.

What's new?

coogar:

administered in the same form the user takes it? davidylan, i have given you your credits on these pages - you are beginning to slip like the simpleton-in-chief(sagamite)

Dumb. Morphine is usually administered in drip form, not much different from injecting it directly using a syringe right?

cap28:

Its so easy to stand in judgement on a person and become judge jury and executioner when you have never attempted to do anything remotely interesting with your own life (davidylan).

Its so easy to pretend to have all the answers when all throughout your life all you've ever done is copy ad nauseam what has already done  before (davidylan)

mediocrity is celebrated as a desirable attribute whereas individuality, creativity, raw talent and genius is sneered at by people who have contributed nothing of note to humanity (davidylan)

Amy was a victim of a troubled upbringing - she was emotionally fragile, she was dependant on drugs and alcohol not because she was a reckless fool but because she saw it as a form of escapism from her troubled life.

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cap28, come. . . . . .are you related to sigmund freud?

coogar:

lemme just assume you are not a science student cos if you are. . . .and you think 20% thc content is not different to 90% thc, then it's either you are on a wind-up or just ignorant.

mind you, i have always maintained moderation is the key. virtually every drug is toxic but with moderation and the right dosage, the effects are non-existent or too insignificant to cause any fatality. majority of americans are taking pot everyday and they are unaffected.

there are many factors that determine plasma concentration (Cpmax) when you take a drug.

1. Absorption - depending on bioavalability, you may get a higher Cpmax by injecting a larger volume 20% thc in liquid form than by inhaling a smaller amount of 90% thc

2. How much and for how long - you spend all day smoking 20% thc, you will certainly have a higher Cpmax compared to someone who only took a whiff of 90% thc.

geddit now? Its not that direct you know. That's why you have directions for taking drugs at the back of your packet . . . 2 tablets of panadol will contain 500 mg acetaminophen . . . but the Cpmax for a child is way way higher than that in an adult taking the exact same dose because of ADME factors.

davidylanI:

Dumb. Morphine is usually administered in drip form, not much different from injecting it directly using a syringe right?

don't sound too daft. . . . .when i said form, i didn't mean method of ingestion. i meant the content! the physical form!!!

coogar:

don't sound too daft. . . . .when i said form, i didn't mean method of ingestion. i meant the content! the physical form!!!

this is not an issue of being daft but you being deliberately vague. Be specific before bleating at others, i cant read ur mind. At least you know "form" can also mean method of ingestion.

What do you mean by "physical form"? The active ingredient remains the same right? Water either in gaseous or liquid form will always remain H20 at the molecular level right?

Whether you inhale heroin or take it by IV injection in the hospital, the AI binds the exact same opioid receptors right? The reason why i assumed your idea of "form" meant method of ingestion is simply because looking at it in terms of "physical form" is itself quite DAFT and indicative you really have a poor understanding of biology.

If you take panadol as a tablet or crush it and inhale . . . your blood stream sees the EXACT SAME acetaminophen . . . the only difference is the rate of absorption.

What was this guy trying to convey? These dudes just want to talk, almost zero understanding of what they argue about.

Form? What has physical form to do with how your body processes the exact same chemical compound in your blood stream?

coogar:

i almost wept when i saw this reply. . . . .lord sagamite boxed into a corner and flipping his tail aimlessly with soft punches and dying embers of light leaving his diseased body.

you are a tool, will always be a tool and if care ain't taken - will die a fool.
the thing is, you keep shifting positions every minute. coogar's points are these. . .

---taking marijuana is not irresponsible. . . .abusing it is the irresponsibility.

now you are saying heroin and lsd are medicinal? were you born a pillock? i have never seen so much tripe come out of the mouth of an adult. makes me think what you call a mouth is actually a cesspit.

how many youths drive and how many take drugs? look at this . . . .even after showing you a graphical image to help in your slow understanding, you still failed to grasp the message behind it. the risks surrounding driving is higher than the risks attached to taking any kind of drugs. now you remember balancing the risks - something i made clear several pages ago that missed your empty vessel you called a head.

you really need help. . . . .davidylan has more braincells than you - at least he's got credible points in this debate. whereas, you as a cow keep screaming reeeeetard, cretin and mor0n - i just hope you were not verbally abused as a child cos the common usage of these words is suspicious.
take it or leave it - you can never engage me in a battle of wits. dem nor born you with that kinda silver spoon - cut the facade.

You are a cretin!

Who are you trying to BShit?

How can you say taking something you claim is harmless is irresponsible to take? Something that you claim can not harm you?  

Professional person!

You are a cretin!

How did you arrive at your risk calculations?

Let, for a second, condescend to your mooronic level of thinking and ignore rational need (a concept your faeces infested brain can not grasp). What proportion of car drivers die, what proportion of drug users die? Worse still what proportion of drug abusers die compared to drivers? That is mooronically ignoring rational needs o.

Surely your argument must be "it is irresponsible to drive"? 

coogar:

administered in the same form the user takes it? davidylan, i have given you your credits on these pages - you are beginning to slip like the simpleton-in-chief(sagamite)

of course they do. . . . .whether they admit it or not is another issue for you to hang yourself nake[i]d[/i]

as at 2004, more than 40% of the population of americans have used it

I did say this was going to be easy and fun, didn't I?  

I warned the shredding was going to be casual, did I not?  

Explain to me what school you went to do your "science for ediots" that thought you that 40% is a majority?  

Lets even ignore the everyday aspect of your mooronic statement for now. 

I wait patiently.

coogar:




it's estimated there are 2.1 million virgin users every year. . . .mr sagamite, do the projection and tell me what the numbers would be now.
i hate making you sound like a poof but i really cannot help it.

Now, the population of the US is over 300m. Half of that conservative base estimate is (this will surprise a foool like you with cretinous maths ) 150m.

If 2.1m are virgin users every year, explain to me how many years it will take to get to that 150m, assuming a present frequent user population of even 20% (60m Americans).

Now, let me destroy your daft brain and factor in population growth.

Now explain the level of stewpidity it takes for a mooron (that claims he is studying science) to say majority Americans use marijuana every day. Majority every day?

What reetarded school is allowing you to do science?  

Professional person, who is your Alpha and Omega?