Onigawara:


A source that backs up your claim that Russian ICBM were designed to carry only nukes?

Meanwhile, even I can keep tabs on us naval fleets.... Not to talk of the Russians who have their own satellite. It is either you know nothing of modern technology, you're ignorant or just be a kid

It seems you have a comprehesion problems. I never said ICBM are designed to carry only nukes, But majority are stationed in the silos are for nukes.

Drenimarcus:


Little thing, southfront track US carriers everyday. https://southfront.org/iran-threatened-to-turn-us-aircraft-carriers-into-sinking-submarines-on-anniversary-of-soleimani-strike/

https://southfront.org/locations-of-us-british-chinese-french-and-russian-aircraft-carriers-september-12-2019/

Na e my guy bodly dey talk say it is impossible to track a moving ship?

BritishNaija:


It seems you have a comprehesion problems. I never said ICBM are designed to carry only nukes, But majority are stationed in the silos are for nukes.

Here is what you said
"All ICBM stationed by Russia and US are strictly for Nuclear Warhead."

Give me a source that backs up your claim that all stationed us and Russian ICBM are strictly for nukes. I await patiently

Drenimarcus:


Little thing, southfront track US carriers everyday. https://southfront.org/iran-threatened-to-turn-us-aircraft-carriers-into-sinking-submarines-on-anniversary-of-soleimani-strike/

https://southfront.org/locations-of-us-british-chinese-french-and-russian-aircraft-carriers-september-12-2019/

You are able to see this currently because their transpoders are on, As they move through international waters Which is mandatory, During wartime, those transponders are Switched off and you can't know their location, do i really need to explain everything?

BritishNaija:


You are able to see this currently because their transpoders are on, As they move through international waters Which is mandatory, During wartime, those transponders are Switched off and you can't know their location, do i really need to explain everything?

Okay sir.

Onigawara:


I mean what I said and I will stand my ground!
Aircraft carriers are literally sitting ducks.
This is not the era when ships were a force to reckon with.

In an all out war, do you realize that the Russians would be putting into use their intercontinental ballistic missiles?

Let's assume a scenario where russia launches a surprise attack, with their ICBM on the naval base where these ships are ducked. Like I said, aircraft carriers are very big ships which would make them a sitting duck. Russia literally sees where they are via satellite images. Meaning, strikes could be called upon them any time and anywhere. The funny thing is, befire russia does that, I mean we all know that Russia dominates in space. So I'd expect Russian space weapons to have taken out us satellites in space, leaving them totally dumbfounded.

If the USA chooses to sail the ships from their docks, and into the sea to reduce the risk of getting dunked, Russia can sent its destroyers and nuclear torpedo submarines after them. It is worth nothing that, just 5 hypersonic missiles could take down a US navy aircraft carriers and ten for the most advanced which is the USS Gerald.

This isn't the era when countries attack blindly without having proper intel on what they're dealing with. These days, there are satellites to monitor enemy movements and the number and capability of enemy you would be facing. Naval battle would be completely disastrous in the next warfare. Why?

Apart from submarines which moves deep in the sea, there's absolutely noway to mask your ship movement in the sea. On land, it is possible to transport military hardwares and troops at nights, without satellites seeing it. It is also possible to camouflage your equipments using trees and leaves.

Meanwhile on sea, moving aircraft carriers to and fro would be seen, giving your enemy the opportunity to set in place, the perfect counters for whatever you're bringing.

For instance, let's assume the USA is moving its naval fleet to attack Crimea or saints pertersburg. The Russians would see the movement glaring and transport bastion coastal anti ship missiles to the coastal cities of saints Petersburg and move too its destroyers, as well as anti submarine aircrafts. Russua would've known how many ships, the nature of the ships, the extimated arrival time and how to counter them. So they will set in place the perfect counter for the attack.


Let me ask you a question. When Japan surprised the US by attacking pearl harbor, we all know that they destroyed pretty much every ship that was docked in the naval base.
The question is, would the result have been the same if the USA knew that they would be attacked? Imagine satellites existed then, and the USA saw Japanese movement with aircraft carriers loaded with bombers and attack aircrafts and destroyers, wouldn't they have prepared for them? Would any of the Japanese ship had escaped that day? No, they would've been crushed

Stop wasting your time with folks that thrive on delusion.

All Aircraft careers are big, phat target just awaiting destructions. This is the age of Hypersonic missiles technology which renders all Aircraft career obsolete except against third world nations.

In 2006 during a US live fire exercise where all weapons and jamming technology are activated to test their capabilities, a Chinese Kilo-Class submarine emerged behind the US naval aircraft carrier after bypassing all the other accompany ships, and appeared at the rear of the carrier, which angered the US Navy so much. You know why? Because it means that supposing the sub decided to take out all of them, or the carrier alone, it could have done so easily, killing as much as 2000 men. The event also overwhelmingly dismissed the lie that no enemy surface or underwater vessel can reach a US Carrier strike group undetected before it would be destroyed.

And guess who produced that submarine--Russia.

In 2014, during another NATO live exercise, the French Navy sank the USS Theodore Roosevelt Fleet Carrier using a 30 year old submarine. The sub also took some accompanying ships with it . The French were so delighted in so much that they put the news on the French naval official website, and as the news broke out, the Americans were angry and the French quickly pulled down the news to save the US Navy the embarrassment.

But some of this kids here don't know about this, yet they are not willing to learn real facts.

And if you think it's over, you're lying.

Recently, during another NATO and allied forces exercise, Sweden sunk another US Carrier which was so embarrassing for the Americans. But these kids here don't know about these events because they delight only in news that glorify America, not the ones that points out it flaws, deception and failures.

The fact is, in this era of military technology, no single nation can claim overlord in all theaters of warefare. While you may be good in air attack, another is specialist in air defense, and so on and so forth.

But it's such unfortunate that the sheeples we have here on Nairaland thinks that the US is the alpha and omega of Military capability.

So, I usually leave most of them to bask in the folly of their ignorance and arrogance.

Appleyard:


Stop wasting your time with folks that thrive on delusion.

All Aircraft careers are big, phat target just awaiting destructions. This is the age of Hypersonic missiles technology which renders all Aircraft career obsolete except against third world nations.

In 2006 during a US live fire exercise where all weapons and jamming technology are activated to test their capabilities, a Chinese Kilo-Class submarine emerged behind the US naval aircraft carrier after bypassing all the other accompany ships, and appeared at the rear of the carrier, which angered the US Navy so much. You know why? Because it means that supposing the sub decided to take out all of them, or the carrier alone, it could have done so easily, killing as much as 2000 men. The event also overwhelmingly dismissed the lie that no enemy surface or underwater vessel can reach a US submarine undetected before it would be destroyed.

And guess who produced that submarine--Russia.

In 2014, during another NATO live exercise, the French Navy sank the USS Theodore Roosevelt Fleet Carrier using a 30 year old submarine. The sub also took some accompanying ships with it . The French were so delighted in so much that they put the news on the French naval official website, and as the news broke out, the Americans were angry and the French quickly pulled down the news to save the US Navy the embarrassment.

But some of this kids here don't know about this, yet they are not willing to learn real facts.

And if you think it's over, you're lying.

Recently, during another NATO and allied forces exercise, Sweden sunk another US Carrier which was so embarrassing for the Americans. But these kids here don't know about these events because they delight only in news that glorify America, not the ones that points out it flaws, deception and failures.

The fact is, in this era of military technology, no single nation can claim overlord in all theaters of warefare. While you may be good in air attack, another is specialist in air defense, and so on and so forth.

But it's such unfortunate that the sheeples we have here on Nairaland thinks that the US is the alpha and omega of Military capability.

So, I usually leave most of them to bask in the folly of their ignorance and arrogance.

I think it was a canadian ship actually
https://defence.pk/pdf/threads/dutch-submarine-sinks-half-of-us-navy-ctf-in-1990-and-more.142292/

redseason:

1) ICBMs are designed to carry both nuclear or conventional warheads.

2)Wrong! Carriers/ships are radar visible just like planes. Reason the US said the zumwalt is stealth(meaning reduced radar cross section), carriers/ships are very visible to radars and satellites. How do you think even civilian ships are tracked? Same way both civilian and military planes are tracked on radar.

3)True they are moving, but once their geolocation is gotten, an anti ship missile uses a combination of inertia, radar homing and infrared heat seekers to seek the heat coming from the ship. Same technology applies to a moving aircraft fired upon, the missiles simply follow its heat signature despite it still flying at supersonic or subsonic speeds, much less ships.

4) True Carriers move with a carrier strike group which ensures it’s protection, but this is against a small nation that would never dare go confrontational. No carrier group can go close to the waters of a major power because despite its protection, its defenses will be overwhelmed by a barrage of cheap missiles than its anti missile shield can handle and one hit each sinks them on high sea. Which carrier group can sustainable survive say a barrage of 1000 strikes coming with decoys?

Every fact I stated are easily verifiable.

I wanted to reply but seeing your post, there is no need. You just schooled him.

Thumbs Up.

Appleyard:


Stop wasting your time with folks that thrive on delusion.



So, I usually leave most of them to bask in the folly of their ignorance and arrogance.

Once i see folks who are hell bent on not learning, i just dismiss them. In this world we are now, no country has no monopoly of military. You must have strengths and weaknesses. You fortify your strengths and work on your weakness.

But the Hollywood-induced followers are not willing to listen and learn. No point in going back and forth.


I know their almighty US Military will soon venture in another war after this. We will be waiting and watching.

See another one.
https://www.popularmechanics.com/military/navy-ships/a19784775/gotland-class-sub-ronald-reagan-war-games

I just can't wait to see those us aircraft carriers in actual combat against competent enemies

USA are just good or King of air that all and may be little defense tec buh Russia is king in defense tec and little on air China is also good buh still catching up Europe is trying Asia is good ocean countries are OK south Americans are nice African are just zero nothing next world African is not for me we like unready mad goods yes I may not b educated to produce this thing buh we have good educated one government leaders help them no

BritishNaija:


We are not in veitnam era, and Please i do appreciate some of you Always read to understand the arguement. He was referring to US Air power, Which i say he can't be destroyed. No country can do that for now.

When you said it cannot be destroyed, are you referring to the whole airforce or just planes? I figure you are referring to the second, which is why I pointed Vietnam to you because it doesn't make sense for someone to claim you can destroy the whole air Force of a country.

And by the way, what make you think we are past Vietnam? Just as planes have increased in sophistication in the 21st century, same way way SAMs have even become better.

Onigawara:


If them don dress in their glossy uniform and carrying clean M16 rifle, you go think say they are more competent than Taliban recruits. Not knowing that na snowflakes, gays, and cowards them be. See as them dey cry like pű$$ys

Very embarrassing.

Drenimarcus:


See people wey deh chop my tax money crying These Iranians are bastards, making mockery of the almighty US Military

What else do you expect when you have an army that is laden with sissies and politically correct gender rights to serve and lead? It's embarrassing.

Appleyard:


When you said it cannot be destroyed, are you referring to the whole airforce or just planes? I figure you are referring to the second, which is why I pointed Vietnam to you because it doesn't make sense for someone to claim you can destroy the whole air Force of a country.

And by the way, what make you think we are past Vietnam? Just as planes have increased in sophistication in the 21st century, same way way SAMs have even become better.

All Being destroyed. We are way past Vietnam Era Which was like analog era. Excluding F-35,F-22,B-2. There are now Several was non Shealthy Jets could defeat Russia SAM sites, Standoff Ammunitions, Jamming of the Radars and flying the normal oldschool way if the terrain permits.

BritishNaija:


Please tell me What toys They tried in Syria, I want to know,.I hate it when you make things up.
It's on record that Israel is the only country that have engaged their f-35s in active combat in Syria. Israel F-35s flew more than 200 sorties Into syrial without the russian made S-systems stationed there knowing when they came or left.

No one is making things up. Just use your common sense and reason independently.

If the US is threatening to sanction other nations from buying a particular weapon, don't you think it's because such weapon surpassed their capability?

Russia have been selling weapons to many nations before now. Why is the US sanctioning nations and threatening nations on the S400 alone? Why not other SAMs before now?

Fact: it's because it make their stealth planes obsolete, which was what it was designed to do--detect and destroy stealth planes. Use your head bro. You don't have to be pro-east or pro-west to decipher and admit facts where they are logical and clear.

LMAO. When last did you hear Israel using their F-35 in Syria?

The very first period they tried it, one of the F-35 flying coffin proved to be the coffin it was when a Syrian S-200 missiles exploded close to it and the plane was damaged in so much that they have to put it out of service. To save Lockheed Martins the embarrassment, the IDF lied that it was a bird strike that took out the plane.

Okay, let's even go with the IDF side of the story and believe it was taken out by a bird. Of what use is a $96 million fighter if it can easily be taken out by a bird?

Well, let's allow that to slide.

Use your common sense. There is a reason why Turkey, a NATO member went for the Russian S-400 despite investing so much already in the F-35 program; because they are aware of what it does over the Syrian skies, "painting" all US planes in Syria. And since the Turks own the Icirlik airbase where American F22 and other planes were stationed, they were aware of the S400 capabilities.

Same reason why Saudi wanted it. Same reason why UAE wanted it. Same reason India purchased it after China, and Algeria signed contract for it's delivery. Same reason why the US doesn't want the proliferation of the weapon hence the introduction of CAATSA.

Bro, that thing works.

And mind you, Russia and Israel have a gentleman agreement where the Russians always look the other away whenever the IDF bombed targets in Syria. This is open secret.

Onigawara:


I think it was a canadian ship actually
https://defence.pk/pdf/threads/dutch-submarine-sinks-half-of-us-navy-ctf-in-1990-and-more.142292/

Lmao.

Drenimarcus:


Once i see folks who are hell bent on not learning, i just dismiss them. In this world we are now, no country has no monopoly of military. You must have strengths and weaknesses. You fortify your strengths and work on your weakness.

But the Hollywood-induced followers are not willing to listen and learn. No point in going back and forth.


I know their almighty US Military will soon venture in another war after this. We will be waiting and watching.

The US has never won a single war by itself. The ones he tried gave it a resounding defeat. Hence they usually drag allies around to cushion their effect.

Onigawara:
See another one.
https://www.popularmechanics.com/military/navy-ships/a19784775/gotland-class-sub-ronald-reagan-war-games

I just can't wait to see those us aircraft carriers in actual combat against competent enemies

They did another one recently, I don't know why I can't find it again.

Seunny4lif, you seeing the massive farmers protests in Netherlands and the one in Italy?

BritishNaija:



All Being destroyed. We are way past Vietnam Era Which was like analog era. Excluding F-35,F-22,B-2. There are now Several was non Shealthy Jets could defeat Russia SAM sites, Standoff Ammunitions, Jamming of the Radars and flying the normal oldschool way if the terrain permits.

Let me tell you an example of how SAMs have become even better. Just in the first month of the Ukraine Brouhaha, the Russian S400 took out a Ukrianian plane in the center of Kiev skies, and guess where it fired from? More than 150 kilometers away from Belarus where it was stationed, creating a world record.

Bro, warfare has improved rapidly in all areas.

Appleyard:


Let me tell you an example of how SAMs have become even better. Just in the first month of the Ukraine Brouhaha, the Russian S400 took out a Ukrianian plane in the center of Kiev skies, and guess where it fired from? More than 150 kilometers away from Belarus where it was stationed, creating a world record.

Bro, warfare has improved rapidly in all areas.

I have to laugh, Please Where do you get this lie from? Russia S-400 in Belarus took out Jet in Kiev? Please never you tell that fables to anyone else; It didn't happen Bro.

There a lot of ways to destroy Russia SAMs Which the US is Very Well capable.

Appleyard:


Let me tell you an example of how SAMs have become even better. Just in the first month of the Ukraine Brouhaha, the Russian S400 took out a Ukrianian plane in the center of Kiev skies, and guess where it fired from? More than 150 kilometers away from Belarus where it was stationed, creating a world record.

Bro, warfare has improved rapidly in all areas.

I have to laugh, Please Where do you get this lie from? Russia S-400 in Belarus took out Jet in Kiev? Please never you tell that fables to anyone else; It didn't happen Bro.

There a lot of ways to destroy Russia SAMs Which the US is Very Well capable of.

Appleyard:


No one is making things up. Just use your common sense and reason independently.

If the US is threatening to sanction other nations from buying a particular weapon, don't you think it's because such weapon surpassed their capability?

Russia have been selling weapons to many nations before now. Why is the US sanctioning nations and threatening nations on the S400 alone? Why not other SAMs before now?

Fact: it's because it make their stealth planes obsolete, which was what it was designed to do--detect and destroy stealth planes. Use your head bro. You don't have to be pro-east or pro-west to decipher and admit facts where they are logical and clear.

LMAO. When last did you hear Israel using their F-35 in Syria?

The very first period they tried it, one of the F-35 flying coffin proved to be the coffin it was when a Syrian S-200 missiles exploded close to it and the plane was damaged in so much that they have to put it out of service. To save Lockheed Martins the embarrassment, the IDF lied that it was a bird strike that took out the plane.

Okay, let's even go with the IDF side of the story and believe it was taken out by a bird. Of what use is a $96 million fighter if it can easily be taken out by a bird?

Well, let's allow that to slide.

Use your common sense. There is a reason why Turkey, a NATO member went for the Russian S-400 despite investing so much already in the F-35 program; because they are aware of what it does over the Syrian skies, "painting" all US planes in Syria. And since the Turks own the Icirlik airbase where American F22 and other planes were stationed, they were aware of the S400 capabilities.

Same reason why Saudi wanted it. Same reason why UAE wanted it. Same reason India purchased it after China, and Algeria signed contract for it's delivery. Same reason why the US doesn't want the proliferation of the weapon hence the introduction of CAATSA.

Bro, that thing works.

And mind you, Russia and Israel have a gentleman agreement where the Russians always look the other away whenever the IDF bombed targets in Syria. This is open secret.

When you tell a lie,you have to tell another one to keep defrnding it.

I'm glad i follow up on Israel News and Well updated. You lied saying Israel F-35 was hit by SAM missile in Syria;That is false.
In 2017, An Incident happen invoving f-35 birdstriking during testing weeks ago, it was well published, and later in the day Syria Goverment claimed be Downed Israel War plane that violated it Airspace; the claim was false, But instead Media houses said f-35 was down, which was wrong. Israel F-35s became combat ready in 2018, while those fables happened in 2017.

You saying Shealth is absolute makes you soud like a joker, i won't go futher than that because it's obvious you don't know What Shealth Aircraft are capable of doing.

As for US Blocking Countries from buying S-400, its a Very Simple agreement, If you are benefiting from US Aircraft programs, you are not allow to buy Russia made SAMs. If you are not benefitting, you can go ahead and As many As you can without US disturbing you.

Drenimarcus:
Seunny4lif, you seeing the massive farmers protests in Netherlands and the one in Italy?

Italy own having been going on for the past one month but now it’s getting serious, that’s the reason Italia MPs want to end Ukraine support.

seunny4lif:

Italy own having been going on for the past one month but now it’s getting serious, that’s the reason Italia MPs want to end Ukraine support.

Yeah. The one I saw today was a very massive one. One more month till end of summer.

Drenimarcus:


Yeah. The one I saw today was a very massive one. One more month till end of summer.

Only Ukraine was supporting Lithuania.

Scholz Urges Lithuania to Lift Kaliningrad Blockade

German Chancellor Olaf Scholz argued that Lithuania was overstepping the framework of EU sanctions against Russia by restricting transportation of goods from its territory to the enclave Kaliningrad region.

Speaking at a presser at the NATO summit in Madrid, Scholz said that it was "a matter for the European Union to set the necessary framework and rules” for transit regulations in question.

EU officials are currently in talks with Vilnius, aiming to exempt traffic between Russia and its Kaliningrad enclave from sanctions, after Moscow vowed retaliation.

Onigawara:


They're just not good with missile and rocket technology. Even way back to their face off with the soviet union.. They always researched aircrafts while the USSR went with ballistic and cruise missiles.

Then, they had the advantage because missiles were less accurate and without Intel, you couldn't locate and take out targerts compared to aircrafts that could enter enemy territory with instruction to take out any target seen in the environments. Also, then, SAM'S were almost non existent then. Countries relied on those mounted AA weapons which weren't really impressive.

Now is it even possible for an aircraft to entire the territory of another country with competent Sam batteries and expect to not be shot down? I think it's suicidal. If you're not taken down by Long SAM'S, then Short SAM'S are there too. If not that there are still MANPADS and truck mounted AA's.
Some believe the claims of the USA and lapdogs that F-35 and F-22 are stealthy against all raders. I asked one us military officer on reddit sometime ago, about this, and his reply was that he's not really sure because they've not had the opportunity to observe Russian high tech raders. Nonetheless, F-22 and F-35 are ABSOLUTELY not stealthy again early warning rader systems. These are raders that alarm border defence corps of breaches by other country aircrafts. Then in responds, they send their own interceptor aircrafts over them...


So my brother, if a long range SAM doesn't take down enemy aircrafts, then a short one would or even a manpad or the aircrafts of the attacked country itself.

Meanwhile, missiles on the other hand are getting better and better. They fly faster. Can carry decoys, and fly lower for the cruise missiles. Russia already has numerous high tech missiles compared to the USA. Iskander ballistic missile is there for short range. Yars-24 and sarmat are there for long range. Bulava is there for medium range (I think even unlimited since it's submarine based). All hypersonic. Cruise milssiles na he even plenty pass including the hypersonic ones

Meanwhile, the only competent missiles I can really acknowledge in the arsenal of USA are minuteman for ballistic and Tomahawk fir cruise which both ofcourse lags miles behind the ones russia possesses in terms of range, speed, blast yield and overall capability.

Russia knows that USA has the advantage in aircraft which is why she has invested in Sam's. Meanwhile, what has the USA got to defend against Russian ICBM's and ship based hypersonic missiles? Na THAAD? I laugh

Even military.com a us owned military site has said it would take just 10 Russian hypersonic missile to sink the most advanced us aircraft carrier which is the USS Gerald. Meaning it could take less for the less advanced ones.

As an unbiased/neutral reader
I'll agree with you that the soviet/Russia is more advanced in rocket technology. But at the same time their advancement is only in sheer kinetic performance(speed, range, maneuverability) with is still debatable though, but in aspect of of missile guidance, avionics, electronics systems US missile systems surpasses that of the Russians.
Concerning the US having limited short range ballistic missiles I think all these is based on military doctrine, due to their highly funded military budget and loads of aircraft the US prefares using air launched precision guided missile and also cruise missile from ships and submarine compares to land based mobile cruise missile. It may be due to their fast force projection anywhere in the world where they striking first and fast with fastly deployed submarines, aircraft carriers, and battle cruiser. It will actually take a while for deployment of land based missile. Also US doctrines emphasize more on precision than just sheer explosive force hence the more preference to airstrike. Even during the height of the cold war nuclear arm race , while the soviet are focused on increasing the devastating yield of nuclear explosion US focus more on smaller yields s with effective delivery and precision. While Russia army has a doctrine of using artillery system to level entire city with indiscriminate shelling, US army focus more on airstrike on specific targets (even though it's more expensive).
So concerning the cruise missiles apart from the tomahawk US have air launched stand off missiles with decent ranges. Also they've even converted their Sam missile systems to surface to surface role where it can have a dual function of attack and defence role.

Concerning the airdefense system I can't pretty say much because there's still limited info about the latest Russia s400 and the new THAAD in action. But in paper the s400 looks more formidable only in actual combat scenery we'll see. Concerning US defense against Russian ICBM do you know they have the most diverse anti missile system, different multilayered and in different domains. For their navy they have the AEGIS defense system in their battle ships that is multilayered sm6-for medium to short range ballistic missile/also cruise missile and aircraft defense. Sm3 for ICBM and other AEGIS systems. For the army they have their THAAD, patriot pac 3, and one new one MEADS they are developing with European partners. They also have landbased GMD for icbm. So in terms of missile defense no go there They are well advanced but concerning how effective it'll be in real scenario we are yet to find out.

@Simeonjoe1
USA only use guided missiles if they just want to hit just one particular target but if it’s just a military attack just like Russia is doing in Ukraine then USA are far worst than Russia.
Ukraine today still have electricity and fuel meaning Russia are good compare to NATO bombardment in Libya that I lived and witnessed.
I will take Russia way more than USA and her allies NATO.
USA don’t care about civilians death as long as it’s not USA citizens.

All the former USA military commanders have said if it’s USA military in Ukraine, B52 bombers will be bombing nonstop just like Iraq and Afghanistan.

Imagine 4 months war and around 5K civilians have been killed compared USA leads attacked in Iraq within a month killed thousands civilians from indiscriminate bombing by B52 unguided bombs.

Imagine Russia attacking Ukraine yet celebrities and head of states are still visiting Ukraine not only that but they are hosting parties as in parties , meaning Russia is playing with Ukraine.
If it’s USA attacking Ukraine, there wouldn’t be anything moving

The only USA defence system not yet tested is THAAD but the others have proved to be useless, first by Israel and by the Saudi Arabia after Yemen Houtis attacked on Saudi every time.
The USA even withdrew the Patriot system from Saudi, I think late last year saying they want to fixed it or something like that.

USA offered Turkey to buy Patriot system and return S400 to Russia, Turkey said NO and of the reason was the USA defence system was called Failure by Saudi and Israeli government.

UAE and Saudi want to buy those Russia systems but the USA blocked it, if the USA didn’t block, that will allow us to know if the S400 is the best or not.
USA blocking it shows the system is far better than anything USA have in their defence system.

Onigawara:


If them don dress in their glossy uniform and carrying clean M16 rifle, you go think say they are more competent than Taliban recruits. Not knowing that na snowflakes, gays, and cowards them be. See as them dey cry like pű$$ys

lol.

BritishNaija:



When you tell a lie,you have to tell another one to keep defrnding it.

I'm glad i follow up on Israel News and Well updated. You lied saying Israel F-35 was hit by SAM missile in Syria;That is false.
In 2017, An Incident happen invoving f-35 birdstriking during testing weeks ago, it was well published, and later in the day Syria Goverment claimed be Downed Israel War plane that violated it Airspace; the claim was false, But instead Media houses said f-35 was down, which was wrong. Israel F-35s became combat ready in 2018, while those fables happened in 2017.

The major problem with you is that you always allow your jingoistic emotional outplay to beguile your sense of reasoning and fact checking.

Israel used the F35 in Syria on October 16, 2017 to be precise. Check the attached picture below.

It doesn't matter whether the Syrian claim is the true account of the event that happened that day. The fact is, the F-35 was damaged and Israel said it was a bird strike that damaged the plane, which is even more embarrassing. Of what use is a plane that cost 96 million if a single bird can take it out? That's the question. Moreover, prior to that incident, there was no reported case of an IDF plane involving a bird strike two weeks backward. Why claiming it was a bird strike now if the plane wasn't involved in the raid carried out to prove a point to the visiting Russian General? And if the news wasn't reported two weeks ago, how did the Syrian army knew about the damaged F-35? Use your sense. Funny enough, the news about the damaged F35 flying coffin was first carried by an Israeli news outlet as at when the Syrians made public their claim. It was obvious the IDF was just trying to manage the embarrassment by claiming it was a bird strike, an incident they said happened two weeks ago that no news body deemed it fit to report considering the status of the fighter plane. How alluring. They can only fool kids like you, not folks like us. Deductive and logical reasoning affirms that the F35 was hit by fragment of Syrian counter battery fire.

You saying Shealth is absolute makes you soud like a joker, i won't go futher than that because it's obvious you don't know What Shealth Aircraft are capable of doing.

It's obvious you're one of those simpletons who are bewildered by sounds of words, rather than the reality of their meaning and usage.

Who told you stealth means invisibility? Stealth only reduces a plane radar signature, and increase the pilot survivability. Otherwise, it doesn't make you invisible as some of you kids love to parrot. In a hotly contested aerier environment that include the likes of the S-400, your stealth technology is just another useless expensive piece of metal. If the Serbs can take out a US Stealth fighter with an outdated 1960 Soviet SAM, know that none of your stealth fighters stand a chance in a highly contested environment involving modern defense systems. Stop kidding yourself.

As for US Blocking Countries from buying S-400, its a Very Simple agreement, If you are benefiting from US Aircraft programs, you are not allow to buy Russia made SAMs. If you are not benefitting, you can go ahead and As many As you can without US disturbing you.

What is this? Is Algeria benefitting from US fighter programs? Is China benefiting from US fighter program? It's even obvious you don't know what you're talking about. The proliferation of advanced enemy systems like the Russian S-400 and other notable armaments from Russia and China pose a serious risk of eroding US ultimate advantage in different areas of warefare especially in the air. Why weren't they sanctioning countries that purchase Russian weapons before now? Have you asked yourself?

BritishNaija:




I have to laugh, Please Where do you get this lie from? Russia S-400 in Belarus took out Jet in Kiev? Please never you tell that fables to anyone else; It didn't happen Bro.

There a lot of ways to destroy Russia SAMs Which the US is Very Well capable of.

Say you were shocked and disappointed at the same time, lol. Or do you expect the western Lamestream media to have reported it? Nah...that's is not in the Ukraine-is-winning scripted narrative.