nnamdi640:
You mean to say Tinubu is the brain behind the hardship we are facing under this present regime. Thesame South-south Tinubu back stab by denieling their son his second tenure and voting in Fulanis man is the one you are feeling for. Hypocrite!!!

Why crying more than the South-South themselves who have moved on and aligned themselves? Even same Jonathan almost decamped to APC and became its candidate but you inconsequential lots are still crying.

OsunOriginal:


The reason you need to start thinking and stay away from simplistic ethnic and religious sentiments when discussing with intellectuals. Why would the state government single-handedly go into such a venture? The global standard is to bring in people with the technical know-how and financial war-chest to lead and operate the port while the state government is only a partner cum facilitator. Lagos state government conceived the whole idea, brought in a technical partner, and provided the land for this. Bringing in the Singaporean technical partner does not only ensure the project is operated by a competent hand, it also brought in FDI which is good for Nigeria.

There's nothing you have typed that has negated the information in my post which you quoted. You only ended up proving me right.

The problem is that many Tinubu urchins have tried to give the impression that this port is strictly a Lagos state govt initiative executed by the Lagos state govt. They also try to tie it to Tinubu. But that is far from the truth. The port was initiated and is being developed by a private Singaporean company. The Lagos state govt and the FG (NPA) own 20% and 5% shares in the venture respectively

CheapHomes1:


The problem is that many Tinubu urchins have tried to give the impression that this port is strictly a Lagos state govt initiative executed by the Lagos state govt. They also try to tie it to Tinubu. But that is far from the truth. The port was initiated and is being developed by a private Singaporean company. The Lagos state govt and the FG (NPA) own 20% and 5% shares in the venture

Thank God you at least admitted the Lagos State govt own 20% of the venture. A foreign firm can only invest with a cooperative and optimistic govt like Lagos State govt under Tinubu and his successors, which gave them the enabling environment. Why didn't they go to the "heaven" Peter Obi created in Anambra? I believe they don't want to be beheaded. I seriously don't understand the hatred you guys have for Yorubas despite being the freedom you enjoy there.

Sheggy13:

Thank God you at least admitted the Lagos State govt own 20% of the venture. A foreign firm can only invest with a cooperative and optimistic govt like Lagos State govt under Tinubu and his successors, which gave them the enabling environment. Why didn't they go to the "heaven" Peter Obi created in Anambra? I believe they don't want to be beheaded. I seriously don't understand the hatred you guys have for Yorubas despite being the freedom you enjoy there.

Who are the "you guys" that have hatred for Yorubas & how does everything you have said contradict my comment?

Sheggy13:

Why crying more than the South-South themselves who have moved on and aligned themselves? Even same Jonathan almost decamped to APC and became its candidate but you inconsequential lots are still crying.

We are waiting for Tinubu come 2023 we will let him taste what he cooked for his fellow southerner in 2015

There will still be ANOTHER PORT in Badagry soon

I guest they should just close apapa see port so that we can rest of those truck causing serious traffic.

A significant cause of congestion is fragmentation
Any small trader in Nigeria can bring in one container. So you have thousands of different players bringing in stuff every day
If there was consolidation with a few dozen major importers who have their own storage and logistics arrangements there would be better coordination and fewer snarls on the road.
It is is important with containers to use the dry dock model linked to rail that way customs checks do not have to happen in Lagos
It is just a question of efficiency
Ethiopia with 120 million people has no port. Not one

LeoDeKing:
Tinubu is the brain behind this.

Nigerians and indeed Africans will benefit from it.

Infact, even his haters will benefit from it, and that is if they have not started smiling to the banks already.

When Tinubu graduated from the university, first class no be biscuit especially in Accounting. Any one with first class then is a genius.

This is why Nigerians have resolved that Tinubu should take over from Buhari on 29 May 2023, so we benefit from him.

God bless SW SS NW NE and NC.

Before losing your mind just be aware those images were all artists' paintings, not actual pictures. The Lekki seaport is still on the drawing board. Without adequate electricity, those cranes on the painting will never work. THose cranes need a lot of electricity to magnetize in order to be able to offload containers.

CheapHomes1:


Who delivered lekki deep sea port? Which support from which general? Why are you congratulating Tinubu? Under what capacity are you congratulating him?

Tinubu planned this project.

Hw one tiny seaport go cost reach 1trillion naira Godforbid

Golan007:
Some people right now.

I wonder what would make people wail about a 2 billion dollar lekki deep sea port..

ofiko123:


I wonder what would make people wail about a 2 billion dollar lekki deep sea port..

Bad belle.

Thats how your guys laughed at GEJ when is said stealing is not corruption but stealing is stealing. How far with Buhari and fighting corruption?

Royalty83:



We don't need the Numskull that said infrastructure doesn't drive development...

Maybe I'm from Lagos, maybe I'm not. Not really interested in putting that detail here.
However, I'm not sure what that has to do with facts. Singapore doing more shipping than lagos as your example is a bit of a problem because their situation is far from ideal, which is what lagos also suffers from.

Their traffic situation is horrible and population density, worse than lagos is nowhere close to what the optimum human population density.

So, its envious to point out that you should not have 20million people living in the smallest state in nigeria, where you have excessive land mass that facilities can spread out to??

Again, lagos is collapsing under its weight.

aribisala0:
Well Are you from Lagos State?

You do not get it

It is a private investment so it is for them to judge where to put their money and for the people of Lagos State to judge if it is the place for this

Yo seem bitter and envious.
Singapore is a nations State with an area of 768 sq Km

Whilst Lagos State is about 3345 = four times the size of Singapore
Singapore is doing more shipping than Lagos and is currently building a Mega Port that will have the world's LARGEST CONTAINER TERMINAL when finished. This is a country less than one quarter the size of Lagos State

What the hell do you mean by "sinking"?

Guy you are just envious

litaninja:
Maybe I'm from Lagos, maybe I'm not. Not really interested in putting that detail here.
However, I'm not sure what that has to do with facts. Singapore doing more shipping than lagos as your example is a bit of a problem because their situation is far from ideal, which is what lagos also suffers from.

Their traffic situation is horrible and population density, worse than lagos is nowhere close to what the optimum human population density.

So, its envious to point out that you should not have 20million people living in the smallest state in nigeria, where you have excessive land mass that facilities can spread out to??

Again, lagos is collapsing under its weight.

You do not have 20 million people living in Lagos because of a port. That is nonsense. The simple reason is Lagos is doing better economically . Now if other states are not doing well , not creating jobs etc then people will gravitate to where there are opportunities whether it be oil industry or whatever else it is that makes a local economy grow.
The ports in Lagos have remained the same for the past more than 30 years. THAT HAS NOT CHANGED

Lagos was not the most populous state 30 years ago when it was capital and since then no new port has arrived in Lagos
So your attribution to the Port has no logical basis.
London is the most populous UK city because of the concentration of Capital in London
The Port of Felixstowe is the busiest port in the UK and few people have heard of Felixstowe
The population is less than 30000 people
The Busiest port in Europe is Rotterdam. Far busier than Lagos It has 1 Million people there

Singapore's population is not because it has a busy port.
It has the second busiest port in the world second only to Shanghai
The busiest port in the USA is the Port of Los Angeles with less than 4 million people
Your connection of Port activity to population is not borne out by evidence

The fundamental driver of Lagos State population AFTER IT CEASED TO BE CAPITAL is that wealth is being created in Lagos State more than in other states leading to an influx of low income workers like okada riders e.g. If other states were working as they should we would not be in this situation

Ethiopia is landlocked with 120 million and doing fine

Yup. The the sustained population growth in lagos has nothing to do with fact that lagos has the only working port in Nigeria and is the route for goods coming in and leaving the country. Right.

You just randomly pick cities and say the port is this and that. Does Europe have only one port?
I won't pull myself down to your level with insults, but I really hope you didn't pay good money to study business or economics and still can't understand the influence of a state with the only accessible port in a country of 200 million people.

Cheers.

aribisala0:
You do not have 20 million people living in Lagos because of a port. That is nonsense. The simple reason is Lagos is doing better economically . Now if other states are not doing well , not creating jobs etc then people will gravitate to where there are opportunities whether it be oil industry or whatever else it is that makes a local economy grow.
The ports in Lagos have remained the same for the past more than 30 years. THAT HAS NOT CHANGED

Lagos was not the most populous state 30 years ago when it was capital and since then no new port has arrived in Lagos
So your attribution to the Port has no logical basis.
London is the most populous UK city because of the concentration of Capital in London
The Port of Felixstowe is the busiest port in the UK and few people have heard of Felixstowe
The population is less than 30000 people
The Busiest port in Europe is Rotterdam. Far busier than Lagos It has 1 Million people there

Singapore's population is not because it has a busy port.
It has the second busiest port in the world second only to Shanghai
The busiest port in the USA is the Port of Los Angeles with less than 4 million people
Your connection of Port activity to population is not borne out by evidence

The fundamental driver of Lagos State population AFTER IT CEASED TO BE CAPITAL is that wealth is being created in Lagos State more than in other states leading to an influx of low income workers like okada riders e.g. If other states were working as they should we would not be in this situation

Ethiopia is landlocked with 120 million and doing fine

Golan007:


Na so una go dey lie.

https://www.ddhmag.com/bad-legislation-cripples-tinapa-export-processing-zones/

Let us even go one step further: if Obasanjo did not do it, what about Jonathan?

we know the source of our problems in the east............it emanates largely from a certain mindset from another ethnicity! change from your sophistry, it is destroying the nation. development is not a zero-sum game, a winner takes it all attitude will leave groups despising the nation!

ebufa:




we know the source of our problems in the east............it emanates largely from a certain mindset from another ethnicity! change from your sophistry, it is destroying the nation. development is not a zero-sum game, a winner takes it all attitude will leave groups despising the nation!

You are the one making spurious allegations.

litaninja:
Yup. The the sustained population growth in lagos has nothing to do with fact that lagos has the only working port in Nigeria and is the route for goods coming in and leaving the country. Right.

You just randomly pick cities and say the port is this and that. Does Europe have only one port?
I won't pull myself down to your level with insults, but I really hope you didn't pay good money to study business or economics and still can't understand the influence of a state with the only accessible port in a country of 200 million people.

Cheers.

Which goods leave the country through Lagos?
Lagos is not the only working port in Nigeria. Onne is a massive port doing huge business
The Federal Government approved new ports in
Ibom
Warri
Lekki
Bonny
It is for the state governments to work to make it happen like LASG . The ports are approved and licensed and need FUNDING>
Since you are prepared to lie to score cheap points there is not much to be gained engaging you.
Lagos had a port 30 years ago when Abuja became Capital . It was not the most populous state then. It is the same port.
Again The busiest port in the UK is Felixstowe a place most people have never heard of with a population under 50000. Your logic about port and population is twisted

These are facts not sentiments.
The population of Lagos has ben exploding since 1999 and a fundamental reason is other states are failing to create jobs and wealth.
Are the millions of people trooping into Lagos exporters or importers? Why were they not coming when the Federal Capital was in Lagos State?
Lagos State quite simply attracts virtually all the NON-OIL related investment in the country, has almost all the manufacturing ,Now Dangote Refinery, Fertilizer and a lot more that are not Port related . People are trooping to Lagos State because the state is working .

Approved and exist are not the same thing sir.

Nigeria has total electricity generating capacity of 10,000MW, oya on light for your house na.

Same story with the ports. Say na massive business. Onne is doing massive business, yet trucks are sitting standstill on the roads and bridges leading to apapa?

aribisala0:
Which goods leave the country through Lagos?
Lagos is not the only working port in Nigeria. Onne is a massive port doing huge business
The Federal Government approved new ports in
Ibom
Warri
Lekki
Bonny
It is for the state governments to work to make it happen like LASG . The ports are approved and licensed and need FUNDING>
Since you are prepared to lie to score cheap points there is not much to be gained engaging you.
Lagos had a port 30 years ago when Abuja became Capital . It was not the most populous state then. It is the same port.
Again The busiest port in the UK is Felixstowe a place most people have never heard of with a population under 50000. Your logic about port and population is twisted

These are facts not sentiments.
The population of Lagos has ben exploding since 1999 and a fundamental reason is other states are failing to create jobs and wealth.
Are the millions of people trooping into Lagos exporters or importers? Why were they not coming when the Federal Capital was in Lagos State?
Lagos State quite simply attracts virtually all the NON-OIL related investment in the country, has almost all the manufacturing ,Now Dangote Refinery, Fertilizer and a lot more that are not Port related . People are trooping to Lagos State because the state is working .

litaninja:
Approved and exist are not the same thing sir.

Nigeria has total electricity generating capacity of 10,000MW, oya on light for your house na.

Same story with the ports. Say na massive business. Onne is doing massive business, yet trucks are sitting standstill on the roads and bridges leading to apapa?

Clearly you did not read what you quoted

The FG approved all those ports.
The FG is not paying for ANY of them
The FG is not paying ONE KOBO for this port at Lekki
The State government worked to get investors.
Those ports do not exist because there is no money and not because anyone is obstructing them.
LASG went out and found people to finance this why can't others
LOOK AT THIS
If the other ones do no exist then that is the problem of those state governments not working as they should.
It there are trucks on roads and bridges that is not a problem of the ports but rather the evacuation infrastructure i.e. roads or rail.
The evacuation infrastructure for Apapa was built over 40 years ago and has not seen fresh investment .There is no rail. If there was rail then there could and should be an inland dry dock outside Lagos where Customs and other checks happen.
Whether it is Onne Warrri Bonny or Ibom a port alone is not enough.There is need for evacuation infrastructure from the ports to the hinterland.
The equipment at Apapa and Tin Can is outdated and cannot process a large number of containers like the new cranes delivered at Lekki
It is clear you do not understand the issues. It is important to do so before talking about solutions
One single port with the right evacuation infrastructure can serve the whole country and even some of our neighbour.

.

This thing doesn't need all the english you're stressing yourself to type.

The new equipment, large number of containers and the new cranes delivered at lekki will go through an overpopulated state with no infrastructure that can barely hold itself up.
Simply put those new cranes, ports and large number of containers IN OTHER PARTS OF NIGERIA. Do you understand that?

aribisala0:
Clearly you did not read what you quoted

The FG approved all those ports.
The FG is not paying for ANY of them
The FG is not paying ONE KOBO for this port at Lekki
The State government worked to get investors.
Those ports do not exist because there is no money and not because anyone is obstructing them.
LASG went out and found people to finance this why can't others
LOOK AT THIS
If the other ones do no exist then that is the problem of those state governments not working as they should.
It there are trucks on roads and bridges that is not a problem of the ports but rather the evacuation infrastructure i.e. roads or rail.
The evacuation infrastructure for Apapa was built over 40 years ago and has not seen fresh investment .There is no rail. If there was rail then there could and should be an inland dry dock outside Lagos where Customs and other checks happen.
Whether it is Onne Warrri Bonny or Ibom a port alone is not enough.There is need for evacuation infrastructure from the ports to the hinterland.
The equipment at Apapa and Tin Can is outdated and cannot process a large number of containers like the new cranes delivered at Lekki
It is clear you do not understand the issues. It is important to do so before talking about solutions
One single port with the right evacuation infrastructure can serve the whole country and even some of our neighbour.

litaninja:
This thing doesn't need all the english you're stressing yourself to type.

The new equipment, large number of containers and the new cranes delivered at lekki will go through an overpopulated state with no infrastructure that can barely hold itself up.
Simply put those new cranes, ports and large number of containers IN OTHER PARTS OF NIGERIA. Do you understand that?

WHO should put them in other states?
This is a private investment do you understand that?
Actually it is also clear you do not understand the issues ? What has population got to do with anything here?
Also you do not understand the geography of Lagos State,
Containers leaving Lekki will pass through Epe and not a so called overcrowded state. They will be at Ijebu Ode in 1 hour by road
Containers can be evacuated from Lekki by rail tracks which has nothing to do with road networks
I am beginning to think your motivation is not rational and is just driven by Envy and hatred for Lagos
You stubbornly reject the evidence from the UK that has a port in Felixstowe that has equivalent annual tonnage to Tin Can Island. Its population is under 50000 and Rotterdam that is THIRTY TIMES Tin Can in tonnage with just 1 million people
Your obsession with ports and population is not based on anything rational
By your logic because Lagos has high population no one should invest there.? Or is it just port business you oppose? Is there any evidence associating ports with crowd or population that does not apply to other types of investment? Because a woman is fine we should cap the number of suitors so that ugly ones can have?

A private investment with the capacity to worsen the conditions in the state shouldn't get the go-ahead to be established. That's what you're not getting.
So all containers coming in via the port will head to ijebu-ode? To do what? Those flimsy epe roads are the roads tonnes of containers are going to roll over?
The rail netowk you're talking about, where is
it?

Lagos is putting the cart before the horse.
Don't worry, in 2 - 3 years, I'll quote you on this thread.
Lol.

aribisala0:
WHO should put them in other states?
This is a private investment do you understand that?
Actually it is also clear you do not understand the issues ? What has population got to do with anything here?
Also you do not understand the geography of Lagos State,
Containers leaving Lekki will pass through Epe and not a so called overcrowded state. They will be at Ijebu Ode in 1 hour by road
Containers can be evacuated from Lekki by rail tracks which has nothing to do with road networks
I am beginning to think your motivation is not rational and is just driven by Envy and hatred for Lagos
You stubbornly reject the evidence from the UK that has a port in Felixstowe that has equivalent annual tonnage to Tin Can Island. Its population is under 50000 and Rotterdam that is THIRTY TIMES Tin Can in tonnage with just 1 million people
Your obsession with ports and population is not based on anything rational
By your logic because Lagos has high population no one should invest there.? Or is it just port business you oppose? Is there any evidence associating ports with crowd or population that does not apply to other types of investment? Because a woman is fine we should cap the number of suitors so that ugly ones can have?

litaninja:
A private investment with the capacity to worsen the conditions in the state shouldn't get the go-ahead to be established. That's what you're not getting.
So all containers coming in via the port will head to ijebu-ode? To do what? Those flimsy epe roads are the roads tonnes of containers are going to roll over?
The rail netowk you're talking about, where is
it?

Lagos is putting the cart before the horse.
Don't worry, in 2 - 3 years, I'll quote you on this thread.
Lol.

What you are not getting is that you are entitled to your envious opinions but they are impotent and matter only to you. The thing only left is for you to go there and burn it down

Right back at ya

aribisala0:
What you are not getting is that you are entitled to your envious opinions but they are impotent and matter only to you. The thing only left is for you to go there and burn it down

Quintopia:


https://www.vanguardngr.com/2022/07/buhari-welcomes-berthing-of-first-ship-at-lekki-deep-sea-port/

Awesome! International trade will get more robust and export inneficiencies removed.