Kvngfrosh:
First off, you tagged the wrong person
Secondly, nobody said css is a programming language + using css is a matter of preference.
Lastly, C is a middle level language.

I apologize if i wrongly tagged you...
it is not a matter of preference because both of them do not do the same thing or try to solve the same problem.
CSS is not an alternative to c++ that is the point I am trying to make. it will make sense to say i rather touch C++ over C, go, java, c#, etc than CSS.

benalvino3:


I apologize if i wrongly tagged you...
it is not a matter of preference because both of them do not do the same thing or try to solve the same problem.
CSS is not an alternative to c++ that is the point I am trying to make. it will make sense to say i rather touch C++ over C, go, java, c#, etc than CSS.

Alright, I get what your point

Op I would have preferred you find out the real reason why some people finds it hard to grasp Js knowledge in a more constructable way and finding solutions to it.

I'm not different from those people too but after going deeper esp learning about how other programming languages works, I realized the problem is from the stage and lessons beginners are being taught.
Someone like me would love the stages be like this:
Learning Html, Css and when it gets to Js I would like to start from Dom manipulation and Functions, cause I believe my knowledge after learning Html and css is how to make my page responsive and interactive instead of starting It's lessons from, arrays and operators.

Maxxim:
Op I would have preferred you find out the real reason why some people finds it hard to grasp Js knowledge in a more constructable way and finding solutions to it.

I'm not different from those people too but after going deeper esp learning about how other programming languages works, I realized the problem is from the stage and lessons beginners are being taught.
Someone like me would love the stages be like this:
Learning Html, Css and when it gets to Js I would like to start from Dom manipulation and Functions, cause I believe my knowledge after learning Html and css is how to make my page responsive and interactive instead of starting It's lessons from, arrays and operators.

to manipulate doms you need to know how functions and objects work. all programming has similar learning curves and except you understand that concept, you cannot go further. without learning the concept behind Js, you will be wasting your time trying to manipulate doms.
you figured out how to query an id or class name... what do you do with it? you still have to write your methods. to make the Html documents do what you want. this might include arrays, if statements, loops, etc.

WebAssembly is the next big thing. i will say you guys should look into it because once they are able to have Dom manipulation on dotnet or other webassembly tech like what Go is offering as an alternative to c#. that will be the end of javascript.

benalvino3:


to manipulate doms you need to know how functions and objects work. all programming has similar learning curves and except you understand that concept, you cannot go further. without learning the concept behind Js, you will be wasting your time trying to manipulate doms.
you figured out how to query an id or class name... what do you do with it? you still have to write your methods. to make the Html documents do what you want. this might include arrays, if statements, loops, etc.

You're correct sire
But maybe a short intro about those I mentioned could be made in order to make those learning have an idea and make them understand that to achieve that, they need to learn it's fundamentals first

benalvino3:
WebAssembly is the next big thing. i will say you guys should look into it because once they are able to have Dom manipulation on dotnet or other webassembly tech like what Go is offering as an alternative to c#. that will be the end of javascript.

Yeah but not everything requires it, it will be mostly complex app, like Zoom, Figma and others. I am interested in it too , one can port games to the browser

qtguru:


Yeah but not everything requires it, it will be mostly complex app, like Zoom, Figma and others. I am interested in it too , one can port games to the browser

I just wrote an application i can use to watch any Movie or TV show using blazor. not a single javascript was needed including with I make Ajax-like calls to update DOM.
Even Javascript devs don't like it. I am sure if Webassembly gets full DOM access... everyone will leave javascript.

LienwaltAbel:

I still dey try find my level. It's been long since I last programmed, I'm thinking of getting back to learning python and C++ Sha. Then I'll try my luck with gameplay programming and backend (maybe). The issue now is that I need money for laptop (I'm on that for now).

Ma guy gameplay dry o, hope say you know wetin dey sup currently. Backend and mobile dev seem the most reasonable right now, front end dev is getting saturated.

truthCoder:

learn tailwind css.
thank me later

Sure, thanks.

benalvino3:


I just wrote an application i can use to watch any Movie or TV show using blazor. not a single javascript was needed including with I make Ajax-like calls to update DOM.
Even Javascript devs don't like it. I am sure if Webassembly gets full DOM access... everyone will leave javascript.

That's amazing, i'll keep an eye on it.

benalvino3:


I apologize if i wrongly tagged you...
it is not a matter of preference because both of them do not do the same thing or try to solve the same problem.
CSS is not an alternative to c++ that is the point I am trying to make. it will make sense to say i rather touch C++ over C, go, java, c#, etc than CSS.

I believe I'm the one you wanted to quote.

What I'm really saying is, I'd rather implement a functionality in C++ (difficult lang) than design something in CSS, obviously it's not directly comparison.

benalvino3:


I just wrote an application i can use to watch any Movie or TV show using blazor. not a single javascript was needed including with I make Ajax-like calls to update DOM.
Even Javascript devs don't like it. I am sure if Webassembly gets full DOM access... everyone will leave javascript.

Does webAssembly have a runtime library that can handle the backend of an application. Why do you think WA will take over from JS. "Anything that can't be built by JavaScript will eventually be built by JavaScript".

Playermayweda:


Does webAssembly have a runtime library that can handle the backend of an application. Why do you think WA will take over from JS. "Anything that can't be built by JavaScript will eventually be built by JavaScript".

You don't understand what webassembly is. It runs on the browser alone, just like Javascript, c# runs on the browser via webassembly, so is Go.

Like I said, once they have full Dom control, they will kill Javascript. Although js has a lot of libraries, I think they can easily be ported to other languages.

benalvino3:


You don't understand what webassembly is. It runs on the browser alone, just like Javascript, c# runs on the browser via webassembly, so is Go.

Like I said, once they have full Dom control, they will kill Javascript. Although js has a lot of libraries, I think they can easily be ported to other languages.

The way Una the talk eh


So all the companies using Js will just dump it because of web assembly?


Same thing have been said of PHP yet it's still king based on market share


JavaScript isn't going anywhere in next 10-15 years

GREATIGBOMAN:



The way Una the talk eh


So all the companies using Js will just dump it because of web assembly?


Same thing have been said of PHP yet it's still king based on market share


JavaScript isn't going anywhere in next 10-15 years

I am not saying they will just dump it. They may have a new standard. Move to a better tech and faster binary.

They application will scale even larger with better performance. Except they want to hold themselves back or monetary issues.

You remember flash? Flash was the standard of web animation and apps but html 5 came and replaced it. Why was that? Because of the flash player controlled by Adobe and performance issues compared to plain html /css vs flash player.

Php is slowly phasing out. You want to build large enterprise app... You will not get the scalability and performance from php. You may want to go asp. Even ruby is gone and one reason is performance

benalvino3:


I am not saying they will just dump it. They may have a new standard. Move to a better tech and faster binary.

They application will scale even larger with better performance. Except they want to hold themselves back or monetary issues.

You remember flash? Flash was the standard of web animation and apps but html 5 came and replaced it. Why was that? Because of the flash player controlled by Adobe and performance issues compared to plain html /css vs flash player.

Php is slowly phasing out. You want to build large enterprise app... You will not get the scalability and performance from php. You may want to go asp. Even ruby is gone and one reason is performance

JavaScript is bare meta

No one would love creating UIs with C or C++

GREATIGBOMAN:



JavaScript is bare meta

No one would love creating UIs with C or C++

No one creates UI with js. They manipulate UI with js dynamically.

You make UI with css and html. And css has some mathematical calculations or you could say programmable syntax to will work better compared to using js. Like animation etc.

benalvino3:


No one creates UI with js. They manipulate UI with js dynamically.

You make UI with css and html. And css has some mathematical calculations or you could say programmable syntax to will work better compared to using js. Like animation etc.

I meant interactive Ui

Will be pain in the a**

GREATIGBOMAN:


I meant interactive Ui

Will be pain in the a**

It will be easier and faster actually. Like I said, if webassembly have full Dom access, then js will start getting replaced. I don't think employers will want to employ someone who know c++ then employ someone who knows Javascript to do something on the document when same thing could be done in c++. I don't know if you understand. Right now, using two-way data binding. Dom can be manipulated with c# but not close to the scale of js

benalvino3:


It will be easier and faster actually. Like I said, if webassembly have full Dom access, then js will start getting replaced. I don't think employers will want to employ someone who know c++ then employ someone who knows Javascript to do something on the document when same thing could be done in c++. I don't know if you understand. Right now, using two-way data binding. Dom can be manipulated with c# but not close to the scale of js

They're many ways in which js would have been replaced in the past bro.


You sound like you just can't wait js to be replaced

You you simply don't like the language or you don't use it

GREATIGBOMAN:



They're many ways in which js would have been replaced in the past bro.


You sound like you just can't wait js to be replaced

You you simply don't like the language or you don't use it

Could you enlighten me with the ways it could have been replaced?

I will like to know.

benalvino3:


Could you enlighten me with the ways it could have been replaced?

I will like to know.

Read about the humble beginnings of js from when it was used mainly to display disruptive ads and annoying flash banners

GREATIGBOMAN:


Read about the humble beginnings of js from when it was used mainly to display disruptive ads and annoying flash banners

Js came and replace something, it came and helped make sites dynamic. So what tech should have replaced it?