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Re: NNPC Quietly Approves Petrol Pump Price Hike To ₦179/Litre by Nobody: 9:50am On Jul 19, 2022
Jostoman:
Why is this government so heartless like this, you people are just punishing Nigerians instead of making life better for every Nigerians. Nawao.

Okay, let's assume that Buhari tells NNPC to make sure fuel costs N40 a liter.

Right now, it costs about N600 to subsidize one liter of fuel to N165. To get to N40, would mean at least adding an extra N120 per liter.

Guess where the money would come from? The bits in the budget earmarked for your salaries, wages, road and rail projects, etc...and government would borrow more to make up.

That's just as oppressive...
Re: NNPC Quietly Approves Petrol Pump Price Hike To ₦179/Litre by Cognitivereason: 9:55am On Jul 19, 2022
Subsidywise20:


They did not, they continued with subsidy. That is what chased away private hands from rehab and operating refineries., or even doing new ones.

Subsidy means that fuel would be sold at a loss, and government pays the petroleum industry some money..the subsidy...to cover that loss. In practice, since costs of production rise all the time...the subsidy is inadequate.

That is why we haven't had any new refineries from NNPC...NNPC has always operated at a loss for a long time.

If GEJ-Yaradua had removed subsidy, yes, we would have been buying fuel at N150 as early as 2011, BUT....there would have been enough incentive for private people to run refineries.

Privatising refineries does not mean that Company W would come and build new refinery from you...they must surely make a profit while doing so. If they cannot...they won't come. Using an example from the GSM sector...all those facilites MTN, Airtel, and Glo built...ya think they would have done so if government did not allow them to set the price of their service..so that they could recoup their investment.

Nigerians need to give up this idea that fuel must be cheap...it is driving away investment.

I understand all what You said..

What you failed to include is that Dangote still showed interest in rehabilitating the refineries starting with PH..but Yar Adua rejected it..

Have you asked yourself why Dangote still embarked upon building his own despite the facts that subsidies remain..

yess the business isnt profitable ordinarily..this is why FG spends trillions to those in the Business to make it profitable as they keep importing.. Dangote could have taken over the refineries and FG allocates the subsidies to him as his rights...if FG doesnt promptly pay Dangote increases the prices of his product for him to generate his profit.. It quite tedious and unnecessarily complicated which is why ni investor wants to take that risk..but Dangote wanted to bear all this and rehabilitate a 210,000 bpd refinery in PH.. and Yar Adua just quenched it..

Today are we not in the mercy of Dangote to finish his refinery..and if he does if the price of PMS is not allowed to rise aboveN400 as it should normally be without subsidies...dont you think NNPC will now allocate all the trillions sent abroad in scarce FOREX to Dangote?

we had 2 golden opportunities but Yar Adua had no sense...I am still wondering why he is referred to as the best..Obasanjo is the best .
Re: NNPC Quietly Approves Petrol Pump Price Hike To ₦179/Litre by Saintinoo(m): 10:03am On Jul 19, 2022
Subsidywise20:


Main reason for this scarcity is roughly that marketers and NNPC cannot transport petrol to end user at the current prices...because the cost of diesel is very very high...



Yep...actions have consequences.


1.Nigeria still subsidsies fuel....otherwise we would be paying between N400-700 by now.

2. UK does not subsidize gas, fuel or any other fossil fuel at all (and prices are high in part because it is taxed)

3.USA does not subsidize gas, fuel or any other fossil fuel. (They may give some assistance to the poorest of the poor to buy fuel, but that's it.). US has very high fuel prices...

4.Egypt was subsidizing fuel....but they have reduced the amount they spend on subsidy. Now they spend about 10% of what they spent in 2014 on subsides...and as a result prices have gone up (Reuters article on matter)

What do you think subsidy is? US gives incentives to it citizens because of the high cost of gas, Nigeria subsidy the landing cost of petrol, is there any difference?

The government have been subsidising the landing cost of petrol by the marketers, although is not fully subsidising fuel, reason why petrol jumped from 90 naira to 179, the recent increase, if the government fully removes subsidy then petrol will sell at around 400 naira.

Forget there political talks, the government can further pay for the landing cost of petrol but they rather steal than to help the masses. You don't know how many trillions politicians steal in this country, subsidising petrol should not be the problem.
Re: NNPC Quietly Approves Petrol Pump Price Hike To ₦179/Litre by bigfish3k: 10:13am On Jul 19, 2022
Cognitivereason:


Reason with ur head

why wont they pay subsidies in triple can u compare the global price of petrol today to what it was in GEJ.

so you expect FG to be paying the same amount for subsidies after Russia Ukraine war?

dey reason na..everything isnt APC
I don't have power to argue with any APC person because they talk with both sides of their mouth

Below is how you people reason :

When petrol price goes up internationally, the APC government will increase our local prices and triple subsidy payments, citing international price increment as an excuse

When petrol price also comes down internationally, the APC government will still increase local prices and triple subsidy payments, while citing international low prices.

Mtchew. You people are the ones not reasoning well and frustrating Nigerians.

God Forbid BAT thing

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Re: NNPC Quietly Approves Petrol Pump Price Hike To ₦179/Litre by Nobody: 10:18am On Jul 19, 2022
As much as I’m pained by the level of hardship APC has brought upon this country, subsidy needs to go for Nigeria to move forward. Current petrol subsidy regime is not sustainable, benefits only some cartels and not the masses as we’ve been told. Subsidizing consumption will only make the country poor and poorer. We should know this and prepare accordingly. It will not easy but it’s for the good of all. Investments will flow into local refineries creating more jobs and opportunities for the citizens.

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Re: NNPC Quietly Approves Petrol Pump Price Hike To ₦179/Litre by ITbomb(m): 10:25am On Jul 19, 2022
They should just remove the subsidy
Re: NNPC Quietly Approves Petrol Pump Price Hike To ₦179/Litre by Mom007(f): 10:36am On Jul 19, 2022
kennethfranc:
It's very sad. The fact that this is happening in an oil producing country makes me worried.

More reason why we need to vote LP come 2023.


#OBIAHMED2023
Oil producing country but you have bubu as your minister of petroleum... An uneducated cattle rearer? What does He know about petroleum or about being a minister? Much less being a president? After 7years of fixing round pegs in square holes all over the polity, y'all are acting surprised that the country and all its economic institutions are in a free fall. Una never see anything!
Re: NNPC Quietly Approves Petrol Pump Price Hike To ₦179/Litre by Tundex911: 10:38am On Jul 19, 2022
Thank you bubu, thank you NNPC

Smh
Re: NNPC Quietly Approves Petrol Pump Price Hike To ₦179/Litre by WarriAproko: 11:12am On Jul 19, 2022
Tinubu and Atiku out.
Re: NNPC Quietly Approves Petrol Pump Price Hike To ₦179/Litre by Panda7(m): 11:15am On Jul 19, 2022
Re: NNPC Quietly Approves Petrol Pump Price Hike To ₦179/Litre by jojothaiv(m): 11:15am On Jul 19, 2022
Which one be quietly, we've buying the shit for 200NGN per litres since when..

The only exception is NNPC, AA Rano and a host of few filling stations.
Re: NNPC Quietly Approves Petrol Pump Price Hike To ₦179/Litre by faithfull18(f): 11:22am On Jul 19, 2022
IamANigerianMan:
If that will make fuel scarcity over let it be
Hmmn.
Re: NNPC Quietly Approves Petrol Pump Price Hike To ₦179/Litre by SIRTee15: 11:23am On Jul 19, 2022
Goodyness:
As much as I’m pained by the level of hardship APC has brought upon this country, subsidy needs to go for Nigeria to move forward. Current petrol subsidy regime is not sustainable, benefits only some cartels and not the masses as we’ve been told. Subsidizing consumption will only make the country poor and poorer. We should know this and prepare accordingly. It will not easy but it’s for the good of all. Investments will flow into local refineries creating more jobs and opportunities for the citizens.

This is not the right time for Nigerians to buy fuel for 800 naira per litre, the spiral effects on other sectors of the economy will make the inflation uncontrollable. The aftermath hardship is better imagined, and there's no guarantee there wont be another wave of violent protest. Nigerians are very angry.
A sensible govt will continue the subsidy even if partial for now- its not like they will use the subsidy money for anything sensible, pending when Dangote refinery comes on board. That's the only pragmatic way out.
Nigerians are very angry, their limit of endurance should not over-stretched.
Re: NNPC Quietly Approves Petrol Pump Price Hike To ₦179/Litre by Nobody: 11:27am On Jul 19, 2022
Saintinoo:


What do you think subsidy is? US gives incentives to it citizens because of the high cost of gas, Nigeria subsidy the landing cost of petrol, is there any difference?

The government have been subsidising the landing cost of petrol by the marketers, although is not fully subsidising fuel, reason why petrol jumped from 90 naira to 179, the recent increase, if the government fully removes subsidy then petrol will sell at around 400 naira.

Forget there political talks, the government can further pay for the landing cost of petrol but they rather steal than to help the masses. You don't know how many trillions politicians steal in this country, subsidising petrol should not be the problem.

Again, subsidy is what government pays to the petroleum sector to compensate them for selling fuel below its production and landing cost.

We cannot afford to subsidise petrol...even with the stealing of money goung on....it costs far too much.

(I am not excusing corruption mind you)

Also, US gives incentives to some...the minority...not EVERYONE...as in Nigeria
Re: NNPC Quietly Approves Petrol Pump Price Hike To ₦179/Litre by akbonus: 11:34am On Jul 19, 2022
IamANigerianMan:
If that will make fuel scarcity over let it be
GUY TRY USE YOUR SENSE SMALL,THIS WILL MAKE MARKETERS,PPMC,PPRC AND OTHER STAKE HOLDERS MAKE MORE MONEY AND MORE SUFFERING FOR NIGERIANS.PETROLEUM MARKETING PRICING IN NIGERIA IS THE BIGGEST SCAM IN NIGERIA,NNPC IS NIGERIA'S HEAQURTER OF CORRUPTION.MUCH OF THE STOLEN MONEY FROM NIGERIA'S FEDERATION ACCOUNT COMES OUT FROM NNPC.ONE OF THE REASON THEY ARE TRYING TO STOP OBI IS FOR HIM AND HIS DATA SPECIALIST VP NOT TO COME AND EXPOSE THEIR FRAUD IN NNPC,IF THEY DO ALL FORMER MANAGERS IN NNPC WILL GO TO KUJE,KIRI KIRI.THE QUANTITY IMPORTED,CONSUME AND THE AMOUNT PAID FOR SUBSIDY AND DUMERAGE AT THE PORT ARE AL SCAM.USELESS OLD THIEVES,WE ARE FLUSHING ALL OF THEM OUT COME NEXT YEAR.OUR EYES DON CLEAR,TELL THEM SAY OUR EYES DON OPEN OO,IN THE VOICE OF THAT MUSICIAN I DON'T KNOW HIS NAME THOUGH.
Re: NNPC Quietly Approves Petrol Pump Price Hike To ₦179/Litre by Nobody: 11:35am On Jul 19, 2022
popez:
More hardship for the masses. What positive impact have APC made on the lives of ordinary Nigerians since they assumed power?


Our students have been at home for over 5 months now, the security situation in the country is terrifying, the common masses can barely feed once a day, what on earth have these !diots been doing the past 7 years?

Who Voted Buhari into Power for consecutively twice without a glitch for once to think over it?

I believe its Aliens from JUPITER?

Next Year is around the Corner let's VOTE IN another DULLARD into POWER










Mr Learned

Re: NNPC Quietly Approves Petrol Pump Price Hike To ₦179/Litre by Nobody: 11:36am On Jul 19, 2022
Cognitivereason:


I understand all what You said..

What you failed to include is that Dangote still showed interest in rehabilitating the refineries starting with PH..but Yar Adua rejected it..

Even then

1.If Dangote had taken over the PH refinery, any fuel sold from there would have been sold at a higher price than the 'government price'.

Busienssmen don't run charities, they run businesses. They won't come and renovate stuff for you and dash you for free...it has to earn a profit so that it can keep on running well enough.

2.So long as fuel is being sold below what it costs to produce and transport it to the end user...it does not matter if Dangote runs PH refinery, it would still be at a loss.

Have you asked yourself why Dangote still embarked upon building his own despite the facts that subsidies remain..

He is taking a risk...plus government has basically said that when his refinery is ready, subsidy is going.

yess the business isnt profitable ordinarily..this is why FG spends trillions to those in the Business to make it profitable as they keep importing.. Dangote could have taken over the refineries and FG allocates the subsidies to him as his rights...if FG doesnt promptly pay Dangote increases the prices of his product for him to generate his profit.. It quite tedious and unnecessarily complicated which is why ni investor wants to take that risk..but Dangote wanted to bear all this and rehabilitate a 210,000 bpd refinery in PH.. and Yar Adua just quenched it..

Problem with your arrangement is that production costs keep on rising...because refinery has to be upgraded, expanded, maintained, etc. Subsidy costs rise as a result. If they keep rising...then government would be spending more of the budget subsidisng any fuel...and taking more loans to make up the deficit.

Let's not forget that crude oil prices also rise too.

Today are we not in the mercy of Dangote to finish his refinery..and if he does if the price of PMS is not allowed to rise aboveN400 as it should normally be without subsidies...dont you think NNPC will now allocate all the trillions sent abroad in scarce FOREX to Dangote?

No, if subsidy goes, the trillions go back to the TREASURY...meaning government has more money to spend on things like educaiton, health, roads, etc etc...and spends less time taking loans...
we had 2 golden opportunities but Yar Adua had no sense...I am still wondering why he is referred to as the best..Obasanjo is the best .

No, Yaradua, Obasanjo , GEJ and Buhari are all the same...they kept subsides...and that limited growth in the industry..and wrecked our refineries...from running at a loss
Re: NNPC Quietly Approves Petrol Pump Price Hike To ₦179/Litre by Nelblac1974: 11:58am On Jul 19, 2022
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Re: NNPC Quietly Approves Petrol Pump Price Hike To ₦179/Litre by Mozegee: 12:02pm On Jul 19, 2022
People like you should shut up ,because u dont know what an average Nigerian is passing through. This is another hardships to the masses.
IamANigerianMan:
If that will make fuel scarcity over let it be
Re: NNPC Quietly Approves Petrol Pump Price Hike To ₦179/Litre by Kayyy: 12:10pm On Jul 19, 2022
Subsidywise20:


They did not, they continued with subsidy. That is what chased away private hands from rehab and operating refineries., or even doing new ones.

Subsidy means that fuel would be sold at a loss, and government pays the petroleum industry some money..the subsidy...to cover that loss. In practice, since costs of production rise all the time...the subsidy is inadequate.

That is why we haven't had any new refineries from NNPC...NNPC has always operated at a loss for a long time.

If GEJ-Yaradua had removed subsidy, yes, we would have been buying fuel at N150 as early as 2011, BUT....there would have been enough incentive for private people to run refineries.

Privatising refineries does not mean that Company W would come and build new refinery from you...they must surely make a profit while doing so. If they cannot...they won't come. Using an example from the GSM sector...all those facilites MTN, Airtel, and Glo built...ya think they would have done so if government did not allow them to set the price of their service..so that they could recoup their investment.

Nigerians need to give up this idea that fuel must be cheap...it is driving away investment.

I decided to quote this post cause from the first page till I got to this quote nobody was having any sensible discussion just curses, insults and emotional statements here and there, while you have analysed the problems , the solution you're offering would be worse on this same people complaining about the marginal increase at intervals, APC is not doing any thing different from what PDP did, and this was because PDP government in power knew the problem and realised that the solution was total removal of subsidy or having up to 5 refineries working at optimum capacity to refine our products and have fuel readily available, and even this is not going to totally solve the problem cause refinery operators opened for business purpose and not charity and would demand prices to make the money on their investment back. APC have seen what the PDP government were going through them and now see that like the previous government their hands are tied now, how do you decide between total removal of subsidy with the price jumping to 600-800 naira or also leaving subsidy and account for over 4 trillion of your budget spent on it.

For those that are calling Tinubu on this matter I don't understand how this is linked to him except you just want to use any current negative news as tool to bring down his campaign and project your own candidate, at the end of the day any one of them would be taking a solution that would still have dire consequences on the people, for how long I cannot say, Atiku's idea of selling all the refineries is not looking bad currently but even after selling it would take years to repair/revitalise these refineries and in the interim decision would have to be made on total subsidy removal or continuous payment same for Peter Obi, if we can think smartly there is a reason since 1999 we have been having this subsidy discussion with different people in government, even if one is dumb they can't all be dumb I suppose

Even when these refineries have been repaired , these private companies would want to make money back on their investment and will still be the one fixing our fuel prices and so don't expect the prices falling down drastically like the miracle people are proscribing here, with all the refineries in the US, gas prices have almost doubled in months with their oil companies posting massive profits (which is what all private companies want to achieve including the ones in Nigeria ) same for a number of other countries in the west, lastly currently we have ( at least we've been told ) total subsidy removal on diesel and within one year the diesel prices have doubled we have not seen the positive effect of that subsidy removal on diesel so what makes you think petrol would be different , Also if you think Dangote will spend over 13 billion on his refinery to crash our fuel prices for us I can sell you anything then, even with him being the largest cement manufacturer, he has not crashed the price of his cement so why would he do different with the refinery and petrol/ diesel prices Summary of the matter is that eventually our pump prices will reflect the going rate compared to majority of countries over the world, it will have to increase to a much extent. Anyways I don't know much maybe people can advise me better

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Re: NNPC Quietly Approves Petrol Pump Price Hike To ₦179/Litre by Kayyy: 12:29pm On Jul 19, 2022
Cognitivereason:


I understand all what You said..

What you failed to include is that Dangote still showed interest in rehabilitating the refineries starting with PH..but Yar Adua rejected it..

Have you asked yourself why Dangote still embarked upon building his own despite the facts that subsidies remain..

yess the business isnt profitable ordinarily..this is why FG spends trillions to those in the Business to make it profitable as they keep importing.. Dangote could have taken over the refineries and FG allocates the subsidies to him as his rights...if FG doesnt promptly pay Dangote increases the prices of his product for him to generate his profit.. It quite tedious and unnecessarily complicated which is why ni investor wants to take that risk..but Dangote wanted to bear all this and rehabilitate a 210,000 bpd refinery in PH.. and Yar Adua just quenched it..

Today are we not in the mercy of Dangote to finish his refinery..and if he does if the price of PMS is not allowed to rise aboveN400 as it should normally be without subsidies...dont you think NNPC will now allocate all the trillions sent abroad in scarce FOREX to Dangote?

we had 2 golden opportunities but Yar Adua had no sense...I am still wondering why he is referred to as the best..Obasanjo is the best .


But what is happening currently would still happen, if the government is paying Dangote the subsidy payment some of y'all would still term it corruption and a dirty deal between Dangote and FG to make money amongst themselves, if crude prices increases , Dangote would ask for increase in subsidy payment and y'all would still shout more , the shouting would be amplified , if the government refuses to pay Dangote, the pump price will increase , if the goverenment negotiates the subsidy out with Dangote and pay little increase the rest of the margin would still be transferred to the pump price increasing the pump price still, why is Mukesh Ambani raking billions upon billion of dollars and ranking higher on forbes, cos of deals such as this, he owns one of the biggest if not the biggest refinery in the world , no matter how you look at it, increase in inflation amounts to increase in dollar rate, so increase in international crude price which is in dollars with the increase in dollar rate would cause increase in the amount to refine and yield increase in pump price, simples.

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Re: NNPC Quietly Approves Petrol Pump Price Hike To ₦179/Litre by 451ibirinade: 1:11pm On Jul 19, 2022
Las las na everybody go buy this product at the same price irrespective of you being a hailer or wailer. APC is nothing but a disaster!Las las na everybody go buy this product at the same price irrespective of you being a hailer or wailer. APC is nothing but a disaster!...
Re: NNPC Quietly Approves Petrol Pump Price Hike To ₦179/Litre by EarnAp: 1:15pm On Jul 19, 2022
Re: NNPC Quietly Approves Petrol Pump Price Hike To ₦179/Litre by IamANigerianMan: 1:40pm On Jul 19, 2022
akbonus:

GUY TRY USE YOUR SENSE SMALL,THIS WILL MAKE MARKETERS,PPMC,PPRC AND OTHER STAKE HOLDERS MAKE MORE MONEY AND MORE SUFFERING FOR NIGERIANS.PETROLEUM MARKETING PRICING IN NIGERIA IS THE BIGGEST SCAM IN NIGERIA,NNPC IS NIGERIA'S HEAQURTER OF CORRUPTION.MUCH OF THE STOLEN MONEY FROM NIGERIA'S FEDERATION ACCOUNT COMES OUT FROM NNPC.ONE OF THE REASON THEY ARE TRYING TO STOP OBI IS FOR HIM AND HIS DATA SPECIALIST VP NOT TO COME AND EXPOSE THEIR FRAUD IN NNPC,IF THEY DO ALL FORMER MANAGERS IN NNPC WILL GO TO KUJE,KIRI KIRI.THE QUANTITY IMPORTED,CONSUME AND THE AMOUNT PAID FOR SUBSIDY AND DUMERAGE AT THE PORT ARE AL SCAM.USELESS OLD THIEVES,WE ARE FLUSHING ALL OF THEM OUT COME NEXT YEAR.OUR EYES DON CLEAR,TELL THEM SAY OUR EYES DON OPEN OO,IN THE VOICE OF THAT MUSICIAN I DON'T KNOW HIS NAME THOUGH.
Mr.Sense you did not say anything here
Re: NNPC Quietly Approves Petrol Pump Price Hike To ₦179/Litre by alphaNomega: 1:49pm On Jul 19, 2022
bigfish3k:

I don't have power to argue with any APC person because they talk with both sides of their mouth

Below is how you people reason :

When petrol price goes up internationally, the APC government will increase our local prices and triple subsidy payments, citing international price increment as an excuse

When petrol price also comes down internationally, the APC government will still increase local prices and triple subsidy payments, while citing international low prices.

Mtchew. You people are the ones not reasoning well and frustrating Nigerians.

God Forbid BAT thing

You have the energy to reply them
Re: NNPC Quietly Approves Petrol Pump Price Hike To ₦179/Litre by tsdarkside(m): 2:19pm On Jul 19, 2022
kiki....wailers no well atall....

Re: NNPC Quietly Approves Petrol Pump Price Hike To ₦179/Litre by connkg(m): 3:57pm On Jul 19, 2022
Please NLC and Labour Party should wade into this. No point waiting for yet another administration before this is decided.
(APC claimed that there was "nothing like subsidy", with a now-late Minister saying it should be sold at N40. The APC is still not handling the problem, as they pushed out a PIA and have postponed the evil day)
Something else MUST be subsidised or wages increased without significant inflation, for this to go mildly away.
We have to discuss this now. A silent National Assembly and State Houses of Assembly is one thing. A silent Labour is another.
Re: NNPC Quietly Approves Petrol Pump Price Hike To ₦179/Litre by Wwwq: 4:26pm On Jul 19, 2022
Just make it available
Re: NNPC Quietly Approves Petrol Pump Price Hike To ₦179/Litre by swissgoldenpro2: 4:38pm On Jul 19, 2022
Tough times lies ahead
Re: NNPC Quietly Approves Petrol Pump Price Hike To ₦179/Litre by Saintinoo(m): 5:41pm On Jul 19, 2022
Subsidywise20:


Again, subsidy is what government pays to the petroleum sector to compensate them for selling fuel below its production and landing cost.

We cannot afford to subsidise petrol...even with the stealing of money goung on....it costs far too much.

(I am not excusing corruption mind you)

Also, US gives incentives to some...the minority...not EVERYONE...as in Nigeria

You see that thing subsidy? it is bad, so bad that it destroys an economy. But what choice does the government have, are our refineries working? is getting our refineries work a rocket science?

The trillions going into fuel subsidy can be used to transform the country, but are our crop of leaders willing to do that?

Have some functional refineries and we say goodbye to subsidy and live better.

Petrol is sold for 180 now, transport of short distance is now 150 as of 80 naira last year, income is not increasing, this is what we are talking about.
Re: NNPC Quietly Approves Petrol Pump Price Hike To ₦179/Litre by olamilarks(m): 6:19pm On Jul 19, 2022
Nigerians are masters in adapting!

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